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To: lpaz-discuss@yahoogroups.com
CC: "Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona" , AZ-RKBA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:47:22 -0700
Subject: RE: [lpaz-discuss] Concealed carry--no permit allowed
The case to which C.D. is referring is State v. Moerman,
182 Ariz. 255, 895 P.2d 1018 (App. 1994). The Court's reasoning is
exactly as C.D. states.
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Cc: Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona; AZ-RKBA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lpaz-discuss] Concealed carry--no permit allowed
On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:56 AM, mike ross wrote:
> now since the documents cite the arizona
> constitutional convention where they voted that the
> state of arizona DOES NOT have the right to
>regulate concealed weapons
> this will cause a heart attack because a jury might look at those
> documents and actually think your innocent.
>
> if you dont give the documents to the arresting cop
> then the documents wont help you. because if you go to
> court the judge will tell you that you cant tell the
> jury about the events that happened at the arizona territorial
> convention.
>
> but any all cases you probably will be convicted in
> the lower court.
>
> in all the case that ricky knows about that has
> happened. but all the cases got thrown out in the
> appeals court. by the prosecutor who didnt want to
> risk getting the concealed weapons laws declared unconstitional.
v
Now let me tell you what you risk by doing this.
Some Arizona court of record since has ruled that the two votes at the
territorial convention against the prohibition of concealed weapons did
not establish a "clear intent" against the prohibition or regulation of
concealed weapons. According to their reasoning, the concealed weapon
issue was not the ONLY change made by the language of each of the
proposed amendments -- therefore, it is impossible to say for sure
whether the representatives were voting solely against the prohibition
of concealed weapons, or whether they were objecting to OTHER language
changed by those amendments.
I did a long search for the exact cite to this ruling, but failed to
find it. Perhaps someone else can give me the reference.
For more info on Ricky Duncans find that
all Arizona Laws regualtion concealed weapons
are unconsititutional see:
- http://www.oocities.org/ashlite_arizona/ib2343erni.html
- http://www.oocities.org/ashlite_arizona/ib2343.html
- http://www.oocities.org/hashish_arizona/conceal.html
- http://www.oocities.org/hashish_arizona/conceal.html
- http://rickyduncan.tripod.com
- http://hashish_arizona.tripod.com/legal.html
- In this case the Maricopa County Recorder refused to file the document!
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