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Cecilia
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posted 08-06-2000 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cecilia   Click Here to Email Cecilia     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Okay so how did the Master rise on this world?
I thought that he required the Slayer's blood to do so. Obviously everything up to Buffy's arrival (or not in this reality's case) would be the same, so he'd still be stuck in the underground church...yes?
Are we supposed to assume that the Harvest deal worked, if so where are Luke, and Darla?
Or did Xander and Willow dust them to gain rank?
Confusion much! Help.

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Space Duck
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posted 08-06-2000 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Duck   Click Here to Email Space Duck     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Well in the episode 'Prophecy Girl', the Master rising was not connected to 'Welcome To The Hellmouth' so I'm assuming The Harvest did actually happen and Willow and Xander were vamped. :P

God know what happend to Luke and Darla, perhaps they got dusted by the many that have tried to kill the Master.

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The Jockster
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posted 08-06-2000 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Jockster   Click Here to Email The Jockster     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
As soon as it became apparent that Buffy had never been to Sunnydale, I thought, "The Master isn't Dead!" I then started wondering about The Chosen, but figured that as The Master had recruited him after The Harvest failed, he wouldn't have needed to in this reality.

An interesting illustration of how Buffy's defiance of rules and regs has aided her - in this episode, she was the sort of hard-nosed Slayer that we've come to believe is what they're meant to be like (Kendra, Faith), as opposed to the fluffier, more outgoing, less alone slayer we know as Buffy. This time, when she fought the Master, she was doing it alone, without any sort of backup. And died.

Last time she fought the Master, she did it alone, without any sort of backup. And died.

And then the backup appeared, and brought her back. And she defeated the Master.

Therefore, only a Slayer who had broken the rules COULD have saved the world. If the Watcher's Council ever figure this out, they'll be spitting feathers, I can tell you...

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StuStuStu
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posted 08-06-2000 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StuStuStu   Click Here to Email StuStuStu     Edit/Delete Message  11315396   Reply w/Quote
*nods* just because BUFFY didn't kill Luke/Darla, it doesn't mean they'd be alive.

I actually liked the fact that in the Wishverse, Joss didn't feel the need to bring back EVERY villain that was ever on the show.

Also, don't forget... the Wishverse will be only one of infinite realities where Buffy didn't come to Sunnydale.

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Byron
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posted 08-06-2000 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Byron   Click Here to Email Byron     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
Infinite Vamp Willow's . . . Mummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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The Master
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posted 08-06-2000 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Master   Click Here to Email The Master     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
I would also guess that the master rose from the harvest.
I also suspect willow was turned first, because she went off with that vamp in the first episode, and as buffy wasn't there to stop her well.
So willow prob turned xander. It was good to see them together in this episode, they seemed to have a spike/drusila act about them.

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Whistler
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posted 08-06-2000 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whistler   Click Here to Email Whistler     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by The Master:
I would also guess that the master rose from the harvest.
I also suspect willow was turned first, because she went off with that vamp in the first episode, and as buffy wasn't there to stop her well.
So willow prob turned xander. It was good to see them together in this episode, they seemed to have a spike/drusila act about them.

But who's to say Willow would have gone with the vampire in the Bronze. She only went with him in 'our' universe because Buffy encouraged her to 'seize the day', remember. In this alternate universe she probably would have done nothing. While I agree she probably sired Xander, or vice-versa, it's likely that the first of them to turn did so at, or after, the Harvest

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MonSTeR
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posted 08-06-2000 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonSTeR   Click Here to Email MonSTeR     Edit/Delete Message     Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Whistler:
But who's to say Willow would have gone with the vampire in the Bronze. She only went with him in 'our' universe because Buffy encouraged her to 'seize the day', remember. In this alternate universe she probably would have done nothing. While I agree she probably sired Xander, or vice-versa, it's likely that the first of them to turn did so at, or after, the Harvest


I reckon Xander sired Willow but drove her insane first..... Oh Wait....wasn't that????? (Hence the little white vest on Xander and Willow's "I wanna play with the puppy" thing)

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