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Entry for February 8, 2007

Reply to haters' lies on the Talmud





More on Fascists' lies on the Beautiful

Talmud




Introduction




The Bible is the base for Zionists (Christians/Jews) the Talmud is the base for non Zionists religious pious Jews.


(Most Israelis do NOT know the most part of the Talmud, at all).

It is also theanti War Talmud that the non Zionists , orthodox Jews take their inspiration from.

Most orthodox Jews do NOT serve in Israeli army (even though it is basically a defense against terrorism).

In fact Dr. Dahan the Talmudic rabbi Orthodox Jewish leader was gunned down by secular Zionists, as he tried to

make peace concessions with Arab leaders, prior to 1948.




1) Hebrews/Israelites, started to be called 'Jews'

especially since the book of Esther in the Bible OT.




2) A Jew can be black, brown, white, etc. as long as he

converts to Judaism or is born a Jew, they are all equal in

Judaism.




3) Every religion prides itself on it's faith, however,

contrary to Christianity, Judaism does not promote/suggest to convert non Jews,

contrary to Islam, Judaism does not promote/suggest to convert or to kill the

"non believers".




4) Judaism adheres to one and only one supreme that is

GOD and his laws as passed by Moses, which includes the oral part, the

Talmud.




5) Talmud glorifies non Jews' high morals and quotes

them as models to be followed after.




The fake 'quotes' that was started by earlier anti Jewish haters, has been reinforced today by Islamo fascists, radicals that use their Quran parts, which no one refutes, against all non Muslims, or "non believers", in fact, no other religion uses violence in the name of religion,BUT radical Islam.




The FAKE "quotes" used to demonize the holy great beautiful Talmud (which was given to Moses on mount Sinai as the other part of the Torah, which combines both, the written part - Bible old testament & the oral part - the Talmud), will either completely make up "lines", take words out

of context, as anti-Jewish "writers" they (mostly based on an infmaous Nazi by Mr. Hoffmann, as a "good" supremacist that glorifies Hitler, he is looking for fake signs of any "supremacy" in his Jewish victims of real supremacy) will even claim to "know better the Talmud than those who study it & received it's explanations traditionally", will choose to "interpret" certain terms to fit it's goal of claiming such claims that no Talmudist ever heard of!




Here is some sample of the "bulk" of those

"claims".







The supremacy of the Talmud over the

Bible




Correction, Talmud explains THE Bible, thus the Talmud is IN the Bible, not "over".





in the Israeli state




Israeli State is SECULAR!

No connection to "religion" much less to the

Talmud!







Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic

tradition, the

black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been

forbidden by

the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in

the

Israeli state.




Not true, there is a fear that they intermarried with Non Jews over the

years, as Christians/Christianity prohibits marring non Christians in their

faith, as Muslims/Islam do not permit to marry non Muslims, but than again the Nazi "author" of this hate piece, Mr. Hoffmann hates blacks too, so much

for his caring...







Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the

most

influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of

Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish

religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining

more

than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish

leadership.






Not true, he WAS regarded as a very knowledgeable man but not a

decider.


But you, as a fraud had to quote some Jewish line to make

your 'article' look "credible".







The Talmud Nullifies the Bible




That's a complete lie. the Talmud is of course an EXPLANATION of

the bible as traditionally brought down from Moses orally on mount Sinai.

For example, It is the wrongfully 'bible learners' non Talmudists who "interpret" 'An eye for an eye', literally, however the holy humane Talmud interprets it as a monetary penalty, ONLY!








The famous warning of Jesus Christ






He studied the Talmud, that is also why he spoke in Aramaic. Just What exactly would "aryan" Hitler do to Jesus the

JEW?







Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day,

the widespread "Judeo-Christian" notion is that the Old Testament is the

supreme

book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for

doctrine the

commandments of rabbis, not God.






What a bunch of crap, Rabbis sinply do not adhere to "men" or newly

"prophets" that claim to be alive but eternal GOD!











The Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme

law, and not the Bible itself







False!

it IS the BIBLE, it is the interpretation OF the BIBLE







Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in Judaism on Trial, quotes

Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able

to

understand passages in the Bible...God has handed this authority to the

sages

and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture.




As the Bible said "You shall do as your sages tell you"







[As they have been passed on by anyone who does not study

the Talmud cannot understand Scripture."










There is a tiny Jewish sect which makes considerable

effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament

alone






Without the Talmud interpretation, How can they know what it means? there are so many questions.





These are the Karaites, a group which, historically, has

been most hated and severely persecuted by orthodox Jewish

rabbinate.




Nice try, Still, HITLER & the author Nazi of this piece, hates ALL

Jews, regardless of their "believes".







This study is based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian

Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish

Talmud.

Look them up for yourself






You don't have, no "study" but you just took out off context such phrases

to make it look like what YOU wanted to come out, and also inserted the term "non Jews' which of course it is not the term the Talmud uses "akum" which means early type of pagans.

If you were really quoting what the Talmud says, after understanding a bit about the Talmud, you would not claim to have these "believes", wishful by you.







We publish the following irrefutable





Excuse me?









The implementation by Jewish supremacists of

Talmudic






Old trick by supremacists to blame/brand their very victims as/of "supremacists", the only supremacy the Talmud adheres to is high morals and God, that is why it glorifies beautiful gentiles like 'Dama Ben Netina' how the Roman (non Jew) honored his parents, so that we can all learn from him and COPY him.







literature has caused untold suffering throughout history

and now,






Oh really, Did it matter to Hitler if you are a Talmudic non-Communist, or

a non Talmudic Zionist or a secular without any ideology? all were doomed, as well as by Mr. Hoffmann, the Nazi author of this "article"!









in occupied Palestine





Oh, Here it comes, (even if it were true such a fantasy, only for the sake

of the argument, that an Aryan "white" Nazi like the author of the so

called "quotes" would care about "brown" Arabs...) Did you know that the

more Talmudic you are, the more non or anti Zionist you are?

The Bible is the base for Zionism (Christian or Jewish) the Talmud is the base for non-Zionism.







it is used as a justification for the mass murder of

Palestinian civilians.






What a complete lie!

The Israeli defense forces does NOT STUDY the Talmud, it is mostly secular! the IDF, that fight mass murderers racist Arab Muslim militants that push for their genocide to "wipe off Israel", motivated by Arab racism on non Arabs & Islamic Jihad on non Muslims as they quote the Quran of 'fighting the infidels' who are not more than COWS.

Nor does anyone that fights Islamic fascist militant terrorists all around the world is known to 'study the Talmud'...







The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews










"all who are not jews"??? in the entire Talmud you can't find such a

phrase.









as non-human animals





Lie!, Where on earth have you made this up? we see your so called

"evidence" (at the end portions) about some laws regarding after death, which somehow only YOU managed to make from humans "animals".







Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

Where a Jew Should

Do Evil







You are caught in your own trap!

Some study alright, you, as an Islamofascist or a Nazi, you simple hate Jews, and (which is why you) associate all Jews with evil.







Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should

go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there






It does not say that, it talks explicitly about a "person in a certain stage that his evil inclination & impulses are strong", it DOES NOT permit him to "do any evil', read the source, R. Chananel explains that he should move from his local place into exile so that his heart will be broken and the materialism - impulses will vanish.







the gentile must be killed




Where Does it say that? liar! I can't find it there. Does it say that 'all

Non Christians should be killed,' in your "source"?







O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews




Don't make up titles to fit your hate supremacy upon Jews.




Now you are quoting about three things, killing, cheating , robbing and you

try to associate them with "non jews". your base is "cuthean" Just to clarify, it is NOT to 'ok' to cheat anybody!





gentile ("Cuthean") , Non-Jews ... Cuthean..."





Cuthean is not a "gentile", if you don't

now something, Ask! don't make up!









Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies





Do you even know what it refers to? of course not, nor did you bother NOT

to associate it with "lying" itself.







Sub-Human





Really? you writing it again, now, shall we go to your "proof"?





Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are

animals




LIAR! Here is what it says: "all early type of pagans have animal

behavior".





Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah

(filth) from birth.






Only a person that looks for and thinks about filth, would interpret it

into "filth".


'Nida' does NOT refer to "filth" it ONLY refers to the halachic DISTANCE

suggested.







Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with

cows.






Here we go again, you use the term "gentile", However, early type of pagans probably did such things.







Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian

Books






And just How could that be? There weren't YET, any real "Christians" at

that time!

Here you choose to switch "minim" for "christians".







Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament

("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to

come







This probably is one of the most self contradictory of your hate collection

that you call 'study', How could it refer to the new testament if the Talmud

wrote it long before this NT was published???







Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the

Christians, i.e. the New Testament. "book of the

christians"






Really? 'Christians' are not even mentioned in the Talmud, not even once!

Liar!









Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust

that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat

it.







Don't quote old medicine if you don't know what they did







Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of

occupations.







How did you interpret it "low"? Economically?

Fact is that many Talmudic

Rabbis were in agriculture.







Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl

(specifically, three years "and a day" old).






Early adulthood and development were utterly different, but it does not

mean "sex". If your claim is true, Find me one Jew since the Talmud that

married a "three years old", you can't find any, and Why not?







Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as

the child is less than nine years old.




Can you help me find it? you switched the words there.

Why not make up a line "a Christian, a Muslim may have sex with nine years old".









Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a

little girl it is nothing."







It doesn't say it is "nothing" as you represent it here, it defines it in a

term that you failed to understand because it talks about legal ramification in results or non results in the too-young girl's body, which you choose to ignore, instead you choose to put it on the act itself.







Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in

the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi






EDITING AGAIN?




In a pattern sick intention, Here you inserted something all by YOURSELF

the word "talmudic", again, in order to demonize the Talmud, you already called him 'sage' though he was called 'sage' only AFTER he repented and was sorry against all he has done, due to the reply she has given to Eliezer, the man that was a sinner was no "rabbi" of course, but he was shown compassion from God for his changing ways afterwards, then of course, you do NOT quote the Talmud about his repentance and that only after that he was called "rabbi".

But instead of seing the beautiful moral of the story that any man can change, and the importance of second chance, you linked the word/part "whore", without the whole story.







Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy

("catarrh") a

Jew should "take the ... of a white dog and knead it with

balsam,





Where does it say "jew"?

Again from that piece about ancient medical practice at that time, of course global medicine was hardly only a "talmud" thing.







Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the

following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a

woman

or a slave.




Again you are telling us that 'akum' is a "gentile"?

Don't Christians, Muslims praise/pride for being of/in their religion?

Now, though Women are higher in spirituality OVER men, men CAN reach higher levels IF they work on themselves because of the hard work they broke through to achieve that goal, there for a male thanks for his chance to reach higher, but women by nature are HIGHER!









Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust






Is this an attempt to ridicule the holocaust on at least 6,000,000 Jews in

WW2 (by your type of people), in order to push for a new holocaust?







Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud:

Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the

city

of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were

wrapped in

scrolls and burned alive by the Romans.







(Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16

million Jews in the entire world at that time,





How so? what proof is there? or are there 'theories'?


Do we know exactly how many Indians were in America, or how many Mayans

were before the Spaniards came?







Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to

the

grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the

extermination of non-Jews.




(Non Jews - Muslims, Arabs also revere him!), He never did that, Where is

that (at least) FAKE quote in the Talmud? in fact, this whole "piece of study" of yours is almost entirely based on YOUR "quote" from him as we shall see further.




As a repeater, Now of course you will double the emphasis on your "conclusion", again and again.







Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human The Talmud

specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals




You said it again above/before and it is of course Not true, your evidences

are not there!


One could just as easily invent that Christianity says that all non Christians are non Humans, however no Muslim refutes the reference to Christians & Jews as pigs & apes in the Quran.






and specifically




Here you go, don't "generalize" baseless and then come down to "specifically" when you have generalized nothing yet with any foundation, with ANY source!







dehumanizes Gentiles as not being descendants of Adam.




How could it be? you can't find ONE Talmudic person that thinks that, what a ridiculous thing to say, Whom did Adam have if not all of us?

(Reminder, this is not the Quran that radical Muslims themselves like to quote about non Muslims being apes & pigs).







Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate to this

topic.




Please quote ALL that you seem to "know", not "just some".... LOL.







Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have

taught: He who pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels ...if over

gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to cattle

and

vessels is right,






It does not say "goyim" you made it up.









"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he

is exempt, since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But

why

is one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the

category of

man (Adam)? No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep of my

pasture, are

man" (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam) but

gentiles (goyim) are

not called man (Adam).",

Another example from

tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was

taught: And so did R. Simeon ben Yohai state

(61a) that the graves of gentiles

(goyim) do not impart levitical

uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over

a grave], for it is said,

'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are men

(Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31];

you are called men (Adam) but the idolaters are not

called men (Adam)."

,

From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in

a graveyard.

When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the

Mosaic

law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits

Jews

from coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites), and he was

standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by Rabbi Simon ben

Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For it is written,

'And ye

my flock, the flock of my pastures, are[/quote] men (Adam)' (Ezekiel

34:31);

only ye are designated men (Adam)."








Now this, and ONLY this piece (with it's repetitions) is the ENTIRE

"base" with which you base your invention of "dehumanization" upon, what you are trying so hard to convince us all to believe what no Talmudists believes.

Here we have come to your entire gist.

Shall we examine what it means "kruyin adam"? or you want to claim that you understand Talmud better than ANY Talmudists has ever understood it's language".




Because you/your "study" are based on an ignorant that "transferred" the

word "Adam" from Genesis, that "man" onto the term of R. Shimon's relating to people AFTER death which talks only about laws impurity as defined in the Bible and only in Biblical times.







In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof

of

the sub-human




You have invented the "sub human" status (we saw your so called proof), it

does NOT exist in the Talmud but in Nazi Germany, in Neo Nazism and in radicals that use the Quran (Islamo fascists) to say that Christians & Jews are apes & pigs or all non Muslims are cows.







Moses Maimonides




Is he "Talmud"?

Since when? he was

about 800 years ago...




Then again you inserted "christian books" as IF it is referred to in the

TALMUD (which of course is a false idea historically speaking), No sense of realhistory.

How can you know how many Jews there were, if you have no historic

sense about it, much less about it's content?




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