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  • **ACTION ALERT**

    March 31st, 1997 --
    United States Media Labels Paganism a Cult "Like Heaven's Gate"

    In the past few days, Good Morning America, CNN, and The Today Show
    have all done stories on the Heaven's Gate suicides, and all
    linked this group to "pagans" and "techno-pagans."

    The worst offender was Good Morning America. Their Heaven's Gate
    episode included a segment on cults, in which they searched the web
    to show how easy it was to find cults online. They searched for
    "Satanism" (bringing up the Temple of Set web site) and then "paganism,"
    bringing up a Pagan Network site. The correspondent commented that
    there are "LOTS of pagan web sites," and the anchor asked, "How do we
    protect our children?"

    CNN warned its readers against "techno-pagans," and the Today show
    discussed talking to kids about cults, using witchcraft as an example.
    These reports are symptomatic of the way many news sources are
    portraying Pagans. They clearly regard Paganism as a separate
    religious group, rather than as the popular generic "any non-Christian
    group," but continue to vilify us without telling their viewers
    who Pagans really are and what we believe.

    We are calling for a letter-writing drive fom all pagans and anyone
    concerned with religious freedom. Contact MSNBC, (producers of the
    Today show), ABC, (producers of Good Morning America), and CNN at
    the addresses below to correct them. Request an on-air apology.
    Write to your own
    local papers and call
    your local news stations to tell them you feel about the Pagan
    community being labeled as a dangerous cult and something from
    which we need to protect our children.

    Update, April 8th

    U.S News and World Report ran an article on April 7th titled Witches, magic, ordinary folks: Why entering a cult is comforting and feels a lot like joining a religion. Some say it defames pagans... some say it's fine. Decide for yourself!

    Another U.S. News story in the same issue titled, The eternal quest for a new age: the thin line between faith and zealotry, religion and cults, remarks, "Subtract the spaceship and the mass suicide, and you have a yearning and a search familiar to millions of Americans--one that has found a home in the New Age movement, a collection of religious practices, therapy techniques, witchcraft, science fiction, and alternative medicine." The article continues in the same vein.

    Update, April 10th

    Witches' Voice says:

    "Disappointment of the week goes to Jane Pauley of "Dateline NBC" for her sloppy comment on Friday night [April 4th] pegging Witchcraft as a cult. Fritz was especially stunned by this because he worships Jane AND they share the same birthday, both were born on the Celtic Feast of the Dead (Halloween). As a Samhain Scorpio, Jane you should have KNOWN better."

    Update, April 14th

    This issue is not over, despite the slow halt of media attention to this issue. See what others have written, and the responses they received.


    Resources

  • Pagan FAQ
  • Wiccan FAQ
  • Satanism FAQ
  • The Military Chaplain's Handbook entry on Witchcraft
  • Cult Danger Evaluation Frame
  • The Heaven's Gate site (mirror site, the original has been taken down)
  • CNN Interactive web site
    Wired's often-quoted article on technopagans
  • U.S. News and World Report
    Email U. S. News note: not as effective as snail mail
  • Dateline NBC
  • Email Dateline note: not as effective as snail mail
  • The Today Show online
    "APPLEGATE: I've kind of seen this from the other end. I had a friend who was in what would probably be considered a New Age cult. And, yeah, it was pretty weird. They wore weird clothes. They said weird chants."
    Email the Today show note: not as effective as snail mail
  • Good Morning America background and staff
    Email Good Morning America note: not as effective as snail mail
    Email Good Morning America's producer, John Palacio
  • 1-212-456-1000 ABC's phone number, to comment on Good Morning America - ask for the Comment Line and talk fast because they cut you off quickly. Also try your local ABC station.
  • ABC's web site has a very thorough email forum which seems to rank somewhat above regular email because they ask you to "please include your telephone number if you wish to be contacted at home."
  • The wchstv.com site says, "you can always send mail to the star in care of the production company that produces the show that the star appears in. Virtually all the production companies maintain a staff that reads and answers mail for the program and the stars. Some personalities expect that copies of all mail is sent to them, others will have copies of mail sent to their own staff and still others will only read mail that someone has deemed of special interest to the star."
  • Good Morning America's snail-mail address:

    Marc Burstein, Executive Producer
    Good Morning America
    147 Columbus Avenue, 6th Floor
    New York, NY 10023

    The ABC website says:

    How can I obtain a transcript of an ABC News Program? 
           Transcripts of our news magazine programs (Nightline,
           Primetime Live, This Week, Turning Point and 20/20),
           World News Tonight broadcasts, Good Morning America
           and ABC News Specials are available through The
           Federal Document Clearing House, at the following
           address:
    
                  FDCH
                  PO Box 2249
                  Livonia, MI 48151
                  (800) 913-3434 
    
    How can I obtain a videocassette of an ABC News Program? 
           Selected segments of our newsmagazine programs are
           available through ABC News Video. You can contact
           their offices at the following address:
    
                  ABC News Video
                  PO Box 2249
                  Livonia, MI 48151
                  (800) 913-3434

    Points to Make

  • Heaven's Gate took a great deal from Christianity, and nothing from pagan religions. For example, in the list of keywords which would direct a search engine to their page were:Heaven's Gate keywords show their Biblical/Christian basis; Heaven's Gate, second coming, angels, end times, Antichrist, Apocalypse, Armageddon, God, God's Children, God's Chosen, God's Heaven, God's Laws, God's Son, Jesus, Jesus' Return, Jesus' Teaching, Kingdom of God, Kingdom of Heaven....

  • Their web site's logo states: "RED ALERT- HALE-BOPP Brings Closure to: HEAVEN'S GATE, As was promised- the keys to Heaven's Gate are here again in Ti and Do (the UFO Two) as they were in Jesus and His Father 2000 yrs.ago."

  • Paganism is an umbrella term covering an extremely diverse list of religions, none of which are "dangerous cults." Pagan groups are not messianic, do not teach that they are the only way to divinity, do not coerce, indoctrinate, or brainwash their members, and neither recruit nor proselytize. Pagan groups do not require their members to give up anything, whether it be their family and friends, their prior lifestyle, or their eating habits. Paganism does not require spouses to convert, or control the money and posessions of its members.

    Margot Adler wrote: "..Neo-Pagan groups rarely proselytize and certain of them are quite selective. There are few converts. In most cases, word of mouth, a discussion between friends, a lecture, a book, or an article provides the entry point. But these events merely confirm some original, private experience, so that the most common feeling of those who have named themselves Pagans is something like "I finally found a group that has the same religious perceptions I always had." A common phrase you hear is "I've come home," or, as one woman told me excitedly after a lecture, "I always knew I had a religion, I just never knew it had a name."
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    CyberPatrol Bans Some Pagan Sites

    From soc.religion.paganism:
    
     Earlier today, I read an article someone posted about the browser control software called CyberPatrol.
    
     For those of you who don't know what it is, it's a parental/workplace
     control program that prevents certain sites from being accessed based on
     a review of their contents by a group of advisors including a Christian
     minister. The categories which result in sites being banned include
     alcohol/tobacco, drugs and drug culture, militant/terrorist information,
     sex education, pornography, nudity, violence... and the following two,
     which are quoted directly from the CyberPatrol homepage:
    
     The following pagan sites were banned on the basis of "Satanic/Cult" content by CyberPatrol's advisory group, in blatant violation of their
     own anti-intolerance stance:
       Jaz's Pagan Page
        http://www.cris.com/~boofull/pagan/
       What is Wicca?
        http://www.crc.ricoh.com/~rowanf/COG/iabout.html
      (Not sure of the titles - a list of those killed in the Burning Times)
        http://www.primenet.com/~ioseph/burnwitc.htm
       Another 'Wicca FAQ' type page
        http://www.cris.com/~goddess/wicca.html
    
    And these are just the ones I could think to check right off the top of
    my head.
    
    So, pagan parents, if you're looking to limit your kids' web browsing
    activities, DO NOT USE THIS PROGRAM! And please, encourage your friends,
    family, and associates to boycott this Christian software as well.
    
    Also, concerned Internet citizens may like to drop a line to
    susang@microsys.com, a person listed as an address for comments about
    CyberPatrol and its censorship methods. And those of you who own pagan
    websites may want to check the CyberNOT list of banned sites via the
    search engine at http://www.microsys.com/cybernot/default.htm
    
    I did, and I AM banned. A request for review has been sent to them.
    E-mail of the URL to you is on its way.
    
    If your site, or a pagan/non-Christian site that you know of, is banned
    by this software, please email me the URL at this address. I plan to
    collect a list of sites for reference purposes, which will be made
    available from my own website.
    
    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:21:46 -0500
    From: Lowell & Nancy McFarland
    To: cybernot@microsys.com
    Cc: mcfarlan@mail1.nai.net, aes@cyberia.com, cdf@colossus.net
    Subject: Pagan Bashing Overlooked by CyberPatrol

    It is apparent that CyberPatrol may be Pagan Bashing, or may be aiding and abbetting Internet Pagan Bashing, by failing to note obvious examples of religious intolerance against Pagans by sites, including CNN [see attachment where, in reference to the San Diego Christian group that committed mass suicide, CNN refered to warnings against "Techno-Pagans." http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9703/27/techno.pagans/index.html ] and others.
    Clearly these suicidals were Techno-Christians and in no manner Pagans - technos or otherwise.
    There are indications that CyberPatrol has lumped various Pagan websites into CULT websites where clearly they don't fit CyberPatrol's definition of a CULT.
    Pagans, by most accounts, are the fastest growing religious group in the US.
    This may account for the increased Pagan Bashing and attacks against Pagans by mainstream religious groups on the Internet and CyberPatrol's possible winking at Internet Pagan Bashing.
    Most any site mentioning Halloween (Pagan Samhain) will contain standard Pagan Bashing and few of these balatantly religiously intolerant sites get blocked by CyberPatrol.
    Does CyberPatrol exist to bash Pagans?
    Does CyberPatrol not care if minority religions get routinely abused on the internet?
    Is CyberPatrol only for narrow minded or intolerant Christian parents? Does CyberPatrol avoid bringing Pagans onto its advisory panel?

    Thank you,
    Lowell McFarland mcfarlan@ct1.nai.net

    Here is a copy of CyberPatrol's criteria as posted on Compuserve. CyberPatrol is also the 3rd Party consultant for that system's parental controls. Careful analogy of this seems to not only show inconsistencies in religion but also in isues involving nudity. The banning of satanic sites would be religious discrimination but a satanic church would have to be the party suing undoubtedly. Also the nudity clauses allow for certain types of nudity in that art and "National Geographic"-type images are allowable. As such if you are an indigenous black native in Africa its OK to show your breasts but if a white western recreationalist at a nude beach its not OK. NAACP would love this one.

    Observation - their criteria for cult closely fits the Catholic Church, Church of Christ LDS (Mormon), and numerous others.
    (Courtesy of D. Kirkpatrick.)

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    Cyber Patrol CyberNOT List Criteria
    Microsystems Software has used what we believe to be reasonable means to identify and categorize CyberNOTs, but we cannot guarantee the accuracy or completeness of our screens and we assume no responsibility for errors or omissions. Please report errors and omissions using the Site Investigation Report. Category Definitions -- 5/9/96 Any on-line content that contains more than 3 instances in 100 messages. Any easily accessible pages with graphics or text which fall within the definition of the categories below will be considered sufficient to place the source in the category. Violence/Profanity (graphics or text): Pictures or text exposing extreme cruelty, physical or emotional acts against any animal or person which are primarily intended to hurt or inflict pain. Obscene words, phrases, and profanity defined as text that uses, but is not limited to, George Carlin's 7 censored words more often than once every 50 messages (newsgroups) or once a page (web sites). Partial Nudity: Pictures exposing the female breast or full exposure of either male or female buttocks except when exposing genitalia. (Excludes all swimsuits, including thongs) Full Nudity: Pictures exposing any or all portions of the human genitalia. Please note: Excluded from the Partial Nudity and Full Nudity categories are sites containing nudity or partial nudity of a wholesome nature. For example: Web sites containing publications such as National Geographic or Smithsonian Magazine. Or sites hosted by museums such as the Guggenheim, the Louvre, or the Museum of Modern Art. Sexual Acts (graphics or text): Pictures or text exposing anyone or anything involved in explicit sexual acts and or lewd and lascivious behavior, including masturbation, copulation, pedophilia, intimacy involving nude or partially nude people in heterosexual, bisexual, lesbian or homosexual encounters. Also includes phone sex ads, dating services, and adult personals, CD-ROM's and videos. Gross Depictions (graphics or text): Pictures or descriptive text of anyone or anything which are crudely vulgar or grossly deficient in civility or behavior or which show scatological impropriety. Includes such depictions as maiming, bloody figures, or indecent depiction of bodily functions. Intolerance (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating prejudice or discrimination against any race, color, national origin, religion, disability or handicap, gender, or sexual orientation. Any picture or text that elevates one group over another. Also includes and intolerant jokes or slurs. Satanic/Cult (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating devil worship, an affinity for evil, or wickedness. Or the advocacy to join a cult. A cult is defined by: A closed society that is headed by a single individual where loyalty is demanded and leaving is punishable. Drugs/Drug Culture (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating the illegal use of drugs for entertainment. Includes substances used for other than their primary purpose to alter the individual's state of mind, such as glue sniffing. This would exclude currently illegal drugs legally prescribed for medicinal purposes (e.g., drugs used to treat glaucoma or cancer). Militant/Extremist (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating extremely aggressive and combative behaviors, or advocacy of unlawful political measures. Topics include groups that advocate violence as a means to achieve their goals. Includes "how to" information on weapons making, ammunition making or the making or use of pyrotechnics materials. Also includes the use of weapons for unlawful reasons. Sex Education (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating the proper use of contraceptives. This topic would include condom use, the correct way to wear a condom and how to put a condom in place. Also included are sites relating to discussion about the use of the Pill, IUD's and other types of contraceptives. In addition to the above, this category will include discussion sites on - how to talk to your partner about diseases, pregnancy and respecting boundaries. Excluded from this category are commercial sites wishing to sell sexual paraphernalia. Questionable/Illegal & Gambling (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating materials or activities of a dubious nature which may be illegal in any or all jurisdictions, such as illegal business schemes, chain letters, copyright infringement, computer hacking, phreaking (using someone's phone lines without permission) and software piracy. Also includes text advocating gambling relating to lotteries, casinos, betting, numbers games, on-line sports or financial betting, including non-monetary dares. Alcohol & Tobacco (graphics or text): Pictures or text advocating the sale, consumption, or production of alcoholic beverages and tobacco products. All of the above categories pertain to advocacy information: how to obtain inappropriate materials and or how to build, grow or use said materials. The categories do not pertain to sites containing opinion or educational material, such as the historical use of marijuana or the circumstances surrounding 1940's anti-Semitic Germany.

    The following article, by Douglas Rushkoff , concerning Boston's turning over of censorship of public computers in schools and libraries to CyberPatrol, appeared on the UK's Guardian Online at http://go2.guardian.co.uk:80/theweb/859389144-cyber.html

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    CYBERLIFE US Douglas Rushkoff

    Censor secrecy

    Thanks to a mayor looking for votes from the moral right, children in Boston are no longer allowed to access Internet sites offering information about feminism, or counselling on eating disorders.

    Odd? Indeed. But when a politician turns over the authority to censor what our children see online to a company looking to maintain a competitive advantage while advancing its own agendas, anything is possible.

    Net filtering software sounds like a good idea on the surface. It prevents a Web browser from accessing sites with pornography and other subjects parents might not like their children to see. The mayor of Boston has ordered that such a filtering product, called CyberPatrol, be installed in all public schools and libraries in his city.

    What most people don't realise is that CyberPatrol blocks access to lots of things other than pornography. Among the currently banned sites are a 130-nation network of environment activists called Environet, a Jewish community guide called The Jewish Bulletin and the anti-censorship archives of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Worse yet, the program's manufacturers, claiming market considerations, keep the list of banned sites a secret. We don't even know what we aren't allowed to see.

    However reprehensible government-mandated censorship is, when the Nazis banned books at least they made the list of undesirable authors public. By keeping their lists a trade secret, software companies appoint themselves the new arbiters of cultural decency.

    Filtering programs such as CyberPatrol give parents the illusion of control over their children's Web wanderings, but actually surrender it to total strangers whose true cultural and commercial objectives might far outweigh their dedication to keeping kids safe from mental harm.

    Believe it or not, a city government in the US has officially granted the authority to censor its citizens to a private company whose criteria for banning is never disclosed. Is there a name for this new style of governance? Corporate fascism?

    Not to worry. The programs don't really work too well. Sure, they prevent public-owned computers from accessing sites that are deemed objectionable; but the lists of banned sites are regularly cracked by anti-censorship hackers, and then posted to newsgroups and Web sites. Ironically, this helps only to highlight the material that the censors would hope to quash. Kids circumvent the filter programs or log on to private terminals and then seek out the banned sites with renewed vigour.

    Ultimately, isolating and thus spotlighting so-called questionable behaviours only serves to fetishise them.

    While I might personally disagree with parents who hope to limit their children's access to the online world, I wholly support those who might choose to do so. But parents who think their children's Net meandering can really be regulated with a software package have been lulled into a false sense of security. More disastrously, when they allow themselves to be intimidated into permitting a private company to make these sorts of decisions for them and their communities, they are inviting social tyranny by non-elected, unaccountable entities.

    If you or your community are planning to institute a system of Net filtering, at least make sure the list of sites being banned and the criteria for such selection is in your control. Anything short of this might take the cultural agenda out of the hands of pornographers only to give it to someone worse.

    © Douglas Rushkoff 1997

    Action Results: CyberPatrol's Reply

    Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "David R. Burwasser" To: cuups-usa@efn.org, cuups-l@uua.org, danica@mills.edu Cc: susang@microsys.com Subject: re: CyperPatrol and religion intolerance (fwd) I received the following post regarding the filter protocols of Cyber Patrol from the responsible party, Susan Getgood, who gave me forwarding permission (for which, thanks). IIRC there was one correspondent on one list whose site was banned by this software for no apparent good reason; this is particularly to her attention. Blessed be, Dave Burwasser ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 09:50:33 -0800 From: SUSAN GETGOOD To: "David R. Burwasser" Subject: re: CyperPatrol and religion intolerance Thank you for your e-mail. It is entirely possible that a pagan site might be filtered in Cyber Patrol under the Satanic/Cult or other criteria. It is equally possible that any given pagan site is NOT filtered. We apply our published criteria to the sites as we find them and restrict according to the content found on the site. You can find our criteria at http://www.microsys.com/cybernot/ If a Wiccan or Pagan site is restricted, it is because it meets the criteria. If you have specific URLs that you would like to check for inclusion on our list, I urge you to visit our search engine at www.microsys.com/cybernot and check the URL there. If you would like further information at that point, please send us an e-mail with your questions. If you believe we have mis-classified a site, please let us know. Regards Susan Getgood > From: "David R. Burwasser" , on 3/31/97 8:37 > AM: > > Dear "susang@microsys.com": > > I am writing to you as the reportedly responsible party for the > programming of CyperPatrol, a software product to permit parents to block > their children's access to pornography, drug encouragement, hate > literature, etc on the Internet. > > My understanding is that several Wiccan and/or Pagan web sites are > blocked by CyberPatrol because of supposed "Satanic/Cult" connections. > > These are religions we are talking about, and they are not out to exploit > children. Pagan spirituality is recognized formally by the United States > Government, in that the Military Chaplain's Handbook has a section on > chaplaincy to Pagan servicemembers -- a section written by Gordon Melton, > a Methodist religion scholar. The Unitarian Universalist denomination has > recently recognized Earth Centered Spirituality as one of its religious > sources. > > There is no more justification for labelling these sites "Satanic/Cult" > than there is to apply that label to a Jewish or Buddhist site. > > Application of that kind of label to Earth Centered religion, is an > enthusiasm of a small minority of clergy who call themselves Christian. > Somehow you or your advisors have allowed someone of that orientation to > influence your protocols. The result is that CyberPatrol has become what > it is designed to filter out: A piece of Internet hate literature. > > As an Internet professional you are, I assume, aware that the current > media flap over the web site of the "Heaven's Gate" suicide cult is > basically the non-Internetted panicking one another, and that "Heaven's > Gate" is as atypical of Internet traffic as would its printed material be > of ink-on-paper publishing. There is no premise here for silencing an > entire category of religious site. > > Very sincerely yours, > > David R. Burwasser > ******* Susan Getgood, Microsystems Software, Inc. 508 879 9000, e-mail susang@microsys.com www.microsys.com / www.cyberpatrol.com

    CyberPatrol Process
    Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "David R. Burwasser" To: FIRE Cc: zburwasser Subject: Re: FIRE: action info: CyperPatrol On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, John Brightshadow Yohalem... > Went over the cyberpatrol criteria, and none of them struck me as things > under which most pagan sites I've visited could possibly be eliminated. > Letters to them might point out that we don't worship devils or anything > Satanic -- I know it's a bore to do that all over again, guys, but they > don't get the message Outlaw Pussycat has been snagging stuff from web sites on this, and together with that and what has been unearthed here and on ERAL/ERACL: Alas, would it were that simple. The process sucks. They have a network of people surfing the net all day and recommending sites for banning. The recommendation is often sufficient. Eg, an animal-rights site was banned because its pictures were icky. (Another "family values" oriented product that bans the topic of feminism(!) gets recommendations from existing customers.) To appeal, you have to find out you have been banned; you are not notified. And the appeal process is not swift. One guy complained about his own website, just to see what would happen; it worked fine & fast. He is now appealing, and waiting... The advisory board for this product does not know the whole banned list -- it is updated weekly -- and have been surprised to find out what is on the list when third parties tell them. That board include reps from NOW, NAACP and a gay/lesbian anti-defamation outfit called GLAAD, but they seem to be figureheads and not know it. (Other advisors include Morality in Media, the PTO, the teachers' union, and the NRA(!).) This product was touted as a smut-blocker, but it has other categories, as we have seen. It is promoted as a parental service for the protection of children, but it is being proposed for use in public libraries. Boston is probably going to implement it in the children's section of the city libraries; that is a compromise from the total implementation the mayor wanted. >From what I have seen, these folks have a product to sell, and they care most about that, less about fairness, and least about consistency. ERAL/ERACL is noodling strategies. I am constrained not to be more forthcoming off that list. :-( > But I don't think they have a leg to stand on by their own > criteria -- except the prejudice they themselves denounce in another of the > criteria. Getting them into any venue of judgement other than the marketplace, to count how many legs they have to stand on, is not that simple. They don't debate; they are a private operation not bound by the strictures of the Bill of Rights; they have a (rhetorically) powerful defense in the argument that nobody is forced to use their product -- the same argument used by the pornographers who are their primary target of record. On the surface, it *looks* like a free-market-of-ideas standoff, unless you are in one of the marginal categories (Pagan, HIV+, nudist, gay teenager, etc) caught in the gears. Blessed be, Dave Burwasser

    CyberPatrol, one of the leading providers of Web Site "filtering" (blocking/censoring to some) has agreed to discuss adding a Pagan or Wiccan to their Oversight Committee: ********************************************************************* > From: Lowell & Nancy McFarland , on 3/28/97 9:56 AM: > To: debrag@microsys.com > I seem to note that CyberPatrol's advisory panel contains several > Christian advisors but there is no indication of a > Pagan advisor. [CyberPatrol Overview Committee (http://www.microsys.com/pr97/cnot397.htm) "...meets every two months and is made up of representatives from a wide range of social, political and civic organizations, including the National Organization of Women (NOW), the National Rifle Association (NRA), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), Morality in Media, the teacher's union and the PTO, as well as a superintendent of schools, a social worker, a psychologist and a minister. All decisions by the committee are made by majority vote." This added by LMcF April 6, 1997, for clarification. ] > As Pagans are reportedly the fastest growing religious group > in the US and the group most maligned by mainstream > religious fanatics, is this an oversight or is it on purpose? > Christian groups regularly call Pagans Satanists (even CyberPatrol > lumps Satanists with Cults and then bans Pagan sites under > the category of Satanists/Cults) and infers anti children > activities. > Of course, Satan is a mainstay of Christian, Jewish and Muslim > (etc.) religions, but absent in most Pagan and Celtic religions. > Celts don't even have a Hell as all Celts go to Avalon - > regardless. > As a Celt, often referred to as a Pagan, I recognize that > Pagans, being older than today's mainstream religions, have > differing ideas and concepts about many things including > parenting, tolerance, good & evil, art, history, importance of > females, etc. > Is it possible that you could add Pagans to your advisory council? > Thank you, > Lowell McFarland mcfarlan@ct1.nai.net > > SUSAN GETGOOD wrote: > > Thank you for your e-mail. At our next CyberNOT Oversight > > Committee meeting, we will indeed be discussing adding a Pagan > > or Wiccan member to the Oversight Committee. > > Regards > > Susan Getgood > > Director of Marketing > > SUSANG@MICROSYS.COM > From: Lowell & Nancy McFarland , on 4/3/97 1:23 PM: > SUSAN GETGOOD > Dear Ms. Getgood, > Thank you for your quick reply. > I appreciate your (and Microsystems, CyberPatrol's) consideration > of a possible Pagan member for your oversight committee. > As there is so much anger and misinformation about Pagans, > I don't know how non-Pagans can fairly access the need for a Pagan > and Pagan viewpoints on your oversight committee. > I would like to send you some material that may be of assistance > in case you do not have a live Pagan, at your next oversight > committee meeting, to explain aspects of Paganism and how a Pagan > might assist in parental choices. > As the Pagan community is very concerned about issues involved > with CyberPatrol, absent your objection, I would like to forward > our communication to the Pagan Net. > I think Pagans can contribute important viewpoints about Internet > Web Sites - if I can be of further help, please call on me. > Loch Sloy! > Lowell McFarland mcfarlan@ct1.nai.net > Lowell -- please feel free to forward any information you think might be helpful to us. You are certainly welcome to forward our recent correspondence to a listserv or newsgroup. I would appreciate it if you would copy me on your posting. regards susan ******* Susan Getgood, Microsystems Software, Inc. 508 879 9000, e-mail susang@microsys.com http://www.microsys.com / http://www.cyberpatrol.com ********************************************************************** Background In short, recently there has been increased concern among Celts, Pagans, Witches, Wiccans, etc., about the apparent increase in Pagan Bashing, especially on the Internet. The thirtynine suicides of the the Christian Heaven's Gate cult seemed to slide into the usual inaccurate Pagan Bashing of "Pagans are cultists and Satanists and parents (and concerned groups)should protect their children from Pagans." Pagans and their cults(???) seem to be in the forefront of parental warnings rather than those cultists who are fixated on the Book of Revelations. Coupled with multiple complaints from Pagans that their Web Site has been unfairly censored (by a variety of "Net Nanny" groups) as "inappropriate to children" or related to Satanic Groups or Cults, plus additional concerns including CyberPatrol contracts with city governments to "filter" all computer usage of schools and libraries, I wrote to CyberPatrol and the e-mails are shown above. On reflection, I recommend that those in our community in Boston, Salem or New England could better continue this dialogue with Ms. Susan Getgood of CyberPatrol/Microsys Inc. I would/will assist or continue to present our concerns and abilities to Ms. Getgood and CyberPatrol, if wanted. If there are any recommendations, of any sort, please let me know. I believe that the possibility of Pagans, with our unique sense of tolerance, sexual equality, educational importance, parenting, etc., achieving standing with "Net Nanny" organizations is crucial. Absent achieving a seat at the filtering table, dialogue is the next best thing. I wish to again thank Ms. Susan Getgood for this opportunity for dialogue and possible participation by the Pagan Community. References; http://www.microsys.com/cyber/cp_list.htm http://www.microsys.com/pr97/cnot397.htm http://www.microsys.com/prfiles/sn896.htm http://www.microsys.com/cyber/cp_site.htm http://go2.guardian.co.uk:80/theweb/859389144-cyber.html http://www.artbell.com Microsystems Software Inc 600 Worchester Road Framingham, MA 01702 USA Microsystems Software International Ltd Silwood Park, Buckhurst Road Ascot, Berkshire SL5 7PW UK info@microsys.com Loch Sloy! Lowell McFarland mcfarlan@ct1.nai.net


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