Hi people,

I have a question. I know that hok san and fut san are to different styles of lion heads and lion dancing... I was just wondering... Where category do those Malaysian head fall into? Or are they a different style on their own? If any one can shed some light on this I'd really apreciate it... Also, I recently saw a Lion with three mirrors on the forehead, does anyone know what's that about?

Jason.

George will probably do a better job then I in answering this but here goes...

As george said, Malaysia also uses a Fat Hoc style head. The front of the Hoc san head but not as narrow or flat like the Fat san style.

For lion dancing. i've heard the current model of poles and acrobatics called Southern Lion danced in the Northen style. (Nan Si Bak Mo?) that's because the Northern lion uses more of the animal motions and junmping. This stems from it's opera roots. The traditional southern lion is more martial in movements and concerned about "puzzles" from its martial arts and triad roots.

Stephen

I might not be right but this is what i Know. Malaysian Lions are just lions. Fat Shan and Hoc San usually refers to the way their shaped. There are Malaysian Hoc San Lions(commonly known as singapore) and the malaysian Fat shan. The 3 mirror on the forehead is on the Fat Shan copy of Master Siow's Lions. I'm not sure what its about but i think they just did it to be new i guess. Just like the lion heads the have a dragon head as a horn. They just dude it for something new. But i could be wrong.

Subject: Re: [LionDance] styles

As albert said in addition to the Fat Hoc heads, malaysia uses all kinds of heads.

He also brought up a good point about the horns. The older lions actually had dragons and phoenixes for horns. I used to know why but have forgotten. I saw some really nice and intricate ones in Hong Kong.

Never seen the three mirrors.

Stephen

There's an obvious difference between the Fat san and Hok san lions. The Fat san lions are more round as opposed to the hok san lions that have a flat mouth (duck bill lion head) and a "milk mustache" of sorts. The thing is, I've seen lions that kind of fall in the middle. There's one where the head is pretty round. It's wider at the bottom and it get narrower at the top. It's pretty hard to explain, I have a picture but i don't know if i can send it to though the list. Am i able to? Would the list server block it out or anything?? Also, the other one i've seen.. It's almost like a hok san lion, but it doesn't have the same mouth. It's mouth is shaped like a "w", The upper lip curves up pretty high. Giving a description is pretty hard, but if anyone understand what i'm talking about please let me know.

Thanks,

Jason

Hi guys,

I have been working on the Lieu Quan Lion Dance site. It is not done yet but I like to get your opions on the structure, usability, and visibility of it. If you could, please take a few moments to stop by and check it out. I will continue adding on to it and will update you guys as soon as I post the update.

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Thanks.

Duc Vo

P.S.: Chris Low or Rob Teng, please add our site to the Washington List of Lion Dance teams. Thanks!

Keith,

Just received your check because you did not have a room number for my address so it has been floating around the building (150 showrooms) until it got to me today. Will mail or drop off the vcd at 825 a Kearny along with $10 discount.

David

Yeah, you can send the picture.

Albert Le

Thanks David. I appreciate it.

keith

Hi All,

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