I know most people think they have something to do with electing a president but the reality is - they don’t. Once the FEC (Federal Election Commission) butchered the process - that is, once the controlling powers of the federal government butchered the process - the people were further removed to the extent the Electoral votes are determined well in advance of their election day. Tuesday's reporting will just be a big show.

Whether you know it or not, Electors are supposed to be determined in the November election and, at this stage of the game, who would be president and vice-president would be completely up in the air since no person could know for certain who the Electors were going to be.

There isn’t supposed to be any naming of a ‘running’ mate. The Electoral College determines the vice president only by the person receiving the second most votes whether he be of the same party, or any party, or not. Just another case of a process being FUBARed.

State legislators determine how electors will be elected. Ideally, it would be the people as it would give them a tiny bit of control over the election of the president. But, as you know, this isn’t the case. They, the power controllers, have as is the norm, named (voted for) Electors.

My State, Missouri, has eleven (11) electors. These electors should reflect proportionately the will of the people if the people have let their legislators know their will.

However, this has been changed to whichever elector party comes out with the most votes, then ALL the electoral votes are given to that party’s nominee. At this time, however, by the Constitution, there shouldn’t be any known presidential candidates for certain, only that it seems such and such may be in the running. But, that is by the Constitution, a forgotten document in the nation's capitol (rather the seat of the United States, the federal government).

Now, one will immediately notice that the proper procedure diminishes greatly control by any party or shared control. That is not what the Democrat/Republican coalition wanted so the FEC was created and rules were made (in contradiction to the Constitution and the 12th Amendment) that assured that one of the two major parties would control the office of president.

Of course, they work together on this and the overall goal is to control (oppress) the people of the nation and coerce them into control by the federal government. Experts will deny this as will party members but, regardless, they do work together.

See, before the electors might have voted for Joe Blow that didn’t even have a public office. If some person, say some star or athlete, came out with the most and met the qualifications, then he would be president.

Then, if Sammy Snot Nose received the second most votes, it mattered not a whit whether he even spoke English, had an education, or anything else as long as he met the above qualifications for the presidency. Sammy would be the vice-president.

There is something screwy here concerning qualification. Most people consider them to be: (1) 35 years old; (2) citizen whether natural or not; and (3) a resident for at least 14 years (in the case of a naturalized person).

But, that isn’t exactly what the Constitution gives as qualifications. In discussing this, remember there is the united States of America or, in the Constitution, the STATES.

There is also the tiny geographic area known as the District of Columbia which is the home of the central government established by the Constitution and referred in the Constitution as the United States.

Citizens are normally taken as being a natural born person while residents may be citizens but not necessarily so as these persons may only be living in an area for a period of time.

Aliens may be residents but are not necessarily citizens. Any alien that is naturalized is a naturalized citizen of the United States, not of the State in which he resides UNLESS the area is the District of Columbia with State as defined in 26 USC, Subtitle A, section 7701(a)(10).

In case you missed this, this means the alien can only be a resident citizen of the United States, the federal government. He may only be a resident of one of the 50 States, though.

Okay, here is Clause 5 of Article. II., Section. I. of the Constitution:

“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President, neither shall any Person be eligible to the Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

In the case of the Constitution, “No person except a natural born Citizen,” refers to a person who is natural born within one of the 50 States. So, for a citizen of the 50 States to qualify, he must be at least 35 years old.

But, now we get to “resident” and “Citizen of the United States,”. Here, the term “United States” refers to the District of Columbia as it normally does in the Constitution. If it were the same as the 50 States, then this phrase would have just repeated the first part of the statement.

People won’t like this but the only involvement of the people in the federal government is to elect their Representatives and Senators. Every other position in the federal government is determined by Congress an/or approved by Congress, or been hired and approved by a federal employee. This includes the presidency.

Thus, Clause 5 states a resident in the United States (the District of Columbia) will qualify to be president if he has been a resident for at least 14 years and has been naturalized as a citizen (from the second phrase of the Clause). Thus, a Stalin or Hitler, had he been naturalized and lived in the District of Columbia for 14 years, could have been made president by the powers that control the government.

In other words, a resident of the District of Columbia meaning the United States in this section of the Constitution may qualify to be President of the United States (again the District of Columbia) if he has lived there at least 14 years, is 35, and has been naturalized.

But a resident of the 50 States will not qualify unless he is a natural born citizen at least 35 years old. The reason is States cannot naturalize foreigners - only the Federal government, the United States, can. Any persons who are naturalized are citizens of the United States who might be residents in one of the 50 States. E.g. "I am a resident of Missouri but a citizen of the United States".

So, once again we see the separation between the States of the Union and the federal government known as the United States. This occur throughout law, including jurisdiction and statute application. Now, to continue. As an example, 7 Missouri Electors might have voted for Joe and 4 for someone else. All eleven votes didn’t go to Joe - only the seven did. That way, the 4 votes that were for someone else would be added to that person’s totals in the other State.

If there is a tie for the presidency, then the House representation (not the electors but actual representatives in the House) voted with the representatives from each state voting for one of the two. Providing there is a majority vote and a quorum of States present, then the person with the most votes becomes the President and the person with the next most votes the Vice-President.

If no person had a majority, then again the House (a quorum of at least 2/3’s of the States) would choose the president by vote. The vote would be for one of the highest three (3). Originally this was the top five (5) but Article XII of the Amendments changed this number to the top three(3). Providing a quorum was present, then the person of the top three receiving a majority of the votes would be President.

In other words, .667 of the States would have to be represented or, 34 States. Then, since each State effectively has one vote at this stage of the game, the person who had at least 50 percent of the vote of the States present would be President. Thus, if all 50 States were present, then the person with 26 votes would be president.

NOTE: No where in the Constitution are all the Elector’s votes in a State treated as being for one person unless the electors all voted for the same person. In the case of Missouri, one person would have all the Electoral votes only if all 11 Electors had voted for the same person.

The FEC now has it that if the vote in Missouri was 5 votes for one person, 4 for another, and 2 for a third, that all 11 votes would go for the person with the most. That is NOT constitutional and does not represent the Presidential Electoral vote accurately.

If there is a tie, or a case in which no one receives a majority, and the vote goes to the House of Representatives, then any person who receives the most votes from the Representatives of each State gets that States vote. For example, if a person in the Missouri vote received 7 of the 11 votes, then Missouri’s vote would be for that person.

Here is the process simplified.

The electors are determined by whatever means any State wishes. Electors may NOT be a current Representative or Senator, nor any other person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States (meaning the federal government).

The number of electors will be equal to the number of Representatives and Senators from each State. In example, Missouri has nine (9) Representatives and two (2) Senators (as does every State). Number of electors will be eleven (11) for the State of Missouri.

Total for the nation will be 538, made up of 435 equal to the number of representatives in Congress and 100 made up equal to the number of total Senators for 50 States plus 3 for the District of Columbia. Congress determines the day the Electors are determined and the day they get together to make their choices. This time and day must be the same throughout the nation.

On that day, the Electors vote for any two people they wish to be President, sort of a ‘first' and 'second' choice. There is not any vote for vice-president.

The votes are certified, sealed and sent to the Senate President where the votes are tabulated in front of a convened Congress. Whichever person comes out with the most votes, providing it is a majority, is President. Whichever person comes out with the second most votes is Vice-President.

In the event of a tie, then the vote goes to the House of Representatives. There must be a 2/3 quorum present and a majority to win with each State’s total number of representatives being treated as one vote. In other words, if 5 of 9 representatives for Missouri voted for one person, that person would receive Missouri’s vote in the tie-breaker. If the vote does not break the tie or produce a majority from the quorum, then the vote goes to the Senate.

If no one person has a majority of the votes when the Senate leader opens the sealed certificates and counts the votes, then each State’s Representatives vote for the person of their choice out of the top three (3) (amended from 5 by the 12th Amendment). If one person receives a majority from the State’s representatives (quorum must be present), then the State has one vote for that person.

Although it is not absolutely clear, it would seem that if a majority did not result, then the vote, as with breaking a tie, would go to the Senate.

That is the procedure as stated by the Constitution. Where are primaries discussed? Where does it give some people huge amounts of taxpayer money and not any to others? Where does it establish for the tremendous wastes of money that National Conventions are? Where does it limit to debates only the two major parties? Where does it provide for a potential presidential candidate to name a ‘running mate’ since every citizen of the 50 States or of the District of Columbia who meets the qualifications are candicates? Shoot, where does it provide for “running mate" period?

Actually, who is the drunk who read the Constitution and came up with the FEC to begin with?

If the Constitution were amended concerning the process, the only change should be that the people elect the Electors on the second Tuesday of November in each election year. Then, those Electors must be bound on the initial vote to vote as those who elected them. Each Elector would vote as his constituency wanted, meaning all the Electors would not have to have his vote treated as being for someone he didn’t vote for.

I.e., as from the example, 4 votes for other than Joe Blow would be 4 votes for other persons - Joe would not receive all 11 simply because he had the majority.

As it is working with FEC rules, the two major parties receive the most probable election, particularly since the two major parties determine who the Electors are and, of course, determine who the Electors will vote for.

Plus, there is this. Let’s say a state has 50 Electors and votes 26 for Person A and 24 for Person B. For the election as it is done, all 50 Electoral votes would go to Person A.

At the same time, another state has 11 votes which are cast 4 for Person A and 7 for Person B. All 11 would go for Person B.

Person A would win the election.

However, if done as it is supposed to be, Person A would have received 30 votes (26 plus 4) with Person B having received 31 votes (24 plus 7). Person B would therefore have become President rather than Person A.

To put this on a larger scale, 149 Electoral votes could conceivably determine the President. If the minimum majority of Electors from the States of Ohio, California, New York, Pennsylvania, Florida, Illinois, Texas, New Jersey, North Carolina, Michigan, and Missouri voted for Person A, with all the Electors in other States voting for Person B, Person A would become president because the named States control 270 Electoral votes.

However, if done as the Constitution states, Person B would become President by a land slide as all but 149 Electoral votes would have been for Person B.

The truth is that the actual vote count of Electors that determined the president was no where close to the minimum required (only 27 percent instead of 51 percent) but, because of the majority determining the vote of all Electors in the State, this minority determined who would be President.

Actually, I don’t beleive there are any Electors now. I believe that people have been led to believe they are voting for the person when the truth is they are voting for a “block” of Electoral votes applied to a person.

For instance, if they are stupid enough to vote for Bush in the 2000 election, along with a majority of their State’s citizens doing the same, then the whole of the State’s Electoral votes would go for Bush.

In other words, real, physical human being Electors are not needed. This just totally, absolutely wipes out the means of electing the President and Vice-President.

Just a thought but any laws based on procedures that weren’t constitutional to begin can’t be enforced as laws. Since the Constitution hasn’t been followed for many elections, all rules and laws enforced by any former executive branch are null and void. In other words, a lie cannot make a lie the truth.

Just another way, Folks, that Washington has destroyed the Constitution and lessened the control of the People.