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From: lozano-antoni@CS.YALE.EDU (Antoni Lozano)
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.catalan
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
soc.culture.catalan
We propose the creation of a newsgroup named soc.culture.catalan of
status unmoderated to provide a forum for the discussion of issues relative
to Catalan culture and language or to any aspect of the life in the
Catalan-speaking territories.
We think that there is currently no appropriate forum for this discussion,
since the Catalan-speaking territories are in different states
(Andorra, part of Spain and France, and the italian city of
L'Alguer), and then no soc.culture.* newsgroup associated with these
states or with their most representative cultures can be inclussive enough.
Also, the fact that
a great portion of the postings to the group soc.culture.spain
in the last weeks speak about Catalonia and related topics indicates
that it can be worth to create such a newsgroup.
We propose no restrictions as to the languages used for postings
in this newsgroup, although Catalan is expected most often.
We shall be thankful for forwarding this file to other people who
are interested in Catalan culture or language.
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Proposem la creacio d'un "newsgroup" anomenat soc.culture.catalan
d'status no moderat per disposar d'un forum de discussio d'assumptes
relacionats amb la cultura i la llengua catalanes o amb qualsevol
aspecte de la vida als territoris catalano-parlants.
Creiem que no hi ha actualment cap forum que s'adigui a aquest tema,
doncs els territoris de llengua catalana pertanyen a diferents estats
(Andorra, part d'Espanya i Franc,a i la ciutat italiana de l'Alguer),
i aleshores cap "newsgroup" soc.culture.* associat a aquests estats
o a les seves cultures mes representatives pot esser prou inclussiu.
El fet que una gran proporcio dels missatges al grup soc.culture.spain
en les darreres setmanes parlin sobre Catalunya i temes relacionats
indica que pot valdre la pena crear aquest grup.
No proposem cap restriccio quant als idiomes utilitzats per col.laborar
amb aquest "newsgroup", tot i que el catala s'espera mes sovint.
Estarem agraits a tot qui envii aquest fitxer a altra gent interessada
en la cultura o la llengua catalanes.
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(this proposal has been written in representation of a long list of people;
it would be hard to enumerate all of them)
From ipa@vador.grenoble.hp.com Thu Sep 21 14:10:38 1995
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From: Jordi Iparraguirre
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Subject: RFD: soc.culture.catalan
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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group soc.culture.catalan
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet Newsgroup, soc.culture.catalan
RATIONALE: soc.culture.catalan
There is already a well established mailing list for Catalan speakers
and friends of the Catalan-spoking countries called
. However, there has been an increasing number
of people looking for information and discussions on the Catalan
language and the countries in which it is spoken (i.e. Paisos
Catalans) in the soc. hierarchy of the newsgroups. It would therefore
be advantageous to create soc.culture.catalan in order to make
discussions on those topics more accessible to the entire network
community.
In addition, the mailing list is getting around 35 messages/day
(average during September 1995), so quite difficult to manage if you
are getting it by email. We feel that the number of articles seems to
justify the creation of this newsgroup.
Some discussions related to Catalan issues are usually carried out in
soc.culture.spain. However, there are a number of issues that are
relevant to the Catalan-speaking countries that are not relevant to
soc.culture.spain.
The name, soc.culture.catalan, is proposed because other soc.culture.*
newsgroups take the name on the languages and cultures and not on the
country where thay are speaked (i.e. soc.culture.french
soc.culture.welsh).
The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for
those interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas,
and feelings about the Catalan language and culture.
Possible discussion issues include aspects of Catalan-speaking countries:
- culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography;
- societies, traditions, customs;
- politics;
- literature, poetry, art, folklore;
- language, books;
- science, technology;
- local events, news, programs, economy;
- communities abroad, problems, needs; and
- *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups.
CHARTER: soc.culture.catalan
An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a world wide forum for
the discussion of the culture and all other issues of interest
to catalan-speakers worldwide and all those people with an interest in
the Catalan countries (Paisos Catalans).
To spread the knowledge, anywhere in internet, on the Catalan language,
history and culture.
To provide a new forum for the discussion of all issues about
the Catalan Countries ("Paisos Catalans") i.e. all the territories that have
any dialectal variant of Catalan as a native language. (around 10 milion
speakers)
END CHARTER.
PROCEDURE:
This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation
of a soc.culture.catalan newsgroup. Discussion will take place
on news.groups. If discussions are made in other newsgroups, they
should always be cross-posted to news.groups.
* This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now.
A call for votes (CFV) will be issued approximately 4 weeks after
this RFD. When the CFV is posted, there will be instructions on
how to mail your votes to the independent vote-taker.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups
Creation, and has been cross-posted to the following relevant
newsgroups:
news.announce.newsgroups news.groups, bit.listserv.catala,
soc.culture.misc, soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.spain,
soc.culture.french, soc.culture.italian
This RFD has already been presented to bit.listserv.catala and it
summarizes the reaction of the people that sent their comments
(12 people and 70 messages) since July.
--
Sincerely;
Jordi Iparraguirre (
geocities.com/capitolhill/senate) (
geocities.com/capitolhill)