Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 10:00 p.m. EDT


Announced Topic: The Founder's Message

Attendees: damsel_in_ddk, mistybunny, sharonlower, clubfoundersclub, amonij, ArrylT, lulabelle16


sharonlower says, I am new here hope to learn something here...

mistybunny says, Hello

amonij says, Hi Misty...a belated Happy Birthday to you dear

mistybunny says, Hi Sharon, welcome to the club

mistybunny says, thanks!

clubfoundersclub says, anyway, my puter crashed in the middle of the dl and so I need to check something

sharonlower says, Thank you

clubfoundersclub says, can you hold the fort for a minute or two mistybunny?

mistybunny says, I'm sure I can

amonij says, go ahead CFC

mistybunny says, so whats happening tonight?

amonij says, misty...do you have a topic set for tonight ??

mistybunny says, we were supposed to be talking about Founders messages in teh club

mistybunny says, suggestions on how to make them welcoming etc

amonij says, yes,ok...sorry brain fog here

sharonlower says, that would be great

sharonlower says, pen and paper ready

amonij says, how do you put your founder message in notebook??

mistybunny says, we have been visiting some of the clubs and there certainly are some very unwelcoming founders messages

sharonlower says, like what

sharonlower says, if you dont mind me asking

mistybunny says, well you can type it in there and save it as a file, but I'm not sure what Angel means by that

damsel_in_ddk says, hi gang...dont say hi I have a mintue to read everything I missed...lol

sharonlower says, Hi

amonij says, how about setting up a grade system,for the clubs that are members, so they will be aware of what is needed

mistybunny says, some people just put in their club stuff like: "HI come and chat about anything don't spam please"

mistybunny says, well amonij, we are not here to critisize but to help and offer assistance

damsel_in_ddk says, I thso what are ideas you came up with

sharonlower says, mistybunny are a founder of this club?

mistybunny says, something that we see in a club may not suit us..........but the club members and founder may just be happy with it

mistybunny says, Yes sharon, I'm a co-founder in CFC

sharonlower says, Ok thank you

amonij says, I didn't mean for it to sound offencive

mistybunny says, no prob

damsel_in_ddk says, BASE HIt I missed it

mistybunny says, its okay amonij, I didn't take it that way

sharonlower says, can we start on some good ideas for a Founders Message??

damsel_in_ddk says, what ideas do you have?

mistybunny says, sure

mistybunny says, me?

sharonlower says, yes

damsel_in_ddk says, I like to see the dates on founders messages

damsel_in_ddk says, makes me know the club is still alive

mistybunny says, hang on I'll send you to my club and you can see mine

damsel_in_ddk says, at least the month should be there somewhere

sharonlower says, ok

sharonlower says, I agree

mistybunny says, http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/guidingonthego

mistybunny says, DID, that would be a good thing to bring up to Warren

damsel_in_ddk says, my team just scored!

damsel_in_ddk says, yes

damsel_in_ddk says, I put the date on my founders message

damsel_in_ddk says, i used to change it EVERY day

sharonlower says, I do too

amonij says, as in a monthly update,with the Founders message??

amonij says, really?? everyday..

damsel_in_ddk says, no as in on the top of my founders message I type the Date..

mistybunny says, thats a very good idea DID, why not post that idea in the club on the message board

damsel_in_ddk says, yes I did it every day for a year

mistybunny says, I just don't have time for that! LOL

damsel_in_ddk says, because I dont think about stuff like this until we bring it up

mistybunny says, I only have one club to look after, AngelPie does CFC

damsel_in_ddk says, so you can share my idea

damsel_in_ddk says, I'm at your club

sharonlower says, I make a note of all the news of the day in the club, birthdays, events, new members names and the Post # when I post

amonij says, how old is your club,DID

damsel_in_ddk says, this is what I think about founders messages

damsel_in_ddk says, 2 years and a week

damsel_in_ddk says, the people coming in who REALLY read the messages are the newbies

damsel_in_ddk says, the stuff for them should be more at the top

damsel_in_ddk says, your members will notice "changes" but not read the whole thing

damsel_in_ddk says, you want to get the newbies to STAY, thats the poit

damsel_in_ddk says, so putting important stuff for new people, lower on the message might NOT get their attention

mistybunny says, thats true DID, and I have the basic message, but change other parts of it

damsel_in_ddk says, you have 2 seconds before someone "Clicks" to another club

clubfoundersclub enters

damsel_in_ddk says, I see you use ***** to divid the topics like most of us

mistybunny says, wb Angel

mistybunny says, yes I do

damsel_in_ddk says, put the newbie info in its own section

clubfoundersclub says, Boy, I hate that. I even checked to make sure I could log in at 5 p.m. this afternoon.

clubfoundersclub says, geesh

damsel_in_ddk says, I didn't even notice the newbie info at first

amonij says, wb cfc

clubfoundersclub says, thank you

damsel_in_ddk says, hi cfc

clubfoundersclub says, okay, that kind of distracted me far too long

damsel_in_ddk says, I dont think most people read the founders messages unless they have clubs of their own and really care

amonij says, very true there

damsel_in_ddk says, I know I read every message I go into, to see if it changed

damsel_in_ddk says, I do too

damsel_in_ddk says, but I dont think the average Joe does

clubfoundersclub says, it is what persaudes me whether this club is worth it to join

mistybunny says, brb phone

amonij says, k

clubfoundersclub says, like what is different about this club than all the other clubs in category

damsel_in_ddk says, how many times have you seen someone ask a question and the answer is right on the founders message

clubfoundersclub says, that is true

sharonlower is away (Auto-Away)

clubfoundersclub says, like my request to enter your clubname in comments. Everyone seems to miss it.

damsel_in_ddk says, my point was "newbie" info should be on the top of the messages

sharonlower is back.

sharonlower says, Question?

damsel_in_ddk says, right

clubfoundersclub says, Ask away, sharonlower.

sharonlower says, Should Founders Message be a post

sharonlower says, Iam confused and new sorry

damsel_in_ddk says, divid that up with some **** and use CAPS maybe they will see it

clubfoundersclub says, this is unmoderated chat so you can just speak up

sharonlower says, ok

amonij says, if it is about the club,I could see about answering it in founders mesg...but other then that no,would take up too much time

sharonlower says, Should it change often?

damsel_in_ddk says, YES

clubfoundersclub says, That depends. There are parts of our welcome that I change weekly.

damsel_in_ddk says, I think when you change it around they notice it

clubfoundersclub says, LOL

amonij says, shouldn't it be with co-founders also adding into the message,or just the founder??

clubfoundersclub says, but then I am doing something rather specialized in the founder message

clubfoundersclub says, That's a possibility...to allow cofounders to take turns or a divider and message, divider and message

damsel_in_ddk says, either can change it

damsel_in_ddk says, but the name only shows the "last" founder that edited the message

clubfoundersclub says, multiple messages, as long as they do not contradict each other could work

damsel_in_ddk says, it would be SOOO cool to have different areas for different founders

clubfoundersclub says, not if they sign in the body of the text

amonij says, that I know,but as a founder,you don't want additional info put in,without you knowing whats up

sharonlower says, Can at times be too much

clubfoundersclub says, you know...message (club foundersclub

clubfoundersclub says, yes, and they only increased us from 500 words to 1000

clubfoundersclub says, and then you have to cheat to get them all in

sharonlower says, I have news posted with the Posts# and other messages so I dont have My own Founders Message

amonij says, its hard to keep to that,when there is so much to say...lol

mistybunny is away (on the phone)

clubfoundersclub says, Well, I think it is important to say something at the top about club topic

damsel_in_ddk says, what's your club sharon?

sharonlower says, Which ones LOL

clubfoundersclub says, and then the next line, probably something about what makes you different in category

damsel_in_ddk says, you have the sub heading for a club topic too

clubfoundersclub says, Sharonlower has several clubs.

sharonlower says, LOL you noticed You Really Noticed

amonij says, lol

clubfoundersclub says, BTW, CFC is about to change its Founder Message so this topic is pretty timely

clubfoundersclub says, of course, I've visited three of your clubs already

clubfoundersclub says, but I saw on your profile that you belong to many more.

sharonlower says, I think My messages are good But still what really gets the members to posting and coming to chats

sharonlower says, Yes

clubfoundersclub says, <--AngelPie_Mouse BTW

sharonlower says, AH Ok

clubfoundersclub says, I was working on the homepage before I came in.

amonij says, With mine having so many chat times,that has become first,on the message.

sharonlower says, Love the LOGOS!!!

clubfoundersclub says, thank you

sharonlower says, So impressed with them and this club

amonij says, The newsletter was so refreshing...and informative

clubfoundersclub says, I don't mean to hide from people, just that when working on the homepage, I hate switching IDs back and forth

clubfoundersclub says, thank you again

amonij says, understandable

sharonlower says, I was up late last night working on a Regional Website for LDSEmployment the first in Southern California

sharonlower says, Oh I understand

sharonlower says, Lots of work!!! My son did a Java script thats ON the page now

damsel_in_ddk says, see you next inning

clubfoundersclub says, that's cool. I haven't seen your websites yet, just the three clubs.

amonij says, l did

amonij says, ok

sharonlower says, http://www.oocities.org/ldsemploymentcenter

clubfoundersclub says, okay, so who wants to post their sick founder message first?

amonij says, whats the 'lds' stand for,sharon??

clubfoundersclub says, who's going to be our guinnea pig?

amonij says, I didn't understand about putting it in the notebook??

clubfoundersclub says, LDS = Latter Day Saints

sharonlower says, Latter Day Saints (the Mormons)

sharonlower says, Yes Thank You

amonij says, ok,sharon, ty

clubfoundersclub says, note pad

clubfoundersclub says, a cut and paste

sharonlower says, I have music

clubfoundersclub says, I figured if you opened your Windows Notepad you could copy the message to it and from it easier

sharonlower says, thats great idea

amonij says, where is the notepad??

amonij says, as you can see,its not something I use

clubfoundersclub says, Your notepad is in Windows Accessories

clubfoundersclub says, hit Start button, go programs (that's usual), click accessories, click notepad

clubfoundersclub says, it is a plain text editor and saves files in format .txt

amonij says, you copy the founders message first,tho...correct??

sharonlower says, It worked

clubfoundersclub says, highlight it on your page, CTRL-C, place your cursor on the notepad, CTRL-V

clubfoundersclub says, That's a cut and paste

clubfoundersclub says, or copy and paste

clubfoundersclub says, You can copy all sorts of things that way.

clubfoundersclub says, I use that routine to copy out the membership list in this club every Friday.

sharonlower says, Then print it out?

clubfoundersclub says, That's security, BTW, in case your club is hacked. With the names of your members you can invite them to your new club.

sharonlower says, Yes but Do you print out your Members names too

clubfoundersclub says, Well, I get a bit fancier because I take that list and then make a list of everyone's clubs.

sharonlower says, I print them out monthly and add them to my list weekly

damsel_in_ddk says, did I miss anything good

amonij says, ok,I have it notepad,had to word wrap it...lol

clubfoundersclub says, I seldom commit to paper, if that's what you mean, but I do mail a copy to ArrylT, Mistybunny, and NOWAYWINS

amonij says, now what do I do with it??

clubfoundersclub says, you have your notepad open?

amonij says, yes

damsel_in_ddk says, do you save the chats with notepad too?

sharonlower says, So you are saying to Copy the Membership TO the Notepad and save it that way?

clubfoundersclub says, okay, you can save this in your club notes folder as foundermessage-date.txt

damsel_in_ddk says, I always wondered how you have what everyone says

clubfoundersclub says, You mean in the thread digest?

sharonlower says, interesting

clubfoundersclub says, or in chat?

damsel_in_ddk leaves

damsel_in_ddk enters

clubfoundersclub says, what do you mean "I always wondered how you have what everyone says?"

sharonlower says, Yeah what does that mean?

damsel_in_ddk leaves

clubfoundersclub says, in chat, the software I am using allows me to save copies of the text.

amonij says, would I do save...or save as and make the folder for club??

amonij says, brb...light blew

damsel_in_ddk enters

clubfoundersclub says, click the save, then in the upper corner of the menu, you'll see a little yellow folder with a star, that's for creating a folder if you don't have one

clubfoundersclub says, click that folder, tell it what you want to call the folder

clubfoundersclub says, clubname would probably be a good choice

clubfoundersclub says, then you can save e-mail to it and all that

sharonlower says, wow

clubfoundersclub says, once you have the folder, click it, to enter it

clubfoundersclub says, then save the message as whateveryoucallit.txt

damsel_in_ddk says, I think I missed the answer about saving the chats

clubfoundersclub says, now, when you want to find the folder again, to work in it or something, click MyComputer, the drive and it should show up as a folder icon called your clubname

clubfoundersclub says, that's a function of cheeta chat

clubfoundersclub says, it allows us to save transcripts of sections of chat when we click a button

damsel_in_ddk says, whats cheeta chat?

clubfoundersclub says, I piece the sections together when I prepare them for the homepage

clubfoundersclub says, Cheeta Chat is just chat software and a lot nicer to use than Yahoo! chat

damsel_in_ddk says, are you using some other kind of chat to be in here besides Yahoo?

clubfoundersclub says, it accesses Yahoo! Chat

clubfoundersclub says, yep

damsel_in_ddk says, where do you get cheeta chat?

damsel_in_ddk says, you have to buy it or can you download it somewhere?

amonij says, I have cheeta...less booting with it

damsel_in_ddk says, I dont get booted much only when I do something stupid, I have T1 connection

clubfoundersclub says, http://www.cheetachat.com/

clubfoundersclub says, it is freeware

sharonlower says, Before i get off..doing a Halloween party for my Church Saturday.expecting calls..When will Yahoo Founders Edit Club colors get fixec?

ArrylT enters

clubfoundersclub says, okay, the thing is if we change our club colors we lose our background graphic

sharonlower says, What background graphic?

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mistybunny says, okay I'm back

mistybunny says, geeze

sharonlower says, How do I add a Background I have saved to my club?

amonij says, wb misty

clubfoundersclub says, yahoo!

mistybunny says, sorry Angel

amonij says, and hello Arry

clubfoundersclub says, that you cannot do at the moment

sharonlower says, Ok

sharonlower says, too bad

mistybunny says, Hello Arryl

ArrylT says, hi MB

clubfoundersclub says, yah, I am looking forward to having holly and ivy on CFC for Christmas...I hope

mistybunny says, oohh that would be nice Angel

ArrylT says, and of course everyone else

mistybunny says, I won't be holding my breath for backgrounds .....or anything else from yahoo.....

clubfoundersclub says, yes, and I will be going into overdrive making custom backgrounds when it happens

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