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>:::The following added 1994/03/29 19:41 by S3BU
>:: Goatboy Lord of the Absurd and Ale8-1
These aren't the droids you're looking for.
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>:::The following added 1994/03/31 22:47 by S1CM
>:: Hibiki Kanzaki, Anaheim Electronics Mobile Suit Sales and Service Rep
Duct tape is like The Force, it has a light side, a dark side, and it
holds the universe together.
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>:::The following added 1994/04/08 23:21 by S1CM
>:: Hibiki Kanzaki, Anaheim Electronics Mobile Suit Sales and Service Rep
I finnaly figured out why the stormtrooper armor doesn't seem to do
a terribly good job. Like almost all mass procured military equipment:
IT WAS BUILT BY THE LOWEST BIDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder it doesn't work all that great.
Hibiki Kanzaki
Anaheim Electronics
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>:::The following added 1994/04/15 22:19 by S3BU
>:: Goatboy Sentient Plaque Germs
From rass:
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>:::The following added 1994/04/18 16:42 by S3BU
>:: Jackson Davenport Livewire
--Jeff "Koganuts" Koga
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>:::The following added 1994/04/20 16:39 by S1CM
>:: Wireboy without a Life Freedonian Dept. of Agriculture
Just figured out this whole stormtrooper marksmanship thing.
In SW:ANH, when Kenobi says "Only Imperial stormtroopers could
be this percise" is it possible that he was being _sarcastic_?
I mean, look at the place. It was covered with blaster burns at there
were two charred corpses in the front yard. Precision? I don't think
so.
/ \
|=(0)=|
\ /
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>:::The following added 1994/05/04 19:46 by S3BU
>:: Crix Wildrose Co-Commander, Operation Kamikaze
Except for the fact that the Death Star is employing a television
station production switcher as it's weapons console, it's fine. I
always get a chuckle watching the weapons officer dramatically pulling
on that fader bar. Instead of the energy beam firing, I keep expecting
the scene to fade to black instead.
Derek
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>:::The following added 1994/05/16 21:39 by S3BU
>:: Nicolo Paganini Violinist, Gambler, Womanizer
Well, that last post by Steve has been posted to r.a.s.s. Here is some-
thing from the script of RotJ that didn't make the movie. The original
poster is Asle Jakobsen:
This I found in ROTJ-script and it was NOT in the movie:
LUKE
Leia! Leia's my sister.
BEN
Your insight serves you well. Bury your
feelings deep down, Luke. They do you credit.
But they could be made to serve the Emperor.
Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.
BEN (continuing his narrative)
When your father left, he didn't know your
mother was pregnant. Your mother and I knew
he would find out eventually, but we wanted
to keep you both as safe as possible, for as
long as possible. So I took you to live with
my brother Owen on Tatooine... and your mother
took Leia to live as the daughter of Senator
Organa, on Alderaan.
Luke turns, and settles near Ben to hear the tale.
BEN (attempting to give solace with his words)
The Organa household was high-born and
politically quite powerful in that system.
Leia became a princess by virtue of
lineage... no one knew she'd been adopted, of
course. But it was a title without real
power, since Alderaan had long been a
democracy. Even so, the family continued to
be politically powerful, and Leia, following
in her foster father's path, became a senator
as well. That's not all she became, of
course... she became the leader of her cell
in the Alliance against the corrupt Empire.
And because she had diplomatic immunity, she
was a vital link for getting information to
the Rebel cause. That's what she was doing
when her path crossed yours... for her foster
parents had always told her to contact me on
Tatooine, if her troubles became desperate.
Luke is overwhelmed by the truth, and is suddenly protective of
his sister.
LUKE
But you can't let her get involved now, Ben.
Vader will destroy her.
BEN
She hasn't been trained in the ways of the
Jedi the way you have, Luke ... but the Force
is strong with her, as it is with all of your
family. There is no avoiding the battle. You
must face and destroy Vader!
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>:::The following added 1994/09/10 16:01 by S3BU
>:: Cmdr. Wedge Antilles Rogue Leader
From r.a.s.s.:
Actually, if you've ever investigated any of the Oriental martial arts,
particulary Aikido, you'll find they have omething very similar to the Force.
It is a kind of internal energy known as ki. Aikido particularly emphasises the
use of ki, and the projection or extension of it during movement. Essentially,
the ki is supposed to flow through you (sound familiar?) and give extra energy
to your movements. You can also extend it out to the rest of the world,
although not to the extant of lifting X-wings.
The ethical stance of Aikido seems similar in many respects to that of the Jedi
as well.
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Allan McInnes - Electronic Engineering, University of Canterbury
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
-Lazarus Long
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>:::The following added 1995/01/08 16:03 by JCORMIER
>:: Cmdr. Wedge Antilles Rogue Leader
Announcements, of a Star Wars variety:
1. I am now the proud owner of the letterboxed, collector's edition
of the Trilogy. I am more than up for a marathon on whatever weekend
works.
2. The Truce at Bakura, by Kathy Tyers, is excellent. It is out in
paperback and details events immediately following the Battle of Endor.
3. Champions of the Force, by Kevin Anderson, the last installment of
the Jedi Academy Trilogy, is...well...silly. It has its moments, but
over all, it leaves you wishing for more.
MTFBWYA,
JC
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>:::The following added 1995/01/09 13:37 by SBOWDEN
>:: Lord Valder Ohmsford The Master of Vision
I hear that the new SW book trilogy coming out is going to be good,
based on what I've heard about the author. Or something like that.
Any elobarotion out there?
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>:::The following added 1995/01/09 20:20 by JCORMIER
>:: Cmdr. Wedge Antilles Rogue Leader
New book trilogy?? Haven't heard about that...do you know the author??
Also, I read Dark Empire over break. It's very good. Depressing, but
good.
And I now own Dark Empire II #1, and have the other 5 reserved. The
set of six original Dark Empire books were at the Ky Flea Market over
break and were being sold for $150.
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>:::The following added 1995/01/10 00:10 by SBOWDEN
>:: Mister White / Mister Wolf Resevoir Dogs / Problem Solving
Ah! Dark Empire! Anybody know where my copy has got to?
I seem to have loaned it out.... last year!
Anyhoo, the new author's name is Vonda McEntire or something close.
Any help?
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>:::The following added 1995/01/10 01:20 by JCORMIER
>:: Cmdr. Wedge Antilles Rogue Leader
Well, she wrote The Crystal Star, which is out in hardback now.
In this book, the Jedi children apparently get kidnapped. I
don't know if it's a part of a trilogy or not though...
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>:::The following added 1995/01/11 03:53 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
So how many kidnappings (at least attempted ones) have there been on
those poor children now? From what I heard, the poor lil 'uns have
a worse time of things than Gary Coleman in several bad early 80s
movies..sigh, to do a plot to death... :)
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>:::The following added 1995/01/11 11:37 by SBOWDEN
>:: Mister White / Mister Wolf Resevoir Dogs / Problem Solving
As long as they don't invent some single mastermind who's behind
all these kidnapping plots, I'm content, and uninterrupted in my
personal tranquility.
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>:::The following added 1995/01/11 21:37 by KBUTLER
>:: GOD THE ALMIGHTY
Vonda is a science fiction writer who has had quite a bit of success
with writing in specific universes (for example the Star Trek universe
has seen quite a few books by her.) She is a good author.
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1995/01/20 21:32 by JCORMIER
>:: Cmdr. Robb Connor Operation Popolino-Adelina
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>:::The following added 1995/01/20 23:35 by JCORMIER
>:: Cmdr. Robb Connor Operation Popolino-Adelina
Pentiums melt in your PC, not in your hand.
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>:::The following added 1995/02/05 20:55 by KBUTLER
>:: GOD THE ALMIGHTY
I am a member of the Third Circle and an Imperial Captain!!!!!
Die Rebel Scum!
Long live the Emperor
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1995/03/19 19:04 by JCORMIER
>:: Lt. Cmdr. Raphael Santayana Chief Engineer, USS Odyssey
Sad news:
According to an interview with George Lucas on Entertainment Tonight,
the next Star Wars Movie will not be until
1998
or
1999
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>:::The following added 1995/03/20 19:33 by JHILVERS
>:: Lt. Kari Nichols Perky, Quirky Councellor At Large
Yes, but in the meantime, he will be re-releasing the original Star
Wars the way he really wanted it to be, with a lot of extra footage
and smoother effects. I can wait. :)
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>:::The following added 1995/03/20 19:34 by SJOHNSON
>:: Marvin Minskey Big Dork
Anybody know if the old (c. early 1980s) Star Wars cards are
worth anything?
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/03/20 19:42 by JCORMIER
>:: Lt. Cmdr. Raphael Santayana Chief Engineer, USS Odyssey
If I can find my book on Star Wars stuff in the Poole People's Room,
I'll check.
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>:::The following added 1995/03/21 00:03 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett mainframe addict
Please post when you find out. (I have a few of those cards laying
around my room at home somewhere...) :)
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>:::The following added 1995/03/21 19:05 by SJOHNSON
>:: John McClane counterterrorism
As a general note, most of mine are Empires cards, though I do
have a number of Star Wars and even a few Jedi ones. I would guess
the are around '80-'85 or so datewise.
On a related note: I also have some batman original series cards
(you know, adam west) printed in 1966. Any ideas?
DM
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(Utterly unrelated, but neat):
> when vader first meets with the emperor on the death star, he says, "as
> you wish, my master" and my roommate turns to me and says, "and the
> emperor realized that when vader said 'as you wish,' he really meant,
> 'i love you.'"
"Hello, my name is Luke Skywalker. You ARE my father. Prepare to die!"
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>:::The following added 1995/04/04 11:03 by SBOWDEN
>:: John Roughlife Roughing It
HA! HAAAAAA!
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>:::The following added 1995/04/04 11:20 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett mainframe addict
What Fathom said.
That was great.
However, I just can't see Mark Hamill as an equal to Mandy Patinkin
in any way. Sorry.
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>:::The following added 1995/04/11 22:03 by MFRANKLIN
>:: Ghost of Papa Smurf Financial Aid Roadkill
I heard on the raido yesterday that Badboys was the #1 grossing movie
last week...What's this have to do with Star Wars? Well, at the same
time, I heard that Forrest Gump was the 5th or 6th grossing movie last
week, and that it had now surpassed Star Wars in the total earned at
movie theaters...Yes, that's right! Forrest Gump has the third-hightest
income in movie history...it pushed Star Wars back to 4th...Hehehehehe
Jason...what's that? I couldn't quite hear what you said... :)
-PS
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>:::The following added 1995/04/12 00:21 by SBOWDEN
>:: Baybee of "Star Spangled Spandex" Glam Rock Revival
Don't worry. In a few years, SW will SKYROCKET!
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>:::The following added 1995/04/12 09:42 by JCORMIER
>:: LCDR Raphael Santayana Chief Engineer, USS Odyssey
That it will.
And no, Steve, you didn't hear me cursing under my breath, and there
certainly weren't any muffled tears...
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>:::The following added 1995/04/12 19:02 by SJOHNSON
>:: LT.CMDR. James E. McClane Chief Security Officer, USS Oddessy
and of course there was no....oh, nevermind.
dm
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>:::The following added 1995/07/11 15:07 by JCORMIER
>:: Dan Rather Bozo's Love Child
Reviews of SW books read thus far over the summer:
The Courtship of Princess Leia: Good story, if slow to develop. Flows
like an rpg adventure. Major discrepancy: Wolverton refers, on more
than one occasion to the BLUE glow of Luke's lightsaber. In this
time period, Luke's saber is GREEN! Rating **1/2
Han Solo at Stars' End: Takes place 5 years before SW:ANH. Written in
1979, the book's characterization of Solo at this point in his life
is highly accurate. Good story, but a bit implausible at times.
Rating: **1/2
Ambush at Corellia; (Book 1 of the Corellian Trilogy): Taking place
14 years after RotJ and a few years after the final defeat of the
Empire, this book is highly engrossing and moves at a lightning pace.
Rating: ***
Assault at Selonia (Book 2): reading it now.
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>:::The following added 1995/07/18 15:21 by JCORMIER
>:: Dan Rather Bozo's Love Child
Assault at Selonia rates very well ***. I don't wanna wait until
OCTOBER to find out how it ends, dammit!
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>:::The following added 1995/08/03 18:44 by MWACHTER
>:: Mr. Otaku-san Yes, I'm addicted to Anime!!!
Hey.....guess what? I just got a copy of the Gunbuster CD and boy,
does it sound alot like Star Wars :) Some of the orchestrated music
is unreal and sounds like it came out of the trilogy or something...
well, just thought I'd share that with everyone :) See ya!!
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GUNBUSTER 3-----> /// || \\\
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>:::The following added 1995/09/24 21:09 by SJOHNSON
>:: Milk - Carton of Hate Cheese - Wedge of Spite
during the filming of "A Man Called Bond" we watched the first
two and part of the 3rd Star Wars Movie remastered tapes.
Looks good for the most part, but a lot of the cleaning up
made the models look VERY much like models. The potato in
the asteroid belt was pretty clear though. (I missed the
sneaker, unfortunately).
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/09/25 01:22 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
These versions do not HAVE the brushed up special effects. They have
improved sound quality (THX).
I don't think they look like models. I tend to notice obvious
computer-made things, however.
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>:::The following added 1995/09/25 02:27 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
And tell me about this potato in the asteroid field...haven't heard
about this one.
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>:::The following added 1995/09/25 13:37 by SJOHNSON
>:: Milk - Carton of Hate Cheese - Wedge of Spite
apparently it was really late when they were filming
that scene...somebody chucked a potato into the asteroid
belt.
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/10/04 02:12 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Watched the Star Wars Holiday Special tonight.
IT
SUCKED
!!
The animated sequence it had was good, but the whole Wookiee Life Day
bit was tedious, badly done, and tried to do too much with the pitiful
"special effects" it had.
It was good for a laugh, though. Very MST3k-able.
JC
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>:::The following added 1995/10/04 12:51 by MWACHTER
>:: Dr. Ono Tofu Yes, I'm addicted to Anime!!!
Yes....I agree with Mr. Wildrose :)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/07 16:33 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.
It's from some unknown person on r.a.s.s-m (the new, improved version
of the old r.a.s.s.) And we thought Tussey was no longer online...
Star Wars is a symbollic story of the restoration of the white male
heterosexual power structure over the "other."
Darth Vader, a towering dark phallus (think "Dark Invader"),
captures Princess Leia (a fertile white woman). It's up to young Luke to
prove his virility among the boys club of Han Solo (solo, as in
masturbation), Chewbacca, Obiwan, and the shining gold phallus
of C-3PO, by getting back the princess from the non-white captor and
reasserting his dominance.
The final battle is obviously a struggle for sexual domination. Luke
is flying his X-wing down a trench, trying to reach the point
when he could fire his "load" thus sybollically "fertilizing" the egg-
shaped "Death Star", winning a victory for heterosexual sex (watch
Luke's expression has he fires those Proton torpedoes. Orgasmic? I'll
say.).Meanwhile Darth Vader, coming up from behind, is obviously
symbollically trying to make Luke his submissive sexual partner ("I'm on
the leader"). It's up to Han to put old Darth in the submissive position,
thus freeing Luke to finally assert his manhood.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 19:02 by SBOWDEN
>:: He-Lion-O-Man By the Power of Greyskull, Thundercats, Ho!
I'd laugh out loud, but I can't, cause this is a conference...
Still, it's a valid (if somewhat over-serious and PC) interpretation.
The elements ARE there. They just probably don't mean what
whassisface says.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 20:56 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Well, George Lucas never meant it that way...what makes that a valid
interpretation?
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 21:25 by SBOWDEN
>:: Shakespearean Punk (As in whore, not Green Day!)
Leighton, please explain "interpretation" to our science boy.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 22:03 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Are you saying that whatever the viewer "interprets" it to be is a valid
interpretation?
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 22:17 by SBOWDEN
>:: Shakespearean Punk (As in whore, not Green Day!)
If the information backs it up, yes.
Interpretation has nothing to do with
authorial intent.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 22:27 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
So, you're saying, then, that it's perfectly alright to disregard G.
Lucas' vision of an epic about the triumph of the human spirit over the
scourge of a technocracy gone berserk, or Mark Twain's denial of
symbolism in print at the beginning of his book if you can find some-
thing that for you constitutes evidence?
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 22:28 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
(Nice iambic pentameter, btw.)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 23:26 by LCONNOR
>:: Dynamo Man Defender of Goodness
Yes.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/08 23:55 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
Yes, that's why it's called an "interpretation"....you can never truly
know what the creator truly meant in her creation, even if she tells
you, simply because "meanings are in people, not symbols." That's
quoted because it's one of the basic precepts in communication
theory. Even if the person tells you, that person could mean something
completely different in his word choice than you construe it to mean.
Thus, a person must decide individually what is meant by a story.
Although it is perfectly valid to look at what the creator has said
is meant, it isn't necessary to do so in order to have your own
interpretation.
BTW, I don't agree with C-3P0 as being part of the "club" as the
person Jason quoted believes. Actually, following the same interpret-
ation, C-3P0 would be representative of homosexuality, and its
ineffectiveness within the set of true white maledom....C-3P0 always
come across as very effeminate, and almost always as a bungler...the
only time that he is of any real service (saves them in Jedi), he
must be manipulated and guided by the now masculine Luke, since his
homosexuality makes him ineffective in a true man's world.
Jason
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 00:26 by SJOHNSON
>:: Steve Dirty Rotten Pricks of America
I think it was actually showing the triumph of homosexuality,
as LUKE SKYWALKER IS A FAGGOT!
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 01:03 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Umm...well, if you watch the movies, Steve, you notice that in ANH (i.e.
before Luke knows that Leia is his sister) he is very obviously
infatuated with Leia. This would imply that he is not purely homosexual
(or, as you so..erm..sensitively put it, "a faggot"), but is, at a
minimum, bisexual, if not purely heterosexual. Having clarified that..
I would contend that "forming your own interpretation" about a work that
is in diametric opposition to what the author had intended is, in effect
a disrespect to the author. In the above interpretation of Lucas' piece
, the interpreter has completely ignored the message that George Lucas
has put forward and has chosen his own message. Those that find symbol-
ism and deep meaning in Huckleberry Finn, despite the fact that it is a
book written for the express purpose of entertainment, with the explicit
statement as such by the author, are serving notice that what Mark Twain
has given to them, as a part of himself, is not good enough for them.
Yes, I am aware that I have taken the point to an extreme, and that
there is some degree of truth to the arguments put forth by Scott and
Jason. However, by going to my extreme, I hope that I have shown the
ridiculousness of the idea that every interpretation is right in its
own way and should not be considered ridiculous, which is what I consid-
er the interpretation of our unknown correspondent to be.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 01:07 by SJOHNSON
>:: Steve Dirty Rotten Pricks of America
I don't care if he was heterosexual, Luke Skywalker is still
a faggot.
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 07:27 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
The trouble that I find, Jason, is that you seem to have dismissed the
majority of what I have posted. If you will recall, my contention is
that you CANNOT know what a creator intends with his creation, even if
he explicitly states what was intended. For a more local example,
consider our discussions on the Love file. Although all of us are
trying to be as explict as possible in our discussions, we run into
trouble, because the meaning of Love is not in the word, or the symbols
associated with it, but the PEOPLE who look at those symbols. It is
their interpretation, and the conflicts with those interpretations that
allow discussion and expansion of the mind.
Also, I'm not sure how you show us how ridiculous extreme interpretation
is from your last post. Actually, to me it shows the opposite; ob-
viously, the writer of the interpretation was successful in preserving
the intellectual value of interpretation....we're discussing the topic
fairly well at the moment. And, remember, the point behind interp has
nothing to do with respect or disrespect toward the author...in fact,
I would contend that the author has nothing to do with it initially.
An interpretation is for the expansion of knowledge within one's own
paradigm....ie, what does this story mean to ME. No matter what the
author may have intended, the story means nothing until YOU decide
what it means. If you choose to bring in what you think the creator
meant into making that interpretation, that is perfectly all right,
but that doesn't occur until YOU choose to do so. To Mark Twain,
Huck Finn was a story to share with the world...my interpretation of
his "this is just a story, leave it at that" attitude was that he
didn't want to impose his own paradigm onto people's interpretation
of the story....a commendable action on his part.
So, my opinion of the interpretation posted earlier remains the same...
it is perfectly legit, tho I don't necessarily buy into it much.
Oh, and Steve, Luke wasn't a faggot, he was a whiny, snot-nosed little
punk (well, in the first movie, anyway).
Jason
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 11:47 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
*nod* Your second post makes a lot more sense. Nice sense of irony
you have there :) Like I said, I think that the interpretation of
any work should be left up to the individual to some extent, I think
our disagreement is about how much.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 12:19 by SBOWDEN
>:: Shakespearean Punk (As in whore, not Green Day!)
well the author is involved in it to this extent:
(i now borrow from my wife's notes:)
SW is not about the invasion of the galaxy by the Mushroom People,
and any interpretation of it as such is thereby invalid. Lucas
simply didn't provide the 'stuff' it would take to make such
an interpretation.
The author-creator-etc. of a work has divine providence over
WHAT GOES IN.
The reader-viewer-etc. of a work has complete power over
WHAT COMES OUT.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 13:31 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
Wait, there WEREN'T Mushroom People in Star Wars? What WAS Darth,
anyway? Oh well....
Jason
the disillusioned
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 14:25 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Take heart, JW...we've never established just what exactly Yoda is...
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 15:25 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
But, no, I remember them now..all the little white guys with big
black spots on their caps, and that really tall black 'shroom
with the psychedelic powers, yeah, it WAS the Mushroom People, I
knew it!
Jason
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 19:46 by KBUTLER
>:: WINNIE THE POOH A BEAR OF VERY LITTLE BRAIN
Been visiting your parents again Jason???
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 21:58 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
Hey now...they've never tried THAT....I don't think....*shrug*
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>:::The following added 1995/10/09 22:26 by SBOWDEN
>:: Shakespearean Punk (As in whore, not Green Day!)
Yeah, really, Kev! Y'know how rare SHIT is in this part
of the world.....
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>:::The following added 1995/10/18 11:46 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
"The great use of life is to spend it on something
that will outlast it." -- William James
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>:::The following added 1995/10/23 01:45 by KBUTLER
>:: WINNIE THE POOH A BEAR OF VERY LITTLE BRAIN
Bec got the digitally remastered Trilogy. I am eternally disappointed
that Lucas didn't care enough to insist that it be Letterboxed.
I was thinking that it would be nice to try and view the movie and see
it as the first audiences did. No Star Wars hype, no preconceived ideas
or beliefs. Then I realized that this movie really pervades our culture
a lot. It is impossible to watch the movie without preconceived notions
today.
(Especially if you have seen Spaceballs
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1995/10/23 02:35 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
I agree. Of course, I've been saying that Star Wars is the American
Epic Myth since I got here...
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>:::The following added 1995/10/23 03:16 by KBUTLER
>:: WINNIE THE POOH A BEAR OF VERY LITTLE BRAIN
Not the American Myth, an American Myth.
I think much the same thing can be said for Indiana Jones and definitely
for Star Trek. It is never the same as it originally was.
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1995/10/23 22:34 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
I will now ask Kevin (and anyone else that cares to respond) if there
is an American Myth, if so, what is it, and if not, will there ever
be one?
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 03:39 by LCONNOR
>:: Basil Cecil's Long Lost Cousin
Santa Claus is a modern myth, though he appears in other countries
under other names. . .I don't know. . .is the American incarnation
significantly different from Father Christmas?
Superman and his kin are American Mythical Characters, but they don't
really have stories per se. . .I mean, they're gods without myths.
I can clarify that when I'm conscious.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 12:21 by MWACHTER
>:: Dr. Ono Tofu Yes, I'm addicted to Anime!!!
WHAT??!! Santa Claus isn't....r....r.real??!! *POUT CRY* :~(
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 18:08 by SJOHNSON
>:: Mike Danger Right Place, Wrong Century
American Myth?---How about the American Dream?
I rest my case.
DM
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 18:20 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Good point about the American Dream. Any literary work (book, film
or whatever), that would fit the bill??
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 18:27 by SBOWDEN
>:: Brother Damnedtohell Monastery of Victorian Literature
I could have SWORN I had something to say, but
the magic PF10 button erased me....
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 20:34 by MWACHTER
>:: Dr. Ono Tofu Yes, I'm addicted to Anime!!!
Cormier, have you seen Blade Runner yet?? hmmmm???? =)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/24 21:27 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
Haven't seen that one either.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 09:16 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett guilt receptacle for the world
How did you get through Freshman Studies WITHOUT seeing Blade Runner?
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 09:16 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett guilt receptacle for the world
See it. It's a wonderful work.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 09:25 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
Jason didn't take Freshman Studies, as he's usually quite joyful
to point out. :)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 12:25 by LCONNOR
>:: Basil Cecil's Long Lost Cousin
Blade Runner (director's cut) is definately one of the Top Five sci-fi
movies ever, and also a damn fine movie on any other scale.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 13:27 by JCORMIER
>:: Reynard Corbeau The Fox
(Jason joyfully points out that he has not had Freshman Studies.)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 15:01 by SCARRICO
>:: Skippie "Fire Fire" McDugal Pyromaniacs-R-US
(Steve vigorusly tries to gnaw his arm off)
:)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/25 15:24 by JWHISMAN
>:: -
(Whisman rolls on the floor laughing, an interesting sight, to be sure)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 11:25 by RTRIMBLE
>:: WORSHIP THE GREAT 8-BALL FEAR IT'S ULTIMATE POWER!
(Ryan wonders why everyone is writing is parenthesis. Cool new fad or
is everyone a bunch of fucking dorks?)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 11:38 by SCARRICO
>:: Skippie "Fire Fire" McDugal Pyromaniacs-R-US
(Actually, the parenthesis are just a small test of our power to alter
and control the minds of others...After being subjected to just one
or two posts in parenthesis, the minds of those we control are forced
to give in and follow suit...just a little something me and Cormier
have been working on)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 12:02 by JCORMIER
>:: The Drag Queen Formerly Known As Goatchick
(Sh...we don't want that getting out until it's too late...)
(JC)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 12:33 by LCONNOR
>:: Basil Cecil's Long Lost Cousin
And I thought that the parentheses represented actions as opposed
to statements, as in (slap Cormier's face) or (laugh maniacally).
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 13:03 by SBOWDEN
>:: Father Repression Monastery of Victorian Literature
(masturbating with wild abandon) I think that Dune is a purty
freakin' fine flick. Just a reminder. Never forget Dune!
It was a dusty day when the Mexicans attacked! We lined
up, primed out pans, and.....
oops, that's the Alamo.
Anyhooters (falling to bloody bits {unrelated to wild masturbation}),
I didn't care much for Blade Runner, but attaching something to a
classroom tends to do that to me.
Maybe the D. Cut is better? Maybe I should see it? Maybe somebody
has it? (inquiring)
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 14:52 by JCORMIER
>:: The Drag Queen Formerly Known As Goatchick
If somebody decides to show it, let me know.
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 16:04 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett guilt receptacle for the world
I don't know if anyone has the director's cut, but ask Carter about
watching it if you're interested in the generic non-director's cut...
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 16:08 by MWACHTER
>:: Dr. Ono Tofu Yes, I'm addicted to Anime!!!
I will rent the director's cut if anyone would like to see it....
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>:::The following added 1995/10/26 17:25 by SJOHNSON
>:: Mike Danger Right Place, Wrong Century
I've got the extra footage but not directors cut....still
has bad narration, which has some merits.
((by the way, Steve, you think you're the first to discover
this?)---see my post on the register file(or whatever
the hell it is))))))))))
DM
)
The Force will be with you. Always.
--Obi Wan Kenobi
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>:::The following added 1995/12/05 18:53 by SJOHNSON
>:: Satan Clause Screw the Milk...I WANT BEER
I think that I realized the other night the reason I'm not
quite as enamored of the trilogy as most folks.
First, some background:
I grew up in Ballard County, KY. No movie theaters, no McDonalds,
No Hardees, not even Pappa Johns.
When I was young, my family made the 30-mile trek to Paducah
maybe once every month or two (Usually for school clothes,
Christmas presents, etc)
At the time, Paducah had between one and two movie theaters
(can't remember when the one downtown closed up). Each had
two screens.
Even when we went to Paducah, we only saw a movie about once
every three times. It was not until I was in high school that
I regularly saw movies. Here is a fairly complete list of movies
I saw when I was a child: Lady & the Tramp, Fox& the Hound,
Aristocats, the Blues Brothers, Romancing the Stone, The Electric
Horseman, The Jerk, Hopscotch (w/ Walter Mathau), The Man With
One Red Shoe,ET. (btw: I mean when they were released--I saw lots
on TV, even though we didn't have cable)
My family got a VCR when I was in about 8th grade, so I finally
saw some movies like Raiders of the Lost Arc, Nightmare on
Elm Street, etc.
Now to the point of the whole thing: I have never seen any
of the Star Wars movies on the big screen. I saw Star Wars
and MAYBE Empire on network TV. I saw Jedi a few years after
it was released on video. I never saw them all (at once, at least--
like I say, I'm not sure about Empire) until I was a freshman or
sophomore at Transy. All I really knew was the little I could
remember from TV and what I learned from my friends who had
the action figures.
So, I never saw Star Wars as a child. Therefore, I don't
remember it as a wonderful experience from my past. I never
experienced the wonder most children probably get from
watching it. So, when I first saw all three together, I didn't
watch them with that same sense of amazement that most of you
all did. I saw fairly shoddy special effects, inconsistancies,
and all the other things we all see when we watch movies now.
(I also saw a VERY blatant Hero's Journey--I knew my Campbell
by then) Without the memories, they're not really that great.
Sure, it's a good way to waste a few hours, but I've just never
been able to get into them as much as most folks.
And as for Luke...watch the movies again and notice: He
NEVER had an idea during the whole series (maybe the thing
at the beginning of Jedi, but that's not for sure). He just
went around doing whatever people told him to (even the
whole leaving Yoda thing seems to really be a Jedi Mind
Trick of some sort). His only quality seemed to be that
he was the hero. Big deal! The only character that I found
really interesting was Solo. He at least had a past, goals,
feelings, and a brain. (okay, he was a fairly stereotypical
rogue with a heart of gold, but he was still more interesting
than most of the other characters).
So, now you all see why I am a Han Solo fan, not a Star Wars fan.
DM
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>:::The following added 1996/01/08 16:49 by JCORMIER
>:: Capt. Crix Wildrose Omega Squad XO, Die Droids Die
I got the following SW books for Christmas
The Crystal Star, Children of the Jedi--(Can't review books I haven't
read yet)
Tales From The Cantina: Compilation of short stories about those in the
cantina that fateful day in Mos Eisley...good stories, in general,
particularly the Bounty Hunter's Tale (about Greedo), the Lovers' Tale
(about characters whose names escape me), and especially One Last Night
In The Cantina, about the wolfman and his once and future wife. This
last one brought tears to my eyes.
Tales From Jabba's Palace: Similar to above. Good as well, intricately
tied-in with one another. Bib Fortuna's Tale and Boba Fett's Tale are
the two best.
The above were edited and compiled by Kevin J. Anderson. I also read
the follwing:
Showdown At Centerpoint, by Roger MacBride Allen--Book 3 of the Corel-
lian Trilogy. I'd been waiting since July to find out how it ended.
Good, but not quite as good as the other two. Overall though, I'd put
the Corellian Trilogy as the equal of the Zahn Trilogy.
The Empire Strikes Back novelization, by Donald Glut--Good, but not
as good as the other two novelizations. Highlights include more Jedi
training than was in the movie and the carbon freezing scene, which
nearly brought tears to my eyes.
Return of the Jedi novelization, by Richard Kahn--Excellent. Takes
you inside the minds of the characters and gives you insights (for
example, Vader intended to eventually kill the Emperor and assume his
position as ruler of the galaxy). Highlights include the Imperial that
tells Vader he can't see the Emperor...and LIVES, and the near-destruct-
ion of Endor.
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>:::The following added 1996/01/08 18:59 by KBUTLER
>:: Karl Striker, B.A., M.A., R.I.P. Ex-Anti-terrorist/Ex-pyschotic
Tears come easily to your eyes.
Kevin
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>:::The following added 1996/01/08 19:33 by JCORMIER
>:: Capt. Crix Wildrose Omega Squad XO, Die Droids Die
(sniff sniff)
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>:::The following added 1996/01/09 00:15 by TSHOCKLEY
>:: Scarlett just another pretty face
One question, JC: does one have to be a fanatic of your caliber to
enjoy the "Tales" books, or can they stand on their own, apart from
the movies' framework?
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>:::The following added 1996/01/09 06:34 by JCORMIER
>:: Capt. Crix Wildrose Confusion
Fan of my caliber? What caliber is that, exactly? I've always thought
of myself as a .38, or maybe a .45 on a particularly good day.
Anyhow, it would help to have at least SEEN the movies in order to know
what the references refer to, and to know who some of the entities are,
but they could stand alone.
JC,
Who really shouldn't be up this late (early)
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>:::The following added 1996/01/11 18:19 by JCORMIER
>:: Capt. Crix Wildrose Confusion
Just when you thought it was safe, along comes someone ELSE who
really, REALLY needs to get a date:
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From: kamamer@ionews.io.org (karl mamer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc
Subject: SW = coming to terms with homosexuality
Date: 11 Jan 1996 16:27:51 -0500
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What I find amazing is how Star Wars fans miss the entire point
of Star Wars. It is clearly an allegorical tale of a young man
coming to terms with his homosexuality.
Here's the concept: Luke subconsciously realizes he's gay yet he
cannot come to terms with his sexual orientation.
The Symbols:
* Luke lives on a desert world. The dry planet is symbolic of an
unlubricated, unaroused vagina. Try as he might, he cannot escape,
e.g. arouse, that vagina. The locals (the straights) spend all
their time trying to draw out the moisture. Luke is not
at all interested in this activity.
* Luke surrounds himself with phallic symbols: lightsabers, X-wings
(take a look at the front of an X-wing, it's clearly the head
of a penis), moisture vaperators, R2 Units, & blasters.
* Stormtroopers are clearly sperm. The sperm have clearly
penetrated the Death Star, which is symbolic of the woman's
egg. Luke destroys the egg.
* Luke accepts his lightsaber (e.g. takes a penis) from an older
sexual mentor (Ben, a sailor). Luke, captured by the egg,
requires Ben to release him from the egg's grip.
* The Force is a reference to the force one requires to
achieve anal penetration.
* "Let go, Luke" is clearly a reference to relaxing the
muscles to allow anal penetration.
* No pilot looks forward to launching their torpedoes
against the exhaust port or the "chute". Luke can't
wait to send his torpedo up the chute.
* Luke fights against wedge-shaped Star Destroyers. The disparagingly
term "cunt" is related to the term "cuneate" which is defined as
"Wedge-shaped. Used especially to describe a leaf or petal base
that is narrowly triangular." Again, vaginal symbolism Luke
attempts to rebel against.
* Luke sends Wedge away.
* Luke is enamored with a swarthy, dark-haired, older man with a
moustache and a phallic name like Biggs.
* Luke's sole female attraction is Leia. Unable to consummate a
relationship with her, instead of admitting he's gay, Luke spins
a fantasy that she's his sister, thereby absolving him of
the need to confront his sexuality.
* Vader is Luke's unrealized sexuality personified. Again,
Vader's helmet is clearly styled after the head of a penis.
* Luke is constantly told Vader (homosexuality) is evil, yet
in the back of his mind he can't help but realize there
is some good in homosexuality.
* Luke's vision in the tree (another phallic symbol)
is a symbolic castration.
* With Luke's first encounter with homosexuality (Vader)
he discovers homosexuality "runs in the family". It is
his destiny. His right hand (his masturbation hand) is
lopped off. His "safe" method of sexual release has been
cut off. He now must make a choice. Luke, at this point,
cannot accept his homosexuality and plunges headlong
into the airshaft (the airshaft is vaginal symbolism).
* After Luke's first "encounter" is drawn to repeat
the experience. His final confrontation and acceptance
of his homosexuality naturally takes place at the point
of a phallic symbol (the Emperor's tower).
--
Just so you know, I'm a tower of impenetrable evil.
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>:::The following added 1996/03/06 18:50 by JCORMIER
>:: Appetite An Ignoble Horse
"Graffiti on the Death Star: Darth Vader sleeps with a teddywookiee!"
--Griffin, from Foothills
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>:::The following added 1996/03/08 13:19 by ACORD
>:: Milk Samson of Hate!
"May divorce be with you."
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>:::The following added 1996/06/17 22:32 by JCORMIER
>:: The First Amendment Free at last
Just for Steve Johnson's benefit:
"Mark Hamil? Who's THAT?"--John Pedro.
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>:::The following added 1996/08/15 22:38 by JCORMIER
>:: Life, Inc. Visit Our New Mars Branch
Caught the last half hour of Empire on USA tonight. Was jarred horribly
when, instead of segueing (sp?) from Artoo getting the door open and the
Falcon escaping into the last of the lightsaber duel, it went from the
escape to...BioSpot flea powder. Jeeezzz....
I think I may have found a blooper that no one else has caught. In the
scene where Luke is sliding down the airshaft after losing his hand, you
can see the wheels of the board that Mark Hamil was riding on during the
filming for a split second.
And, finally, a quote from my mother: "What, they don't rescue Han in
this movie?"
JC
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>:::The following added 1996/08/23 16:33 by JCORMIER
>:: Cerebus An Earth-Pig Born
From _Children of the Jedi_, by Barbara Hambly:
'A most unpleasant people, Gamorreans,' agreed Threepio. . .'Procedures
programs for visiting Gamorr consist of a single line: DO NOT VISIT
GAMORR. Really.'
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>:::The following added 1997/01/06 10:46 by SBOWDEN
>:: Valder Ohmsford, THm KSC - Blowing up the Outside World -
Generation X? That's out of style.
I prefer Generation X-wing. :)
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>:::The following added 1997/01/22 21:20 by SBOWDEN
>:: Princess Lizzie Kitten Clever Feline Interloper!
Thought I'd share this with you...
A friend of mine is planning her wedding. The church won't allow
her to walk down the aisle to 'here comes the bride', so she needed
to find something different. Her fiance hasn't had much input on
wedding ideas, so when he said that he found the perfect music, she
rushed right home. He was beaming as he slipped the tape in. The
music started and sounded kind of familiar. But she screamed NO!
when she realized what he wanted her to walk down the aisle to...
The Imperial March from Star Wars.
This gave me the giggles for the rest of the day.
~liz
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>:::The following added 1997/01/22 22:27 by JCORMIER
>:: Alan Mount Conqueror of Many Peaks
Hehe...kinda makes you wonder about the solidity of their relationship..
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>:::The following added 1997/01/23 10:26 by SCARRICO
>:: Jimmy Timmy's Evil Cousin
Why wouldn't they let her do "here comes the bride?"
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>:::The following added 1997/01/25 09:27 by SBOWDEN
>:: Princess Lizzie Kitten Clever Feline Interloper!
it says something about the groom being a jackass
and as we all know, that is never true
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>:::The following added 1997/01/25 14:43 by SCARRICO
>:: Jimmy Timmy's Evil Cousin
Heh...never knew that. 'Course, never heard all the words before.
Hey, if the groom doesn't mind being called a jackass....
(or, like me, wouldn't have known better anyhoo. ;))
>:::The following added 1997/02/04 17:51 by ACORD
>:: Defenestrator: Laywers, politicians, priests.
IT was truly a wonderful and good film. Except for all the obnoxious
fuckers in line. 9 people cut in front of me. 3 tried and failed. And
maybe even got up in time to get a seat. And GREEDO SHOULDN'T HAVE
FUCKING SHOT FIRST! THAT LOOKED AWFUL!! WRONG!! I DON'T GIVE A
WOMPRAT'S ASS IF LUCAS WROTE IT!! WRONG!!!!
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>:::The following added 1997/02/04 19:18 by JCORMIER
>:: George Lucas In the Company of Homer and Milton
Yeah, they could've done the Greedo scene better (like by leaving it
the way it was). But, other than that, I have nothing but praise
for the Special Edition. The old stuff is clear and sharp and the
sound is great, and the new stuff adds to the old seamlessly.
I was particularly impressed with the Battle of Yavin. They sped
up the ships and made the Rebel armada utterly gorgeous. Some of
the CGI enhanced combat sequences were just amazing. Other impress-
ive things were Mos Eisley (a model, no less), the bazillion storm-
troopers around the corner, and the added shots of the Death Star
and Rebel hangars, which gave more of a sense of scale.
Wow.
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>:::The following added 1997/02/05 09:29 by SBOWDEN
>:: Princess Lizzie Kitten Clever Feline Interloper!
remember that guy who wanted his bride to walk down the aisle
to the imperial march?
my mom liked the idea
maybe it was a good thing the wedding was cancelled.
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>:::The following added 1997/02/07 02:31 by JCORMIER
>:: Join or Scream As Coroner Jim
The top 10 films at the box office from Friday through Sunday:
1. ``Star Wars,'' $36.2 million.
2. ``Jerry Maguire,'' $5.6 million.
3. ``Scream,'' $4.8 million.
4. ``Metro,'' $4.4 million.
5. ``Beverly Hills Ninja,'' $4.3 million.
5. ``Evita,'' $4.3 million.
7. ``In Love and War,'' $3.9 million.
8. ``The Relic,'' $2.9 million.
9. ``Gridlock'd,'' $2.8 million.
10. ``Mother,'' $2.6 million.
10. ``Michael,'' $2.6 million.
) Copyright 1997 The Associated Press
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>:::The following added 1997/02/07 15:52 by JCORMIER
>:: Join or Scream As Coroner Jim
My parents went to see Star Wars last Saturday. My dad was very imp-
ressed. My mother...fell asleep. During the Battle of Yavin, no less.
Her favorite part of the entire Trilogy is when Chewbacca scares the
mouse droid onboard the Death Star.
*sigh*
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>:::The following added 1997/02/08 10:17 by SBOWDEN
>:: Princess Lizzie Kitten Clever Feline Interloper!
oh, come on...
that's a great part!
:)
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>:::The following added 1997/02/09 00:45 by DVANDERMOLEN
>:: Spanish struggler "Un burro sabe mas que me."
Tony and Jason were right about Greedo, it did not work at all. It
didn't even look real since the shot missed by so much. Other than
that, the movie rocked. Espically (most) the added scenes.
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>:::The following added 1997/02/10 17:53 by SCARRICO
>:: Dr. R Tews Wiseman the man who hated middle school
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>:::The following added 1997/02/28 06:22 by JCORMIER
>:: Male Oppressor Pyramids and Pickles
Twin Sister, the Portland Oregon Star Wars Tribute Band, has just
released their first CD. Originally known as Boba Phett, they changed
their name to Twin Sister for obvious legal reasons. On stage the band
member dress up as star wars chatacters (singer = darth vader, drummer =
chewbacca, guitarist = stormtrooper, guitarist = yoda, and bassist =
sandperson).
All the lyrics are taken from the movie, with songs like "Scoundrel",
"You'll Never be a Jawa", and "Slave I". Many lines are direct quotes.
The music is heavy alternative-funk. They toured the country last year
with Sometime Sunday and Sappo, selling their pre release demo (also
available), and now they have a whole album on CD.
Get it at the Refuge Store: http://www.cris.com/~skaught/store.shtml
The pressing was limited, so don't wait to order. They're only $12!
Skaught
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>:::The following added 1997/02/28 06:26 by JCORMIER
>:: Male Oppressor Pyramids and Pickles
According to a Leonard Maltin interview with Lucas that airewd on
Entertainment Tonight (2/14/97), Lucas will be making 6 more movies.
James Earl Jones will play Vader's voice when Anakin becomes Vader in
episode three. In episode one, we will see Anakin as a young boy. Mark
Hamil has been told by Lucas he may have a role as a Obi-Wan like
character in episode nine.
Thrawn
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>:::The following added 1997/03/22 15:30 by JCORMIER
>:: Ignatz O'Toole Minister of Thunderchicken
Tuesday March 11 8:47 AM EST
ARCHERD: More Oscar News, Dead Rapper's Movie Project
By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Bon appetit, Oscar nominees, as you sit down to
lunch at the Beverly Hilton Tuesday and receive your Academy
certificates.
[Tidbit about Carrie Fisher attending pre-Oscar cermonies and writing
lines for her mother, Debbie Reynolds]
While in SanFran, Carrie meets with George Lucas, who is prepping the
prequels to Star Wars. "I get to punch up the dialog," said Carrie. A
14-year-old will play Princess Leia's mother in the first prequel, and
24-year-old mom in the second. Lucas told me he is pulling out all
(technical) stops in the upcoming Wars.
Reuters/Variety
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