Atheist-Christian Debates

28: Points of agreement

It's easy to reject everything an agnostic or atheist says as wrong. Because of this reason, it's hard for us to stop and contemplate whether one or two things they said are at least half truths.

1. Life isn't about "me." We get in lines and traffic jams and have to wait on other people and work for money for a reason. Stuff is happening to our fellow human beings, which causes the delay. If this was a one man show, that kind of thing wouldn't exist.
   • The agnostic says, "We are insignificant and unimportant."
   • The Christian says, "While God finds us important and significant, life is about God, not me."
2. The world and/or universe isn't centered around "me," and is not concerned with serving "me."
   • The agnostic says, "We don't get what we want in life. If mental influence had any effect, I'd be king of the world."
   • The Christian says, "God made us to be his servants. We were not born to be served."
3. There are other people in this world besides "me."
   • The agnostic says, "If God exists, He's probably too busy answering other people's prayers to bother with mine."
   • The Christian says, "God will answer our prayers in His own time, which may be because He's also answering other people's prayers, or our prayers about other people besides ourselves."
4. Solipsism isn't practical. Whether analyzing the idea in terms of Descartes, Plato's cave idea, the Matrix, or quantum theory, it's not useful or convincing in discourse with other human beings.
   • The Christian says, "We live in a God centered universe, and I am not God."
   • The agnostic says, "If I tell you so, will you believe I'm a bunny rabbit? You've never seen me, so you have no proof one way or the other!"
5. Jesus exists, and he died on the cross.
   • Christian: "Jesus was on earth, and was murdered by humanity's desires made into actions. He came back from the dead. He is still alive. He is the son of God. He was sacrificed for our sins."
   • Agnostic: "History has had lots of heroes - regardless of what they are called, or what they themselves thought they were. I do believe Jesus lived and died on the cross. But did that do anything more than establish a myth that continues to change some attitudes (hopefully for the better) - like prove God exists? No."