HERE IS THE PAGE WHERE PEOPLE
SEND IN THEIR VIEWPOINTS, FOR OR AGAINST THE PAGE AND THE SPICE GIRLS,
AND I POST THEM.
A WORD FROM ME.
Not all the opinions here I share.
This is not a place for me to respond to them, either. If I
could, I would, and generally I have. But I am not going to post
them here, because I think that it doesn't matter whether I don't agree
with personally. They should be voiced, and it is good that they
are voiced. If you do want to congratulate or argue witht he author
of any piece shown here, send me (nickcromwell@oocities.com) the message,
and I will promptly forward it to them.
The first opinion is one written
by a member of the DROSGH. Some interesting views, Professor!
Spice, as is commonly known, was first imported from the Far East to
Medieval Europe. It immediately became very popular because it was able
to completely mask any hint of putrid quality from rotten foods, such as
meat. Very similarly, the "Spice" we now see and hear cavorting on the
air waves and squandering hard-earned American dollars, is, in fact, nothing
more than an easily-accepted cover for something truly awful, and even
potantially life-threatening.
Yes, that's right. The Spice Girls aren't just awful...they're GOD awful!
Of course, many people would disagree with me. However, much like the hungry,
desperate peasants of the Middle Ages, they are too uneducated to realize
the potential harm behind their "easy way out," and since their way (and,
pathetically, only joy) of life is threatened by any editorial negative
comments from those with wisdom and experience enough to make them, they
instinctively lash out at these brilliant thinkers. Partly it is because
they are defending something they love, no matter how ridiculous, and partly
it is because they secretly recognise that the "hecklers" are much smarter
than they could ever hope to be and are jealous. Jealousy of course breeds
animosity, and those same hecklers accept the animosity with grace, sympathy,
and pity for these poor souls who compound their blatant idiocy by attempting
to answer the observations made in their interests by the hecklers.
The situation is rather reminiscent of that of the huns. Having swept
across the eastern plains, ravaging and plundering, they were finally brought
to a halt by a group of exceptionally smart monks. These monks had heard
of the raging madness and low intellect of the huns by word of mouth, and
so were prepared for the huns when they arrived. The monks enlisted the
service of a group of maids from the village and taught them to sing (actually,
more like squawk; time was of the essence) and sway provacatively whilst
clad in scanty outfits. This group was sent wandering on the roads to intercept
the huns and steer them away from the village. Unfortunately, times being
what they were and ancient mentality not being at all similar to present
mentality, the huns raped the group, then shackled them, sacked the village,
and continued onward, counting themselves exteremly lucky that they now
had a personal dancing troupe. This impressed the other huns immensely
and the other tribes began trying to do it themselves. They failed miserably.
One must question the huns' intentions. Certainly they were not at all
moral or honorable by today's standards. But were the end results so much
different from today's musical (cough-cough) groups? Indeed: quite often,
they were better.
Seriously, how could a group named "The Spice Girls" really be any good
at all? It seems painfully obvious that the need of an exciting, suggestive
title only need arise as a cover up for lack of talent in other areas.
Why else do we have I.B.M., Soft Scrub, and Red Hot Chili Peppers? Not
to mention Vanilla Ice, The Monkeys, and Lay's. All have provocative, euphemistic
titles to hide inferior product quality. But how does this relate to the
Spice Girls? One wonders, what could possibly be wrong with an innocuous
title like that? It's quite simple. "Spice" has been used in many science
fiction novels, and recently in real life, as a euphemism for drugs (Dune
and Star Wars are well-known examples), and the word "Girls" is used frequently
to suggest sexual contact under the age of consent, a very popular fantasy
among the male population (adult entertainers usually use "girls" for the
more-accurate "women," as in "topless/bottomless girls," or "girls! girls!
girls!").
But this evidence is, of course, meaningless to those who are easily
lulled (strangely enough) by the screeching and clanging of the Sirens
ca led "Spice Girls." These people are afraid of change, and they find
a modicum of assurance with this group that capitalizes on fads and survives
on imitation. Here they can find a musical (cough-cough) group with the
same tastes and nuances as they, and, in a media-centric world where changes
happen before causes even exist, they need all the reassurance they can
get that they are not, after all, blind and hopeless morons.
The Auther is a Professor of Behavorial Studies (Dept.
B.S.)
at St. Luther's Anthropological Patrons' University.
This next one is from a concerned
Spice Girl fan. Read it and think about it.
I’m completly and totally fed up. Fed up with everyone telling women
what
they must be - or suffer the consequences. “Be on my side, do what
I say, or
you’re not a REAL feminist.” It irritates me to no end.
Now, correct me if i’m wrong, but I believe the whole idea of feminism
is;
women can do anything. Isn’t that true? Isn’t that the
whole idea behind
feminism - that women can do what men can?
So, when did it turn into; women can do anything - oh, unless
they’re
housewives. That’s sexist, because she’s not living up to her
full
potential. But women can still do anything - unless she actually
likes
having sex. That’s sexist becuase men like it too. But
women can still do
anything! Except if they want to be stronger than men.
That’s reverse
sexism. But women can still do anything!..... unless they want
to be
submissive or ‘sweet’. That’s sexist, because men LIKE submissive,
sweet
women.
And then, in the midst of all of this chaos and arguing, comes
the Spice
Girls. Emma is ‘sweet’, Mel C want’s to be stronger then men,
Mel B seems to
really like sex (in some form) and what happens? People bash
them. Somehow,
it’s not suprising to me.
Oh, not all the bashers are evil (the page that’s posting this
letter
actually makes good points) - but I find it odd that most people who
claim
that they’re only against the Spice Girls music like to attack them
personally. They dig up dirt on their personal lives and spew
it out. They
twist the quotes of what the Spice Girls say, and ignore anything that
might
not make the girls look stupid. Why is that? Can someone
explain this to
me?
And, ah yes, the music. People bash it as well for being
shallow and
psuedo-feminist (there’s my original point again......). Is it
deep and
thought provoking? No. Is it pure genious? Nope.
Is it the most inspired
work of the 1900’s? Defnitly not.
All the music is, is .... fun. It’s not there to inspire
deep thoughts or
make you cry or provoke deep emotion. It’s just for fun.
It’s five women,
with a lot of energy, having fun. That’s IT. If I feel
like crying or
thinking deep thoughts I listen to NIN or Fionna Apple. But sometimes,
a
lighthearted mood comes along, and I just feel like dancing or goofing
off -
and for this, the Spice Girls are perfect.
Alas, though, many-a-basher will be laughing at me by now.
It seems as
though every other anti-spice page spends half it’s time trying to
think of
ways to make the spice fans look dumb, by making fun of grammar or
spelling
or such. Some of the letters deserve it. Several that i’ve
seen really
don’t.
This would suggest that our girls provoke the same reaction as
the comic
book VAMPS, the show La Femme Nikita, and the very real Lorena Bobbitt
(with
her equally realy knive) provoked before them.
The reactions to such things can be drastic and extreme.
To some people,
women who are both sexual and strong are terrifying. Women envy
them, and
men are afraid of them. These people, to hide their feelings,
become
bashers.
Then there are those who believe womenb should be restricted
and should be
allowed neither sexuality nor strength. These conservative types
also become
bashers.
To add on to this ... colorful ... list, are the people who think
that women
should be strong - but that there are only certain types of behavior
that is
trulystrong. Because the Spice Girls don’t fit into their narrow
view, these
people also bash.
On the other side of the spectrum, there are those who see the
highly sexual
nature of the girls - and nothing else. They worship the girls
for their
bodies only. These people become worshippers.
And finally, someplace in-between, come the people like me.
People who see
the girls fearlesness, sexuality, strength, and conviction and feel
respect.
Personally, I think any girl who can love her body, has the guts
to sing
live, lives her life to the fullest, can laugh of bashers and STILL
has fun
deserves to think she has real girl power.
If you don’t like the Spice Girls music, you have that right.
If you don’t
like the girls themselves, that’s your business. If you like
to spread your
distaste of them, the first amendment allows that.
But next time you make an update on your anti-spice page, ask
yourself why.
do you have a real point to make, or are you sinking to the level
of the
worshippers? If you are, then why claim that you are so much
better?
To cut it short: examine your own motives. You may be suprised
at what you
find.
-The author is a concerned feminist and Spice Girl fan who took
the time to write this thesis. Way to go!
An intelligent Web Surfer took
the time to write this, and I full heartely agree with most of it.
I was surfing the web, and I came across your site. I liked it
a lot,
there were some good points being made. I would also like to
say some
things that may help you get your point across better to people that
visit your site.
The good: I agree whole-heartedly that the Spice Girls
are a
calculated idea, the brain-child of a get-rich-quick scheme.
However,
the Girls got rid of that manager, probably because he wanted a cut
when
the finally began to hit big. They do not have girl power, it
is
probably just a quote they dreamed up to get some feminists to purchase
their CD. I think that if they had real girl power, they would
use it
to help mankind in some way (e.g. donate their money to a charity to
help find cures for cancer or AIDS).
Real feminists want equality, (e.g. equal pay for equal work,
no sexual
harassment), and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Also,
most feminists, assuming that they want a fair environment for
everybody, want the best for their children, such as an environment
where everybody is strong-minded, fair, honest, and are good-role
models. If you have ever read the article in Entertainment Weekly
(Harrison Ford is on the cover. Air Force One), you will know
that the
Spice Girls are "unrepetant swearers, drinkers, and smokers who talk
openly about sex." They have been spotted "running through the
halls of
the Four Seasons Hotel, swearing, screaming, and Mel B relieving herself
in a potted plant." (Both of the qoutes are from Entertainment
Weekly)
These are not the role models that feminists had in mind. The
girls
can't possibly be what feminism is about, or else everybody will laugh
at feminism.
Another point is that they don't care about the music, or anybody
that
helped them succeed. They ditched their first manager, gave their
second managers the smallest possible cut of their earnings, and when
they won their MTV award, they only bothered to dedicate their award
to
Princess Diana (which I have absolutely no problem with. If I
was up
there, I probably would have dedicated the award to her and Mother
Theresa), but what about Mom and Dad? Or the other members of
the
band. If you listen to their songs, they have an extremely talented
assortment of percussion and instrumental players. And the girls
give
them absolutely NO Credit what so ever! I feel sorry for them.
One more thing about caring for their music, music should come
from the
heart and soul. People who have real "girl power" are Jewel,
LeAnn
Rimes, and other female singers who actually CARE about what they put
in
their music.
Eventually, the Spice Girls will have to play live in front of
a big
audience to attempt to silence their critics. They did, in Instanbul,
Turkey. You'd think they play in London if they were confident
they
were going to get rave reviews. The girls aren't very good live.
I've
heard worse (Cardigans), but the difference between the quality of
their
music and they quality of their live shows is huge.
The Negative: The Spice Girls aren't ruining humanity,
they just
suck. The points that they say in their music aren't bad, but
basically
they talk about having fun and sex. (there are real problems
in the
world, and it's sad that they haven't confronted those).
The stuff tat you made from the Wannabe single does give the
impression
that you are sick perverts with no life, and that you jealous of the
girls (I know that you guys care about music in general, as do I, but
those parodies do give a negative impression)
That's all I got. At least the Spice Girls are better than
Marylin
Manson (who are making a negative difference in this world) and Hanson
(who just sucks!!!). But they are Scam Artists
P.S. A friend of mine was in England, and he said you could tell the
difference between a girl under the age of fifteen and above the age
of
fifteen, because the girls under the age of fifteen had Spice Girl
shirts, and those over the age of fifteen vehemently refused to wear
them. Goes to show they have a very mature audience.
This next brilliant
thesis was written by a 16 year old, and really shows some of the thinking
that most people should use when listening to fads like the Spice Girls.
Tonight, I read the pages of the SG letters and their
responses. I
asked myself why I shudder publicly when I hear the "Spice Girls" name,
and yet I had enough with them to seek a site like this one.
Before I reached this site, I spent my evening defending musical
artists, writing to people, telling them to "let Fiona Apple be."
I
wrote that the "angry female" trend was okay, that anger is a human
emotion, and that it can be accepted. I feel differently about
the
Spice Girls. The only defense that I can write in their behalf
before
the following paragraphs is that they are human. Only human.
They feel
through their skin, they see through their eyes. They were once
potty
trained. They drool and spit and are not mechanical wax figurines.
They
wake up every morning and have to face life, feel feelings, sometimes
they feel hurt, sometimes they feel happy, sometimes they feel stupid.
Perhaps what they have done is wrong, but they are simply sick products
of a sick culture that worships money, beauty, and hip, bouncy
confidence above all else. They strove for the ideals that their
Barbie
dolls taught them. They are not cartoons, but rather flesh and
blood
networks of cells and a nervous system.
I have also spent my evening reading endless accusation followed
by the
endless repetition of "I am not NOT not NOT jealous of those #*@(#**
Spice Girls!!!" I was waiting for your writing to break
into an
uncontrollable sobbing: "It's true! It's true! I am JEALOUS
OF THE
SPICE GIRLS! sob sob sniffle sniffle." Instead, the angry attacks
towards you continued, and you seemed to respond the same way and then
lightly brush off the jealousy accusation. The reason jealousy
appears
again and again in the writing is because it is the pulse of the human
emotion that the Spice Girls create in us, the emotion that draws us
to
them, yet makes us embarrassed to admit that we like them. Just
like
Fiona Apple's anger, there is nothing wrong with our jealousy.
We have
the right to be jealous of the Spice Girls. Jealousy is not an
ugly or
wrong emotion, especially in the case of the Spice Girls. They
represent becoming everything that the kids that love them so much
dream
of being. They are the beautiful, curvy, tiny waisted, sparkling
young
women with high shoes, and confident accents. They move to the
beat of
their synthesized music in a smooth, hip way. We fail to detect
geekiness, or even a glimmer of dork in either of them. They
look
happy. They look beautiful. We love them and yet they push
us down.
The Spice Girls are the Homecoming Queen-for-the-fourth-time-in-a-row,
cheer-leading, rich, designer clothed, beautiful click of our society.
They symbolize what we wish deep down we could be. In our lives,
we
search to feel good about ourselves, and we search to be loved.
The
Spice Girls image is a "I feel good about myself and everyone loves
me"
one. The friendless nerds of our society hate them because the
Spice
Girls are what they do not have. Admitting jealousy is the first
healthy step. Stating confidently that there is absolutely NOTHING
wrong with this jealousy is the second step. Jealousy is perfectly
justified. The Spice Girls became cheerleader queens of our society
by
doing close to nothing. They did not plow themselves out of an
orphanage in the New York ghettos. They did not spend unsuccessful
years learning to master their appreciation of music and dance.
They
are a famous music group that has nothing to do with their music.
They
are pure image. They are the pretty advertising packages that
hold a
worthless product. I have to admit that I once bought a bottle
because
it had a beautiful design even though I didn't like the ice tea inside
of it. The Spice Girls are the same way. They snapped their
fingers
and became the beautiful goddesses worshipped by our nation.
It is not
fair at all. Those of us who are far from attractive, who sweat
and
work, with pure virtue and good will will never become the worshipped
goddesses that the Spice Girls have become because of their tiny, tight,
and shiny image. It is wrong that the Spice Girls are popular.
We all
should be allowed to be angry about that.
So the Spice Girls should not be popular ... in a fair world.
So what?
Most would say "So life isn't fair," but those who say that are just
working to perpetuate its unfairness. We can not change the Spice
Girls
and all of the evil that they stand for, but we can change ourselves.
Here are three things we can do. 1. Instead of hating the Spice
Girls,
try to get to know them. I read a whole article about them in
Rolling
Stone. It included entertaining tidbits, filled with more swearing
than
substance. It was entertaining, yet it gave me no clue about
who the
Spice Girls really were in their puppet shells. If we are going
to be
fascinated with them, we should find out what they believe the meaning
of life is. Ask them how they feel about girls that feel badly
about
themselves because they don't measure up to society's equivalent of
beauty. Find out what actually runs through their minds, and
through
their souls (they DO have souls) on a daily basis. Ask them simple
questions like "Would you ever go to a big concert or awards ceremony
without a single ounce of make up, to show the world that you think
you
are beautiful just the way God made you, and that you are a diva, with
just as much girl power when you are untouched by sequins and colorful
chemicals?" "Why do you think women wear make up?" "For
themselves?"
"So they feel good about themselves, so they feel pretty?" "Why should
they have to have to feel like they depend on artificial additives
to
look pretty?" "Do you think this is unfair?" "Do you think you are
perpetuating this unfairness?" etc. (I suggest you add a page of therapy
for them. Include them making a list of their accomplishments
that had
nothing to do with something manufactured. Have them repeat "I'm
nice,
I'm smart, and gosh darn it, people like me." Have them develop
the
courage to wear shoes where the soles of their feet make contact within
1 inch of the ground. Have them repeat "I'm tall enough without
my
shoes. I'm good enough without my fame. I'm beautiful enough
without
my makeup. Have them write a stream of consciousness song from
their
hearts that includes an angry, yelling chorus, and metaphorical lyrics
that only they can understand.)
2. Start the love of the REAL GIRL. Not spicy. Not beautiful.
Not a
very good voice. Not a very good dancer. Not famous.
Not rich. Not
covered in sequins. No cleavage to speak of. Just a human
being.
Think of girl power as something that lays inside your soul that has
a
hard time seeping through shiny leather and foundation. Let girl
power
become all that is not fake, but rather what women as human beings
are.
Nothing fake can ever be powerful, and that is what the Spice Girls
are.
They are fake. They demonstrate girl weakness.
3. Realize that beauty, fame, talent, and money are meaningless.
So
they posses these things. So what. Take each of the words
separately.
Each of them depends on either what you were born with your ability
to
advance in a manipulative, fake system.
So, (realistically) the Spice Girls are going to continue to
be famous
and worshipped. So those working for civil justice will be frustrated.
So 27 pages in Newsweek were dedicated to Diana and 2 were dedicated
to
Mother Theresa. So there will always be a group of popular blondes
at
every High School. So what? So the un - worshipped 99%
of the
population has to fight back. The first step is to stop worshipping
the
fake and the beautiful. Repeat after me. "Blond has nothing
to do with
virtue." 5 times. "Wealth and fame are unimportant."
10 times. Let
the victory over the Spice Girls be won in your mind.
Someday, I pray that the victory over the Spice Girls will be
won in
the Spice Girl's mind. When they are forgotten by the world,
when they
birth baby girls, when they begin to age. Perhaps, after they
go
through the "I'm the best!" … "No! I'm the best" fight and they split
up, they will write real music. Folk music. Perhaps they
will Become
Senators. I have been called a cock-eyed optimist, but I do believe
in
the human capability to change. I can see myself voting for Prime
Minister Geri, the feminist, Civil Rights advocate. Perhaps the
Spice
Girls are a blessing, a wake up call, a sharp slap to make us aware
of
our superficiality. This Web site and this letter (please oh
please
post it) are the sliding shakers into our societies shift towards the
Real. Thank you for helping the slide.
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