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Now, before you say *snikt*, *stab*, go smoke a stogie, this isn't a straight up brawl. No, for a bit of flavor, we're saying that Snake-Eyes is sent out to kill a suspected Cobra agent, namely, Wolverine.
The final consensus was that Snake-Eyes could take it as long as he really prepared and got Logan in one blow, but if the Canucklehead got wind of what was going down, it was Snake-Eye filet for dinner.
Wolverine vs Snake-Eyes
Hey all.
Nice choice, Matt. At first glance this match seems to be a pretty close one. Snake Eyes is the ultimate ninja, silent and deadly; Wolverine is a great fighter, too, though something of a brawler most of the time, and he has his adamantium and healing factor to back him up. The fight would be a close one, Snake Eyes doing hit-and-run type stuff, driving Wolvie into a berserker rage and pushing his healing to the brink; in the end, it would all depend on whether or not Snake Eyes got close enough to give Wolvie a good hit.That's all only at first glance, though.

Wolverine is NOT just a brawler: he's had extensive training in the shadowy arts from the best of the best in Japan. Take that into account, and the whole thing changes. With the two using essentially the same tactics, Wolvie's advantages--both genetic and man made--are just too much, even if Snake Eyes is the superior ninja. Can you say "snicht"?

I do have to say, though, that if the match were just based on sheer coolness, Snake Eyes wins hands down. He's one badass, break-dancin' mofo.


man wolvie is the man. he would win no matter what. wolvie is my favorite. so shush it yo.
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dave, stop talking like boles.
okay, the thing is, snake eyes would win. he would. since he's being sent to off wolvie, he'd have all the time in the world to prepare. so, like a good ninja, he'd do some research, and have some basic, if not comprehensive, ideas on what logan's capabilities are.
so he's prepped, know's where logan will be, and get's the first swing. more than likely, he'd just sit back with a sniper rifle and shoot wolvie through the eye, straight into the brain. but for the sake of argument, we'll say he wants to be "honorable" and confront him. so he does. probably packing two swords, most likely not his uzi, although that would be good for distracting wolvie. bullets sting. even hand to hand, there's a good chance snake's could get the jump on him and slit his throat. he'd do something to counter logan's sense of smell, either stay up wind from him or mask his scent, who knows what ninja toys he has. and he can be really quiet. so he could pull off the stealth kill.
now, for the sake of argument once more, logan hears him and turns, snikt. fighting time. snakeeyes did his homework, so he knows the claws are made of adamantium. therefore, he either snags an adamantium sword, very likely, or he simply doesn't parry and thus his sword doesn't get cut. now, they're fighting styles are drasticly different, wolvie being a berserker and snakeeyes being cold and calculating, a minimum of action with a maximum of result. yes, logan did train in the orient, however, most of his training was samurai, not ninja. he's picked up a lot here and there, but he's no master. on the hand to hand fight i'd have to give it to wolverine, simply because he can afford to make more mistakes and heal from them, where as if snakeeyes get's caught once he's lunchmeat. but even with that, we've got two scenarios for snakes, one for logan. Snakeeyes wins.


Well let's think about this. First you have one of the greatest ninja's that ever was. Then you have a mutant with an incredible healing factor, heightened senses with addition of admantium grafted to his skeletal system. Well considering that Snake Eyes has no super human abilities other than ninja skills, I think this would be one of Wolverine's greatest challenges. Snake Eyes definately has the quickness advantage. He is a ninja which means he excells in stealthfullness. He would be able to hide in the shadows, however Wolverine might be able to sniff him out. Being as smart and tactical as Snake Eyes is, he may have accounted for this and possibly covered himself in foilage and whatever, so his scent would blend with the rest of the cover. Allowing himself to sneak up on Wolverine, and even though he does have an incredible healing factor, it has its limits. Snake eyes would have just enough time to do what it takes to finish him off!! Of course it could go the opposite way, cause after all both of these opponents rock major balls!!


o my bad. i didn't read the part about it being like a mission, i thought it was like a fight til death. my bad


hey---
i'm gonna have to go with you on this one, matt. he has the time to plan out his attack. that equals death to logan. how he does it i don't even know, but he's smarter than i am. snake-eyes makes a single stealth attack which leaves wolverine very dead.


I think Snake Eyes would go to take him on, realize he's not the bad guy, but it'd be too late to back off since he's mute and Wolverine ain't listening! It'd make for wacky antics!

I guess I missed the part where you said if this was adamantium wolverine or not, but I assume so. There'd be an exciting Predator or Brotherhood of the Wolf-esque hunt/battle involving traps and stuff on Snake Eyes' side. Snake Eyes would "win," but without killing him, uh, somehow


hey---
he ain't mute.......if i remember correctly in the first issue of the new G.I. Joe comics, he manages to speak one word after many years of silence, "Scarlett." who is such a hot piece of ass, she'd make any cock-carrying member of the male sex talk. i'm out.


hey---
whoa!!!!!! i'm a huge retard. i don't know what i was thinking. snake-eyes didn't talk in the first issue of the new run. it was in the issue when scarlett was killed...i believe by a shot from the baroness. i'm claiming temporary ass-headedness...yeah, that's a word. i promise. i'm really out this time.


I still have to disagree. How many Snake Eyes-esque characters has Wolverine fought through the years? He's lived to tell about it, but most of them haven't. There's no doubt that Snakes is the man, and possibly the coolest guy ever, but I just don't think he could handle Logan in a one-on-one.


Okay, so you guys are saying Snakes wins because he plans the whole thing out so well that Wolvie can't help but die.

Hey. If I could plan it out for like a year in advance without somebody knowing, I could off him pretty easily too. If you base the whole thing on planning, of course Snake Eyes could kill Wolvie. Heck, Dave could kill him--assuming he didn't wet himself first and let Wolverine know he was there by the smell of his soiled pants. The point is, giving Snakes an infinite amount of time to set the whole thing up makes the argument sort of pointless, doesn't it?


okay, no, not really. we're not saying infinite time or anything, this is a scale of like maybe a week, tops. Given a mission, sent out, completes mission. And I'm pretty sure that I couldn't kill wolverine regardless. It still requires a certain level of skill and experience to be able to pull it off. All I'm saying, basically, is that snake eyes is in control of the situation, he's initiating the conflict.


Even if Snake Eyes did have an infinite amount of time to prepare, Wolverine would have an equal amount of time. Therefore, your lame excuse for a counterpoint doesn't work.


eh.. so more or less we arrive at a point similar to the one in the superman v. batman match. it could be either one on any given day.. although batman is a badass.. i almost jizzed my pants at the end of the first book of dk2


dude, no. See, the point of an assassination is, you don't tell them you're coming. it's a SURPRISE. so wolvie wouldn't know about it before hand


Okay. After talking to Bradley about it over the weekend, I'll agree that, with the current scenario (i.e., Snake Eyes has a week to plan and all of GI Joe's resources to back him up), Snake Eyes would win. Assuming, of course, that he can do it in ONE hit. If he can't manage it in one fell swoop, though, he's done for. Wolvie knows he's out there and takes steps.

In short, as long as Wolverine has no idea its coming and Snake Eyes has time to plan, Snakes can win, if he takes no more than a single attack to do so. The deck seems a little stacked to me, though. Later.


yeah, sounds about right to me:]


hey---
exactly because snake-eyes isn't dumb enough to even try the hit unless he can do it in one fatal attack.
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