The
last tour performance for Dimmu Borgir was here in Oslo early in May and we
don't think the Norwegian people present at that event has forgotten it already
because it was a hell of a show! It's not so long time since the last time you
could read a Dimmu Borgir interview in this magazine but a lot of changes has
actually happened since last time. Nagash, now known as Lex Icon, has left the
band and the man with the great voice Simen Hestnæs has taken his place as
a session member on bass. But what really is the big change in the line up is
the change of drummer. Tjodalv left the band because of his family and to much
touring, and in came Cradle Of Filth drummer Nicholas Barker. Rumours said that
he was not pleased with the situation in COF and when people here in Norway saw
him at different places here in Oslo together with the guys from Dimmu Borgir it
was no doubt that something was going on. Well, just before the European tour
the band confirmed the rumours and right after the Rockefeller gig here in Oslo
we got in touch with Nick to talk a little about the new situation. And first of
all we talked about the Oslo gig...
- I felt in fact a
bit uncomfortable in front of this gig because Oslo is after all Dimmu Borgir's
hometown and I felt many critical eyes from the people present at the consert.
It's obvious that they wanted to evaluate my drumming skills and compare it to
Tjodalv. And unfortunately went a few things wrong this night so I'm not hundred
percent satisfied with this gig.
What impressions do you have after your debut tour with Dimmu Borgir?
- I think the hole tour turned out to be extraordinary! The guys in the band
are very nice people to live with and I can't remember being on a Cradle Of
Filth tour as successful as this. I'm in fact much more comfortable being on
tour with the guys in Dimmu Borgir than I was with Cradle Of Filth and that's
partly because of their differences in behaviour and attitude.
Yes, I think a lot of people wonder why you left Cradle Of Filth...
- I was simply enough not satisfied with certain elements in the band, so
then I figured out that the only right thing to do was to leave the band. I was
very often disagree with all the decisions that were settled and I felt that
after six years of contributing to this band it was about time to look for new
challenges.
So it was more a social matter than the musical part?
- Yes, you can say that. It was more about the bands politic and estetic
madder I felt I was no longer a part of, says Nicholas and sounds in fact
quite unhappy with how things was in his old band. There has been some
rumours lately that Mr. Barker in front of his dismissal was the direct
reason for the fact that Dani Filth ended up in a hospital with some damish
in his face, and Nicholas speaks...
- Yeah, we had a little disagreement and ended up in a fight and
unfortunately Dani ended up in a hospital. But this happened a quite long time
ago and had nothing to do with my dismissal from Cradle Of Filth. This was
actually based on some fucking bullshit but it unfortunately turned out quite
dramatically, confirms Nicholas and define precisely that they are
friends again these days. Many of you probably know that Dimmu Borgir was
supporting Cradle Of Filth on the "Gods Of Darkness" tour in Germany
couple of years ago, and this is the main reason why Nicholas Barker perform his
virtuosity in a Norwegian band these days...
- I got very good contact with the guys in Dimmu Borgir on the "Gods Of
Darkness" tour and after that we often met on different festivals and so
on. So when the rumours of my Cradle Of Filth dismissal reached Norway things
just happened...
Both Cradle Of Filth and Dimmu Borgir plays music which contains much
symphony and horror elements and many people compares the two bands. You should
now have the best condition to evaluate wheter these bands are similar or not.
What is the biggest differences in playing drums in Dimmu Borgir compared to
Cradle Of Filth?
- Many people compares these two bands, as you say, but I mean that this is
partly wrong because the music style is quite different. The biggest different
for me is the frequent use of double bass drums in Dimmu Borgir. But this is
just a interesting challenge for me and it's nothing I can't handle. I have used
the same technic for about six years now so I think it's a good thing for me to
develop my skills. But it's not an enormous change for me though, it's still
music in the same genre. It's still black metal...
What was your first impression of the new album?
- The first time i heard "SBD" was in January and I thought it was
fantastic right away! It was kind of special to hear the development from the
last album. "Spiritual..." is much more extreme, at lot faster and I
really like the direction the band has headed. If I must mention one particular
favourite song it must be "Phantasmagoria". That song is very fast and
very challenging to play. But I must say that every Dimmu Borgir song contains a
lot of quality and it's really enjoyable to perform such a brilliant song
material in a live situation, says a very enthusiastic Nicholas and I ask him
if he is thinking of moving to our beautiful country permanently, and he really
agrees that Norway is beautiful but says that it's cheaper for him at this
moment to fly between Oslo and London occasionally. Well, it is some differences
in the lyrics in Cradle Of Filth compared to Dimmu Borgir. While COF has this
vampiric elements, Dimmu Borgir can be considered more as a satanic band...
- I have no problem with the lyrics in Dimmu Borgir. I loved the vampiric
consept of Cradle Of Filth and I have always been facinated by old
vampire movies, but I'm in fact more into the lyrics in Dimmu Borgir, and that I
think is because of the fact that the lyrics in Cradle Of Filth are very...Dani,
says Nicholas and suply that he these days works on a project with James
Murphy and his band Disincarnate. He also have a project going on with Peter Tågtgren
and a couple of guys from Napalm Death. Then we know that as well..