"It should have read like a Cinderella success story -
but life at the top of the charts hasn't been a fairy
tale for pop princess Mariah Carey."
New York Post - October, 1997
Despite astounding success - five multiplatinum
albums, 12 No.1 singles and worldwide album sales of
over 80 million - the bestselling female recording
artist of the '90s says she was stifled both
personally and professionally.
But over the past six months, Carey has made moves to
take charge of her life and her music. First came a
split from her husband of four years, Sony chief Tommy
Mottola; then she began to take acting lessons; and
then last month Carey released an album, the
symbolically titled "Butterfly," where she moved away
from her trademark sugary ballads to record with
hip-hoppers Sean "Puffy" Combs and Missy Elliot.
The results so far have been positive. "Butterfly,"
with songs that have a rougher, street edge, has
earned both instant No. 1 status and praise from
critics normally dismissive of Carey's efforts.
In this unusually candid interview, Carey talks about
her music, her marriage, her life and her new-found
independence.
Lisa Robinson: Until this new record, why did you
always appear so uptight about your image?
Mariah Carey: Well, as a 19-year-old starting out, I
was made to feel very nervous. People had very
high expectations about everything I said, or wore, or
the way I did my hair, the way I answered questions,
the types of records that I made - anything that
involved my image. And because of the way I grew
up as a kid, moving around a lot, I always felt like
the rug could be pulled out from under me at any time.
Even though my mother was always there for me, I
always felt different and insecure and a little bit
unstable. I'm a very cautious person, so when
powerful people said things to me, it was very easy to
frighten me into not doing things."
LR: When you say powerful people, do you mean Tommy
(Mottola)?
MC: Well, first of all, I'm not bashing Tommy. I love
Tommy. People just grow up and grow apart and continue
to change. We both changed, it wasn't just me. But I
feel good about myself now, I feel better about myself
than I have in a long time. I feel more comfortable in
my own skin."
"LR: What about the perception that Tommy was your
Svengali?
MC: What people might not know is that before I went
to Sony I had a deal on the table with Warner Bros.,
and other companies were interested in me. But I chose
to go there [to Sony] because he [Mottola] really did
did believe in me as an artist. And look, it didn't
hurt me. I have this career now, and I never want to
appear ungrateful. But I do know that people think I
haven't paid dues, and I have. Prior to making my
first record, my whole life was paying dues. And even
since 1990, I really feel like I've paid a lot of dues
by going in the studio and making a record every
single year."
"LR: Were you trying to be fashionable by working with
hip-hop artists on your new album?
MC: Absolutely not. There were songs on my first demo
that I had liked but didn't make the record because
everybody said it didn't fit. It was considered more
important then for me to get with the big-time
producers and to give me a sound that was
recognizable. It worked, I guess, but in retrospect I
don't think having one song on that album would have
made a difference, and it might have let people seea
different side of me from the get-go.
LR: Was the huge mansion that you both [Mottola] built
in Bedford a fantasy or a prison?
MC: It wasn't a prison, it's a beautiful place. But in
some ways I guess it was a fantasy. I would always
look at friends' houses and things other people had
when I was growing up and feel inferior. My mom and I
never starved, but it was a struggle a lot of times.
People might not realize it but [Tommy and I] built
that house together. We split everything right down
the middle. That house made me feel like I
accomplished something, and it was beautiful, but the
way I'm living now, on my own, feels more appropriate.
LR: You've been reported as having romances with
(Yankee) Derek Jeter, Puffy and a member of the
Fugees. What's the truth?
MC: I swear, these freaking rumors! There was one
... last week about the guy from 98 Degrees - I've
never even met him! Anytime I work with somebody or
meet somebody at a charity event there's a big deal
made about it. All I can say is I'm not with anybody
right now. The Puff Daddy thing is completely,
completely false. We've hung out, we worked together,
but these rumors are totally ridiculous. When I vibe
with someone creatively, usually we become friends.
I've been friends with Da Brat and Boyz II Men, but
nobody saw me hanging out with them at a club so
nobody wrote anything about it.
LR: You're dressing sexier these days; you used to
dress more matronly.
MC: I just feel that I wear what I feel I want to
wear. I'm not considering anybody else's opinion. The
whole thing has been a gradual process that seemed
really necessary for my own emotional well-being.
LR: Do you want to be romantically involved with
someone again - or free for a while?
MC: (Long pause) (Sigh) I want to be free for a while,
but I'm very cautious, and all these rumors don't help
things, because someone might not want to be involved
with all this craziness.
LR: You've said you're not promiscuous.
MC: That really is true, and a lot of it has to do
with things I saw growing up with people who behaved
recklessly - and paid the price for it.
LR: Do you think you were too young when you got married?
MC: I think I always had a fear of marriage because my
parents got divorced when I was 3 or 4 years old. I
never had a vision of what an ideal married couple,
ideal mother-father relationship was. I just had
other friends whose parents were divorced or whose
families fought every night. I never really believed
in the whole thing, so in that sense, I wasn't
emotionally prepared to be married. I didn't really
know what that meant."
Back To The Wind - Mariah Carey