SEVENTH GENERATION

120. Charles VOGEL* was born about 1770 in Germany. He died in Markham, Ontario ?. From the files of Elinore Copeland

I believe this Charles Vogel to be the father of William who came with the William Berczy settlers. In 1794 William "Moll" Berczy, a German entrepreneur, arranged to bring approximately two hundred and twenty settlers, 60 German families to America to take up land in the Genesse Valley, New Yourk State.These settlers sailed from Hamburg/Altona Harbour, Germany in May 1792 on two ships; the "Catharina" and the "Heinrich and Georg". The Catharina arrived in Philadelphia on July 28, 1792 and the Heinrich and Georg followed about six weeks later but landed in New York. The deal in New York state was not successful so 60 families followed Berczy to Upper Canada in the summer of 1794. Berczy negotiated with Governor John Graves Simcoe for land north of York- this area became known as Markham Township- in exchange for help in opening Yonge St. to Bond Lake and the development of farming and industry in the area. The settlers arrived in Markham in the late fall of 1793.

Most of this information is from the Markham Berszy Settlers Association. Celebrating the bicentennial - Markham - 1994

In 1999, it is still unknown to me where Charles or his wife are buried but could be in Markham Township. I have several questions still unanswered. What about the daughters of Charles? Did they grow up and marry and to whom? Where did they go? Did Charles H Vogel as well as Melchior Quantz fight in America with the Hessian Troops for Britain during the War of Independence? Perhapss in the Preussian Army? Was Chales H. Vogel originally from Hamburg, Germany, or where and when? From information from Bob Shank, he in his research understood that Charles was a main recruiter for Berczy in Hamburg. There is a Charles Vogel listed in the book - "Register of German Military Men"

Who remained in Canada after the American Revolution by Johannes Melmut Mers. Charles Vogel drew a lot in Nov. 1794 and was patented 1804. Third Concession, Lot 16, Markham Twp. This family is recorded in the 1861 Census.--Lot 16, 3rd Concession Markham Twp. York County, Ont. (drawn 1794 listed as of 1804) Charles Vogel. wife Anna 28. sons Philip age 7, William 5, Elizabeth 10, Anna 4, Polly 3/4...see noes. U C Land Pet. Index see Notes also Re; Charles Vogel - U C Land Book E 1802-04 311 Charles Henry Vogel - U C Land Book E 1802 - 04 313,315 Charles Vogel - U C Land Book E 1802-04 407.

Beaches Library - book - Illustrated Historical Atlas of the County of York - 1878 from the Domesday Book - received patents of Land at an early date: Markham Twp. - 3re Concession Chas. H. Vogel, 1804. Vogal, Christian (Charles) from Genesee Quaker Colony from Pennsylvania pages 46, 50, 132 Family 87 signature - 201 page 189 - settlers 1804 3rd Conc. Lot 16 - Charles Vogal (Drawn 1794) wife Anna 28, son Philip 7, William 5, Elizabeth 10, Anna 4, Polly 3/4.

See also book - The Counties of Ontario by Emily P Weaver (Beaverton Pub. Lib. pages 56 & 57 - Description of settlers.

Also book - The Settlement of Upper Canada by Wm. Canniff, pages 621 & 622, Re: Palatines - German, Irishmen, Originally came from the Palatinate of the Thine. Were Protestants. etc etc

My (Elinore) collection : Book - The Yonge St. Story by F R Beschem pub. 1996 page 44 lists Charles Vogel as being on the 4th Con Lot 7. (I believe he traded this lot for the 3rd Con Lot 16.)

The Land Grant was dated 27 Jul 1804 from the Crown for Lot 16, Conc. 3, Markham Twp. York County, Ontario. I have a photocoy of the Abstract Index of Deeds for Lot 16, Conc 3, Markham Twp. which was obtained at the Markham Museum. Instrument #21167 Com Patent 27 July 1804, from the Crown to the grantee, Charles H Vogel, 200 acres.

The following was copied from information in my Mother's (Catherine Little) Collection of information when she and my Dad (Robert Fogal) organized several Fogal Family Reunions, as well as another Fogal who did live in Brantford, Ont. and organized the very first reunion. Copied from paper

Births of J P Fogal - Wm. Fogal and Sisters Archibald Britton was born the 12th of the 5th mo. 1784 Ann Britton was born the 12 of the 5th mo 1778 Elizabeth Britton was born the 3rd of the 8th mo 1793 Philip Fogal was born 31 of the 7th mo 1795 William Fogal was born 17 of the 6th mo 1797 Ann Cooper was born the 20th of the 3rd mo 1799. Extracted from the Rocords of Archibald Britton in the Township of Manlius, State of New York 5th mo 12th day 1822.

My question is what connection to the Britton family? Was two of the sisters, of Philip and William, Elizabeth and Ann married to Brittons and who was Archibald Britton and also who was Ann Cooper? Was the wife of Charles Vagel namely Anna b c 1776, wah she a Britton or connected to the Cooper family? My search continues.

Booklet - Markham Berczy Settlers. page 10 Berczy looked for settlers for a development in the wilds of upper New York State. and offered free transportation and free lands. He tried to obtain people with the necessary skills to create a self-sustaining community. Lutheran pastor, doctor, teacher, miller, baker, tanner, carpenter and/or other trade-men. Good farmers and women. page 11. Three ships, The Catharina, Heinrick and Georg. Emigrants loaded on the first two- The Catharina - 134 passengers. Left - 2nd May 1792. The Heinrick and Georg with Pastor Liebich in charge about 6 weeks later. July 28, 1792 the Catharina arrived at Philadelphia, USA page 12 - Dec 5, 1792, they were at Painted Post, NY. Later the passengers of the Heinrick and Georg joined Berczy and settlers at Painted Post having been at Penn Yan a community of Quakers some 35 miles north of Painted Post. page 14 - Aided by a New York Association calleed "The German Co.", Berczy led some 60 heads of families from Williamsburg in the Genesee area to Niagara and eventually on to Markham Twp. Governor Simcoe was offering free land. Berczy originally negotiated for land north of Lake Erie, however, when Simcoe's plans were changed and the new capital was to be York (Toronto) instead of Niagara, Berczy was asked to trade for a similar site north of Toronto. At the Markham Berczy Settlers Assoc. - Annual Meeting - Nov 18, 1998 we were given a translated copy of the leasing contract that was made between each person and Berczy and the Genesee Association.







He was married to Anna VOGAL ?*. These notes are from Annie Fogal

Charles H. Vogel belonged in the clan and is this where Philip and John perhaps first arrived and stayed in Ontario?
Apparently, Philip and Clarinda moved on the Whitchurch Twp.-- to Pine Orchard (near Newmarket) and they resided there until their deaths. John or William John whichever you want to call him, moved on to Mulmer Twp., Ontario. (It is east of Shelburne in Horning's Mills - Honeywood area). When did he move there?
John married Elizabeth Jane Evans who was born in Wales, but the question is, did they marry in the United States before coming to Canada, or in Markham or in the Mulmer Twp. area? Also in the Lockhart Bible also listed is the parents of Elizabeth Jane, their death in 1808 and 1811. Did they also live in the Mulmer district or were they back in Pennsylvania or another area of Ontario or across the ocean in Wales?
It appears that both brothers proceeded to raise a family of 9. The older of the John Fogal who was John William moved to Lake Simcoe - to the North Point of Thorah Island. We are not sure in what year this took place but on the map in the Historical Atlas of Ontario ounty of - 1877 - Thorah Twp. and Thorah Island it shows - J. Vogel. In 1853 John william married Nancy Jewel and they in turn raised a family of 10. They were hard workers and about ---- the whole family decided to go to Manitoulin Island and perhaps make their forturn in lunbering and farming. Well things did not quite work out that way, Nancy Fogal became very ill and died and then her husband John William reutrned with the youngest son Robert to Thorah Island to live out the rest of his days.
It is interesting to speculate as to how this group went to Manitoulin Island. Did they load wagons and proceed by foot to North Bay and then across to Little urrent? Did they proceed with their wagons via Midland and then by boat or did they go via Collingwood and then by boat? No matter how they went, in those days I am sure it must have been quite a journey.
More question? Who were the parents of Nancy Jewel, married to John Fogal of Thorah Island. Did she live on the Island (according to the Thorah Island map from the Ontario County Atlans of 1877 - Thorah Twp. on the north end of the island it shows on one parcel -- A & P Jewels). Was this her family and who is Hector Jewel, (brother?)
It is known that she had a sister - Clorinda who was married to Alexander Sandy Sedore and they lived at Jackson"s Point, Ontario
At one point in their lives, Sandy and Clorinda along with their family got the urge like a lot of others, to seek their fortune in the West, Red River Area. They went by horse and wagon and homesteaded and lived in a sod shanty. It is not known how long they were west, but the Indians burnt them out and that was enough for them. They returned to Ontario to Jackson's Point. One of the sons, Roy, lived at Swan River, Manitoba. It is not known whether he remained in the west or whether he returned at a later date.
Clorinda and Sandy's son Aubrey Sedore and his wife, stood up with Robert Fogal and Catherine Little when they were married at Sutton. The Sedore's were great friends with the Fogal family and a son, David used to take great delight in telling about sailing his boat from Jackson's Point to Thorah Island, and the many escapades they had and the practical jakes they pulled on each other. On occassion he used to babysit the children of Robert and Cathrine, and that a good time was had by all.
Many years later, after one of the Fogal reunions at Orillia, we all had the pleasure of really razzing David. Apparently on his way over to Beaverton from Jachson's Point, he received a ticket for speeding through Port Bolster, not Port Bolster probably had a population of about 100 at the time and David I think was nearly 80 years old. (SPEEDING)

These are notes I received from Elinore Copeland.
I believe this Charles Vogel to be the father of William who came with the William Berczy settlers. In 1794 William "Moll" Berczy, a German entrepreneur, arranged to bring approximately two hundred and twenty settlers, 60 German families, to America to take up land in the Genesee Valley, New York State. These settlers sailed from Hamburg/Altona Harbour, Bermany in May 1792 on two ships; the Catharina, the Heinrich and Georg. The Catharina arrived in Philadelphia on July 28, 1792 and the Heinrich and Georg followed about six weeks later but landed in New York. The deal in New York state was not successful so 60 families followed Berczy to Upper Canada in the summer of 1794. Berczy negotiated with Governor John Graves Simcoe for land north of York - this area became known as Markham Township-in exchange for help in opening Yonge Street to Bond Lake and the development of farming and industry in the area. The settlers arrived in Markham in the late fall of 1793.

Most of this information is from the Markham Berczy Settlers Association. Celebrating the bicentennial - Markham 1994.

In 1999 it is still unknown to me where Charles or his wife are buried but could be in Markham Township. I have several questions still unanswered. What about the daughters of Charles? Did they grow up and marry and to whom? There did they go? Did Charles H Vogel as well as Melchior Quantz fight in America with the Hessian Troops for Britain during the War of Independence: Perhaps in the Preussian Army? Was Charles H. Vogel originally from Hamburg, Germany or where and When? From information from Bob Shank, he in his research understood that Charles was a main recruiter for Berczy in Hamburg. There is a Charles Vogel listed in the book "Register of German Military Men"

Who remained in Canada after the American Revolution by Johannes Melmut Mers. Charles Vogel drew a lot in Nov. 1794 and was patented 1804. Third Concession, Lot 16, 3rd Concession Markham Township, York County, Ont. (drawn 1794 liste as of 1804) Charles Vogel, wife Anna 28, sons Philip age 7, William 5, Elizabeth 10, Anna 4, Polly 3/4 ... See notes U.C. Land Pet. Index. see notes also re; Charles Vogel - U.C. Land Book E 1802 - 04 311 Charles Henry Vogel - U.C. Land Book E 1802-04 313,315 Charles Vogel - U.C. Land Book E 1802-04 407

Beaches Library book Illustrated Historical Atlas of the County of York - 1878 from the Domesday book, received patents of Land as an early date: Markham Twp. - 3rd Concession Chas, H. Vogel, 1804. Book - My personal collection - Infant Toronto by Andre Wm. Berczy Vogal, Christian (Charles) from Genesse Quaker Colony from Pennsylvania pages 46, 50, 465 family 187 Signature -201 page 189 settlers 1804 3rd Conc. Lot 16- Charles Vogal (Drawn 1794) wife Anna 28, Son Philip 7 William 5, Elizabeth 10, Anna 4, Polly 3/4.

See also book The Counties of Ontario by Emily P. Weaver (Beaverton Pub. Lib. pages 56 and 57--Description of settlers.

Also Book - The Settlement of Upper Canada by Wm. Canniff pages 621 & 622 Re: Palatines - German Irishmen, Originally came from the Palatinate of the Thine. Were Protestants. Etc.etc.

My collection :Book - The Yonge Street Story by F.R. Beschem pub 1996 page 44, lists Charles Vogel as being on the 4th Con. Lot 7 (I believe he traded this lot for the 3rd Con. Lot 16.)

The Land Grant was dated 27, July 1804 from the Crown for Lot 16 Conc. 3 Markham twp. York County, Ontario I have a photocopy of the Abstract Index of Deeds for Lot 16, Conc. 3, Markham twp. which was obtained at the Markham Museum. Instrument #21167 Com Patent 27 July 1804, from the Crown to the grantee, Charles H. Vogel, 200 acres.

The following was copied from information in my Mother's (Annie Fogal) Collection of information when she and my Dad (Karl Emes) organized several Fogal Family Reunions, as well as another Fogal who did live in Brantford, Ontario and organized the very first reunion. Copied from paper:

Births of J.P. Fogal - Wm. Fogal and Sisters Archibald Britton was born the 12th of the 5th mo. 1784 Ann Britton was born the 12 of the 5th mo 1778, Elizabeth Britton was born the 3rd of the 8th mo 1793, Philip Fogal was born 31 of the 7th mo 1795, William Fogal was born 17 of the 6th mo 1797 Ann Cooper was born the 20th of the 3rd mo 1799 Extracted from the Records of Archibald Britton the Township of Manlius, State of New York 5th mo. 12th day 1822.

My question is what connection to the Britton Family? Was two of the sisters, of Philip and William, Elizabeth and Ann married to Brittons and who was Archibald Britton and also who was Ann Cooper? Was the wife of Charles Vogel namely Anna b.c. 1776 was she a Britton or connected to the Cooper Family? My search continues.

Booklet - Markham Berczy Settlers. page 10 Berczy looked fro settlers for a development in the wilds of upper New York State and offered free transportation and free lands. He tried to obtain people with the nexessary skills to create a self-sustaining community. Lutheran pastor, doctor, teacher, miller, baker, tanner, carpenter and or other trade-men. Tood farmers and women. page 11 Three ships, the Catharina, Heinrick and Georg. Emigrants loaded on the first two, The Catharina - 134 passengers. left 2nd of May 1792. The Heinrick and Giorg with Pastor Liebich in charge about 6 weeks later. July 28, 1792 the Catharine arrived at Philadelphia, USA page 12 of the Heinrick and Georg joined Berczy and settlers at Painted Post having been at Penn Yan a community of Quakers some 35 miles north of Painted Post. page 14, Aided by a New York Association called "The German Co.", Berczy led some 60 heads of families from Williamsburg in the Genesee area to Niagara and eventually on to Markham Twp. Governor Simcoe was offering free land. Berczy originally negotiated for land north of Lake Erie, however, when Simcoe's plans were changed and the new capital was to be York(Toronto) instead of Niagara, Berczy was asked to trade for a similar site north of Toronto. At the Markham Berczy Settlers Assoc. Annual Meeting Nov. 18, 1998 we were given a translated copy of the leasing contract that was made between each person and Berczy and the Genesee Association.

121. Anna VOGAL ?* was born in 1776 in Germany. This information passed on to me from Elinore Copeland.

There was a paper passed on to me stating the following, Information reported and extracted from the Records of Archibald Britton, in the Twp. of Manlius, State of NY 12 May 1822. Births of JP Fogal - Wm. Fogal and Sisters Archibald Britton b. 12 May 1784 Ann Britton b. 12 of May 1778 Elizabeth Britton b. 3 Aug 1793 Philip Fogal b 31 July 1795 William Fogal b. 17 June 1797 Ann Cooper b 20 Mar. 1799

Is there a possibility that Ann Vagal before married was a Britton? This information was passed on from the late Myrtle Kennedy.

In this year of 1999 it is unknown to me the dates of death for Ann or her husband Charles Vogel and unknown where they are buried but could be in Markham Township.
Children were:

child i. Elizabeth FOGAL was born in 1794.
child ii. Philip FOGAL was born on 31 Jul 1795 in Markham, Ontario. He died on 30 Jun 1870 in Whitchurch Twp., Pine Orchard, Ontario. He was buried in Plot 020, 12, Pine Orchard, Ontario.(9) From the pages of Elinore Copeland:

Phillip and his parents and brother Wm John and the rest of the family, according to Mrs. Myrtle Kennedy came from Germany or Holland. First in Pennsylvanie where he married Clarinda Storey and then came with a group of U E L to the Markham area. I do not know if this is correct at this time in 1999 or if Phillip and Clarinda were married in Upper New York State. I believe that Phillip with his parents were part of the William Berczy settlers and have some documentation. Phillip was not satisfied on the farm on Conc 3, Lot 16, Markham Twp or perhaps it was necessary to sell upon the death of his father Charles. On the abstract index of deeds, it shows that Charles H. Vogel obtained his Patent 27th. Jul 1804 and he on 14th Sep 1804 and registered in 26 Apr 1805 sold the W1/2 100 acres, no consideration listed, to William Willcocks. In 29 Jan 1816, John Philip Vogel sold to John Large (who had purchased the W1/2 100 acres in 1819 and registered in 1830.) the E1/2 100 acres for L200.0.0 after it would appear some financial difficulties. Phillip moved on to the Newmarket area and received farm land from the Government and lived and died there and is buried in Pine Orchard Cemetery, plot #020.12. There is no listing for his wife Clarinda. Either no stone or perhaps she was buried at the Yonge St. Quaker Cemetery? At the time of his burial he is listed as Foga

His brother William John went on to Mulmer Township, near Horning Mills, Ontario. (Simcoe and/or Grey Township. Phillip and Clarinda lived Lot 29, Conc. 5- 1846-7- Home District. (Home Dist was later changed to Whitchurch Twp. York County, Ontario. Understood at the time they were married, Clarinda was a Quakeress school teacher. Pine Orchard - see paper re Historical plaque to tell story of Pine Orchard Friends. Quaker settlement. Plaque 26 Oct. 1973. The new building was completed by 1830 was used by the Hicksite faction while the other Quakers continued to use the original Meeting House. The early bulding was used until 1944 when it was moved to Aurora. The new Meeting House, completed in 1830 was sold to the Pine Orchard Union Church in 1945 and is still in use today. The original burying grround lies nearby. The Pine Orchard Union Church is a union of the three differing froms of the Society of Friends in Canada.


child60 iii. William John FOGAL*.
child iv. Anna FOGAL was born in 1800.
child v. Polly FOGAL was born in 1804.

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