From: roccopapaleo@yahoo.it

Subject: 
alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Dealing with Trolls Crossposting
and Flames Rev 20001126

traduzione italiana parziale e spin-off:
FAQ - Troll crossposting e litigi ver 20011703 

Newsgroups: it.discussioni.litigi, it.discussioni.folli
It.cultura.cybersocieta.lamer 

[Never: it.faq]

Disclaimer: chi lo legge non ne ha bisogno, chi ne ha bisogno non lo leggera'. 
Dovevo almeno provarci.

Followup-To: it.discussioni.litigi
Summary: Questo post descrive i modi di trattare troll, crosspost e litigi 
(flame)
Posting-Frequency: aperiodico
Last-modified: 30-03-2001

Versione originale
URL: http://ddi.digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html


Indice FAQ:

o Introduzione
o Introduzione ai gruppi it.discussioni.litigi [solo parziale]
o Definizione di troll, flame e crosspost
o Cosa fare
o E-Mailing
o Killfiles
o Una descrizione delle gente di it.discussioni.litigi [non fatta]
o La FAQ di it.discussioni.litigi - Conosci l'avversario [non esiste]

Introduzione

============================================

Questa mail e' liberamente distribuibile in ogni forma e media cosi' come e'.
La versione aggiornata della versione originale (in inglese) puo' essere trovata

http://ddi.digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.syntax.tactical/

O in HTML in:

http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq.html

o

http://www.netmeg.net/faq/internet/net-abuse/troll-faq/

[non fatto]
PLEASE email follow-ups, additions / changes to gandalf@digital.net,
My news source is OK, but I sometimes miss items.

http://www.unojust.org/html/trans.htm

Introduzione al gruppo it.discussioni.litigi
============================================

[non ancora fatta]
Se volete informazioni su alt.syntax.tactical leggetevi la versione originale in 
inglese di questa FAQ. Una vera introduzione a it.discussione.litigi non e' 
stata ancora fatta.
[cut]

Definizione di Troll, flame e crosspost
============================================

http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/Usenet/Humor/Trolling/
http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll.htm

Ci sono le seguenti definizioni di Trol:

* Giocoso (1 off trolling)
* Tattico (troll a lungo termine con un solo carattere)
* Strategico (trolling a lungo termine usando personaggi multipli e ondate 
differenti)
* Dominante

Nella realta' italiana i piu' frequenti sono quelli giocosi.


From : The ONE AND ONLY alt.flame FAQ- by Christopher Henrik Lund :

a) Flame: commenti rudi, insulti, attacchi personali. 
b) Trolling: Cercare il litigio. Di solito prende la forma di post inutili come 
chiacchere sdolcinate, informazioni inutili e noiose, McClatchie's FAQ[?] etc. 
c) Cascades: Infinito thread senza significato in cui i poster ripetono la 
stessa frase, alcune volte con leggere variazioni. La cosa diverte i 
partecipanti ma annoia tutti gli altri.
d) Crosspost: postare, conporaneamente, su piu' di un gruppo, mettendo in 
comunicazione piu' gruppi diversi (che potenzialmente potrebbero avere scopi ed 
argomenti diversi)

[NdR_: i link sono vecchi, molti non funzionanti. Soprattutto quelli che si 
riferiscono a deja ora google]

Evitare il litigio:

http://www.melsa.net/internet/tut11.htm
http://www.lowdown.com/%7Edakal/troll.html - AOL Sucks Troll FAQ
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8789/lame.htm - REC.MUSIC.REM lame post FAQ
http://www.la.dtu.dk/~hbm/alt.flame/napalm.html - Alt.flame page
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/2342/waste.html - a.t.x-files troll 
info

Flame e troll :

http://4newsgroups.4anything.com/4/0,1001,5195,00.html
http://www.angelfire.com/biz4/glynnegilmore/page11.html - Excellent article on 
trolling in the newsgroups
http://www.deja.com/article/439276455 - Alt.Troll FAQ
http://www.deja.com/article/499362270 - Bill Palmers comments on trolling
http://www.firelily.com/support/depression/trolls.html
http://www.firelily.com/support/recovery/flame.retardant.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/byzantium/55/troll.htm - Troll Descriptions
http://www.intersurf.com/~aevinc/aev2trol.htm - All about trolls (short)
http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks/internet-songbook/.spam/trolling-in-the-
newsgroups.html - The Song :-) ...
http://x.deja.com/article/553348264 - "Don't Feed The Trolls" article

La Alt.Goth troll FAQ:

http://www.zenweb.com/pan/panstuff/agsffaq.htm

Oppure usate :

http://www.hotbot.com/  e cercate delle flame fatte da troll.

Definizione di Troll :

http://www.altairiv.demon.co.uk/troll/trollfaq.html

Cosa fanno nelle big8:

http://members.aol.com/macabrus/tacticalfaq.html

Uno dei Club:

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/utbhumanresourcesrecruiting

Alt.net finalmente smette di trollare:

http://afk-mn.eist.co.jp/news22.html - Alt.net caves in

E i gruppi che combattono i Troller e gli Spammer:

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/supplements/TheNet/fall97/NET_SCUM.html

Cosa fare:

============================================

State leggendo uno dei vostri newsgoups favoriti e vedete un messaggio come il 
seguente:


Subject: Can I bring my cat to Hell with me?

Newsgroups: alt.flame, alt.spleen, k12.chat.teacher, alt.bigfoot,
alt.tasteless, alt.gathering.rainbow, alt.evil,
alt.bigfoot, alt.sex.cthulhu, k12.chat.senior, alt.satanism,
rec.pets.cats

Date: 26 Jun 1994 23:41:48 -0700

From: antebi@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Shmet)

Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA

I am aware that I can't take my "stuff" with me when I die...



Subject: BONSAIKITTEN: E' ORRIBILE!
Newsgroups: (*)[it.discussioni.litigi, it.discussioni.folli, it.fan.studio-vit, 
alt.italia, it.hobby.scout], it.discussioni.animali.gatti
Date: 26 Jun 1994 23:41:48 -0700
From: ottorino.lapera@fattimiei.it (Ottorino La Pera)
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA

Non e' terribile? SONO DEI TORTURATORI. Avete visto cosa stanno facendo a quei 
poveri gattini su www.bonsaikitten.com (www.gattibonsai.it)



Subject: Siete solo degli ipocriti!
Newsgroups: (*)[it.discussioni.litigi, it.discussioni.folli, it.fan.studio-vit, 
alt.italia, it.hobby.scout], it.discussioni.animali.gatti
Date: 26 Jun 1994 23:41:48 -0700
From: animalista@fattimiei.it (animalista)
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA

Fate tanto gli animalisti e poi segregate quei poveri gattini, siete dei nazisti 
questa e' la verita'.


(*) uno o piu' fra questi, quasi sicuramente il primo. Nei gruppi it.* il cross-
post e' limitato a tre.

O.K... so you know what a flame, a crosspost and a troll are. Now what do you do 
about it?

Saputo cosa e' un flame, il crosspost e cosa sono i troll ora cosa bisogna fare 
in merito?



a) Sedetevi sulle vostre mani e mordetevi la lingua. Rileggete il post. Potrebbe 
essere solo un innocente persona in Internet che ha innocentemente scosso i 
vostri nervi.
b) Guardate alla linea dei newsgoups e guardate quanti elementi contiene. Nello 
specifico guardate se uno dei gruppi e' it.discussione.litigi o 
it.discussioni.folli 
c) Continuate a stare seduti sulle vostre mani.
d) Guardate l'header per controllare che qualcuno non abbia truccato la e-mail 
di ritorno per mettere qualcun altro nei guai. Per aiutarvi in questo guardate: 
http://ddi.digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html 
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.spam/ O guardate questo per capire come 
rintracciare qualcuno: http://208.233.94.170/fravia/fravia.org/enemy.htm
e) Smettete di stare seduti sulle vostre mani, ma non rispondete ancora al post.
f) Leggete la alt.bigfoot FAQ: 
http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/archive/bigfoot.part1.html 
http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/archive/bigfoot.part2.html
g) Sedete e pensate.
h) Leggete qualcosa riguardo alle *bufale in rete* (hoax). C'e' un 
bell'editoriale da passare ai vostri amici che vi mandano delle mail con una di 
queste *bufale* http://www.sccu.edu/faculty/R_Harris/warning.htm 
http://www.deja.com/article/406150013 Oppure le Hoax su internet: 
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html
i) In ogni caso, non rispondete al post in questione.
j) Sedete e pensate. Andate a pulire la muffa dal gorgonzola che avete lasciato 
in frigo una settimana piu' del consentito. Cercate di ricordare che internet 
non e' la vita reale. Non serve a nulla prendersela. I news-groups di cui fate 
parte si dimenticheranno di voi se smettete di postare in sei mesi (e molto 
probabilmente molto prima). La vita reale andra' avanti con o senza internet.
k) "discutere con degli sconosciuti anonimi su internet e' un gioco da stupidi 
perche nella maggior parte dei casi essi si riveleranno - o saranno 
indistinguibili da - dei sedicenni egocentrici con un infinita quantita' di 
tempo libero. -Neal Stephenson, _Cryptonomicon_
l) guardate il file originale di creazione del gruppo (il file non e' 
necessariamente aggiornato) ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/control/ 
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/

Sperabilmente a questo punto il vostro livello di irritazione si sara' di molto 
abbassato.

Quanto sopra e' applicabile a tutti gli articoli che sono dei troll (esche). Il 
post potrebbe essere stato inviato ad un solo gruppo, nonostante cio' e' 
ugualmente stato inviato da un troll per cercare di causare problemi nel 
newsgroups. NON POSTATE! Se lo farete manderete le persone in bestia ancor di 
piu' del flamer originale.

If you feel like you *have* to post a message TRIM THE NEWSGROUPS!
Delete EVERY other newsgroups from the header except the group you are posting 
to. If you cannot delete the excess newsgroups, please do everybody a favor and 
don't post.

Se proprio non ce la fate ed e' *necessario* che postiate qualcosa in risposta, 
TOGLIETE IL CROSS-POST MULTIPLO! Cancellate OGNI gruppo dall'header tranne 
quello del gruppo in cui state postando. Se non potete cancellare il 
crossposting in eccesso, fate un favore a tutto la popolazioen usenet e *non* 
postate.
 
E-Mailing

============================================

Innanzitutto (come penso avrete ormai indovinato) NON postate un messaggio al 
vostro newsgroup a tutti quelli che stanno trollando aspettandovi una risposta. 
Questo incasinera' ulteriormente lo stato del newsgroup e fara' in modo che la 
gente si arrabbi con voi.

Raffaele dice, comunque, che ci sono gruppi in cui ci sono regole che 
incoraggiano il fare l'esatto contrario della regola d'oro (NON POSTATE), e 
accusano di connivenza chi non urla e strepita quando un sospetto troll entra 
nel gruppo.

Quindi, come sempre, e' necessario leggete la FAQ di quel particolare gruppo.

Ricordate, groups.yahoo.com e' vostra amica. Andate in quel sito e scrivete la 
e-mail del postatore. L'insieme dei posting fatti comparira'. Questo vi dira' 
che tipo di tendenze ha il postatore e potrebbe darvi un indizio delle sue 
inclinazioni. Se posta su it.discussioni.litigi e' probabilmente un troll.
[NdR: provate con giannafolla@yahoo.it]

Se il messaggio e' stato postato tramite un remailer anonimo potreste 
semplicemente contattare il remailer. Sfortunatamente questo potrebbe causare 
ulteriori problemi alla possibilita' di postare messaggi anonimi 8 un importante 
fonte di liberta' di parola che non dovrebbe essere distrutta). L'indirizzo E-
mail e' stato probabilmente truccato. Per trovare qualcosa a proposito dei 
remailer, guardate:

http://www.well.com/user/abacard/remail.html

per una lista degli stessi :

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html

If you feel like you have to do *something*, then you should contact the person 
who posted the message. PLEASE send a *nice* message and ask them why they did 
this. Remember, the e-mail is *very* easy to forge and the troll may have been 
posted only to get someone else in trouble. Another item to consider is that the 
person may be a net newbie. They may not *know* that they are starting a flame 
war or making posts that look like trolls. They *may* be sincere about their 
posts and just need some guidance. Help them, please.

Se pensate sia necessario fare *qualcosa*, potreste contattare la persona che ha 
postato il messaggio. PERFAVORE mandate un messaggio *educato* chiedendo come 
mai ha compiuto questo errore. Ricordate, la e-mail e' veramente falide da 
truccare e il troll potrebbe aver postato solo al fine per mettere qualcun altro 
nei guai. Oppure potrebbe essere che 


************************************sin qui ************************************
********************************************************************************

If you get a nasty reply (or no reply and the posts continue), then your next 
option is to send a message to the persons postmaster. See the above spamfaq URL 
for how to figure out what postmaster to send your message to.

Andrew reminds us:

1. Keep it simple, keep it short. Postmasters are amazingly busy people.

2. Be polite. It's not the postmaster you're cheesed off at.

3. Make sure you include the full headers so the postmaster has the all-
important Message-ID tag to track the troll.
Export the message to a text file and paste it back in if you need to.

4. Thank the postmaster for his/her efforts at the end. Gratitude before the 
fact will help spur the postmaster to effort on your behalf.

5. Be patient. It may take the postmaster a few days or a few gripes to act. 
Don't repost the same gripe multiple times. New gripes, however, are 
permissible.

6. If the troll becomes harassing and/or actionable and you can identify the 
site from the headers, call the postmaster. LD charges may be worth it. Follow 
the preceding rules for the phone call. Be polite, be brief, and thank the 
person for their efforts. One call is usually all it takes.

Example gripe :

Dear Postmaster:

Please find attached the headers and body text of a harassing message posted to 
Your Newsgroup. As the message originated at your site, I'd like to request your 
assistance in explaining to the offending user the rules of online etiquette. 
Thank you for your time.

Killfiles

============================================

Most newsreaders support a killfile. A killfile tells your newsreader to 
"ignore" certain posts or posters. The beauty is that you never have to see a 
message from "X" again, or about subject "X" again.

Adding posts to killfiles :

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/killfile-faq/faq.html

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.software.readers/rn_KILL_file_FAQ

If you are a News Administrator (or you know one), you can filter out A.S.T 
posts (thereby also stopping the propagation of these same posts). Look at :

List of anti-spam software:

http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/antispam.html

Some of the software:

http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/cleanfeed.html

http://www.spamhippo.com/

If you follow all of the above steps, you will be happier, but most importantly 
Usenet will be happier for having less bandwidth abused.

Welcome to the Troll FAQ.

A description of the alt.syntax.tactical crew (and lesser trolls)

=================================================================

You will find a description of the AST crew below, but first I must mention the 
lesser groups that inhabit the Internet.
From the group alt.games.creatures we find a group of trolls that (as many 
trolls do) try to make it seem that they are the purveyors of the truth ... 
everybody else is wronging them.

See http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/6042/index.html

Where we find THE AVENGER SQUADRON

----------------------------------

The terrorists on AGC have opened a Pandora's box of terrorism. We intend to 
neutralize that box and close it once and for all, without breaking any laws.

"Fear is a powerful and dangerous thing." -A quote.

We will stop them, without breaking the law.

We are the defenders of justice and peace and we will fight to protect innocent 
people from the savage violence and hatred on AGC that exists because it was 
formerly overrun with terrorists. We have successfully ridden it of several 
hate-mongering persons and groups, and continue to do whatever we can to uphold 
freedom and peace.

Those guilty of violations have accused us of trickery, lies, and forgery. This 
is not the case. We have never lied. We only make legitimate complaints that 
truly violate Terms of Service Agreements. Those who wrongly accuse us of these 
things are no doubt guilty of violations themselves and wish to rid themselves 
of us so that they can continue their inappropriate activities and get away with 
them.

They will not succeed in trying to destroy us. We are here to stay.

----------------------------------

Isn't that just the CUTEST thing :-) ...

The rest of this AST FAQ is here for historical purposes only. Below we find the 
sad description of the AST crew and a copy of their invasion FAQ. Everything 
below this down to my .sig has not been updated (and will not be updated) since 
the troll FAQ was created in early 1996. Jonathan tells me that the *original* 
AST FAQ was written in 1994.

Victor wrote a description about the alt.syntactical wrecking crew. Below is his 
post. The section "The alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Know your opponents" contains 
the tactics used by the AST crew to disrupt any USENET group.

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:52:38 MST

Welcome to the All About alt.syntax.tactical FAQ

(or, Know Your Jerk)

Irregular Posting

*Sigh*. A fresh batch of shitheads have arrived. I do applaud everyone for 
ignoring them. However newbies are advised to read the following.

-- What is this FAQ about? --

This FAQ is for new users who enter the wonderful world of Internet only to be 
disappointed by stumbling upon gigabytes of stupidity and old timers who know 
that idiots tend to hang around in groups. The subject here are a bunch of 
infantile losers known as -

Alt.syntax.tactical

A.s.t can claim the dubious honor of being the only group that even alt.flame 
can look down upon.

-- Why do they do this? --

Beats me. Seems like an awful lot of boring, repetitive rote work with the only 
reward being regarded as an electronic cockroach plague by the rest of the net 
community.

-- How do I recognize an alt.syntax.tactical  post in general? --

- Cross posting to a large number of groups.  Attention seeking exercise.

- The "flogging a dead horse" syndrome. Takinng topics that have been done to 
death and rehashing them. In this case, trying to start another 
alt.tasteless/rec.pets.cats flame-war (ho-hum). This is likely due to the 
article detailing the original flame-war appearing in WiReD magazine, so 
probably seeking attention again.

- General lack of interest, humor and a lame  attempt to be offensive, like 
crossposting to rec.pets.cats, the two K12 groups and alt.gathering.rainbow.

Other general characteristics -

- a.s.t posters are in the habit of followingg up there own articles if the 
original was (wisely) ignored.

- reposting complete articles or flame/counteer flames with one line comments, 
thus maximizing bulk.

- endless flame/counter-flames between the vaarious a.s.t invasion wave members 
when the real newsgroup members(wisely) ignore them.

As a rule of thumb, if it is boring, pointless and inane, you can bank on it 
being from a.s.t.

-- What can I do about stupid a.s.t posts? ---

The golden rule is ignore. If someone farts in a room, the smell will eventually 
go away. Likewise, if a.s.t is largely ignored, they too will go away.

Resist all urges to reply. You'll be bashing your head against a brick wall and 
only giving them satisfaction. Learn to use your kill-file, ask someone you know 
how if you don't know. The more hi-tech among you may want to track them down 
and extract whatever electronic revenge you can. 

-- Where do a.s.t reside, usually? --

There originally was an a.s.t group, and it still gets used occasionally. 
Mostly, they hang out in alt.bigfoot, which was probably originally a Sasquatch 
interest group which they invaded and decided to keep, and in alt.flame.

-- Who are the members of a.s.t? --

(Note : These people haven't posted in a long time, so this is an old list)

OK, here is the listing. If any body has any other addresses, e-mail, and we'll 
add them.

Name and/or handle Address

_____________________________________________

Robert Trent trent@vertigo.helix

Supreme commander harmoni@vertigo.helix

Shafik Harmoni trent@mprgate.mpr.ca

Antebi antebi@scf.usc.edu

Rev. Antebi antebi@ucla.edu

Ron Shmet antebi@phakt.usc.edu

antebi@chaph.usc.edu

shmet@ucla.edu

Wilf wilf@doe.carlton.ca

Bulldog bulldog@achilles.net

wilf@sce.carlton.ca

Dewme sdew@charlie.usd.edu

Charlie Dew sdew.nyx.du.edu

sdew@tulip.usd.edu

Wild Bill traveller@teleport.com

Bill Travis bill@suntan.vid.ilstu.edu

Doug Weber grossy@netcom.com

Lisa Park Yzer-GOD brotman@netcom.com

John Kordic jpdavid@netcom.com

Plus an ever changing variety of others. As has come to pass, it isn't even 
necessary to know the above idiots, though they are the most predominant and 
have popped up in a.t several times this year.

A.s.t has matured with time to be just another generic term for bandwidth 
wasting shit-heads.

The alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Know your opponents

=================================================

Here's some relevant source material, obtained from one of the members, the 
"real" FAQ of AST, a somewhat less serious one, and one distributed -about- AST.

The Invasion FAQ of A.S.T.

Although not exactly a FAQ, this file is more of an explanation of why 
alt.syntax.tactical and the tactical-list were created. It also lays down the 
foundation for the structure, strategy, and protocol of USENET invasions.

* Invasion *

Each of us brings our own reasons, backgrounds and motivations into this scheme. 
What is important is that each individual brings into this their own brand of 
inspired mischief. In some ways it is completely innocent. In some ways it is 
completely destructive.

Anyone can walk into alt.sex and post that pornography should be banned. Anyone 
can walk into rec.sport.baseball and say "baseball sucks". It takes unbelievable 
skill and discipline to cause a PROLONGED flame war. That is what we do. But it 
can only be done with talent, and numbers to match that talent. We only bring 
into the fold people who have the knack to use smarts to incite chaos, not 
stupidity to incite being ignored when people see a post and know what you're up 
to.

To keep things running smoothly, Antebi is our 'moderator'. Jpdavid was 
responsible for creating the mailing-list and setting up the initial newsgroup. 
Everyone is equal in suggesting and voting on invasion sites and other basic 
day-to-day workings of the group. Everyone here gains or loses merit only in the 
invasion arena.

* Waves of Invasion *

Flames and wars between groups are as old as Usenet. What we try to do is in 
many ways fundamentally different from what is or has been done in this area.

After picking a site, we call for an invasion on that site. There are a number 
of phases to an invasion. Each person can volunteer for which wave they want to 
be in, but more times than not, it is a first come-first served policy. It is 
always important that no one jump the gun and go in before we have time to 
prepare and bounce ideas off each other. It's also important that people don't 
switch waves without letting everyone know. Flexibility is the key, as is 
communication.

Typically, we use between two and five Waves of attack. Waves will generally 
break down into this kind of structure:

a: Reconnaissance (RECON): These people will go in early and usually set up camp 
as "friends of the newsgroup". They will become trusted and participate by 
joining previous discussions or starting non-controversial ones themselves. They 
will also act as "double-agents" to counter-flame the other waves as the 
invasion progresses. They key is building a bit of credibility.

b: Wave One: Wave one will usually be what starts the flame war. Those involved 
in this wave can go on and each have a different flame, or go on and flame in 
unison. They can bring in a subject of their own or flame a previous discussion. 
What matters is that this initial wave will be the one that the invaded 
newsgroup will have their attention on. This wave calls for extreme subtlety. 
The quality of the flame MUST be at its highest point here.

c: Wave Two: Wave Two will consist of tactics to attack the people who were sent 
in as recon and attempt to start totally new flame threads. The key here is that 
even if we attack a group of people restrained enough to resist our flame-bait, 
wave two will stir things up and get others to join in.

d: Wave Three: Wave three will generally change depending on the campaign, but 
will generally be added to push the confusion and chaos over the top. Flame the 
recon, flame the first wave, flame the second wave. These guys are our balls 
out, rude SOB's. Mop up and clean out. 

Sometimes (usually with bigger groups) Wave three will simply be along the lines 
of a wave two. We will call for a wave four (or five) to be the balls out 
routine. We will sometimes add a wave or two because depending on the size and 
intelligence of a newsgroup.

Miscellaneous Tactics:

There are three other things that we typically use, depending on the 
sophistication of the invasion.

LOOSE CANNONS are people who come in and act so strange and obtuse that it makes 
the rest of the flames look genuine.

THE ANON SERVICE can be used to send posts anonymously. This is a good way to 
post and pretend to be scared of retribution. Only problem is that this is 
usually the first sign that a post is a flame, so it should only be used with a 
TREMENDOUS amount of DISCRETION.

CROSS POSTING is also a popular method of choice by other flame groups, so it is 
important to Cross Post with discretion. If we can cross post to bring in other 
newsgroups to unwittingly assist us, perfect. If we cross post to suspicious 
newsgroups, our intentions will be obvious.

* Victory *

Ideally, signs of victory are the following:

o Our names appear in killfiles

o Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by us

o Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup

o Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin

o To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin

* Notes *

Most important is the need to be SUBTLE when it is required. One misplaced post 
can ruin it for the rest of us. Those of you who have participated in widespread 
flame wars know the feeling of having a newsgroup going for a long time, then 
someone posts an obvious flame or something so far out of context, that everyone 
says to just ignore the flames, which eventually includes all of us. Blowing a 
flame war will occasionally happen, but if it could have been avoided with a 
little thinking, then it's not as excusable. 

We've got to share duties. Everyone should get practice playing different roles 
and different waves.

It has been assumed that if you don't want to participate, fine. No one will 
hold it against you. What is expected is that if you don't want to participate 
you don't have to, but that also means that you wont go warning that newsgroup 
when an invasion happens. You will close your eyes and turn a blind eye. NO 
NEWSGROUP IS OFF LIMITS!!!!!!

Another thing many people seem to be talking about are SIGS AND NAMES. Try to 
take on appropriate names. If you are on alt.rap, D.J. Trouble is not going to 
stir things up...if you show up on soc.culture.physics with that name, you're 
caught before your first word of text. If a Sig is going to blow your cover, 
lose it.

Official Kudos:

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ALT.SYNTAX.TACTICAL: The FAQ

v. 0.98

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Table of Contents:

A Introduction to alt.syntax.tactical

B Questions Frequently Asked

00 What is tactical syntax?

01 What do those long words mean?

02 What do you get when you put those words into an alt newsgroup?

03 Why is tactical syntax important to us?

04 What kinds of topics will be discussed on a.s.t?

05 Have certain ethnic groups or women as a gender been biased by
syntactical tactics?

06 What languages make the best and worst use of syntax?

07 What are some of the hidden secrets of syntax?

08 How and why has syntax changed over the years?

09 Can studing[sic] other types of languages (sign, Braille, etc.)
help us understand our own tactical syntax?

10 In case of emergency, who should we contact?

11 What other newsgroups might I find interesting?

12 Who is out to get us?

13 Who is an a.s.t approved author?

14 What is the Tertiary Syntactical Cycle?

15 Is there any Television syntax?

16 Who is the current caretaker of the newsgroup?

C Summary

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A Introduction to alt.syntax.tactical

Welcome to the FAQ for alt.syntax.tactical. It was founded for the
purpose of offering an oasis to those seeking
intensive and concrete forum to discuss issues surrounding the
mystique of "tactical syntax" or "strategic sentencing".
We also like to play with 'magick' and the intrinsic tactical-syntax
needed to sucker the post-D&D crowd.

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B Frequently asked questions

0 What is tactical syntax?

It is structure, and structure is meaning. That is the point of this
newsgroup. Part of the tactics is to steal language
back from the academics who would have us believe that the real
meaning of language can only be found in areas
which can be understood only by them, not by "the rest of us".

1 What do those long words mean?

tactical = An expedient for achieving an end. The science of using
strategy to gain military objectives. Skillful
maneuvering to achieve a goal.

syntax = The way in which words are put together to form sentences,
clauses and phrases.

2 What do you get when you put those words into an alt newsgroup?

Alt.syntax.tactical is dedicated to serving those who are both
attracted to and repulsed by the myriad of options
regarding the structure, logistics, ethics and morality of
sentences/clauses/phrases. This group will NOT debate
grammar in it's intrinsic form, nor debate the correct and incorrect
forms of spelling. Words, isolated. mean nothing
to us. Words, tactfully arranged, mean everything. alt.syntax.tactical
will attempt to present itself as a forum for those
searching for better ways to communicate through utilizing the
ultimate good deeds of others through both debate and
causal/friendly suggestion. Alt.syntax.tactical should function as a
freeform information branch to get a better grasp of
how and why syntax makes an impact on not just our own lives, but the
lives of our nuclear families and human
civilization as well.

3 Why is tactical syntax important to us?

The great debate of our century has been how the great personalities
of our time have worked their communicative
"magic". One might ask if the British would have survived without the
brilliant syntax of Winston Churchill. Or one
might ask is the Nazi's would have even been given a blinking chance
to create the Third Reich without the brilliant,
albeit malevolent, syntax of Adolf Hitler. What makes good syntax? We
find that the more tactical the syntax is the
better that syntax is.

To understand the importance of syntax in the Modern, flame Postmodern
and Macromoderno age, it is essential to
acknowledge the contribution of semantics and language mechanics. We
must understand the contrived and
manipulative effects of social/political/interpersonal propaganda. Can
syntax help you get a discount when purchasing
items in a retail store? Can syntax make or break an international
peace treaty? What is the subjective bias of syntax
relative to the teeming population of mass humanity and objective
reality.

4 What kinds of topics will be discussed on a.s.t?

* The Psychology of Syntax.

* Verbal and Non-Verbal gestures and their effect on Syntax.

* Syntax under the manipulative effect of hypnosis.

* Dyslexia/Schizophrenia and Syntax

* Syntax under the effects of drugs and alcohol

* The Syntax of Slang

* Situational Syntax

* The History and Development of North American Syntax

* Sex, Syntax and the 90's

* Violence and the Syntax dialectic

* Syntax and propaganda in Cold War Russia

5 Have certain ethnic groups or women as a gender been biased by
syntactical tactics?

Yes. Within the Specific and General domains of syntax, language and
diction have been used by various factions of
meta-institutions to support the downsizing and exploitation of women
and members of ethnic groups.

6 What languages make the best and worst use of syntax?

Typically, languages with larger vocabularies (Romance) lend
themselves to more tactical approaches to diction than
languages with smaller vocabularies (i.e. Serubian).

7 What are some of the hidden secrets of syntax?

Join the Newsgroup and find out. We will tell you. Hint: It has
nothing to do with dolphin squeaks.

8 How and why has syntax changed over the years?

As fluid as a river in the desert, syntax has flowed with change.
Change is a natural evolution from the sea to the
trees, the question is not so much how and why, but when and how.

9 Can studing other types of languages (sign, Braille, etc.) help us
understand our own tactical syntax?

Of course it can. But for the most part, we only care about English.
Although, we would like to learn to swear in
other languages. Look out for the alt.syntax.tactical 'Insulting
Foreigners' FAQ coming to a.s.t soon!

10 In case of emergency, who should we contact?

Please post your problem first, but in case of emergency, you can
e-mail to
VICE-PRESIDENT@WHITEHOUSE.GOV

11 What other newsgroups might I find interesting?

Other a.s.t recommended newsgroups include:

alt.nuke.the.usa

alt.forgery

comp.sys.amiga.advocacy

alt.fan.warlord

alt.spelling

alt.sex.bestiality

12 Who is out to get us?

The professionals who want to reduce language to:

(1) semantics (that is, little tiny bits which can only be studied
with an electron microscope), or

(2) "deep" structures which can only be studied by
psycho-bio-physio-neurochemists

13 Who is an a.s.t approved author?

Thomas Hardy - In the examination of the uses of Syntactical Fiction
as a means to brainwash an unyielding public,
one of the nineteenth century authors who best personifies this effort
is Thomas Hardy, specifically in his novel, "The
Mayor of Casterbridge" in which he presents moral dilemmas at an
astounding rate and everything runs in intense
cycles of threes. There is not a single aspect of the book that does
not contain this Tertiary Syntactical CycleTSC.

14 What is the Tertiary Syntactical Cycle?

TSC is probably the most powerful and oft used tactic in the attack on
unsuspecting minds. Take comedians: All
comics tell a joke a maximum of three times. The will get a bigger and
better laugh the second and third telling. No
competent comic will say a joke a fourth time. This is a violation of
TSC and is not to be tolerated. TSC is also the
reason that Hollywood produces Trilogies. The Lord of the Rings is
perfect in its trimetry. There is a purpose behind
TSC and we must all see and use this tactic as a matter of common rule
and not as an optional choice. We have no
Optional Choices!

15 Is there any television syntax?

That to which you refer actually has its basis in the code written
circa 1938 by Dr. Y. Cournoyer of McGill
University. In the preface to the Canadian Royal Syntactical
Performance Methodology Code, Dr. Cournoyer states,

"Subversion through the syntactical methodology of oratological mind
control must be closely supervised and
regulated. Patterns of words transmitted non-personally can have a
tremendous impact on a man's [sic] panic
centers"

The good doctor had studied this effect of radio broadcasts among
small populations in northern New Brunswick,
and, luckily for us, had anticipated the mass visual medium of
television. The code, first adopted by the CRTC and
followed by the American FCC, prohibits the broadcast of certain
syllabic and phonemic patterns, and sets a syntax
standard adopted all over God's Green Earth.

16 Who is the current caretaker?

We let Teagi keep the group alive, and promote distribution. If your
site doesn't carry it, let them know you want it!

C Again, welcome to alt.syntax.tactical. We hope you join us in our
discussions and learn. please use the knowledge
acquired for good, not evil.

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