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Vox
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posted 27-05-2000 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vox   Click Here to Email Vox     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
So what did comboSlayer mean when she said that?

In my opinion it comes down to two options:

1) That Adam could never comprehend the power Buffy and the Scooby Gang's friendship gave them because he could never experience anything like it

2) The more likely reason that the source of their power was their magic incantation. Magic, of course, being something that was never considered in the design of Adam.

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C
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posted 28-05-2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for C   Click Here to Email C     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Or that the source of the slayer's power was a primeval meta-slayer, and that combo-slayer was channeling meta-slayer directly rather than merely being an aspect of her.

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julz
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posted 28-05-2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for julz   Click Here to Email julz     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Im going to lay my prediction hat in the ring and say that that is going to lead somewhere (maybe next ep, even)... it was too weird to be a one-off, plus very weird event, plus very weird events in advert for restless...

2+2=...

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Alex
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posted 28-05-2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alex   Click Here to Email Alex     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vox:
So what did comboSlayer mean when she said that?


2) The more likely reason that the source of their power was their magic incantation. Magic, of course, being something that was never considered in the design of Adam.


That would make sense, except that in Superstar Adam understood what was going on better than anybody else, and he certainly knew about magic.

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Vox
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posted 28-05-2000 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vox   Click Here to Email Vox     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
I've gone back and looked at what Willow chanted:


"The power of the Slayer and all who yield it. Last to ancient first, we invoke thee. Grant us thy domain and primal
strength. Accept us in the power we possess."

So it seems that the power that Adam could never hope to grasp was the power of the Slayer, whatever force it is that has granted the Slayers down through the ages their mystic strength.

Which, to my mind, begs the question, where on earth did they come up with this spell?

There were two spells in operation at the time, the first was the conjoining one which joined Buffy/Xander/Willow/Giles together to allow Buffy to utilise their separate abilities. comboSlayer then used that ability to call forth this power of the primeval Slayer deal. But when they were planning this operation the spell that Giles picked out he said was some sort of immobilising spell written in Sumerian.

So how did the immobilising spell turn into the primeval spell?


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C
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posted 28-05-2000 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for C   Click Here to Email C     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
My take was that thinking about the immobilising spell gave Giles the idea of the combo-slayer spell, which is presumably in the "In case of emergency..." section at the back of the "Ye Olde Watcherse Spelle Booke" the get as graduation presents from the council.

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Thebigd_17
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posted 29-05-2000 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thebigd_17   Click Here to Email Thebigd_17     Edit/Delete Message  55133506   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vox:
But when they were planning this operation the spell that Giles picked out he said was some sort of immobilising spell written in Sumerian.

So how did the immobilising spell turn into the primeval spell?




I wondered the exact same thing

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Joe
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posted 02-06-2000 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe   Click Here to Email Joe     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Getting back to the 'source of our power' thing, I think Buffy and the previous Slayers get their strength and other powers from the restless spirit of the original Slayer, who would have been *much* more powerful than a modern human. It's a symbiotic relationship facilitated by the Powers That Be.
The one snag is that this spirit seems to be imbuing two separate people with Slayer powers, but I think that one of them (probably Buffy, since she actually died) has had her powers sustained by the PTB in return for her outstanding contribution to the Cause.
Well, that's what I think

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Idiot Jed
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posted 02-06-2000 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Idiot Jed   Click Here to Email Idiot Jed     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
What I got from the whole thing was that they were trying to tie up the Adam plot with the friendship one, and so the primevil spell. Incredibly dangerous, harnessing a power beyond comprehension. Basically too powerful for any one person to conjure. The group effort, mind-heart-hand-soul, come together as one and only then can such potent energies be redirected.

Presumiably why Adam couldn't even hope to comprehend the source of their power is because, although he's made up of many different parts, none of them are whole, and the force of two or more people coming together is accepting all of them, faults and all, in order to benefit from their unique strengths. Trying to attach all of the strengths and just cutting out the weaknesses is not enough.

The fact that Spike bursts in on the after-effects of this spell to save their lives I find very interesting. Because, although trying to be all evil, his stirring actually brought the group together when they needed it most.

I'm presuming the first Slayer got annoyed because she didn't have anyone, as with most of the Slayers, and so her strength, though great, could never match up to the scooby gang as a whole.

The rather sweet moral of the story - friendship is the most powerful entity on this plain.

(thats sort of what I got from the whole thing anyway)

[This message has been edited by Idiot Jed (edited 02-06-2000).]

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