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Runechild ( userinfo runechilduk) wrote,
@ 2003-05-11 13:18:00

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An open letter to the Harry Potter fandom.

I write this in light of the recent unpleasantness across the fandom, particularly with regard to a similar open letter from Ebony, which can be found here: http://www.livejournal.com/~angiej/2003/05/10/.

Firstly, I would like to make it clear that in writing this letter, I am acting on a personal level and not in my capacity as a representative of Gryffindor Tower. The following comments and opinions are my own personal beliefs, and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of other members of the Gryffindor Tower administration, or of Gryffindor Tower as a whole.

I find myself utterly astonished by the accusations in this missive, given the user’s desire to work towards the so-called "one big happy HP fandom." The first comment I would make is in regard to the infamous "pottersginny," a religious radical who attached herself to Gryffindor Tower to deliver her racist beliefs.

Ebony states that:

When individuals who work for corporations are proven to have behaved in a sexist, racist, and/or heterosexist manner, said corporation almost always attempts to make gestures of conciliation not only towards those on the inside, but outward to the offended parties/community. These gestures should occur almost immediately.

This even matters if the individual does not work for the corporation, but associates himself or herself with the corporation. In this case, the corporation should state publicly that the individual wreaking havoc in the larger community is not of them. To post this information in one's in-house publication is not enough. Not nearly enough.



The remarks which pottersginny made were done via Live Journal. Upon discovery of these inflammatory comments, the individual in question was banned from GT, and a statement immediately made that the administrative staff of Gryffindor Tower in no way condoned or supported the beliefs put forward by this individual.

Our response to this was immediate, unequivocal and was delivered via a public medium. The Gryffindor Tower LJ has an open membership, and is frequented by members of all fansites. The community LJ is not a private, in-house publication, and as our public face in the Live Journal community, it was therefore the most suitable place to site a response.

I am actually curious as to what Ebony’s definition of "public" is, and I have come to the conclusion that the only thing that would satisfy her conditions is for a representative of the Gryffindor Tower administration to make a grovelling apology on Fiction Alley Park. I have news for you dear; it’s never going to happen. If it were the case throughout the fandom that the administrative staff had to make a public apology and disassociate themselves from the individual in question on the boards of the affected site, the Fiction Alley administrators would spend more time on our boards than they do on their own. I have lost track of the number of times that I have been confronted by insulting, ignorant comments from the denizens of Fiction Alley. I certainly do not delude myself into thinking that these people are acting as official representatives of the site they frequent, and most of the time I simply ignore them.

Given the absolute ludicrousness of pottersgirl’s comments, any sane and sensible person could tell that she was in no way representative of Gryffindor Tower as a whole. As a liberal, open-minded individual with close friends and colleagues and former partners from across the racial and religious spectrum, I find Ebony’s inference that I am a bigot by association ignorant and utterly offensive.

This becomes even more important if this "unintended" offense is directed towards persons whom your corporation has made it a policy to censor, block, or otherwise harass. The offended individuals should not be OBLIGATED to visit your HQ or to poke around the social circles and country clubs that they are alternately not allowed access to, or are shunned once they're foolish enough to go there.

This does not only apply to the corporate world.

It ought to apply to the fandom's most popular sites.



And when I thought that the ignorance could not run any deeper, she manages to surpass herself. There has never been any policy at Gryffindor Tower to "censor, block or otherwise harass" any groups or individuals. Provided that they agree to follow our site rules of tolerance and respect, and refrain from ship debates or ship bashing, any members of Fiction Alley, including the administrative staff are welcome at our site, and there are a large number of GT members who also frequent Fiction Alley Park. Any thoughts that we shun, block or harass certain individuals simply because of who they associate with, exist solely in the minds of those such as Ebony who choose to believe it.

And the divisions in our fandom and in our modern world seem to boil down to a strange dichotomy.

On the one hand, there are those who deep in their hearts believe in homogeneity. Whether it's race, political beliefs, religion, personal philosophy or creed, sexual orientation, physical challenge, age, nationality, ethnicity, favorite Harry Potter ship or character, etc.--they seem to want everyone to walk in lockstep with them.



I honestly did try to believe that Ebony was not making a reference to Gryffindor Tower here, but given her previous comments I can only assume that once again her ignorance has overcome her capacity for rational thought. The members of Gryffindor Tower come together as a community to discuss our shared interest in the H/G ship. We could not care less about what the rest of the fandom chooses to believe, and attempts by our members to engage in ship debates at other sites to convert others to our beliefs are openly frowned upon by the administration. I find Ebony’s decision to refer to us in the same paragraph as racists and homophobes absolutely despicable. Furthermore, in my experience, the largest concentration of people who attempt to persuade others to follow their beliefs on this issue can be found inhabiting the boards at Fiction Alley Park. Perhaps she should look a little closer to home for her next moralistic crusade.

There are others who value diversity above all else. No, you don't have to look like them. You don't have to worship like them, believe what they believe, think like they think. You don't even have to shag the kind of people they shag! They can be able-bodied or not, beautiful or not, tall or short, teen, young adult, mature person, Democrat or Republican, American, French, Afghan, Iraqi... they don't care. As long as you are similarly open-minded, you can join the party.



If Ebony would stop for even the briefest of moments to investigate those whom she so casually insults, she would realise that this is an extremely accurate description of 99% of the people at Gryffindor Tower. The source of her irritation, I believe, is not that we choose not to join "the party," but rather that we do not join "their party."

If I had a low opinion of the representatives of Fiction Alley before, what scraps of respect I had for them have been utterly shot to pieces by these ill thought out utterances.

One love. One fandom.

Unless you are so snooty that you CHOOSE to differentiate yourself from the rest of us.



When I originally came to the Harry Potter fandom, I found Fiction Alley first. I admit, as a newbie I felt quite welcome there initially, discussing writing technique and posting my stories. As I became more confident in posting, I sought to engage in some of the more interesting debates. After writing logical, well thought-out essays on canonical trends in shipping, and how fanon has distorted our views of certain characters, I was quite surprised when, rather than engaging in meaningful debate, I was publicly flamed by those same people who I had thought were pleasant individuals. I finally came to the realisation that I was not welcome at Fiction Alley after a rational and scholarly essay on how I did not believe that certain characters could be incorporated into a slash fiction without their canon personalities being significantly altered, although stating that as a straight male it was something that I didn’t personally read. This post, rather than meriting a scholarly debate, resulted in over two dozen e-mails and private messages accusing me of being a bigoted homophobe; something which I found to be extremely insulting.

Fiction Alley is the New York City of fansites. It is a sprawling, all encompassing metropolis with thousands of members. Well, I’m a country boy at heart, so I’ll stay in my cosy little hamlet in the wilderness, forever content to not look beyond my own borders. I certainly know which sense of community I prefer.

If I "choose" to differentiate myself from the inhabitants of Fiction Alley, it is because I prefer to spend my time amongst a group of people who I feel comfortable with in an environment that is free from argument and nastiness. Despite the things that we have in common, the people at Gryffindor Tower are a varied and diverse group of individuals with differing beliefs and ideals, yet I have found good friends in all of them. The thing that confuses me about all these comments about how we should join the the rest of the fandom in a spirit of unity is:

"Why do they care?"

David.


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userinfo tzerre
2003-05-11 07:19 (link)


You've said everything I feel. Thank you.

Teresa

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userinfo kvader
2003-05-11 07:27 (link)

David, you're 100% right. GT has had people from almost every walk of life at one point or another.

There have been people from the US, Canada, the UK, Ireland, France, Israel, Austria, Australia, Panama, Singapore, Germany, New Zeland, Korea, and many other countries. There have been members that are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, Wiccan, Athiest, etc. There have been members that are Gay, Lesbian, and Transgendered.

Of course, that would mean you have to believe what any of us have to say.

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userinfo katmorning
2003-05-11 16:04 (link)

I really agree with you, David, and you made a heck of a lot more sense than Ebony did. From conversations with you I know this is truly your opinion and not just smoke disguising your true depraved inanity.

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Open Letter
userinfo ladymaidmarian
2003-05-11 18:26 (link)

David,

First off I Love You! Second BRAVO. I agree with everything you said, I only wish I could have said it half as well.

The last thing you stated is "Why do they care?", well, if you find out, please let me know.

I don't understand WHY they feel the need to contact us in any way, shape or form. What is so bad about being a small group of people who get together and share the love of one ship?

I've been part of this fandom for over 2 and 1/2 years and I've seen it grow in good and bad ways. Maybe I'm sensitive to this because I was one of the first members of QoHG and now a Queen and I've never regretted a single moment there or now on the tower.

I guess what I really don't understand is why they feel the need to attack us. And I mean US, because when they attack my friends, they attack me. It's a strange concept called loyalty, you can usually find it among those of us that don't eat our young. What is so threatening about us, that some one those out there feel the need to rid the fandom of us. We are a small group of friends that get together to read and write good stories about Harry Potter and Ginny Weasley. I didn't realize that that was a capital offence.

But what I find sad, is the people who blindly believe whatever is fed into their brains. I only wish everyone would go take a look at all the sites out there and make their own minds up. Come over to the tower, read some of our stories. We have some incredibly talented people here. Come over to our boards, and you'll find nice people willing to joke, laugh, debate, and just be themselves. We don't bite. We ask that you to be kind and be open minded. If that's too much to ask, then all I can say is don't join us. If you chose not to join our group because you've come over and not liked what you've seen, then that's fine. Don't trash talk about us if you've never even seen the Fat Lady.

I'm not going to say everyone should get along. The HP Fandom is like a very big family, and I know not all families get along. I'd rather you ignore that we even exist, than have you hurt me and my friends, people that you've never even taken the time to get to know.

Marian (rant off LOL)

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userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 12:51 (link)

The last thing you stated is "Why do they care?", well, if you find out, please let me know.

Ebony was expressing herself, eloquently, and asked the valid question of why GT didn't immediately respond to the racist statements of what appeared to be a member of their clique. All Rudeboy had to say was that they did respond immediately and that she was in no way affiliated with them. Why all public bashing of Eb? His post was spiteful and is the very reason why so many of us are happy you all stay tucked away in that sad little tower of yours.

Dionne (Wank off)

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userinfo joesther
2003-05-12 00:07 (link)

David,

You have, in all truth, surpassed yourself. This post is eloquent, well thought-out, inspiring and nicely summarized. Marian said basically what I wanted to say, so in the interest of not repeating her, let me just say "ditto."

You have my undivided support, appreciation and admiration.

Jo

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userinfo tartanboxers
2003-05-12 07:23 (link)

David just rules, but then we already knew that.

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userinfo clarabella21
2003-05-23 11:09 (link)

Yes, David shall be made King of the GT dorks now.

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userinfo sarahkjames
2003-05-23 12:41 (link)

You people have the most frightening avatars I have ever seen. Now I must go bleach my brain.

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(Anonymous)
2003-05-23 08:37 (link)

any members of Fiction Alley, including the administrative staff are welcome at our site
Does this mean that Cassie's not banned from posting on GT anymore? What about Irina?

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userinfo legomymalfoy
2003-05-23 09:06 (link)

Yes, do tell me why I wasn't allowed to register as well. Because I moderate at FictionAlley? Or was there another, more specific reason?

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Dude
userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 09:51 (link)

It's because you're an immoral perv. *loffs those immoral pervs!*

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userinfo legomymalfoy
2003-05-23 09:52 (link)

*cries* That's it! I'm immoral! Shall I wear a scarlet P on my robes now?

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Re: Dude
userinfo queerasjohn
2003-05-23 10:25 (link)

I think it had better be a shockingly queer magenta P. Because, you know, Jen, you associate with Those Homosexuals. Fortunately for everybody, there aren't any of Them in the Country. No, those Nasty Homosexuals stay in New York City with the Other Nasty Homosexuals and do their Pervy Things to innocent Characters Who Could Never Be Gay there.

...why do I feel like Parvati?

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Re: Dude
userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 11:01 (link)

You are so Pavarti... you purple fag. *sighs* I was so disappointed when I discovered H/G didn't stand for Hermione/Ginny.

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userinfo queerasjohn
2003-05-23 11:11 (link)

Harry/George all the way, man. :D

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userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 11:13 (link)

How about Harry/George/Fred...Now that really would be OBHWF!!! Poor Harry would be so tired...

*comes at the thought of it*

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userinfo runechilduk
2003-05-23 09:37 (link)

Anonymous: To answer your queries, Irina chose to leave GT of her own accord, and as long as Cassandra Claire agrees to abide by the posting rules, she's as welcome as anyone else.

LegomyMalfoy: When we check registrations, the only things that we have available to check whether someone is suitable is a name and e-mail. I processed that application myself, and I haven't got the faintest idea who you are now, let alone when I only had that information to go by. I wasn't aware of the origin of the site "t00b.net", but I was concerned enough by the use of the name "pervy" to err on the side of caution. We have had a poster by this e-mail name on our old boards during a full-scale troll attack - this, and the sexual connotations of the word were the only factors I could take into account when making my decision.

Anyone denied access has the right to query the reasons for it, and should you wish to submit your request again, I will activate your account.

David.

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userinfo irinaauthor
2003-05-23 10:17 (link)

To answer your queries, Irina chose to leave GT of her own accord

A minor correction: I chose to have my stories removed from GT of my own accord. The GT admins banned my IP so I can't look at the forums on theirs.

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Incest?
userinfo clarabella21
2003-05-23 11:08 (link)

Ron <3's Ginny 4 EVA! Evil GT trolls. Stop talking about us decent fandom folk who know how to appreciate good Weasleycest!

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Ew
userinfo sarahkjames
2003-05-23 12:39 (link)

...

I am squicked by your disgusting self-righteous attitude. And your fans *points to above posters* are quite humorous.

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Dude
userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 09:51 (link)

It's because you're an immoral perv. *loffs those immoral pervs!*

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Re: Dude
userinfo legomymalfoy
2003-05-23 09:52 (link)

*cries* That's it! I'm immoral! Shall I wear a scarlet P on my robes now?

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Re: Dude
userinfo queerasjohn
2003-05-23 10:25 (link)

I think it had better be a shockingly queer magenta P. Because, you know, Jen, you associate with Those Homosexuals. Fortunately for everybody, there aren't any of Them in the Country. No, those Nasty Homosexuals stay in New York City with the Other Nasty Homosexuals and do their Pervy Things to innocent Characters Who Could Never Be Gay there.

...why do I feel like Parvati?

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Re: Dude
userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 11:01 (link)

You are so Pavarti... you purple fag. *sighs* I was so disappointed when I discovered H/G didn't stand for Hermione/Ginny.

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Re: Dude
userinfo queerasjohn
2003-05-23 11:11 (link)

Harry/George all the way, man. :D

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Re: Dude
userinfo msscribe
2003-05-23 11:13 (link)

How about Harry/George/Fred...Now that really would be OBHWF!!! Poor Harry would be so tired...

*comes at the thought of it*

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userinfo runechilduk
2003-05-23 09:37 (link)

Anonymous: To answer your queries, Irina chose to leave GT of her own accord, and as long as Cassandra Claire agrees to abide by the posting rules, she's as welcome as anyone else.

LegomyMalfoy: When we check registrations, the only things that we have available to check whether someone is suitable is a name and e-mail. I processed that application myself, and I haven't got the faintest idea who you are now, let alone when I only had that information to go by. I wasn't aware of the origin of the site "t00b.net", but I was concerned enough by the use of the name "pervy" to err on the side of caution. We have had a poster by this e-mail name on our old boards during a full-scale troll attack - this, and the sexual connotations of the word were the only factors I could take into account when making my decision.

Anyone denied access has the right to query the reasons for it, and should you wish to submit your request again, I will activate your account.

David.

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userinfo irinaauthor
2003-05-23 10:17 (link)

To answer your queries, Irina chose to leave GT of her own accord

A minor correction: I chose to have my stories removed from GT of my own accord. The GT admins banned my IP so I can't look at the forums on theirs.

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Incest?
userinfo clarabella21
2003-05-23 11:08 (link)

Ron <3's Ginny 4 EVA! Evil GT trolls. Stop talking about us decent fandom folk who know how to appreciate good Weasleycest!

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Ew
userinfo sarahkjames
2003-05-23 12:39 (link)

...

I am squicked by your disgusting self-righteous attitude. And your fans *points to above posters* are quite humorous.

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