Wild Child  
        Joaquin Phoenix has
        led as unconventional a life as possible. Now he`s a
        raging success in Hollywood. Can talent really conquer
        all? By Edward Sussman
        Joaquin Phoenix is
        standing on a New York City subway platform when a train
        pulls in and the middle doors of the car open before him.
        "No,
        not that one," he
        says. "I
        always ride at the end of the car." He dashes to an end door and gets
        on the train. Then he rejects the open seats. "I don`t like
        to sit," he says.
        Instead he plasters his back against a divider by the
        door. "I
        always stand. Right here." He says this adamantly. Then he grins, just
        a little. It`s hard to tell if he`s kidding. From his
        expression, he appears to be. But with this eccentric
        23-year-old, it`s hard to tell. If Harvard Business
        School prepared case studies on how highly unconventional
        individuals managed to launch successful acting careers,
        Joaquin Phoenix would be the star of the curriculum. You
        may know Phoenix from his performance in To Die For as
        the moronic teenager duped by Nicole Kidman into
        murdering her husband. You may also have seen him in
        Oliver Stone`s U-Turn or Inventing the Abbotts opposite
        his real life girlfriend, Liv Tyler. Or you may know him
        as the  
        younger brother of
        River Phoenix, the gifted actor who died five years ago
        of a heroin-cocaine overdose. Over the next few months,
        you may get to know Phoenix, "Joaq" to his
        friends, more for his roles in Return to Paradise and
        Clay  
        Pigeons, both opposite
        Vince Vaughn, and in 8MM, opposite Nicolas Cage. But the
        Phoenix you get to know in the flesh is more complicated
        than any brief Hollywood bio could possibly suggest. His
        persona begs a question: In a highly competitive field,
        can talent alone overwhelm eccentricity? Dark sunglasses,
        dark clothing, a lit cigarette and sneakers is Phoenix`s
        standard uniform. The sunglasses and muted threads help
        deflect public stares; he hates being watched. The
        cigarettes help contain his manic energy. But even
        chain-smoking, Phoenix rocks and sways, bursting into
        song or tossing out a stream of expletives. The sneakers
        he wears on moral principle. A strict vegan, he doesn`t
        eat meat or dairyŻor wear leather. Raising chickens and
        cows is "a form of slavery," he says.  
        The thing about
        Phoenix is, it`s not easy to tell when he`s kidding
        around because so much of the real stuff he tells you is
        so offbeat. He just gave a substantial sum of money to a
        midwifery school. He was the centerpiece of a print ad
        campaign by Prada, the high-end fashion house, yet he
        refused to wear the company`s leather shoes and belts.
        (Prada took a picture of someone else`s legs with the
        shoes and put the picture next to Phoenix, who was shown
        in a suit.) He swears he can vividly remember the day of
        this third birthday, aboard a freight ship hauling Tonka
        toys from Venezuela to Florida. "The crew
        started pulling up nets with just thousands of fish and
        they`d be flopping on the deck," he says. "In order to
        kill them, they just threw them against the wall,
        which  was utterly shocking."  
        And then there`s the
        reason three-year-old Joaquin was on that ship with his
        brother and sisters: his free-spirited parents lived an
        itinerant life, for a time as members of the Children of
        God cult, traveling around South America,  
        Mexico and the United
        States. Phoenix and his family have lived in old
        ice-cream and UPS trucks. He, River and sisters Rain and
        Summer sometimes performed dance numbers on the streets
        of Los Angeles to raise money for the family.  
        How did Phoenix make
        the leap from this unique background and the
        idiosyncratic person it produced to an individual now
        widely regarded as a top gun among the next wave of
        leading Hollywood actors? The most obvious answer is that
        he plays to his strengths. His characters are more often
        than not quirky and sometimes driven to extremes. In
        Return to Paradise, for example, Phoenix plays an
        American imprisoned in a Third World jail for drug
        possession and facing a death sentence unless two
        American friends return and share the blame and lengthy  
        prison sentences. The
        director suggested Phoenix spend a week in an actual
        prison to prepare for the role. Phoenix was willing, but
        early takes were more than sufficient to prove he could
        already tap into the kind of desperateness and distress
        the role demanded.   
        Phoenix also gives
        credit to Iris Burton, who, since Joaquin was six,
        has  handled his entire family, from River to his
        sisters Rain and Summer, who are also actors. These days,
        Phoenix could easily move to a high-powered Hollywood  
        agency if he wanted
        to, but he prefers to stay with Burton, who has known
        Phoenix so long that she watches out for him like family.
        Idiosyncratic but it works. On the day P.O.V. interviewed
        Phoenix, he rejected three locations before   
        settling on a boulder
        in Central Park. He seemed relieved to be far from the
        downtown restaurant where the interview began, and away
        from crowds and staring eyes.   
        So are you comfortable
        with making a great deal of money as an actor?  
        It`s a
        great job and you work and it`s great. But I do put a lot
        of work into what I do and it consumes my thoughts for
        months, and recovering from that is even more terrible.
        With the work I do, if I feel like I want some
        materialistic item that`s going to make me happier, if
        I`m going to look forward to driving a convertible on the
        weekend, if it makes me feel fabulous, then I`ll do it.
        And I`m not going to think, Well, what about someone
        else? Because I feel better and I`ve been able to express
        desires that I have and I feel good, then I`m going to be
        in the right frame of mind to help someone else
        out.   
        I
        think that you are allowed to spend the ridiculous
        amounts of money that you make on bullshit things that
        don`t really matter just because you want to as long as
        you balance that with giving back, which I think that I
        do. I think about my friend who`s evicted because he
        can`t pay his rent in his apartment and I just tossed out
        $500 for a MiniDisc player because I wanted a MiniDisc
        player so I could record my own music. It`s bizarre. I
        don`t know, it`s all relative. I don`t have the answers.
        I`m just still trying to figure it out.  
        Also, it`s early enough in
        your career that you`re not dealing with huge sums of
        money.  
        Well,
        in comparison to my friend who got evicted, yes, I`m
        filthy stinking rich, and he thinks If I only had that
        I`d be set for life. Well, I look at whatever actor and
        go, "You son of a bitch, if I got paid that for
        every fucking movie I ever made, are you kidding? I`d buy
        a whole city block and set up housing for, you know,
        whatever."  So, it`s all relative and I don`t,
        I don`t make that much money. Right now, really, I`m
        establishing a comfortable home for myself and my family
        and for my nephew and for whatever groups I can donate to
        to help them out, to keep them alive. I`ll do that as
        much as it is realistic. I think that you try the best
        that you can, but we`re all selfish, we all want
        something fabulous for ourselves and want to make it. I
        know people that are like, "I would never do one of
        those Japanese commercials for a million dollars, two
        million dollars." Screw you. Goddamn right I`ll do a
        commercial for two million dollars. Are you high?
        Fucking-A, I will. I`ll do it for two million dollars and
        then what am I going to do tomorrow? I`m going to do
        something good with that money. That`s how I see
        it.   
        But you wouldn`t do a
        McDonald`s commercial.
         
        No,
        you`re right, I wouldn`t do that.  
        How`d your film 8MM, with
        Nicolas Cage, come together?  
        I
        hadn`t seen my agent for a long time, so I went over to
        her place and we were talking about Return to Paradise,
        the fact that it was happening, and trying to figure out
        what to do following that, what would be the best move.
        She said, "I`d like you to do something bigger with
        a studio." I said, "You know, I just want to do
        a good film, whatever may come along." And we`re
        sitting talking and the phone rings and it`s [director]
        Joel Schumacher, who she knows. And she says, "I`m
        sitting here with Joaquin Phoenix." And he goes,
        "Well great, that`s why I`m calling. I have this
        script and I want him to read it and talk a little bit
        about it," and he wanted to meet me. So I went over
        and met him.  
        Are you close to your
        agent as far as her being a career guide?  
        Oh,
        I`ve been with her my whole career. I got with her when I
        was about six years old. My whole family has been with
        her. She was the only agent that took all of us. We went
        to a number of agents that said "OK, we`ll take Rain
        and Summer but we won`t take Liberty, River or
        Joaquin." We didn`t want to be split up. My parents
        wanted us all together and we went in and met her and she
        loved all of us and took us all. She`s just a really
        sweet, great woman who works on her own. Her office is a
        room behind her house. She believes in me and believes
        that I can do anything, so I don`t have to deal with
        package deals and agents going, "Well, Joaquin`s not
        really that type. We see him more as this, but we could
        get so-and-so." You know, at the big agencies I
        think they have these kind  of power meetings. I
        don`t know because I`ve never been there, but this is my
        assumption. They have these meetings where they say,
        "We have this script from this writer and I think
        that so-and-so is the type of part." I mean, I grew
        up with her. She`s part of the family, so it`s actually a
        great relationship and I`ve never been pressured into
        doing anything. She can be very strong-minded about
        certain projects: "I really think you should do
        this." But we always manage to agree on all of my
        choices, and I`m really happy with my career.  
        How many people work with
        you now?  
        My
        first thing was an agent. Then came a publicist. When To
        Die For came out, a lot of people wanted to do
        interviews, so they automatically went to this woman
        where my brother worked. So she just started calling me.
        Then about six months ago, I started thinking about
        getting an entertainment lawyer. They start dealing with
        the contracts and get really involved in the
        details.  Then I just got a business manager who had
        been doing our tax returns. He offered to do it and I
        wanted to free my mom from that responsibility, because
        she`s the one who`s been doing it. I don`t want her to
        have to deal with it, and there`s no way in hell I was
        going to do it, so this guy offered to do it for a really
        good price. All my credit-card statements go to him and I
        talk to him about investments and that sort of thing.  
        You`ve done three films
        pretty close together. Are you worried about working too
        much because it gets to be a drain?  
        Absolutely.
        If my only experience is being around a movie set, well,
        I`m going to become real repetitive and just be doing the
        same shit that you see. But I don`t think anybody should
        be condemned for their choices, because we`re all
        learning and we`re all stupid and you find kids that come
        out of the middle of nowhere and they have no idea and
        suddenly they`re thrust into the limelight and all this
        hype around them. There`s a lot of pressure put on these
        kids.  
        Would you ever do a
        big-budget action movie?  
        I
        would do one of those huge movies because I want to
        experience it. I think it`s probably a lot easier for me
        to do a scene in which I`m having an intimate
        conversation with someone on a quiet little set than it
        is to scream at a blue screen because I think a giant
        dragon`s penis is trying to swallow me. That, to me, is
        going to be a challenge.  
          
          
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