Fundamentals

 

Question:-

What would you say are the fundamental tenets of a true religion.

Answer:-

From the Islamic point of view, the fundamental Truths on which human life is to based is that:- (1) there is Allah, the self-existing creator of all things; (2) He is one and unique. (3) He alone is to be worshipped; (4) that all things were created for a purpose, (5) He sent Messengers (6) to convey His Word to man in Scriptures containing guidance and (7) we are required to surrender and obey Allah.

Critic:-

According to Christians Jesus does not receive revelations. He is God and speaks from himself.

Comment:-

A study of the NT shows that Jesus did not claim to be God but that he had been sent by God to the Jews and that his doctrines were not his:-

"Jesus answered them and said: My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me." John 7 :15

Also see John 5:19, 24, 30, 7:18, 8:28, and 12:49

Critic:-

He may have said that. However Jesus would have known that to lead Jews to a better covenant, he would have to claim at least equal authority to the prophets who preceded him.

Comment:-

Correct. As Jesus (saw) said, he derived his authority from God just as Moses (saw) did before him and Muhammad (saw) did after him.

Critic:-

We are told in John 10-33

The Jews answered him, "We don't stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself God." Jesus answered them, "Isn't it written in your law, 'I said, you are gods?' If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture can't be broken), do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You blaspheme,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God?' If I don't do the works of my Father, don't believe me. But if I do them, though you don't believe me, believe the works; that you may know and believe that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."

Comment:-

Jesus was quoting Psalms 82:6

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

This has never been interpreted literally as meaning that the Jews were God. But it is referred to in John 1:12-13

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

This is also explained in Romans 8:14

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God."

It is a condition known in Islam as being a Muslim.

Critic:-

The statement, "the Father is in me, and I am in the Father" is significant I think.

Comment:-

This has the same meaning as being in a state of Surrender (Islam).

All men have the spirit of God in them (Quran 32:9) but this is normally dormant (asleep) and needs resurrecting. When it is active as in Jesus and other messengers then they are at-one with God.

Critic:-

From a pantheistic point of view, we are all part of God and God exists within all of us, so Jesus is saying something that is true for all human beings.

Comment:-

This is not quite true.

Firstly, Islam is not pantheistic - There is a difference between the Creator and Creation. The Creator is Eternal while Creation has a beginning and will have an end. However, He surrounds all things and is the fundamental Reality. The Universe may be regarded as a thought in the mind of God. So if Pantheism is defined as the whole of Reality then there might be some justification for this view, but it still cannot refer to the created Universe.

Secondly, though the spirit is in all human beings, it is normally dormant (asleep or even dead in some people). It needs resurrection and this is done through Surrender to Allah, by obedience to the Word of God that comes through the Messengers:-

"O you who believe! Respond unto Allah and His Messenger when He calls you to that which quickens you (makes you alive); and know that Allah comes in between a man and his own heart; and that He it is unto Whom you shall be gathered." Quran 8:24

Critic:-

From the point of view of those who worshipped Jehovah, Jesus would have seemed to be making a unique claim to be Jehovah.

Comment:-

The Jews simply misunderstood him. They might have done so deliberately because they saw him challenging their authority.

Critic:-

But with either interpretation, it would seem that "His" refers to the doctrine of Jesus himself. Jesus can claim it is from the Father, because he reasons "the Father is in me, and I am in the Father".

Comment:-

Must I quote again:-

"Jesus answered them and said: My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me." John 7 :15 Also see John 5:19, 24, 30, 7:18, 8:28, and 12:49

Critic:-

I believe what you say about Jesus emphasising motives is correct. However, Jesus did demonstrate that:

1) It is sometimes permissible to work on the Sabbath.

2) It is not necessary to stone adulterers to death.

3) A person is not defiled by what he puts in his mouth.

Comment:-

Yes, the action is judged by the motive and the action that outwardly seems right or wrong may not conform to the right motive. The motive, however, must be judged by the right knowledge, by truth.

But Jesus also said:-

"Not every one that saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but He THAT DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN. Many will say to me in that Day: Lord, Lord, have we not prophecied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY." Matthew 7:21-23

As for stoning adulterers, the verse where Jesus is supposed to have forgiven the adulteress is a spurious one and has been removed from modern translations of the New Testament. In any case he did not forbid it but asked those who had not sinned to do the stoning and is reported to have said "Go and sin no more." His motive appears to have been to expose the hypocrisy of those who go only by outer acts and are unaware of their own sins. He could not have been contradicting his own statement that not one jot of the Law was to be abolished.

As for defilement, he was probably speaking about the various excretions of the body and also of profanities and abuse that come out of the mouth. He could not have been speaking of poisons that people may take in or of disobeying the law wilfully.

Islam also allows or forgives actions that are contrary to the law that are done in error, or under special circumstances, or when consideration of priorities requires it as long as the intention is correct. e.g.

"But he who is forced by hunger, not inclined wilfully to sin, verily, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." 5:3

Critic:-

You say Jesus was looking forward to the Religion of Truth quoting John 16:12-14.

I feel "Spirit of the Truth" may refer to personal experiences of enlightenment gained through both rational and mystical means.

Comment:-

It might refer to that also.

But the verse makes it clear that it is speaking of a person like himself who "speaks what he hears", as the verse I quoted show you. Do not Christians say that Deuteronomy 18:15,18 refer to Jesus? He would then be like Moses who spoke as he heard. See also John 16:7

"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you."

Note that the Spirit was with him all the time. It descended on him when he was baptised. Luke 3:22-23

Critic:-

You say: Islam is the Religion of Truth. Quran 9:33 says:-

"He is the One who sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, and will make it dominate all religions, in spite of the idol worshipers."

I wonder if "dominate" is a mistranslation here? Jesus said "the truth will make you free", so I would expect that a religion of truth would lead, rather than dominate.

Comment:-

It is a question of how you understand things.

As Islam is the religion sent by God through all the Messengers and is the Word of God that is defined as Truth, then dominate refers to its supercedance over falsehood according to the verse:-

"And say: Truth has come, and falsehood has vanished! Verily, falsehood is ever bound to vanish." 17:81

The following also apply:-

"Religion with Allah is the Surrender. those who formerly received the scriptures differed only after knowledge came to them, through transgression among themselves... and if they argue with thee, say: I have surrendered my purpose to Allah, and so have those who follow me. And say unto those who have received the scriptures and those who read not: Have ye, too, surrendered? If they surrender, then truly they are rightly guided; and if they turn away, then it is thy duty only to convey the message." 3:19-20

"So set thy purpose for Religion as a man upright by nature - the nature framed by Allah in which He hath created man. There is no changing the laws of Allah's creation. That is the right religion, but most men know not." 30:30

"Lo, those who believe, and those who are Jews and Sabaeans and Christians - whosoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve." 5:69

Critic:-

In Islam there is this confused doctrine: Adam repented after he was expelled out of Garden, and God forgave him. Then one must ask: if God forgave him why didn't He admit him back in the Garden? Why do the children of Adam have to suffer the consequence of their forefather's fault and be born on Earth instead the Garden?

If one accepts the story of Adam's Fall one has to accept the doctrine of Original Sin too. One simply entails the other.

Comment:-

Why are you making the assumption or assertion that the Islamic doctrine is confused? Why do you not try to understand it instead? That is a problem of arrogance. This was the sin of Satan who assumed in arrogance that God was wrong in requiring him to bow to Adam.

The point is that God knew man was to sin - He did create Satan.

"And when your Lord said unto the angels: I am about to place a Vicegerent in the earth, they said: Will you place therein one who will do evil therein and shed blood? While we celebrate Thy praise and glorify Thee. Said (Allah): I know what you know not." 2:30

The angels already knew that man would do evil, but God knew something more. Man was created perfect but that perfection consisted of the ability to learn. He was placed on earth to learn. He was forgiven for sinning, disobeying God, but the repentance consists of the striving to learn. 95:4-6

"But Satan made them backslide there from and drove them out from what they were in, and We said: Go down, one of you the enemy of the other, and in the earth there is an abode and a provision for a time. And Adam obtained certain words (revelations) from his Lord, and He relented towards him, for He is the Relenting, the Compassionate. We said: Go down there from altogether and per chance there may come from Me a Guidance, and whoever follows My Guidance, no fear is theirs, nor shall they grieve." 2:36-38

According to the Quran as well as the Bible each person is punished or rewarded according to his own actions and not the actions of someone else.

"He who accepts guidance (or does right), accepts it only for his own soul: and he who errs, errs only against it; nor shall one burdened soul bear the burden of another. Nor would We punish until we had sent a Messenger (with warnings)." 17:15

As you see, you are wrong. The Fall of Adam does not entail the Christian doctrine about Original Sin but on the contrary to punish people for the sins of their ancestor is not justice. It does not take into account the repentance and striving of the individual. The difference lies in this that Christianity contrary to what Jesus taught, teaches that the crucifixion of Jesus leads to salvation whereas Islam, as also taught by Jesus, teaches that salvation is gained by obeying Allah and His Messenger.

As pointed out by James, the brother of Jesus:-

"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" James 2:20

"For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead." James 2:26

But it is probable that what was meant is that Jesus devoted his life to bringing the Word of God to man and was willing to endure persecution in the process. So we are required to accept this sacrifice by accepting the teachings he brought.

Why are people so mentally conditioned by a past doctrine that they become incapable of understanding anything new or formulated in other ways.

Question:-

You have often used the words “degenerate” and “regenerate” about people and communities. These appear to fundamental notions. Can you explain what you mean?

Answer:-

I was writing from an Islamic point of view but using modern Western terms.

A study of the Quran shows that it is about Spiritual Evolution or growth (91:7-10, 3:77, 3:164, 6:99-100, 9:103, 20:76, 22:5, 24:21, 56:61, 62:3, 71:17, 80:3,7, 87:14, 92:18).

That is, it is about the intensification of life (6:123, 8:24, 2:164, 16:65,95, 22:6,66, 41:39 etc.), of the expansion of consciousness, conscience and will. We are required to transfer our attention, interests, and loyalties from all kinds of limited objects, persons, institutions and ideas to the Creator of the Universe; from the narrow concerns of our immediate environment and worldly life to the wider world of the processes of the earth and heavens. Instead of being bound mentally and emotionally to only family and tribe we have to encompass the whole of man kind, and instead of being confined to a small locality we have to become citizens of the world, and even more, instead of attached to all kinds of limiting idols we have to become agents of the creator and the citizens of the Universe with cosmic functions and responsibilities. Instead of adherence to a sect or particular religion or ideology, we recognise that all genuine religions come from God through Messengers He has sent.

But it is also necessary for the expansion of consciousness (for spiritual expansion) to recognise the difference between what is real and what is false, between objective Universal truths, goodness (values and motives) and actions, defined as Sacred or Divine on the one hand and subjective or illusional ones defined as Profane or Satanic on the other. We determine to seek and follow the Divine ones.

Human beings, according to the Quran, contain the Spirit of God (15:29, 32:9,  38:72-73, 50:16. Also see 16:2 and 40:15). But though this has become dormant (95:4-6), the implication is that the potentiality for expansion exists. (2:257, 8:24, 84:19, 89:27-30).

The expansion of consciousness is symbolically described in Quran 6:76-80 where Abraham first worshipped the star, a point of light in the darkness, then the moon and then the sun and finally abandoned all limited created things and turns to the Creator.

This expansion can be also be illustrated by an analogy. Draw a large circle. Name it A. Within it draw a small circle, named U. Within U draw a tiny circle called M, which represents ordinary human consciousness. Within this place a dot D where we have death, the absence of consciousness. The expansion of human consciousness either requires the breaks in the confining circumference of M or the gradual expansion M until it coincides with U and then with A. Think of D as being connected with M and then U and then with A by means of an expanding tube. Then the consciousness of a person could be regarded as being at any point between D and A. The direction towards D is degeneration and the direction towards A is regeneration.

A ………..U………..M…………D

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