<13 Mar 1999 From: Jill Re Natural Books>

I am trying to start a library of natural care books.  Some of you have suggested some books to me, which are on this list, but I have found some newer books.  Can anyone give advice on any of these newer books. I don't know if I should get the newer ones, or stick with the older ones.  Some of the titles are 5 years old already, so I am leaning towards the recently published ones.  Has anyone seens these newer books?  I have seen Anitra Fraizer's book, but her diet calls for yeast, which I will not use, so I am hoping to find a book with the current proper raw food diet and newer, better remedies.

Natural Cat Care -  Bruce Fogle, Bruce Fogel - Published 1999

Keep Your Cat Healthy the Natural Way ~ Pat Lazarus - Published 1999

Natural Pet Cures : Dog & Cat Care the Natural Way ~ John Heinerman -
Published 1998

Natural Health Care for Your Cat : Quick Self-Help Using Homeopathy and Bach Flowers  -Rudolf Deiser, et al  - Published 1997

Heal Your Cat the Natural Way ~ Richard Allport - Published 1997

The Natural Remedy Book for Dogs & Cats ~ Diane Stein - Published 1994

The Natural Health Cat Care Manual : An Innovative Guide to Keeping Your Cat in the Best of Health, Naturally Don Harper - Published 1994

The New Natural Cat - Anitra Frazier 1990.

Thanks for your time.
Jill

<< than for ourselves. There are so many symptoms that our kitties have  that people don't share. What would you do with a symptom like tail  biting? Or these hairballs? It's normal for cats to lick, but excessive  licking would be a symptom we could use. In people it would be downright<>

That's always been a challenge for sure.  I don't have much faith in US vets b/c here we have allo vets who then undergo training (watching a video or two?) of some sort to study homeopathy.  So if there is such a book written, it will come from the United Kingdom.  I think both Day and MacLeod are British.

The only book that I have been impressed w/ so far (don't think too highly of MacLeod and Day is just so-so) is the one co-authored by a British "homeopathic vet" Dr. Tim Couzens.  It says on the cover that he is only one of 12 homeopathic vets in the country.  It's evident from reading the book that he understands cats and he understands homeopathy. He has a good feel for the remdies and can translate them for use in cats.  There are some brief remedy profiles.  The problem of course is that it's a skinny litte book, and so is rather limited in scope. it deals w/ spraying, aggression, etc.  What would be cool is for him to write a Repertory w/ cat-specific symptoms like hairballs and excessive grooming, licking, etc.

The name of the book if anyone is interested is My Cat is Driving Me Crazy by Grace McHatty and Tim Couzens, FRCVS  It's not easily available in the U.S.  I lucked out and got a brand new one for $3..wow, best $3 I ever spent, man!

Sandy, owned and operated by the mountain cats

Hi all
I saw these book titles posted at
http://www.teddysfreezer.com (on the first page, towards the bottom)

It's Only Natural
G.E. Poesnecker, N.D., D.C.
ISBN 0-916285-30-8

Dangers of Immunization
Harold E. Buttram, M.D.
ISBN 0-916285-27-8

How to Legally Avoid Immunizations of All Kinds
Grace Girdwain
ISBN 0-916285-36-7

Vaccinations and Immune Malfunction
Harold E. Buttram, M.D.
ISBN 0-916285-31-6

--Jean, Saski the Soccer Player & That-Amber

Hi everyone -

<<I read some reviews on Dr. Pitcairn's book, "The Complete Guide to  Natural Health for you Dog and Cat", Celeste Yarnell's book, "Cat Care  Made Natural", and Anita Frazier's "The New Natural Cat"  They all  had great reviews, but I did read where some thought Dr. Pitcairn's  homemade diets had too much grain in them for cats.  Any input?>>

Kathy, I have all three books ('cept my Yarnall book is called "Natural Cat Care"). Here's my rankings and takes on all three

#1 is Anitra Frazier's book. Her nutrition section is a little weak, but her health care stuff is outta this world. She also provides tips on switching cats over, introducing new cats, home health care, how to give medicines, eye/ear/nose drops, etc.... It's also "bigger" than Pitcairn's book AND cat-specific. Her nutrition section deals with percentages, so it's kinda hard for a newbie, but Kathy B, Leah, Sandy and I all have our recipes online at http://www.holisticat.com/rawrecipe.html so you can use those, too.

#2 would be Pitcairn. Since I feed grainless, I think he's outta his gourd with his cat recipes (most people who feed grains even he think he uses too much grain). His health care stuff ain't bad, and he does include homeopathy which Frazier leaves out, but most health care stuff is for dogs and cats, so ya gotta be careful.

In lieu of Pit-man's book, I'd honestly prefer Diane Stein's book "The Natural Remedy Book for Dogs and Cats". Way more detail, and she pulls from several authors (including Pitcairn) for all her health stuff. She also has, IMHO, a "better" nutrition section (read: less grains!)

Last is Yarnall's book. She's very happy with herself, her supplements and fruity stuff (to me, at least). She's grainless, so I like her
nutrition stuff, and she's a breeder, so she knows cats (something I think Pitcairn is lacking) but almost a quarter of her book deals with cats' auras and astrological signs, which sounds kinda wacky to me. I'd skip it, had I only known (I think Sandy even tried to warn me!)

(Shameless plug alert) All of these books can be ordered thru the Holisticat bookstore located at http://www.holisticat.com/carebook.html

<<Any ideas for finding holistice vets in a particular area?>>

Try: http://www.altvetmed.com/ahvmadir.html

Vick and the kitty company: Skippy, Sam, Max and Jezebel

Hi Jane,

<<I finally found a vet for my furbabies that I can deal with.  She seems very open to holistic/natural/alternative methods.>>

If you want to provide a book that gives a good overall look at the *holistic lifestyle* for a pet, Pitcairn's book, Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs & Cats , actually does a good job with that - from chemicals to avoid to the vaccination question to emergency care for pets.  As I mentioned previously, he's also one of the few vets out there currently teaching workshops to help allo vets become more open to holistic methods.  It gives a good overview of many different
aspects, not just diet.   Yes, there's too much grains in his recipes, but for people who at first don't feel comfortable without having precise amounts, his book is helpful in that regard.  Volhard's, The Holistic Guide to a Healthy Dog , also gives some great basic information, especially on vitamins and supplements.

<<one of the vet techs wanted to feed my recipe(the Wellpet recipe of course) to her dog.>>

I 'm not on wellpet right now - what are the ingredients/proportions in the recipe?

<<I promptly suggested she get a copy of Give Your Dog a Bone by Billinghurst.>>

That book is enormously popular right now.   I've read Billinghurst, Pitcairn and Volhard.  I think GYDAB is, however, sometimes a bit confusing as to amounts/adjustments to make in a diet until someone has read another introductory book.  There's no index and although it has a nice bibliography, it's not referenced within the text.  Easy to read - yes, but it wouldn't be the first book I would give to someone to introduce them to a more "holistic" lifestyle for a pet.  That diet advocated in his book is also not an appropriate one for cats.

Leah