J: Right, yes, I was just about to say it.
H: So, you need to answer this very important question!
J: Of course I cannot say I am a philanderer!
H: I don’t care if you are a philanderer or not.
J: Right, because you know, during middle school, for example, I love playing basketball. For sure there will be many die-hard basketball playmates. Then together with these people, you would… everyone would often play together.
H: I want to know how you would refuse them.
J: How I would refuse?
H: I heard of a man, he was also tall, masculine. Men are always attracted to him… he always refuses them forcefully, and is very fierce in telling the other person “It is absolutely out of the question!” He said if you don’t refuse them like this, they will always feel as if there are still remnants of a little hope. “Next time, I will try again, he is just shy, he needs to be led into it. Xiao Bai Tu needs to be led…” ( Jerry laughs)

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H: … He said if you don’t refuse them like this, they will always feel as if there are still remnants of a little hope. “Next time, I will try again, he is just shy, he needs to be led into it. Xiao Bai Tu need to be led…” (Jerry laughs) How do you refuse them? Because everybody thinks… actually, I feel the question is… how does a man refuse another man… I really would like to know…
J: None. I will very emphatically  say that I am not…
H: Just tell him…
J: Because, I’m not means I’m not. There is no way you can change that truth. Right…right.  Moreover, ever since I was small, my mother always gave me the idea that I should like women. (Jerry laughs again.)  I was never…
H: Since the beginning, you were just not moved that way.
J: Right.
H: Because some reports say you have a very good friend, both of you often ride the motorbike…
J: It’s like what I just said. Before, we liked to play basketball, then exercise, surely you have your so called basketball group, where you have similar habits, like die-hards… just like... I believe if you have a die hard group, you take a bath together, whatever… you won’t feel it’s strange because even during military obligation, we were all together. You know, some people will intentionally use these unusual scenarios and project it onto other people. I, personally don’t consider it like that.
H: So, actually, this is all still ok. Encountering those for example, those who spread rumors. Although I have really seen when your face turned foul in a previous program.
J: You were saying similar to which instance?
H: That one with TAO ZI.
J: The one with TAO ZI. Right.
H: I thought then, how come a person like you has no EQ.
J: Right, I also felt like an idiot. Everyone actually got accustomed to using the word “foul” to describe my face (grins)
H: Actually, at that time, they should have let you say a few more words.
J: Let’s put it this way, if I have any ideas about this person or if I have something to say and you would not let me say it, I would feel very sad. I would feel… you know… even though you are not nice, I would still like to say them to you… to let you know.  I only have good intentions. I don’t like those kinds of feelings where… if I dislike a person, I have to keep it to myself, and then in front of this person, I still have to pretend to be nice, whatever...
H: But do you or do you not know that sometimes what you say may not necessarily be right?
J: I’m not insisting I am always right. It’s only that at least I get to express my thoughts and let others know at least what I think.
H: What happened that time… you felt.....
J: That was because at that time, I kept wanting to explain a few things to TAO ZI. But, maybe those people outside again were saying other things… causing trouble until finally , we both misunderstood each other. Possibly I thought she said something while she thought I might have done something. That’s why I don’t like this kind of feeling. I really don’t like it. Because there is no way I can do it…if I really dislike you now,  or if I am clearly prejudiced against you… then I would still come to your program or…
H: You can’t do it.
J: …to be like this with you. How do I say it… it’s being a person. I feel, I still prefer my being a little more direct. Of course, this so-called bluntness does not mean speaking out my thoughts when not agreeable with something. I would say I will communicate with others. I don’t want others to think…
H: How would you communicate?
J: Right now, the means of communication of course would mean learning “to be good” (he smiles knowingly while she laughs out loud.), it’s to circumvent,  don’t be…
H: ( She laughingly says) So after all that’s been said, the way to do it is just to circumvent! Actually, it’s just circumventing!