Fundamental Question

 

A Critic:-

I have done many readings in theology, be it Catholic or protestant, I have read the Bible, the Torah and the Holy Quran and my honest belief is that Jesus of Nazareth, Muhammad the prophet and Abraham were all group motivators and not as holy as we think.

If God or Allah or any other for that matter, is so powerful and great, WHY would he send a messenger to do his work. The almighty is suppose to be everywhere and knows everything. Why doesn't he manifest himself in person? And why would a GOD ask his believers to commit suicide and kill innocent children? Isn't this like a rebirth of the old Crusades except in the year 2006 to boost the number of followers in a religion?

Comment:-

The trick is to study the scriptures with understanding.

Judging from your questions, you have obviously not studied or understood the scriptures.

God works through all things including people. The Universe is a proof or manifestation of the existence of Allah. The Prophets and Messengers and the human faculties for consciousness, conscience and will are also manifestations.

Critic:-

Considering the widespread belief of Muslims that the Quran is the last book from God for guidance to mankind, it is quite amazing at how vague it is about most of the things it talks about. The most likely explanation of this could be that the Quran was only intended to be a good book of poetry and substance was not it's primary goal.

Comment:-

That is your view and you are not a Muslim. It is not the Muslim view.

The Quran confirms the previous scriptures. Is that vague?

The Quran states that it is not poetry 36:68, 37:36-37.

But the Quran does require pondering and meditating upon and it requires prayer and reading according to the instructions provided in the Quran. This is because it is meant as part of a discipline for spiritual development. Did you follow the instructions as to how it should be read? Did you undertake the discipline? No. Then your views about it are worthless. You have not read the Quran.

Critic:-

But considering this reply all it comes down to is that to appreciate the Quran etc. I need to be a Muslim. Well that is a circular argument that I require no need to reply to.

About it being all my view etc., thank god for free speech, freedom and liberty. God bless the white man

Comment:-

So you are into racialism!! It is prejudices such as these that prevent you from understanding much. Did you not know that White men are also followers of the religions created in the Middle East? Did you not know that all human beings are basically alike and have descended from a single source - Africans according to Anthropologists?

Free Speech has value only if it conveys what is true, good, useful and beautiful. It is harmful if it merely promotes prejudice, lies, futilities, evil and ugliness.

You, like may others, wish to hide behind a "logical" argument about its circularity. But the application of knowledge and reason should have told you that people were originally converted to Islam and are still converted. So it is a question of having some insight.

Know that a Muslim is also defined as one who lives according the nature as made by Allah and that all persons are regarded as inherently Muslim until their faculties have been distorted by conditioning.

Critic:-

People have a innate tendency to ask certain questions, these are mostly condensed to: (1) Where did we come from? (2) Why are we here? And (3) Where are we going? Now considering the content of the Quran, it does not really live up to these expectations. Anyone looking for these answers would be very disappointed with the Quran.

Comment:-

"And when your Lord said unto the angels: I am about to place a Vicegerent (Agent, Successor, Inheritor) in the earth, they said: Will you place therein one who will do evil therein and shed blood? While we celebrate Thy praise and glorify Thee. Said (the Lord): I know what you know not. And He taught Adam the Names (qualities), all of them; then He propounded them to the angels and said: Declare to Me the names of these, if you are truthful." 2:30-31

"They shall say: Allah Who gives speech to all things has given us speech, and He Who created you at first, unto Him you are returning." 41:21

"Verily, we are Allah's and, verily, to Him is our return." 2:156

Critic:-

Am I stupid or is the above self-contradictory. Considering above, the real question is WHY???? WHY does God need to show His awesome power to anyone. If as is asserted He has no need of anyone, so why does He create. The only answer we get in the Quran is that we (humans) were created to worship him. What need does he have of this worship? People say: He doesn't have any need but we need it to gain salvation, heaven etc. My reply is: so why create? We go in circles because there is realistically no answer to this question. We must believe blindly, and hope the Hindus weren't right all the way.

Comment:-

What were the Hindus right about? They have a number of Theories.

As you have noticed it is not Allah who needs our worship but we do. The reason could be found in the following:-

The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said in a Hadith Qudsi:-

"Allah says: I was a hidden treasure. I wished to be known. Therefore, I created the world that I might be known."

I.e. Creation can be regarded as increasing consciousness. Or, in so far as Allah is Reality, creation could be regarded as Allah's Self-consciousness.

One could, of course, like the child continue to ask the question "WHY" ad infinitum, but one is reduced at last to accepting something as a fundamental, something from which the question itself springs - e.g. why do we want to know why? The answer is: We want an explanation. But this consists of relating something needing explanation to something taken for granted, something that cannot be explained in relation to anything else. Why do we eat? We eat to live. Why do we want to live? It is built-in in our existence. We would not be here if this were not so. We take Allah for granted. The ultimate answer to the ultimate question "why" is that the purpose lies in Allah.

The ability to understand the answers to the ultimate questions depends on the degree of spiritual development, of consciousness, conscience and will. If we continue to develop spiritually according to the instructions in the Quran and return to Allah, then no doubt we will know the answer to the ultimate question.

However, it seems fairly obvious that if we are not conscious, then nothing can exist for us, neither the universe nor ourselves. Therefore, existence itself is explained by consciousness of it. It is both the source of the question and the answer.

The answer can also be found in the following verses of the Quran:-

"And when your Lord said unto the angels, "I am about to place a Vicegerent (Agent, Successor, Inheritor) in the earth," they said, "Will you place therein one who will do evil therein and shed blood? While we celebrate Thy praise and glorify Thee." Said (the Lord), "I know what you know not."

"And He taught Adam the Names (qualities), all of them; then He propounded them to the angels and said, "Declare to Me the names of these, if you are truthful." 2:30-31

"Surely, We have created man in the best of moulds. Then We reduced him to the lowest of the low; save those who believe and act right; for theirs is a reward unfailing." 95:4-6

"And the soul and Who fashioned it, and enlightened it with what is wrong and right for it! He indeed is successful who causes it to grow (or purifies it)! And he indeed is a failure who corrupts it! " 91:7-10

"But O, you soul in peace and fulfilment! Return unto your Lord, well pleased and well pleasing unto Him! Enter you amongst My servants, Enter you My Garden (Paradise)!" 89:27-30

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