"SHOULD WOMEN PREACH IN THE CHURCH"
“Deborah Was A Judge & A Prophetess”
Copyright C 1998 by J.A.Mcbean.
Library of Congress
Washington.D.C.20559
W omen are capable of doing any thing and every thing that men can do. There are some things that women can do better than men. Women make better spies, better assassin, and sometime better missionary. Women missionaries open up Africa, they were able to go into places where no white men could dare venture.
Why is it that women can bear our children, cook their husband’s food, wash his clothing and cash his check at the bank, but cannot sit on our pulpit. The husband suck the women lips and sometime suck their toes, and even though all that has happen she is bar from our pulpits, and are not suppose to worship with us. Why all the double standard, and what is it that these men are afraid of?
WHAT DOES THIS WOMAN BELIEVE?
Before any Church ordained women to preach to men, they should first contact the woman’s husband if she had one, to find out her home conduct. If she is walking in obedience to her husband accordingly to the scriptures. Some people just ordained women and put them in the pulpit only because they can scream loud and jump around, while ignoring how rebellious they are in the home. Does the woman believe in the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary's cross? Does she believe that Jesus actually came and died for our sins? Does she believe in the delegated authority of her husband? Can she hold her marriage together, and can she help other women to hold their marriage together? is she the town's gossip? Does she believe in the following scriptures?
Ephes. 5:23 (KJV) For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
1 Peter 3:1 (KJV) Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1 Peter 3:1 (Living) Wives, fit in with your husbands' plans; for then if they refuse to listen when you talk to them about the Lord, they will be won by your respectful, pure behavior. Your godly lives will speak to them better than any words.
DOES SHE BELIEVE THESE SCRIPTURES OR DOES SHE POINT OUT THE OTHERS THAT DEAL WITH THE MEN, TRYING TO COUNTER THESE?
You cannot make women preach to men who do not believe in men’s authority. I believe in women preachers, while I do not believe that a let down woman with a grudge, should be allowed in the pulpit, because she is not heal.
1 Tim. 3:11 (KJV) Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 1 Tim. 3:11 (Living) Their wives must be thoughtful, not heavy drinkers, not gossipers, but faithful in everything they do.
IF THE WOMAN DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE ABOVE VERSES THE FOLLOWING VERSES APPLIED TO HER.
1 Tim. 2:11 (KJV) Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 1 Tim. 2:12 (KJV) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Tim. 2:13 (KJV) For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 1 Tim. 2:14 (KJV) And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Cor. 14:33 (KJV) For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 1 Cor. 14:34 (KJV) Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Cor. 14:35 (KJV) And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 1 Cor. 14:37 (KJV) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
THE BOARD OF ELDERS.
Why the apostle Paul instruct the Corinthians Church not to permit women preachers, at the same time the apostle John seem to salute women preachers? In this article I will clear up the miss understanding once and for all. The New Testament books were compiled about one hundred years after the death of the apostles. We can therefore, assume that the Ephesians Church only has the book of Ephesians plus the Old Testament. The Corinthian Church only has the book of first and second Corinthians plus the Old Testament. It was not like us today who have all the books in one, we call “The Bible” Each books was written and sent to a particular Church tapered for them accordingly to the problem that was existed in that Church. Most of the Church has the same problem, and the same remedy was sent, you could see the repetitions in the Pauline Epistles.
The problem of women preaching in the Church was not a preaching problem but taking authority over the men.
If the Church has qualified men who want to serve as pastor, or bishop, the positions must be given to them. If no man want the post are no man is available, why can’t a woman who is available and have same gift and calling occupy that post? If the Bible teaches two things differently, it is best to bring all the verses together, examine them, and see the reason.
There are some Churches that do not believe that women should go around the pulpit and preach the gospel, and they base their beliefs on these two texts. 1 Cor 14:34-35. 1 Tim 2:11-14. But a close examinations of the texts along with some other Old Testament verses and other verses in the New Testament shows that we could have gotten the wrong idea, and that these verses are not saying that women should never preach the gospel, but this was only an isolated cases of a Church that gone bad and the Apostle Paul have to take drastic measures to put down the problem, and he did not intend this remedy for all the Churches in that region.
THE BOARD OF ELDERS.
The local Church supposes to have a board of elders who act as government of the Church.
1 Cor. 12:28 (KJV) And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
As long as the Church has a board of elders working in the background as government of the Church, women are men can act as pastor. Because whosoever is in the pulpit still had to answer to board of elders, you have to be in line with scriptures are leave. The word the Apostle use were “Usurp Authority over the men” is talking about women taking complete authority over men.
I must admit that women in authority over men can turn out to be a disaster, especially if she has suffered a letdown, and a broken hearted. All that hurt will came out in her preaching. From the pulpit, she can wreck every marriage, and drive away every husbands. The worst thing about women leaders, they tend to go according to feeling. Just like the apostle says” Adam was not deceived but the woman” At the same time we cannot rule out the fact, there are ministries in the Church for women.
WOMEN IN MINISTRY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.
Micah 6:4 (KJV) For I brought thee up out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of servants; and I sent before thee Moses, Aaron, and Miriam. Miriam mentioned, as being the prophetess who led the female chorus who sang the song of Moses (Exodus 15:20). God sent Moses to give the best laws; Aaron to pray for the people; Miriam as an example to the women of Israel.
[Daughters shall prophesy] Women are not excluded from spiritual gifts and powers (Acts 2:16-21; Acts 1:14; Acts 2:1-21; Acts 21:9; 2 Cor. 11-14). See note, § Acts 21:9.
Acts 2:17 (KJV) And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
WOMEN WERE THE FIRST TO TELL THAT THE LORD WAS RAISED.
Matthew 28:5-10 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. [6] He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. [7] And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. [8] And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. [9] And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. [10] Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.
PROBLEM EXISTED IN THIS PARTICULAR CHURCH.
1 Tim. 2:12 (KJV) But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
a[usurp authority] Greek: authenteo (, to have power over. Only here. Women should not dictate to men, but exercise their rights to teach, prophesy (or preach), pray, and do other things under the authority of men (note, §1 Cor. 14:34-35).
1 Cor. 14:34-35 (KJV) Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Cor. 14:35 (KJV) And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
TO MAKE A DOCTRINE WE NEED TWO ARE THREE WITNESSES, ONE FROM THE OLD AND AT LEAST ONE FROM THE NEW SAYING THE SAME THING.
Not necessarily word for word, but giving the same message. Alternatively, talking about the same subjects.
1 Cor. 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1 Tim. 2:11-14 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. [12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. [13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve. [14] And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
THIS CHURCH WAS RUN BY WOMEN.
2 John 1:1 (KJV) The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
[lady] Greek: kuria , feminine of kurios (, Lord. It may signify some honorable woman to whom John addressed the epistle. She probably had a church in her home. She was a married woman, because her children are also saluted. No husband is mentioned, so perhaps she was a widow who entertained many Ministers and traveling evangelists in her home.
HERE WOMEN WERE TOLD TO TEACH.
Titus 2:3-5 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; [4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, [5] To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
WOMEN HELP PAUL IN HIS MINISTRY.
Philip. 4:3 (KJV) And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
which laboured with me-"inasmuch as they labored with me." At Philippi, women were the first hearers of the Gospel, and Lydia the first convert. It is a coincidence, which marks genuineness, that in this Epistle alone, special instructions are given to women who labored with Paul in the Gospel. In selecting the first teachers, those first converted would naturally be fixed on. Euodia and Syntyche were doubtless two of "the women who resorted to the riverside, where prayer was wont to be made" (Acts 16:13), and being early converted, would naturally take an active part in teaching other women called at a later period;
WOMEN CAN DO EVERY THING IN THE CHURCH JUST LIKE MEN IF THE WOMEN REACH CERTAIN STANDARD AND HAVE CERTAIN QUALITIES.
The woman preacher must be save, must be a disciple. Calling and gifts must be seen in her ministry, she must be in subjection to her husband, and believe in the delegated authority of man. She must be trained for the ministry and post that she wants to occupy. She must not be gossipers, and a person who talk without thinking what the things that she is saying is going to cost. She must be discrete, becomes holiness, and are not suppose to be a striker. Readers must look the verse up because they are in the Bible. It was ok for the age women to teach, age women who has certain qualities. She must be in behaviors, becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, or addicted to alcohol beverage, and teachers of good things.
The things that women must teach the younger women.
Teaching the younger women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discrete, chase, good house keepers, good, obedient to their own husbands. And if they do these things, the word of God will not suffer blasphemy.
“Soberness” Mean to understand the seriousness of life. We do not even need to go any further. To love husband mean do give the husband due benevolence.
CHRISTIANS WOMEN USES SEX TO MANIPULATE THE MARRIAGE.
When does any of us hear a woman preacher speak against these activities? In all my years in the Church I never hear a woman preacher teach and any of these things. When they finish teaching, they made the other women in the Church more rebellious than ever. If they must teach!! The above subject matter is what they must teach.
1Co 7:2 Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband every woman have her own husband. 1Co 7:3 let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Titus 2:3 That old women are to be self-respecting in behaviour, not saying evil of others, not given to taking much wine, teachers of that which is good, Tit 2:4 Training the younger women to have love for their husbands and children, Tit 2:5 To be wise in mind, clean in heart, kind; working in their houses, living under the authority of their husbands; so that no evil may be said of the word of God.
IT WAS PREDICTED THAT BOTH WOMEN AND MEN WOULD PREACH THE GOSPEL.
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Acts 2:16-17 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; [17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Acts 21:8-9 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him. [9] And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.
Fourteen Prophetesses
Hebrew: nebiy ah), a woman who prophesies. First occurrence in the Bible. Rachel was the first woman to prophesy, but she was not called a prophetess (Genesis 30:24). As God has done in the past, He will yet pour out His Spirit on women (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:16-21).
WOMEN PREACHERS IN THE OLD TESTAMENTS.
Micah 6:4 For I brought thee up out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of servants; and I sent before thee Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.
1. Rachel (Genesis 30:24)
2. Miriam (Exodus 15:20)
3. Deborah (Judges 4:4)
4. Huldah (2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chron. 34:22)
5. Noadiah (Neh. 6:14)
6. Isaiah's wife (Isaiah 8:3)
7. Elizabeth (Luke 1:41-45)
8. Mary, mother of Jesus (Luke 1:46-55)
9. Anna (Luke 2:36-38)
10. Jezebel, a false prophetess (Rev. 2:20)
11-14. Phillip's four daughters (Acts 21:9)
Judges 4:4-9 And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. [5] And she dwelt under the palm tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in mount Ephraim: and the children of Israel came up to her for judgment. [6] And she sent and called Barak the son of Abinoam out of Kedesh-naphtali, and said unto him, Hath not the Lord God of Israel commanded, saying, Go and draw toward mount Tabor, and take with thee ten thousand men of the children of Naphtali and of the children of Zebulun? [7] And I will draw unto thee to the river Kishon Sisera, the captain of Jabin's army, with his chariots and his multitude; and I will deliver him into thine hand. [8] And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go. [9] And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the Lord shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.
Eight reasons for women preachers: Finish Dake Notes.
1. In the Gospels we read of several women messengers who proclaimed "good news" (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:9-11; John 4:28-30; John 20:16-18).)
2. In Acts 2:14-21; Joel 2:28-31 God predicted and promised that He Himself would pour out His Spirit upon women and they would prophesy. To prophesy means to "speak to men to edification, exhortation, and comfort" (1 Cor. 14:3). "He that prophesieth edifieth the church" (1 Cor. 14:4). Prophesying is for the Church and general public (1 Cor. 12:1-31; 1 Cor. 14:1-6,12,24-26,29-33).)
3. In Acts 21:8-9 it is clear that Philip's four daughters were prophetesses, that is, they were evangelists like their father. This is in perfect accord with Joel 2:28-29 which was fulfilled in the early church (Acts 2:16), and with Acts 2:17-18 which will be fulfilled in the last days.)
4. In Romans 16 we have record of a number of women servants of the Lord in various Churches. Phebe (Romans 16:1-2), Priscilla (Romans 16:3-5), Mary, Tryphena, Tryphosa, Persis, and Julia (Romans 16:6-15) are mentioned as laborers in the Lord.)
5. In Phil. 4:2 Euodias and Syntyche are mentioned as being leaders of the Church at Philippi.
6. Corinthian women prophesied and prayed in church (1 Cor. 11:4-5), so the scripture in 1 Cor. 14:34-35 that is used to condemn women preachers does not refer to preaching but to disturbance in Church services—asking or talking out to their husbands in Church, as stated in 1 Cor. 14:35. Even so with 1 Tim. 2:11-15, Paul is not condemning women preachers as long as they keep their place and do not "usurp authority over the man." Both men and women at Corinth were permitted to pray and prophesy, but were regulated by fixed laws in doing so (1 Cor. 14:24-32).
7. In 1 Cor. 12 Paul compares the Church to a human body and mentions nine gifts of the Spirit, including the gift of prophecy, for all the members of the body of Christ, men and women.
8. Women were used of God in Old Testament days as prophetesses (Exodus 15:20; Judges 4:4; 2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chron. 34:22; Neh. 6:14; Isaiah 8:3; Luke 1:39-56; Luke 2:36). The law made provision for women to make sacrifices, attend feasts, and make vows (Deut. 12:11-18; Leviticus 27).
CONCLUSION:
Therefore, Churches that do not believe in women preachers, loose more than they gain, because. God has used a rod (Exodus 4:2,17); ass (Numbers 22:28); ram's horn (Josh 6:5); ox goad, nail, barley cake, pitchers, jawbone, millstone (Judges 3:31; Judges 4:21; Judges 7:13,20; Judges 9:53; Judges 15:15-19); mantle (2 Kings 2:8); ditches (2 Kings 3:16); empty vessels (2 Kings 4:3); cruise of oil, ravens (1 Kings 17:4,16); worm, wind, fish, goard (Jonah 1:4,17; Jonah 4:6-7); cock (Mark 14:72); and many other weak things to confound the mighty (1 Cor. 1:18-21). Is it not possible then that he can use a woman?
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