The Nightmare Isn't Over
Plot Oversights | Continuity and Other | Facts You May Not Know |
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Karen tells Bud that they can leave the door open if one of the kids started to cry. Do you honestly think that Bud and Karen in the passion of lovemaking would hear that, better yet how are they going to hear a baby cry over the sound of the whirlpool???
Just noticed this there just now but when Karen the nurse walks up to the room that is buzzing her there is a window on the door. But when she walks into the room have a look at the door again the window is gone.
When Michael is on fire you see him walk next to a burning stretcher the camera goes to Laurie and when it goes back to Michael he is now walking towards the same burning stretcher.
When Nurse Karen drives in to the hospital to go to work the entrance is dark but when she gets out of her car the entrance is lit up with two lights.
Why does Loomis leave his car behind when he gets "arrested" by the Marshall. Yes I am stretching it here!!!
Dr. Loomis shoots out the Marshall's car window but when the car spins around and heads back to Haddonfield it is open and NOT partially broken like it was just a second before.
Why is Michael wandering around, he must have a idea that Laurie was taken to the hospital. Didn't he hear the sirens and such?
Doesn't the police give a description of Michael to the media? The press knows that Laurie Strode survived but the Haddonfield Police Department fails in this sense. Maybe people would have noticed Michael walking in downtown Haddonfield.
After Bud tells Jimmy to "listen to ole' Bud" you can see Karen working in the hallway as Jimmy walks away. Remember that Jimmy walks to his left and the hallway that he is walking in doesn't match the hallway that leads away from the break room.
An obvious flub, you can see the protective suit protecting Dick Warlock in the ending fire scene. You can also see gloves on Michael's hand but Michael has never worn gloves in the series!!!
Deputy Hunt says "he's dead... I saw him" but when Hunt arrives to tell Brackett about Annie he never once looks at the burning body of Ben Tramer.
Loomis tells the neighbor to "call the police" and all that stuff but he doesn't mention Laurie. Shouldn't he tell the neighbor about Laurie's wounds and tell him to call a ambulance??
Dr. Loomis shoots Michael five times after he breaks his way into the hospital but is out of ammo when he tries to shoot Michael in the face in the operating room. It is a six-shooter so he must have one bullet left!!! Perhaps the producers got something right because he did shoot Michael seven times at the beginning of the film. He does reload later in the movie though so he should have six bullets right??
Janets voice is dubbed when she says "she has had a reaction to the medication". I think this flub is due to the fact that a scene was cut out. At one point Laurie tries to escape and Jimmy stops her, she is later drugged by the hosptial staff. Hence the reason of her drugged induced state and the power is also cut by Michael during this scene. Check my Halloween II TV cut page for details.
In relation to the last nitpick, Laurie is acting fine and then all of a sudden she has a reaction to the medication. Is this right? I understand the medicine does take time to kick in but because the director cut out the scene previously mentioned (in the last nitpick) we only see Laurie drugged at the beginning of the film.
There is no mark on Jill's back or any blood on her back after her murder.
In relation to the last flub, if you look closely there is no blood on Michael's scalpel after he kills Jill.
The blood that is drained from Mrs. Alves is obviously fake. I guess fake blood technology wasn't very good in 1981.
After shooting Michael several times throughout the night, you would think that Loomis would realize that bullets are not going to stop the Shape. He gives the gun to Laurie even though it isn't going to work anyway.
The scene where young Laurie meets a young Michael is another nitpick that I must point out. I know Michael is much older but his eyes are now brown and much smaller then they were in 1978.
The font of the word "sheriff" on Sheriff Bracketts squad car appears different in Halloween II. When Loomis yells "stop over there...look...look!" and they exit the car make sure to examine the word "sheriff". Then pop in the original Halloween and find the point where the squad car first pulls up to the Myers house and the two exit again. The size of the word is different even though it is the same night and the same car.
When Dr. Loomis and the sheriff are in the school. The sheriff is going around looking at everything with A flashlight. What the heck is up with that? The lights were turned on!
Why would the nurse who had never worked with Dr Loomis before (she is being briefed on the details about Michael in the car at the start of the first film) be entrusted with the task of bringing Dr Loomis back to the hospital, or with the sensitive information about Michael and Laurie's connection?
The Haddonfield Memorial Hospital staff is incompetent. You would think that Janet would mention to somebody about Mr. Garretts findings. Also, why can't she operate a radio? She must be really stupid!
Why doesn't anybody look for Mr. Garrett earlier in the film? He disappears after reporting that the store room had been broken into. But I guess Janet screwed up again because she didn't report Mr. Garretts findings to Mrs. Alves or anybody else.
The police are just as incompetent. After three teenagers are murdered in a small town and a fourth potential victim escapes you would think that the police would want to question, or at least protect their sole witness to these heinous crimes. But I guess the Haddonfield police have a history of incompetence because they are victimized again by Michael in Halloween 4, Halloween 5 and Halloween 6. Not only are the Haddonfield cops terrible in 1978, they never seem to improve.
I don't know about you but who ever heard of a hospital with such a small staff on hand. It seems a little unusual that a hospital staff would consist of only one doctor, one head nurse, two other nurses and one assistant. I know it is late at night but you would think there would be a few more people around. After all it is a hospital. Considering how immense Haddonfield Memorial Hospital is (it has wings), and the fact that it has an emergency room and surgical ward, it should not have just four nurses, one doctor, and two ambulance drivers staffed for the entire hospital, even if it is the night shift.
As the hospital staff gets massacred the patients never come out of their rooms to investigate. We know of at least one other patient because Jill goes and helps that person at one point. You would think that these people may have needed something!! Again I know it is late at night but I would think at least one patient might choose to investigate. But that would give Michael another person to kill.
Hospitals do not turn off lights in the hallways at night. (This is due to the fact that Michael cut the hospitals power but that scene is only available in the Halloween II TV cut.
Other than a patient that Jill responds to, no other patients are ever seen or heard throughout the large hospital, despite the fact that the maternity ward has several newborn babies.
The most famous mess-up is probably the fact that while Dr. Loomis shouts "I shot him six times," he actually shot him seven times during the film's prelude.
Another problem is when Loomis goes outside to look for the
Shape and notices that he isn't there. Loomis acts shocked even though he
already noticed the Shapes departure at the end of the original.
The police claim the Myers house is at "45 Lampkin Lane." The address
on the front porch clearly displays the number 709.
When Jimmy finds Mrs. Alves on the gurney bleeding all over the floor, he turns
to run out the door to get help and slips on the blood and knocks himself out
when his head the floor. In fact, he's laying right in the middle of the blood!
Later when Laurie is hiding in Jimmy's car, he gets in and the back of his shirt
is not a bloody mess at all, it's clean! Maybe he stopped to wash his
clothes.
When The Shape is drowning Nurse Karen in the scalding water, her towel suddenly
goes from being wrapped just below her shoulders to being tied around the waist.
I guess the producers had to get another breast shot!!!!
In HALLOWEEN, Michael Myers falls off the balcony in the backyard. In the
beginning of this one, however, the fall takes place in the front yard.
The security monitor showing Myers lurking around outside the hospital reveals a color stripe down the middle when it is first shown. This indicates that the footage was taped ahead of time. Some VCRs will have this color stripe for a short moment when you start to record something. It's a multicolored stripe that shakes around, and descends to the bottom and goes away.
In the scene where the boys ask Mr. Hunt about Ben Tramer,
Mr. Hunt says that "it's just a little past 11." Following this up in
the next scene Bud lures Karen into the room to kiss her and wish her Happy
Halloween. During this scene, as Bud reaches up to kiss Karen, his watch is
clearly visible and shows the time as 1:00!
In the original film, the pumpkin at the Wallace's house was very small
and fat, but in this film (which takes place the same night) you can see when
all the cops and reporters are at the house that the pumpkin changed in size and
the face got different as well.
The Shapes mask must be pretty tough. At the end of the film Laurie shoots Michael with the deputies pistol. But Michaels head, face and mask remain intact. It had to have blinded him because he begins to swat madly with his scalpel at the nearest noise But his mask remains fine. Pretty amazing if you ask me. Laurie must be s sure shot!!!!
Besides his face/mask, Michael must be pretty strong because he walks through a full sized window and door handle and then takes more bullets into his body and then he breaks through what should be a solid wooden door.
Loomis fills the room with flammable gas. He then lights a lighter that makes a flame, hesitates, and then ignites the gas in an explosion. The same sparks that ignited the lighter fuel would have ignited the flammable gas simultaneously.
When Sheriff Brackett looks at the dead body of his daughter, Annie, her eyes twitch just after he closes them with his hand.
Dr. Mixter, though drunk, is still allowed to work on patients. Whoever heard of that?? Plus he performs surgery on Laurie!! If I were her I would sue but Mixter was killed anyway.
It's supposed to be a continuation of the same night from Halloween (1978), yet the landscaping for the Wallace and Doyle houses has changed considerably. Also, the jack-o'-lantern on the front porch of the Doyle House has changed completely.
Continuity and Other Production Errors
In
the beginning of the opening credits the corporation film company Dino De
Laurentis is misspelled "Dino De Laurentiis
When Laurie is banging at the locked doors yelling "Help!", we see the Marshall pausing in the hallway just beyond the Coke machine(to the left of the frame),he turns around and starts jogging back the way he came. Now, when the scene resumes to Loomis opening the doors for Laurie to enter(and after Myers crashes through the door), Loomis starts firing at Myers and then it cuts to the scene with the Marshall in the hallway---only now he's *still* beyond the Coke machine when he should've been well past it(on his way back up the hallway).
(As seen by Myers 63)
Michael is shot though the eyes, well if you believe that then fine but why does he see throughout the rest of the series???
Just like in the first film, the trees are green but it is supposed to be October 31st.
When Annie's body gets wheeled out of the house and her father closes her eyes, her lids blink even though she should be dead.
When officer Hunt calls for back-up, He says the address is 45 Lampkin Lane. But, the number on the house is 709.
When Ben Tramer is hit by the police car, his body falls forward. In the next scene, he is standing straight up. A continuity error.
When nurse Karen (who is an employee of the hospital) parks her car, she parks in a "visitors only" spot. You can see the sign when Myers reflection is seen in the side view mirror.
There is a flashing orange light in the back of the marshal's
car, but when they turn around to head back to Haddonfield it is nowhere to be
seen. It is gone.
Michael Myers back peddles up a ramp when he falls from the balcony in the
beginning.
As the ambulance approaches the hospital, notice the hood of the ambulance has
red blinking lights. When they stop for the two people (the mother and the child with
the razor blade in his mouth) the blinking lights have moved down to
the front bumper.
When Michael falls off the balcony at the end of HALLOWEEN, he lands
predominantly in an area of the lawn that is more dirt filled. In this film, he
lands in a completely grassy lawn.
When Michael walks into the old couple's house, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD is showing on the television. At that point, the film is just beginning, with Barbara and Johnny first pulling up to the cemetery. Much later in the film, the security guard is also watching NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD on television, and it's the scene where the cemetery zombie is attacking Barbara in her car. This is no more than ten minutes later in NOTLD, yet it's way more than ten minutes later in the evening of HALLOWEEN II.
In the end credits of the film, it says NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD is copyright 1978, when in fact, the movie was made in 1968.
Sheriff Bracket's sideburns don't look the same as in the original film, even though both films are supposed to take place the same night.
If you pause the widescreen version of the movie at exactly 1hr 35min and 34sec (at the end of the film when Laurie is blown off of her feet by the explosion in the Operating Room). If you examine the right side of the screen you can actually see behind the "set" wall. You can see the vertical planks that are holding it up and you can see a coiled up cable of some sort hanging there. Fast forward three seconds to 1hr 25min 37sec you can see behind the wall again, only this time the scene is a little bit darker. If you watch closely from the moment the explosion goes off and we see Laurie in the corridor, you can see the wall on the right shaking making it obvious that this is a set and not a real corridor.
At the beginning of the film look closely at Lindsay and Tommy. They are played by the same actors but they are several years older.
If you listen closely, you can hear the faint sound of the buzzer for the nurse's call button before it actually goes off in the film (this happens twice).
When Michael submerges Karen's head in the "scorching hot" water, her face is burned beyond recognition, yet Michael's hand doesn't even turn red.
Compare Dr. Loomis in both Halloween and Halloween II, you will see that his goatee is a little different and he does appear a lot older. He must have aged faster than a ordinary human being during the night of October 31, 1978, perhaps is was stress!!
Since Michael was played by a different person in Halloween II, his movements and mannerisms are a little off. Nobody could play the Shape like Nick Castle!
You can tell that the wooden door that the Shape breaks through at the end is obviously fake and was prepped prior to filming.
Set in 1978, some of the clothing and hairstyles have noticeable characteristics associated with the early 1980's; particularly those of Alice and Karen.
Some Facts That You May Not Know
It is Halloween night in Haddonfield, Illinois. Six gunshots pierce the silence of this normally quiet town. Neighborhood kids trick-or-treating on the street stare as a man plunges off a balcony. A doctor from the county mental hospital rushes from the house. He has followed his patient, who escaped from the institution, back to Haddonfield, where fifteen years earlier he brutally murdered his own sister. The demented young man has already killed three teenagers this evening. Tonight's massacre has only begun!
This picks up on the same night as the original Halloween. Laurie Strode (Jamie Lee Curtis) is hospitalized with psychiatrist Dr. Sam Loomis (Donald Pleasence) close at hand. Michael Myers is still alive and well...............well pissed off that is, shambling zombielike to get poor Laurie Strode. Unfortunately, it is a weak premise and the film is the complete opposite of the original with too much violence. A head dipped into boiling water, a hypodermic needle thrust into a eyeball, a hammer claw to the skull, slashed throats are among the many murders.
From Leonard Maltin's Movie & Video Guide.
Explicitly bloody sequel is as bad as any of HALLOWEEN's countless clones, with maniac continuing to stalk Curtis on the same night on which the original ends. Scripted by John Carpenter and Debra Hill. Panavision.
This film is probably my favorite of the series but it does possess a weak premise. The best thing about it is that it occurs on the same night as the original. Since the first Halloween has a surprise ending, this film acts as a follow up. The film does overdue itself with the violence but it must be remembered that this film was made for other reasons. Friday the 13th and other slasher flicks had appeared in the scene by 1981 and in order to compete with these other bloody films, Halloween II is very violent. However, despite its premise problems, Halloween II is well worth seeing. I give Halloween II two and on half stars (**1/2) out of five.