Visitor: laura
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Location: Michigan
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Contact: sunshine0@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 21:19:52 (EDT)
Comments: 6. & 7.) I am glad that webtv.users is moderated, even though the mods arent' able to tell us much.
I am also glad that there are unmoderated groups. I especially enjoy the newly created w.recovery group!
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Visitor: Mark Richardson
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Location: Ft Myers, Fl
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Contact: mark555@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 20:19:55 (EDT)
| Comments: I enjoy myself in the unmoderated groups. We have a few problems sometimes, but that is bound to happen when you have so many people from different backgrounds coming together.
Whether a group is moderated or not should depend on the person who requested that the group be formed.
I hope that WebTv will inform all users about the groups in the near future. The people that post in the usenet groups have a low opinion of webtvers. Besides, using the w groups is like being in an exclusive club that makes us different than all other people on the net.
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Visitor: Tommy
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Location: Pascagoula Mississippi
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Contact: n2play@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:54:46 (EDT)
| Comments: I quit posting in the webtv.users group because they constantly passed over posts for good tips in favor of trivial and blind WebTV supporting posts. I had the unmoderated equivelent set up in news:w.n2play, and I think these groups should only be moderated if the person that suggests them wants it that way. The w.n2play group has too many posts for one person to moderate, and that would also be counter to the spirit it was set up in. I think that additional groups should be created in the way they are, by voting at w.config.
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Visitor: Douglas Skranak
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Location: Alberta, Texas, Montana, Wash St.
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Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:31:06 (EDT)
| Comments: Q #5: I visit and am aware of both users and w.*
newsgroups. I rarely post to either.
Q #6: the moderators there seem to try as well as they can to perform their job, we already lost km.
The group seems to fall off-topic too much.
It's a discussion about webtv, not html, chat
homepages, webpages, et cetera. I wish people
would ask themselves before they post, Does this really pertain to webtv?
Q #7: I would probably post more to the w.* hierarchy
if I didn't get so frustrated with the absolute
abuse of html in the posts. Moderation is a full-time job in an active newsgroup. I don't
believe it's possible to moderate active groups, without being paid. Who will pay?
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Visitor: Allan Gorochow
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Location: Catonsville, MD
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Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:29:48 (EDT)
| Comments: I love all the groups you mentioned and spend a large part of my Internet time with these groups.
Thanks, D. Mack
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Visitor: n/a
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Contact: Psycho-Gremlin@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:21:56 (EDT)
| Comments: Q.6 Webtv newsgroup does not allow users with sig.
blocks to post. Webtv allows us to use html but stops
us from posting.
Q.7 I think more info should be added to know what the
group is about so users have an idea before entering.
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Visitor: Gregory Heritage
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Location: Millville N.J.
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Contact: Huggybare@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:19:15 (EDT)
| Comments: I know of all the news groups and read most and post to some.
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Visitor: Yankeefan1
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Location: Philadelphia
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Date: Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 18:07:36 (EDT)
| Comments: 6. I feel that webtv.users has it's place and does try to do a good job answering people's questions, but hey also put many unneeded or unwanted things on there, such as griping about upgrades and stuff like that.
7. I think the w. groups provide a safe atmosphere for those who have been burned by computer users in the regular newsgroups. About 99.9% of the people there are friendly and helpful. They are greatly under used, though, even with the new people coming in. I believe that the groups should not be stuck up in the red tape of WebTV–the only groups that should be moderated are those moderated by regular WebTV users, such as news:w.mod.internet.
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Visitor: Joan
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Location: New York
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Date: Sun, Sep 07, 1997 at 22:56:37 (EDT)
| Comments: Some of us post in the w groups but also post or lurk
in users. There should be one more question to indicate that.
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Visitor: Betty B
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Location: Illinois
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Contact: bjblb@webtv.net
Date: Sun, Sep 07, 1997 at 21:45:27 (EDT)
| Comments: 6. I find the moderated webtv.users to be very useful, almost a necessity for beginners It may be a little overmoderated at times though.
7. I spend the majority of my on-line time in the w.newsgroups and believe most of them must remain unmoderated. What we must do is publicize the existence of these groups to ALL webtv users.
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Visitor: Jane Hammond
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Location: Pacific Grove, CA
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Contact: jrh@webtv.net
Date: Sun, Sep 07, 1997 at 20:53:42 (EDT)
| Comments: I have been aware of w.users since it began and used to post there frequently.....not so much any more. I have posted in n2play, now just read there. I like the new moderated w.mod.internet because it's safe from flames and negativity. Rudiger is doing a great job. I think a few more moderated groups would be a good idea, though I understand the need for unmoderated groups also. (I appreciate your surveys, Marion Rose.)
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Visitor: Joe
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Location: CA
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Date: Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 23:39:38 (EDT)
| Comments: I post in both ng daily under a different name than I
am using here.
Q6. Users should be split into two groups-Software and
Hardware problems. A good FAQ should be prepared and
the moderators should only post questions/problems that
are not answered there.Additionally a Bug Board listing
known problems,recently corrected problems, and target
dates for resolution should be added.
Q7. Moderators should not be chosen solely because they
propose a group.Vanity group guru's invite flame wars
and boycotts. Dedication, ability to communicate,
availability, openmindedness, diplomatic
skills,knowlege of subject matter are some of the
criteria.
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Visitor: Ray Stickney
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Location: Gilford,NH
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Contact: CommFreq@webtv.net
Date: Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 20:58:52 (EDT)
| Comments: The w groups are OK,but if they turn into flame wars like a lot of other groups,they should be moderated,or the flamers banned.
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Visitor: Justine M
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Location: San Jose, California
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Contact: JustineM@webtv.net
Date: Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 20:51:12 (EDT)
| Comments: I am aware of and post to both newsgroups. No, the w groups should not be moderated. I like the w groups because it is fast and is almost like chat. Lots of great people.
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Visitor: JIM Stark
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Location: NEVERMIND
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Date: Fri, Sep 05, 1997 at 18:19:43 (EDT)
| Comments: 6. The moderated webtv group is to bloddy slow
7. the unmoderated groups are great and dont need some moderator.
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Visitor: judy
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Location: santa rosa, ca
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Contact: pintail@webtv.net
Date: Thurs, Sep 04, 1997 at 21:32:08 (EDT)
| Comments: unmoderated groups are much more pleasant, so long as
everyone sticks to the topic. But there are far too
many people out there that just go from group to group
and post whatever trash that's on their minds and
because some participants don't have the sense to
ignore them, it escalates to the point that you don't
go back there. That's the only reason for a moderator,
(I hope) is to keep the malarky to a minimum. I do not
like having my posts trashed just because they aren't
interesting enough or are maybe redundant. If it has
to do with the topic then it should be posted!
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Visitor: seesaw
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Date: Wed, Sep 03, 1997 at 15:58:56 (EDT)
| Comments: Unmoderated groups are fine, but the moderate group
sucks. They take to long to post, and sometimes they
don't post your statements at all.
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Visitor: Dave Legnosky
Reference: GeoCities
Location: Santa Clara, Ca.
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Contact: dave-legs@webtv.net
Date: Tuesday, Sep 02, 1997 at 23:47:35 (EDT)
| Comments: No comment at this time.....
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Visitor: Harvillo
Reference: Just Surfed In!
Location: So Cal.
WebSite: Harvillo's Finest WebTV Homepage
Web Info: WebTV,HTML,Cool Links
Contact: HArvillo@WebTV.net
Date: Tuesday, Sep 02, 1997 at 22:18:37 (EDT)
| Comments: Nice Page!
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Visitor: Robin Of Lox
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Location: AZ
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Contact: robinoflox@webtv.net
Date: Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 10:04:32 (EDT)
| Comments: 1.I visit and post in User's and w groups.
2.Was told about w. via e-mail.
3.I enjoy both mod & not mod groups
4. Am about to submit proposal for moderating a group.
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Visitor: Donna
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Date: Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 00:39:09 (EDT)
| Comments: I visit both the webtv users (moderated) and the w
newgroups. I enjoy the new w newsgroup mod.internet
which is moderated but visit several of the groups.
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Visitor: Donna
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Date: Mon, Sep 01, 1997 at 00:37:02 (EDT)
| Comments: I visit both the webtv users (moderated) and the w
newgroups. I enjoy the new w newsgroup mod.internet
which is moderated but visit several of the groups.
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Visitor: mike
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Date: Sun, Aug 31, 1997 at 21:01:24 (EDT)
| Comments: No comment at this time.....
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Visitor: Roy Deaver
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Location: Westland , Michigan
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Contact: beerbelly@webtv.net
Date: Sun, Aug 31, 1997 at 18:11:26 (EDT)
| Comments: I feel there is more information given on the moderated news group and it is much more controled
As with C.B RADIOS as they became more popular they got out of control and we must have some type of controls or web tv news groups will become a useless form of communation
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Visitor: Richard Hultman
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Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Contact: oldfool1@webtv.net
Date: Sun, Aug 31, 1997 at 03:58:31 (EDT)
| Comments: I browse the users group and the w groups on a
daily basis. I post to the w groups on a daily
basis. I post to the users group occasionally.
I wish the users group would list posts in a little
more organized fashion. Posts to a thread appear to
be scattered all over the place.
w is undisciplined in a lot of respects. Still
interesting.
Since they don't allow HTML and Javascript sigs in
the Users group, w is the best place to
go to look at some interesting Sigs.
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Visitor: pat morell
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Location: new york
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Date: Sat, Aug 30, 1997 at 23:50:10 (EDT)
| Comments: I check in with the WebTV user's group at least once a week;I almost always find some useful info there.
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Visitor: Dan
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Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Date: Sat, Aug 30, 1997 at 23:14:01 (EDT)
| Comments: No comment at this time.....
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Visitor: A.H.
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Location: HI
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Date: Sat, Aug 30, 1997 at 18:57:20 (EDT)
| Comments: I found the w groups 2 or 3 weeks ago,even though we've
been online since May. I've only started to post a couple of days ago. I don't mind if the groups are moderated,as long as it's done fairly,and without prejudice. It seems that some of these groups should be called news:w.flame. I would like WebTV to list these groups along side the users group,yo keep them from languishing away.That's it!
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Visitor: Art
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Location: Southern Calif.
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Contact: BigArtie@webtv.net
Date: Sat, Aug 30, 1997 at 18:31:11 (EDT)
| Comments: The users ng is very informative. I've learned lots of things about webtv from that group. The other groups, however, seem to be an outlet for a lot of immature people. There's lots of flaming and much of the posting is nonsense. I rarely go to the w. groups now but continue to read and post to the moderated users group. You have a great web site. One of these days I'm going to find time to learn html and javascript and construct a site, too.
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Visitor: F Moser
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Location: http://www.oocities.org/Heartland/Meadows/8346/
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Contact: gospelsing777@webtv.net
Date: Sat, Aug 30, 1997 at 07:08:32 (EDT)
| Comments: I visit both w:newsgroups and the webtv moderated newsgroups. Unfortunately, with surfwatch on I cannot visit W:newsgroups. I have also posted to the w:newsgroups. I only found the w:newsgroups by an e-mail invitation (sig). Webtv's fear is unfounded. These groups are alive and thrive thanks to free speech. I don't always agree, but their right to disagree is constitutional.
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Visitor: Lyndacaryle
Reference: NewsGroups
Location: Long Beach, NY
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Contact: Camlyn@webtv.net
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 1997 at 14:40:24 (EDT)
| Comments: No comment at this time.....
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Visitor: John Bowman
Reference: Just Surfed In!
Location: Tallahassee, FL
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Contact: jbowman@webtv.net
Date: Tuesday, Aug 26, 1997 at 22:31:03 (EDT)
| Comments: Thanks for the HTML layout. Your approach is more instructive that the majority of the approaches out there. Most spend half a page explaining what the tag is going to do instead of simply showing the actual language and results. Simple approach for simple people with great results. Surveys are interesting too.
The only drawback is the long period of weeks it takes to learn. Not really a problem for me, but I can see where it would be for some. Still I like your approach best overall.
Interesting links too. THANKS - jb
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Visitor: sandsurfer
Reference: Just Surfed In!
Location: fl
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Web Info: the globe
Contact: sandsurfer@webtv.net
Date: Tuesday, Aug 26, 1997 at 10:17:09 (EDT)
| Comments: i have same disconnect problem
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Visitor: EDWARD JAMES TUCKER JR
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Location: WORCESTER, MASS.
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Contact: EFJTUCKER@WEBTV.NET
Date: Mon, Aug 25, 1997 at 15:36:54 (EDT)
| Comments: YOU HAVE DONE EXCELLENT WORK SO MUCH THAT I COULD NOT
FIND ANY ADDITIONAL WORDS TO DESCRIBE ABOUT YOUR EFFORT
SO GO ON WITH YOU BEST ABILITY WITHOUT STOPPING YOUR
NEW IDEAS
REGARDS E.J.T.J.
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Visitor: Javad
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Location: VA
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Contact: javad@webtv.net
Date: Fri, Aug 22, 1997 at 16:22:54 (EDT)
| Comments: No comment at this time.....
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Visitor: Andrea Larson Ripley
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Location: Charlotte, NC
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Contact: aripley@webtv.net
Date: Wed, Aug 20, 1997 at 23:23:50 (EDT)
| Comments: I choose to ignore those comments about stealing stuff. In essence, the whole cyberspace thing is theft...so what...we are completely harmless. Why would you publish anything to the public domain. That is the risk you take...you fly your flag to the public...you naturally have given a free opportunity to all types of individuals...tough luck in cyber-city!
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Visitor: Grav
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Location: Connecticut
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Contact: GravitySucks@webtv.net
Date: Wed, Aug 20, 1997 at 20:58:28 (EDT)
| Comments: Yes, I would love it if webtv would give us space for
our homepages. I wouldn't even have a problem if they
charged us a SMALL amount for them (under $5 a month.)
BUT (!!!), if they charged they would have to have
AWESOME in-house graphics and midis to link to and
hopefully a service where you can request that someone
from webtv download a particular file from the web or
usenet and transfer it to your site.
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Visitor: Grav
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Location: Connecticut
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Contact: GravitySucks@webtv.net
Date: Wed, Aug 20, 1997 at 20:57:15 (EDT)
| Comments: Yes, I would love it if webtv would give us space for our homepages. I wouldn't even have a problem if they charges us a SMALL amount for them (under $5 a month.) BUT (!!!), if they charged they would have to have AWESOME in-house graphics and midis to link to and hopefully a service where you can request that someone from webtv download a particular file from the web or usenet and transfer it to your site.
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Visitor: Posiedon1
Reference: Just Surfed In!
Location: Minnesota
WebSite: The WebTV Newsgroup Site
Web Info: It directs webtv users to tons webtv newsgroups.
Contact: posiedon1@webtv.net
Date: Sun, Aug 17, 1997 at 16:09:42 (EDT)
| Comments: I am just signing this guestbook to shamelessly promote my homepage. Please visit it. If you add a link to it I will return the favor by adding your link to mine.
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Visitor: Ed McClelland
Reference: Word of Mouth
Location: New York
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Contact: EARTHONE@webtv.net
Date: Wed, Aug 13, 1997 at 21:33:50 (EDT)
| Comments: Hi: Just found your site by accident. Thanks for being there/here. I've had my SONY unit about 3 weeks and have not watched standard TV in about the same time. Would like very much to construct my very custom made site. Is their A Book for WebTV wonks? When I get some more time I will put some more time into your site. Well Done!! Many Thanks, Ed
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