HERE IS THE PAGE WHERE PEOPLE SEND IN THEIR VIEWPOINTS, FOR OR AGAINST THE PAGE AND THE SPICE GIRLS, AND I POST THEM.
A WORD FROM ME.
Not all the opinions here I share.   This is not a place for me to respond to them, either.   If I could, I would, and generally I have.  But I am not going to post them here, because I think that it doesn't matter whether I don't agree with personally.  They should be voiced, and it is good that they are voiced.  If you do want to congratulate or argue witht he author of any piece shown here, send me (nickcromwell@oocities.com) the message, and I will promptly forward it to them.

The first opinion is one written by a member of the DROSGH. Some interesting views, Professor!


Spice, as is commonly known, was first imported from the Far East to Medieval Europe. It immediately became very popular because it was able to completely mask any hint of putrid quality from rotten foods, such as meat. Very similarly, the "Spice" we now see and hear cavorting on the air waves and squandering hard-earned American dollars, is, in fact, nothing more than an easily-accepted cover for something truly awful, and even potantially life-threatening.

Yes, that's right. The Spice Girls aren't just awful...they're GOD awful! Of course, many people would disagree with me. However, much like the hungry, desperate peasants of the Middle Ages, they are too uneducated to realize the potential harm behind their "easy way out," and since their way (and, pathetically, only joy) of life is threatened by any editorial negative comments from those with wisdom and experience enough to make them, they instinctively lash out at these brilliant thinkers. Partly it is because they are defending something they love, no matter how ridiculous, and partly it is because they secretly recognise that the "hecklers" are much smarter than they could ever hope to be and are jealous. Jealousy of course breeds animosity, and those same hecklers accept the animosity with grace, sympathy, and pity for these poor souls who compound their blatant idiocy by attempting to answer the observations made in their interests by the hecklers.

The situation is rather reminiscent of that of the huns. Having swept across the eastern plains, ravaging and plundering, they were finally brought to a halt by a group of exceptionally smart monks. These monks had heard of the raging madness and low intellect of the huns by word of mouth, and so were prepared for the huns when they arrived. The monks enlisted the service of a group of maids from the village and taught them to sing (actually, more like squawk; time was of the essence) and sway provacatively whilst clad in scanty outfits. This group was sent wandering on the roads to intercept the huns and steer them away from the village. Unfortunately, times being what they were and ancient mentality not being at all similar to present mentality, the huns raped the group, then shackled them, sacked the village, and continued onward, counting themselves exteremly lucky that they now had a personal dancing troupe. This impressed the other huns immensely and the other tribes began trying to do it themselves. They failed miserably.

One must question the huns' intentions. Certainly they were not at all moral or honorable by today's standards. But were the end results so much different from today's musical (cough-cough) groups? Indeed: quite often, they were better.

Seriously, how could a group named "The Spice Girls" really be any good at all? It seems painfully obvious that the need of an exciting, suggestive title only need arise as a cover up for lack of talent in other areas. Why else do we have I.B.M., Soft Scrub, and Red Hot Chili Peppers? Not to mention Vanilla Ice, The Monkeys, and Lay's. All have provocative, euphemistic titles to hide inferior product quality. But how does this relate to the Spice Girls? One wonders, what could possibly be wrong with an innocuous title like that? It's quite simple. "Spice" has been used in many science fiction novels, and recently in real life, as a euphemism for drugs (Dune and Star Wars are well-known examples), and the word "Girls" is used frequently to suggest sexual contact under the age of consent, a very popular fantasy among the male population (adult entertainers usually use "girls" for the more-accurate "women," as in "topless/bottomless girls," or "girls! girls! girls!").

But this evidence is, of course, meaningless to those who are easily lulled (strangely enough) by the screeching and clanging of the Sirens ca led "Spice Girls." These people are afraid of change, and they find a modicum of assurance with this group that capitalizes on fads and survives on imitation. Here they can find a musical (cough-cough) group with the same tastes and nuances as they, and, in a media-centric world where changes happen before causes even exist, they need all the reassurance they can get that they are not, after all, blind and hopeless morons.

The Auther is a Professor of Behavorial Studies (Dept. B.S.)
at St. Luther's Anthropological Patrons' University. 


This next one is from a concerned Spice Girl fan.   Read it and think about it.


                          I’m completly and totally fed up.  Fed up with everyone telling women what
                          they must be - or suffer the consequences.  “Be on my side, do what I say, or
                          you’re not a REAL feminist.”  It irritates me to no end.


-The author is a concerned feminist and Spice Girl fan who took the time to write this thesis.   Way to go!



An intelligent Web Surfer took the time to write this, and I full heartely agree with most of it.


I was surfing the web, and I came across your site.  I liked it a lot,
there were some good points being made.  I would also like to say some
things that may help you get your point across better to people that
visit your site.
 The good:  I agree whole-heartedly that the Spice Girls are a
calculated idea, the brain-child of a get-rich-quick scheme.  However,
the Girls got rid of that manager, probably because he wanted a cut when
the finally began to hit big.  They do not have girl power, it is
probably just a quote they dreamed up to get some feminists to purchase
their CD.  I think that if they had real girl power, they would use it
to help mankind in some way (e.g. donate their money to a charity to
help find cures for cancer or AIDS).
 Real feminists want equality, (e.g. equal pay for equal work, no sexual
harassment), and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.  Also,
most feminists, assuming that they want a fair environment for
everybody, want the best for their children, such as an environment
where everybody is strong-minded, fair, honest, and are good-role
models.  If you have ever read the article in Entertainment Weekly
(Harrison Ford is on the cover.  Air Force One), you will know that the
Spice Girls are "unrepetant swearers, drinkers, and smokers who talk
openly about sex."  They have been spotted "running through the halls of
the Four Seasons Hotel, swearing, screaming, and Mel B relieving herself
in a potted plant."  (Both of the qoutes are from Entertainment Weekly)
These are not the role models that feminists had in mind.  The girls
can't possibly be what feminism is about, or else everybody will laugh
at feminism.
 Another point is that they don't care about the music, or anybody that
helped them succeed.  They ditched their first manager, gave their
second managers the smallest possible cut of their earnings, and when
they won their MTV award, they only bothered to dedicate their award to
Princess Diana (which I have absolutely no problem with.  If I was up
there, I probably would have dedicated the award to her and Mother
Theresa), but what about Mom and Dad?  Or the other members of the
band.  If you listen to their songs, they have an extremely talented
assortment of percussion and instrumental players.  And the girls give
them absolutely NO Credit what so ever!  I feel sorry for them.
 One more thing about caring for their music, music should come from the
heart and soul.  People who have real "girl power" are Jewel, LeAnn
Rimes, and other female singers who actually CARE about what they put in
their music.
 Eventually, the Spice Girls will have to play live in front of a big
audience to attempt to silence their critics.  They did, in Instanbul,
Turkey.  You'd think they play in London if they were confident they
were going to get rave reviews.  The girls aren't very good live.  I've
heard worse (Cardigans), but the difference between the quality of their
music and they quality of their live shows is huge.
 The Negative:  The Spice Girls aren't ruining humanity, they just
suck.  The points that they say in their music aren't bad, but basically
they talk about having fun and sex.  (there are real problems in the
world, and it's sad that they haven't confronted those).
 The stuff tat you made from the Wannabe single does give the impression
that you are sick perverts with no life, and that you jealous of the
girls (I know that you guys care about music in general, as do I, but
those parodies do give a negative impression)
 That's all I got.  At least the Spice Girls are better than Marylin
Manson (who are making a negative difference in this world) and Hanson
(who just sucks!!!).  But they are Scam Artists
P.S. A friend of mine was in England, and he said you could tell the
difference between a girl under the age of fifteen and above the age of
fifteen, because the girls under the age of fifteen had Spice Girl
shirts, and those over the age of fifteen vehemently refused to wear
them.  Goes to show they have a very mature audience.

This next brilliant thesis was written by a 16 year old, and really shows some of the thinking that most people should use when listening to fads like the Spice Girls.

Tonight, I read the pages of the SG letters and their responses.  I
asked myself why I shudder publicly when I hear the "Spice Girls" name,
and yet I had enough with them to seek a site like this one.
 Before I reached this site, I spent my evening defending musical
artists, writing to people, telling them to "let Fiona Apple be."  I
wrote that the "angry female" trend was okay, that anger is a human
emotion, and that it can be accepted.  I feel differently about the
Spice Girls.  The only defense that I can write in their behalf before
the following paragraphs is that they are human.  Only human.  They feel
through their skin, they see through their eyes.  They were once potty
trained. They drool and spit and are not mechanical wax figurines.  They
wake up every morning and have to face life, feel feelings, sometimes
they feel hurt, sometimes they feel happy, sometimes they feel stupid.
Perhaps what they have done is wrong, but they are simply sick products
of a sick culture that worships money, beauty, and hip, bouncy
confidence above all else.  They strove for the ideals that their Barbie
dolls taught them.  They are not cartoons, but rather flesh and blood
networks of cells and a nervous system.
 I have also spent my evening reading endless accusation followed by the
endless repetition of "I am not NOT not NOT jealous of those #*@(#**
Spice Girls!!!"   I was waiting for your writing to break into an
uncontrollable sobbing: "It's true!  It's true!  I am JEALOUS OF THE
SPICE GIRLS! sob sob sniffle sniffle."  Instead, the angry attacks
towards you continued, and you seemed to respond the same way and then
lightly brush off the jealousy accusation.  The reason jealousy appears
again and again in the writing is because it is the pulse of the human
emotion that the Spice Girls create in us, the emotion that draws us to
them, yet makes us embarrassed to admit that we like them.  Just like
Fiona Apple's anger, there is nothing wrong with our jealousy.  We have
the right to be jealous of the Spice Girls.  Jealousy is not an ugly or
wrong emotion, especially in the case of the Spice Girls.  They
represent becoming everything that the kids that love them so much dream
of being.  They are the beautiful, curvy, tiny waisted, sparkling young
women with high shoes, and confident accents.  They move to the beat of
their synthesized music in a smooth, hip way.  We fail to detect
geekiness, or even a glimmer of dork in either of them.  They look
happy.  They look beautiful.  We love them and yet they push us down.
The Spice Girls are the Homecoming Queen-for-the-fourth-time-in-a-row,
cheer-leading, rich, designer clothed, beautiful click of our society.
They symbolize what we wish deep down we could be.  In our lives, we
search to feel good about ourselves, and we search to be loved.  The
Spice Girls image is a "I feel good about myself and everyone loves me"
one.  The friendless nerds of our society hate them because the Spice
Girls are what they do not have.  Admitting jealousy is the first
healthy step.  Stating confidently that there is absolutely NOTHING
wrong with this jealousy is the second step.  Jealousy is perfectly
justified.  The Spice Girls became cheerleader queens of our society by
doing close to nothing.  They did not plow themselves out of an
orphanage in the New York ghettos.  They did not spend unsuccessful
years learning to master their appreciation of music and dance.  They
are a famous music group that has nothing to do with their music.  They
are pure image.  They are the pretty advertising packages that hold a
worthless product.  I have to admit that I once bought a bottle because
it had a beautiful design even though I didn't like the ice tea inside
of it.  The Spice Girls are the same way.  They snapped their fingers
and became the beautiful goddesses worshipped by our nation.  It is not
fair at all.  Those of us who are far from attractive, who sweat and
work, with pure virtue and good will will never become the worshipped
goddesses that the Spice Girls have become because of their tiny, tight,
and shiny image.  It is wrong that the Spice Girls are popular.  We all
should be allowed to be angry about that.
 So the Spice Girls should not be popular ... in a fair world.  So what?
Most would say "So life isn't fair," but those who say that are just
working to perpetuate its unfairness.  We can not change the Spice Girls
and all of the evil that they stand for, but we can change ourselves.
Here are three things we can do.  1. Instead of hating the Spice Girls,
try to get to know them.  I read a whole article about them in Rolling
Stone.  It included entertaining tidbits, filled with more swearing than
substance.  It was entertaining, yet it gave me no clue about who the
Spice Girls really were in their puppet shells.  If we are going to be
fascinated with them, we should find out what they believe the meaning
of life is.  Ask them how they feel about girls that feel badly about
themselves because they don't measure up to society's equivalent of
beauty.  Find out what actually runs through their minds, and through
their souls (they DO have souls) on a daily basis.  Ask them simple
questions like "Would you ever go to a big concert or awards ceremony
without a single ounce of make up, to show the world that you think you
are beautiful just the way God made you, and that you are a diva, with
just as much girl power when you are untouched by sequins and colorful
chemicals?"  "Why do you think women wear make up?"  "For themselves?"
"So they feel good about themselves, so they feel pretty?" "Why should
they have to have to feel like they depend on artificial additives to
look pretty?" "Do you think this is unfair?" "Do you think you are
perpetuating this unfairness?" etc. (I suggest you add a page of therapy
for them.  Include them making a list of their accomplishments that had
nothing to do with something manufactured.  Have them repeat "I'm nice,
I'm smart, and gosh darn it, people like me."  Have them develop the
courage to wear shoes where the soles of their feet make contact within
1 inch of the ground.  Have them repeat "I'm tall enough without my
shoes.  I'm good enough without my fame.  I'm beautiful enough without
my makeup.  Have them write a stream of consciousness song from their
hearts that includes an angry, yelling chorus, and metaphorical lyrics
that only they can understand.)
2. Start the love of the REAL GIRL.  Not spicy. Not beautiful. Not a
very good voice.  Not a very good dancer.  Not famous.  Not rich. Not
covered in sequins.  No cleavage to speak of.  Just a human being.
Think of girl power as something that lays inside your soul that has a
hard time seeping through shiny leather and foundation.  Let girl power
become all that is not fake, but rather what women as human beings are.
Nothing fake can ever be powerful, and that is what the Spice Girls are.
They are fake.  They demonstrate girl weakness.
3. Realize that beauty, fame, talent, and money are meaningless.  So
they posses these things.  So what.  Take each of the words separately.
Each of them depends on either what you were born with your ability to
advance in a manipulative, fake system.
 So, (realistically) the Spice Girls are going to continue to be famous
and worshipped.  So those working for civil justice will be frustrated.
So 27 pages in Newsweek were dedicated to Diana and 2 were dedicated to
Mother Theresa.  So there will always be a group of popular blondes at
every High School.  So what?  So the un - worshipped 99% of the
population has to fight back.  The first step is to stop worshipping the
fake and the beautiful.  Repeat after me.  "Blond has nothing to do with
virtue."  5 times.  "Wealth and fame are unimportant."  10 times.  Let
the victory over the Spice Girls be won in your mind.
 Someday, I pray that the victory over the Spice Girls will be won in
the Spice Girl's mind.  When they are forgotten by the world, when they
birth baby girls, when they begin to age.  Perhaps, after they go
through the "I'm the best!" … "No! I'm the best" fight and they split
up, they will write real music.  Folk music.  Perhaps they will Become
Senators.  I have been called a cock-eyed optimist, but I do believe in
the human capability to change.  I can see myself voting for Prime
Minister Geri, the feminist, Civil Rights advocate.  Perhaps the Spice
Girls are a blessing, a wake up call, a sharp slap to make us aware of
our superficiality.  This Web site and this letter (please oh please
post it) are the sliding shakers into our societies shift towards the
Real.  Thank you for helping the slide.


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