The Show, Channel 4, February 15th 1997.
JC and Show Secretary in dressing room :
JC: Who did you drop me for?
SS: First of all we had ... obviously you were our guest for a while and
then we had Adam Faith, do you know him? He's a kind of chorus line, he's
a presenter.
JC: You dropped me for him?
SS: Yeah.
JC: I came all the way from Hollywood and you dropped me for him?
SS: Uh, yeah, and then we had Julie Goodyear, do you know her?
JC: Aaah!
JC + 2 Producers in corridor :
JC: So I got dropped for a British soap opera star is hat the idea?
P1: It was a ...
P2: You were always up there and, um, ...
JC: I don't belive you for a second, not a second.
P1: It has been a bit of a week John but we are very grateful that you
came along.
The Show :
Interviewer: My next guest is the mastermind behind some of the greatest
Hollywood movies of the last three decades. His horror flick Halloween
redefined the phrase 'scared shitless'. Will you please welcome Mr John
Carpenter.
I: How are you? Nice to see you. What are you doing? You are over here
for the Howard Hawks...
JC: I'm here to give a masterclass on Howard Hawks in the National Film
Theatre.
I: Ok. Howard Hawks, the greatest American director?
JC: In my opinion the greatest American director. A lot of people don't
realise he is but he's made a great movie in every single genre. He made
comedies, he made action films, he made science fiction films, he did it
all.
I: Very much like yourself in fact.
JC: No.
I: Yes you are, cos you've kind of moved around.
JC: I would love to be able to say that I was ... something rubbed off
from Howard Hawks to me, but not really.
I: Did you ever meet him?
JC: Yes I did.
I: When did you meet him?
JC: 1970, I was a film student at USC. I came up to him and said 'Mr Hawks
you're my favourite director.' He looked at me and my long hair and said
'Uh-huh.' He was a great director, it was wonderful to meet him and he's
inspired my entore career.
I: So let's talk about John Carpenter. When did you start, what did you
do?
JC: I came out of film school, I made a student film, I thought as soon
ans I made it I would get right into Hollywood, the limo would pull up,
I would get right out onto the sound stage. It didn't work that way.
I: What was the film?
JC: Dark Star.
I: No, the one before that.
JC: Oh, Resurrection of Bronco Billy. Yeah, that was a movie that won an
Academy Award.
I: There you go, when you're a student you won an Academy Award.
JC: Didn't mean anything.
I: Really?
JC: No, no one cared. I had to write my way into the business in terms
of screenplays and finally I raised enough money to do a movie called Halloween
and that put me on the map.
I: So how did Halloween come about?
JC: The producer came to me and said 'I want to you to make a film about
baby sitters getting murdered' and I said 'Ok, if I can have complete control
I'll do it' and we decided to call it Halloween.
I: Ok, and it cost something ridicolous?
JC: $300,000.
I: Which is nothing.
JC: Made 75 million.
I: Wow! And did you get a little cut of that?
JC: I did, yeah.
I: Fine, ok. And the other thing you did was to introduce us to Jamie Lee
Curtis.
JC: She was 19 years old, she was gorgeous, and still is.
I: So Halloween worked and you thought 'right, I like this, I like this
kind of scary, spooky...'
JC: I like it, but you know I got stereotyoed into it. I think the toughest
thing to deal with in Hollywood is being successful, it's not failing.
So I didn't quite know what to do, so I kept making fantasy and horror
films, and I got really lucky, had a great career.
I: Was there a point after Halloween where you said 'I'd quite like to
do a nice little romantic comedy' and presumably you go 'yeah, ok, when
do they get killed'?
JC: Well basically I get offered movies where zombies come up and eat flesh.
I: Where do you start from?
JC: Well basically you start from the idea fear. Cos you're making movies
about fear, and fear is a universal thing. Everybody's frightened of the
same things. We're all frightened of death, being mutilated, death of a
loved one. Everybody in the world is afraid of the same thing. Fear is
the oldest and strongest emotion we have, so it crosses all boundaries.
So what you basically want to do is put the audience in suspense and fear
and thrills for an hour and a half or two hours.
I: What frightens you? What movies do you think 'Ooh, that's scary'?
JC: Movies don't really scare me, I'm like a plumber, I know what the plumbing
is like, so I know how it works. But real life scares me a lot.
I: Where do you live?
JC: Hollywood, California.
I: Is that a scary city?
JC: No, it's a great city.
I: Is it?
JC: Yeah, you can't be a wimp to live there, it's a tough city. You got
earthquakes, you got riots, you got drive-by shootings ...
I: Sounds like a barrel of laughs, like a lovely seaside village! So by
that you mean that if you got a movie you say 'I see where blood came from'?
JC: Exactly.
I: But in real life ...
JC: No, it's tough, but we've replaced New York as the baddest city in
the United States.
I: There is a school of thought that says that the reason the streets of
the world are so dangerous today is because people have watched movies
like Halloween. Is there a link?
JC: This debate has been going on ever since they first put on plays back
in ancient Greece. Aristopheles had to rewrite his plays of they were too
violent or too sexy or too political. Shakespeare had the same problems,
we all have the same problems because I think people are frightened of
real life and what they want to do is limit their freedoms to make them
feel better. It's a perception that we have that the world is dangerous.
But movies arn't causing it, and the problems are tough. How do you deal
with poverty? How do you deal with child abuse? What do you do about it?
I don't have the answers for that.
I: Do you think films are an easy target then?
JC: There are a lot of easy targets, films is one of them. Television is
anothere.
I: So what do you feel about censorship, how is it in the USA?
JC: It's on its way, it's coming to us in a big time way. I think that
you're going to see a big change in the movies now. I think it's going
to go back to a more puritanical straightforward kind of thing because
I think people are very frightened. They're worried about the future. They're
worried about the year 2000. They're worried about their jobs and all this
goes right into attacking the movies.
I: It's been a great pleasure, ladies and gentlemen, John Carpenter!
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