hi im new at this list...well im 14/m/houston.....i been lion danncin for like...um......6-7 years...i dont know.....i started when i was in 3rd grade...im goin to 9th now....ya ya.....well....i lion dance for teo chew temple in houston...yes yes......well...i was jus wonderin....do yall know any website where u can dwonlaod video clips??.....okie....im out bai bai

Pki

Hi everyone,

wow the video clips are really great! i've seen the defending champions clip on the liondancer website, but since these are asf files it's alot clearer and better. at least now i know what people are oohing and aahing about! oh how i wish Oz lion dancing was half as good! i tried to join them with a program i have called splitter, but since it wasn't uploaded to be joined, i'll have to do it manually with a video editing tool. anyone know if this is possible so i don't spend 10hrs trying to, and end up not being able to anyway?!

thanks. Linda

Another little teenager like me. 16/m/san jose. since 3rd grade too. from Numerous groups. if you want clips, go to www.oocities.org/lionscave1 look under multimedia. the site will keep you busy.

ALbert Le

hello....well i dwnlaoded a movie...frm that gent site...but how do u play ASF file??

okie thanx

What's Up, hey, I'm 17 comin' from Fresno, CA. So I guess younger people are interested in this. Oh yeah, I'm male too. But I've been lion dancing for about three years, not as much as you guys but I still love it...

Andrew

me too...i downloaded some movies and can't open it....i have quicktime..but what is asf?

ddchang

Hey PK and Andrew, does your team have websites or do you have any pictures of your team that you can show?

Albert Le

You can play asf files with the new version of Windows Media Player. You can download it from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/en/Download/default.asp

This page gives you several choices including versions for Windows 2000, 98, 95, and Macintosh platforms. There are other players that will work also, but Media Player is a good all-around player that can handle many different types of files.

I just downloaded a few clips and watched them on version 6 for Windows NT and it worked fine after it downloaded a new codec. The process was automatic, so I didn't really have to do anything besides click a few buttons.

ummm.......my team....we dotn have a website.,....but i got a pic..oen of my friend scanned it...u can see it at lion cave website....go to the grtoup section...and go to texas...mines will be Texas Teo Chew blah blah...okie

I have pics of my team, but they aren't on my computer and I don't have a scanner, I'll try to fix that soon, if I get it, I'll send you some,

Andrew

Anyone on this list going to Genting to watch the competition? Just curious. I might be there.

got a question. will there be a VCD for this event too like in 1998?

ALbert Le

hello whomever....

can someone please tell me how to subscribe to this list? i'm changing isp. thank you.

dd chang

hol up...there was a vcd for genting lion dance 1998 or watever.....if so...anyone know where i can buy it at??

thanx

Contact David Lei. he should have some copies left. its 35 dollars including S&H.

isdavid@slip.net is his email.

Albert Le

PS its worth the money

hmmmm.......35 dollars......us dollars....i wantit......but i doubt it if my parent will buy it...or let me buy it...okie thanx anywayz

Hi pkjaijai,

Just wanted to say hi and that I am glad more Houston people are popping up on these discussions. :) So you are from Teo Chew temple? Is that the one off of Bellaire just west of Beltway 8? I am from Lee's Golden Dragon. Don't be shy and say hi next time we see each other out there, alright?

Willy Le

HeLLo Willy...hm......ya we that temple off of bellaire and beltway 8...lee golden dragon.....yall sound familier...have i seen yall before.....i think so........well do you have some piture of yo group??or a website??..well im gone

oya....can u giv me some hint so i can recongize which troupe u are....cuz i seen a lot...but i dont kknow there names...okie...bai bai

see ya

Pk

If anyone is interested, I can send pictures of my lion head available. Price is still $575 for both head and tail.

Brandon

Hello fellow lion dance fanatics,

I just thought i'd take the opportunity to let you in on a little something i found whilst been online.

http://welcome.to/Richville

I thought this site was a load of junk too, but boy did they prove me wrong.

Anyhow, keep this site to yourself, tell your frens about it...whateva!

Have fun,

Sam Lee

Hi Brandon,

I'd like to see some pictures of your lion. Can you send them to me?

Thank you,

Greg

It is a load of junk... that page doesn't work.

Jason

Yeah, Maung! I WILL be there! Only the final. Anyone join us? ^^

Vela

does anyone know if theyre gonna release another VCD. Oh yah do they even have a 1999 world comp VCD? I have the 98' and it was well worth it but did they release a 99?

the genting world champs are bi annual.=every 2 years

ALbert

Please do not send garbage over this mailing list . This page has nothing to do with lion dancing does it?!!!

stick to liondancing stuff only please this is my own opinion

Daniel Low

ok I was watching the 98' lion dance competition. One CD had the the actual comp, another was the interviews with some of the teams in which they didn't show their performance. They were labeled as "preliminaries." But I thought in a lion dance competition, you only get one chance? So were the teams that they actually showed the best out of all the rest or did they actually have to perform several performances, and those teams just happened to be the ones that made it up there? And which team was Kung Seng Keng?

try again it does work

well without exposing possible minors to obscene words...you know what you can do with your opinion!

Are you aware of how many teams there are? Its a large competition. The prelimanaries are there for taking the best 10 of the challengers to challenge the defending champs of the world lion dance competition. In a lion dance competition, you might get one chance, but this is the world champions. Other lion dance comps. are not on the scale of the world champs. The ones they show were all the teams from the final round. Kun Seng Keng was the silver lion at the beginning of disc 3. it says the team name before they performed.

Hey PK,

We don't have pics or a website up yet. I'll try to work on it throughout the summer. But you can always recognize us by the gold parade dragon that we sometimes bring out (hence the name, Lee's Golden Dragon :). We also have a big red ball that the performers walk on. Hope that rings a bell.

Willy

Sam,

I don't know who you are and have never heard you contribute anything to this list. Why did you have to start with spam? If we started to allow spam on this (probably) very big list, the whole thing would break down. AllAdvantage and all those other internet ad companies do work, but we don't care to know about those things through a closed mailing list intended to discuss a specific subject.

The first post you sent was a mistake that I can overlook and I simply deleted. But now you are retaliating against people who are right to say that spam doesn't belong on this list. That is just wrong. But for all you other guys, next time this happens just let one person remind the list that this doesn't belong here, and the rest of you try to ignore future spam. This list has been clean and friendly for years - let's keep it that way.

Willy

Hello

im just wonerinh how much does it cost to buy one of those jumping thing...u know...those sutff lions jump on those on competition....or do uu make it yo self??....or is tehre a place u can order it??.....okie

thanx

Pk

Amen Brother.

Jason

I would like to say we drop the subject, we could keep telling him to not send the spam, but it is his choice. Whether we read it or not and let it get to us is ours. But if both sides keep arguing back and forth, it no longer becomes a mailing list about lion dancing, it becomes more of a personal argument which completely defeats the purpose. I propose we forget the incident, and continue as before, and if he sends spam again, then it's his choice, for those who appreciate, fine, to the ones who don't delete it. Then we do away with all the useless banter. Okay?

Andrew

PS - How many out there have every practiced the northern(shaggy doglike) lion? If so, what do you think about it compared to the southern style?

>How many out there have every practiced the northern(shaggy doglike) lion? If
>so, what do you think about it compared to the southern style?

Dancing the buk see is a lot different from dancing the nam see.

The tail can see even less...almost nothing.

You can't switch because of the traditional design of the costume.

You get hotter.

You get hairs stuck in your mouth.

Good cooperation between head and tail is more important with the shorter tail.

Size of head is smaller and balance is different.

Eyelid and mouth controls are operated at the hand holds, so the head usually doesn't need to let go of the hand holds.

Bo fat and movements of the head are more woot poot. Not as fierce-looking as the traditional styles of dancing nam see. Some might describe the bo fat as lighter.

Buy a dog hair brush to keep the hairs from looking matted and nappy.

If funds are available, go for the more expensive real hair instead of the synthetic hair. The real hair looks better, lasts longer, and is easier to keep.

Dancing the buk see is fun, but it seems most people who have had chances to dance both much prefer the nam see.

Did the list die or soemthin??becauase i havnt got ahny mails in a while....or does this alwayz happen??.....or did i get kicked off the list??.....well i dont know....sorrie to bother u...but im jus wonderin..okie thanx

Pk

hi

im jsu wonder....when do yall pratice....like......how many times a week...and how long.....and wut some excerise yall do??..okie bia bai

Pk

there's a few things you gotta learn about this list. this list isn't always active. people dont always have things to talk about everyday. you cant really get kick off the list unless you really really try(if its possible).

ALbert

Hi,

I am one of the maintainers of this mailinglist, but since I don't have a particular interest in liondancing per se, I set up procmail to send all liondance mail to my 'liondance' folder, which I glance through occasionally.

I have a few things to say on this matter.

> I would like to say we drop the subject, we could keep telling him to not
> send the spam, but it is his choice.

That's not entirely true. This is a private mailinglist. Like someone pointed out, it's a friendly list and it should stay that way. It's fairly large with 99 email addresses on the list.

Although there is no charter for this list, I do think 'no spamming!' would rank in the top 5. Spamming (or anything the members see as spamming) is NOT allowed and is seen as abuse of the mailinglist and the server it resides on.

If anybody abuses this mailinglist in some fashion, feel free to mail me (serhat@freud.et.tudelft.nl) and I will look into the matter. For now, 'stoopid_thing' has been removed from the mailinglist. This also has to do with the fact that I got some 'user unknown' responses from that address, so it wouldn't make sense keeping that address in the list anyway.

I propose the following:

- Spamming by members of the list can result in immediate removal from the list if at least 5 other members complain.

- A person can return to the list after an incident if at least 10 members accept (everybody can make mistakes, right?)

- Sending commercial email to the list is allowed, but there are costs involved. People may send commercial ads to the mailinglist at a frequency of less than two weeks. This is only allowed AFTER billing. Costs are a mere $50 per member. All earnings will be donated to liondance related activities.

What do you guys think about the above proposals? Ok, the last proposal was a little more on the humorous side, but if someone would actually want to pay $5k.. it should be considered ;-)

Regards,

Serhat Sakarya

Well, my team practice twice a week.

Day 1 : from 11 a.m - 5 p.m
Running 20 laps, Stances 30 minutes, free style, puzzle, poles and chairs.

Day 2 : from 6 p.m - 11 a.m
Running 10 laps, stances 45 minutes, free style, sometimes with training with the opening and closing flags.

By the way, does anyone play opening and closing flags? If anyone of you does, I'd like to disscuss about the movement. Thanks.

care,
Vela

> cant really get kick off the list unless you really really try(if its
> possible).

or maybe you could get kicked off due to spelling errors.. I though the little mispellings were cute in the begining.. but then you start to wonder if it isn't a joke.

Geoff

Has anyone heard of Gee Yung Chinese Martial Art Association Dragon & Lion Dance Troupe? I see they're representing the USA in Genting next month, but I don't think I've ever heard of them. Background, location, pictures, etc would be helpful and appreciated.

Thanks!

Chris

Chris,

Gee Yung International Martial Art Association is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. They are located in Honolulu's Chinatown district. They are the second oldest martial arts, lion dance school in Honolulu. Their sifu is Arthur Lee. Their head instructors includes his son, Harlan, and Shane Maihui. Shane is their lion dance coordinator and a very experienced drummer. They participated in the 1999 Hong Kong Lion Dance competition during Chinese New Year. They participated in the lion dance conference in San Francisco last year and learned a lot of materials from Master Siou. They currently are using Master Siou's lions and dragon in their performances. If you need more information, please email back and I will research more for you.

Ernie Loo

Sherman,

I found this page while looking for more resources to add tot he Lion's Cave. Does it look familiar to you?

http://www.bio.metu.edu.tr/~e068707/dance.html

Thought you might be interested

Chris

In my opinion, it's annoying and rude.

Jason

>- Spamming by members of the list can result in immediate removal from the
> list if at least 5 other members complain.
I think that right after the first time someone sends spam, they should be off.

That's just my opinion.

Jason

What a shame it is that there are people out there who steal your work like that. I guess I should change some of the addresses on the links. I'm partly responsible, though, since I haven't updated my page for so many years. Thanks.

Sherman

sOUNDAS GOOD AND FAIR TO ME!!

DANIEL LOW

and it helps not to write in ebonics neither. not everyone can understand that language.

dd chang