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<10 Aug 98 From: Leah  Re: Constipation in crf cat>

Susanne and Sanjay -

I believe Peggy might have already mentioned this, but there's a stool softener treat recipe in Anitra's book:

1 T. baby food vegetables and meat mixture
1/2 tsp. melted butter
1/8 tsp. ground psyllium husks
1/8 tsp. powdered or fine bran
2 T. or more of water ( use your judgement)

As many have mentioned, it's important when they get psyllium to get adequate water intake too.  I used the above for Simon and found it worked well.  It's not as harsh as some other types of things might be and is easier on the system of a crf kitty.
Leah

Phyllida,

If you are trying to make your "own" (better) sci-di a/d you might want to check out the web site:  http://www.allcreatures.com/recipefe.htmI believe the 4th recipe (hypoallergenic) is close to the a/d formula.

***Ed. note: the hypoallergenic recipe is NOT appropriate for a/d --  none of the recipes on that page are versions of a/d***

Kat (New Jersey)

How would you modifiy the recipe if at all for a crf cat?  For Pitcairn's kidney recipe I got out the old Betty Crocker cookbook and 1 1/3 cu (2/3 lbs.) meat is = 21 tablespoons and his recipe is good for 5-6 days of meals.  So I quess you could use approx. 4 tbsp.  per one day serving.

I was going thru his recipes again last nite becaue I can see that Princess Puff (just kidding, she's my baby) is starting to get a more discriminating taste.  Last month when fresh food was new to her, the chicken boiled in water was a treat, now it no longer holds her interest.  I can see she loves liver and that the meats now have to have strong smells.  Also I have been using the boneless skinless chicken breast and I can see you need thighs for the smell and probably like Frazier suggests, the chicken is more enticing to them if it's broiled or baked.

Sandy

<<I'm new to the list and keep adding cats and kittens to my household. >>

Hi Cheri!

<<Is there a good well balanced regiment for the food I can follow? I've  developed my own and it does seem to help but I'm always interested in  new  ideas. >>

I'm really not familiar with feeding cats under the age of 5-6 months. I feed my cats something consisting of approximately 65% muscle meat, 20% organ meat, and 15% veggies as the basic daily menu. I grind whole chickens/rabbits (I saw some guinea hens at Whole Foods that I'm going to try out next) so I don't add bonemeal, but if you're using cuts of meat or pre-ground meat, add 1-2 tablespoons of boneeal.

They also get 1/2 a whole quail 2-3 times a week in place of dinner, and chicken neck pieces a few times a week, depending on how much quail I'm feeding.

What are you feeding now?

Peggy
Hester and Elleander

Sandy and listers -

I'm posting the recipe, but I can tell 'ya the "no grains" people will not like this recipe, especially in proportion to the meat (and you'll barely be able to see the vegetables).  Here goes:

1/2 cup organic ground beef kidney
1/2 cup organic ground chuck
1/2 cup well-cooked brown rice (cook with chicken broth)
1 T. finely grated raw carrot (or carrot powder)
1 tsp. finely chopped wheat grass or sprouts
1 heaping teaspoon bonemeal
1/8 tsp. garlic powder
1/2 teas. blue green algae (optional)

Mix meat and bonemeal together with approximately 1/4 cup of water (to a chili consistency).  In a separate bowl mix rice, carrot, greens, and seasonings together with enough water to make a smooth consistency.  Mix vegetable/grain mixture with meat and place meal size portions on plates. Add supplement of choice and serve.

It does emphasize that the meats should be organic if at all possible.
Leah