BANANACUE
REPUBLIC

Oct 07, 2005

 
 
 attitudes by H. A. de Veyra

 




CONTENTS


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Google polyamory 


D said I should google the word. Polyamory. Many loves.

We were talking about relationships, and the role love has in them. I raised these questions: If you love someone, and express your undying love to your partner, how can you have sex with another? If you love someone and express your undying love, why do you still seek for others? How can some people choose economic/material/comfort reasons over love? How come love cannot be enough? What is love? What is true love? Why do we seek it fervently, then discount its importance in our lives. And what place is left for love in today’s relationships?

Tara (an Australian guru) used to tell me that love is an either/or option. Either you love someone, or you don’t. No buts about it, and no ifs. And when you do love someone, you’d better be ready to dive deep into the ocean, or jump off a cliff for love. Take risks. Otherwise, you’re not ready. Ready for what? I assumed she meant that all-consuming love that awakens our passion for life, and ignites our senses into countless conflicting emotions. The only thing worth seeking for in this life.  Love is indescribable, therefore, it can only be felt. When I asked Tara how she could love another while loving someone else, and why it was easy for her to let go of someone she loves deeply, she said, “hm... cos I’m not attached in that way.” Hmm... I guess I’ve still a long way to go.

D said I should google the word “polyamory”. Many loves.

We were discussing the pros and cons of online dating, or finding your partner through the internet. I said it just widens your choices, from meeting only the people in your immediate circle to meeting people all over the world who are seeking as you are, and whom you have no chance of ever meeting if not for the internet. The fact is, it’s almost impossible to meet your potential mate if you don’t make an effort. Hence, go online. And meet other seekers. God and fate after all, have computerized. J said, but doesn’t that make mail-to-order brides and prostitution more accessible to everyone who knows how to use a keyboard and a mouse? In our culture’s case, the middleman is now just a software that makes it easier for seekers (read: perverts) to find their match (read: dollar-seeking Filipinas). This is true in a sense, there is an ever growing presence of white foreigners in our country, with Filipinas hanging on to them like their lives depended on that foreigner’s arms. I am not being a racist, but I do raise my eyebrow when the foreigner in question is a quivering old man who can barely walk, or a big-bellied arrogant and loudmouthed white, with two 17-18 year old Filipinas clinging on both sides of him. I do feel sad for our race when these foreigners are literally ‘buying’ these Filipinas out of their poverty, and offering them a better life (3 meals a day at least) in exchange for becoming yayas in their old age, and well, a sex slave as bonus. A Canadian anthropologist I know was disgusted when he saw these foreigners with clinging young Filipinas, he said, they are the dregs of our society and here they are exploiting your women. J’s German volunteer friend said, they are the ones who can’t attract the women in their own countries, so they come here. All a matter of opinion I guess, and choices. Can you blame people if they’ve the taste for young and willing and cheap Asian bodies? Can you blame an uneducated and hungry Filipina if she sees this foreigner as her and her family’s savior?

I’ve heard of stories about how Filipinas are preferred by whites because of their devotion to their husbands, their family values, their loyalty, etc... but I also know of the Filipinas’ reputation for using these foreigners as their ticket to an American or European citizenship, or just playing (sometimes in groups) with a foreigner’s feelings to get more dollars. My friend J says it’s all probably economic. When you think of it, this is a better deal than living in poverty, or alone. Both parties get what they both intend to get from that relationship. Ask them where they met: Online.

We exchanged stories. I said I know a 26 year old friend who married a 58 year old American and when they came here for a vacation, her husband found another 22 year old Filipina (in the same town) whom he also met online. J talked about another Filipina who married an American for love and when they were in the States, her husband continued seeking other women on the internet. She waited for two years until she got her green card before divorcing him. She became street-smart but lost her sweetness. There’s also this teacher whose online friend came to visit but ended up with another teacher. In fairness to the foreigner, no promises were made. It was all done western-style dating. Choose from many options, until you find the one you want to end up with. But when a Filipina has a different impression of ‘dating’ where “I’m interested in visiting you” means “I want to marry you”, how did she feel about it when she found out he was dating another Filipina aside from her? Fortunately she was stoic about it, she was also emailing other foreigners aside from him. Then there’s the German guy who asked his friend’s Filipina to look for a Filipina for him to marry so he can buy and own land here when he comes to visit. J said, but where is the love in that? What is the underlying motive for seeking? Economics? Love? Loneliness? And what does that do to our reputation? I said that’s true. We can’t blame the Americans for example, for thinking that Filipinas just want their dollars. Or citizenship. Because that’s really happening.

J related a story to us where some tourist divers’ impression of Filipinas were prostitute-looking young girls who could barely speak English, clinging like vines to the arms of big-bellied Americans. Being flown in directly to a tiny diving island from the international airport, their only exposure to the Filipinas were the ones they saw in that resort. When J started talking intelligently (in English) about the efforts being done for mangrove preservation, a German diver asked which country she came from and she said I’m from here, I’m a local (wondering why he looked so puzzled). I wonder which country he had in mind...

But I’m not saying love does not exist among these couples, or love cannot exist, whatever their age or economic differences are. A good friend of mine for example, is extra devoted to her husband and both of them are in love with each other. I can say that what brought them together was not economics, but love. They’re the rare few. The guy was willing to dive deep into the ocean with her, and jump off a cliff to be with her, and so was she. But they’re surfers, what can I say, surfers are crazy.

But wait, truth is, I don’t really think much about reputations, what other people or nations think about us, what other people do with their lives. (Except of course, when ‘bad reputation’ becomes asking to be exploited and abused which is what our women are asking, and getting.) For me, I try to respect the choices a person makes. I’m not an omniscient being who can see which actions are good or bad in the long run, and therefore judge a choice made by that person or by the collective whole. What saddens me though is when love is cheapened. When love loses its sacredness, and becomes just a word of convenience. But I guess I cant complain, knowing that whatever level of love one feels for another, can evolve and will eventually evolve, however slow it may take. I don’t know, I’m confused already hahaha.

D sighed and said I should google the word “polyamory”. Many loves.

I asked D and J what they thought love was. D laughed and said, “I’ve met my true love, my soul mate, but is he my boyfriend? Only when we’re together. I’ll probably marry someone else if it’s more convenient economically as long as I like the guy and have the same interests. Love doesn’t have to be present, after all, I’ve met my true love already. And he’s there for me.” Hmm... J and I looked at each other. I said, maybe I’m naïve and old-fashioned for thinking love is a monogamous thing. J said, “I don’t care if I’m called old-fashioned. I can only love one man at a time.” D exclaimed, “but love consumes and is too huge to give to one person alone!!” I know this theoretically, and even agree to it. But was I able to practice it when I tried? Honestly? I couldn’t, guilt consumed me just as love did. Because of that guilt, the love that I felt became tainted. I was torn between hurting someone by confessing on one hand, and asking for forgiveness and being forgiven on the other hand. Tara used to tease me, “you Catholic prude! Guilt is a choice!” I guess I just have different values, a different take on love, different principles...

Can love have many levels? Could it be that a person feels a different kind of love from the one his/her partner feels, therefore their treatment of the relationship differs? Paulo Coelho, the author of The Pilgrimage described 3 levels of love: eros, philos and agape. Eros is where it all starts, attraction, sex, chemistry... which when allowed to evolve can become philos, friendship love, which married couples who stay together for long, develop. Agape is the most evolved kind of love, and would need another article to describe (and for me, maybe another lifetime to learn). So if one feels eros, and the other feels the more evolved philos, is there a possibility of a lasting relationship? Does the other one have to wait until the other one catches up?

Tara said, “*Bs Agnes! you’re trying to intellectualize love again! You either love a person or you don’t! That’s all there is to it!”

D said, google polyamory already! 

 

COMMENTS:
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Take the "G" out. Oogle at it...Everybody seems loving somebody, twobody, threebody..but as my lover polyamorous says: "It's just that it's in different levels..." Since this universe is getting small thru technology and communication, we are faced with variety...which makes Love many-faceted... dulz  10/07/05

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I like your article. The part about the fat, old, white men and the young Fillipinas brought so much mixed emotion. Anger, grief, disgust, understanding, comprehension.....all wrapped tightly in a thick blanket of sorrow. May I share this with others? - Nancy, NC (USA)  10/17/05

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*Smiles... you misquoted me a number of times *slap... lol and also gave me a *title* I cringe at... so another *slap - Tara xxx  10/18/05

 


 


"If you love someone and express your undying love, why do you still seek others?  How can some people choose economic/ material/ comfort reasons over love?  How come love cannot be enough? What is love?  What is true love?"