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Topic: Master rising question?
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Cecilia Scooby Gang Member Posts: 426 Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 10:44 AM
Okay so how did the Master rise on this world? I thought that he required the Slayer's blood to do so. Obviously everything up to Buffy's arrival (or not in this reality's case) would be the same, so he'd still be stuck in the underground church...yes? Are we supposed to assume that the Harvest deal worked, if so where are Luke, and Darla? Or did Xander and Willow dust them to gain rank? Confusion much! Help.
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Space Duck Scooby Gang Member Posts: 30 Registered: May 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 11:03 AM
Well in the episode 'Prophecy Girl', the Master rising was not connected to 'Welcome To The Hellmouth' so I'm assuming The Harvest did actually happen and Willow and Xander were vamped. :PGod know what happend to Luke and Darla, perhaps they got dusted by the many that have tried to kill the Master. 
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The Jockster Bit Character Posts: 7 Registered: May 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 03:38 PM
As soon as it became apparent that Buffy had never been to Sunnydale, I thought, "The Master isn't Dead!" I then started wondering about The Chosen, but figured that as The Master had recruited him after The Harvest failed, he wouldn't have needed to in this reality.An interesting illustration of how Buffy's defiance of rules and regs has aided her - in this episode, she was the sort of hard-nosed Slayer that we've come to believe is what they're meant to be like (Kendra, Faith), as opposed to the fluffier, more outgoing, less alone slayer we know as Buffy. This time, when she fought the Master, she was doing it alone, without any sort of backup. And died. Last time she fought the Master, she did it alone, without any sort of backup. And died. And then the backup appeared, and brought her back. And she defeated the Master. Therefore, only a Slayer who had broken the rules COULD have saved the world. If the Watcher's Council ever figure this out, they'll be spitting feathers, I can tell you... 
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StuStuStu Watcher Posts: 1847 Registered: Dec 99
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posted 08-06-2000 05:37 PM
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*nods* just because BUFFY didn't kill Luke/Darla, it doesn't mean they'd be alive.I actually liked the fact that in the Wishverse, Joss didn't feel the need to bring back EVERY villain that was ever on the show. Also, don't forget... the Wishverse will be only one of infinite realities where Buffy didn't come to Sunnydale. 
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Byron Scooby Gang Member Posts: 313 Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 07:03 PM
Infinite Vamp Willow's . . . Mummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!  
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The Master Scooby Gang Member Posts: 126 Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 09:49 PM
I would also guess that the master rose from the harvest. I also suspect willow was turned first, because she went off with that vamp in the first episode, and as buffy wasn't there to stop her well. So willow prob turned xander. It was good to see them together in this episode, they seemed to have a spike/drusila act about them.
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Whistler Scooby Gang Member Posts: 1284 Registered: Jan 100
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posted 08-06-2000 09:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by The Master: I would also guess that the master rose from the harvest. I also suspect willow was turned first, because she went off with that vamp in the first episode, and as buffy wasn't there to stop her well. So willow prob turned xander. It was good to see them together in this episode, they seemed to have a spike/drusila act about them.
But who's to say Willow would have gone with the vampire in the Bronze. She only went with him in 'our' universe because Buffy encouraged her to 'seize the day', remember. In this alternate universe she probably would have done nothing. While I agree she probably sired Xander, or vice-versa, it's likely that the first of them to turn did so at, or after, the Harvest  
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MonSTeR Scooby Gang Member Posts: 415 Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 08-06-2000 10:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Whistler: But who's to say Willow would have gone with the vampire in the Bronze. She only went with him in 'our' universe because Buffy encouraged her to 'seize the day', remember. In this alternate universe she probably would have done nothing. While I agree she probably sired Xander, or vice-versa, it's likely that the first of them to turn did so at, or after, the Harvest 
I reckon Xander sired Willow but drove her insane first..... Oh Wait....wasn't that????? (Hence the little white vest on Xander and Willow's "I wanna play with the puppy" thing) 
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