When Jitschi says that he will choke Jmmanuel (pronounced Yie-mahn-ou-el) when he sees him, Meier tells him that he will not do so because Jmmanuel is a wonderful human being who cannot help having been used against his will as the foundation of a new religion. Jitschi apologizes and says that his emotions have overcome him. Asket gives the men clothing from her home world to wear under native clothing of the period that they will be traveling to and they dress accordingly. They all carried a language translator with them.
Then, Asket guided the ship into the year 32. Their landing site was the same location as where they had left in Jordan. It appeared nearly the same except for changes in the mountain range, villages, and the small town of Jerusalem. They exited the ship and walked through rugged mountains for four days toward a small walled village. They ate food that Jitschi procured before their start and Asket acquired a bag of coins of that period. During their long walk, Asket explained how to behave and not appear conspicuous to others, until they reached the Mount of Olives near Jerusalem, in front of the village of Bethphage.
They noticed some men coming their way. Asket said she knew that Jmmanuel and his followers would be walking past this way at this time. Jitschi becomes excited and angry that Meier is so calm. Meier tries to calm him, but to no avail. So, Meier hits him in his nose and causes it to bleed. This brings Jitschi to his senses once again and he apologizes for his behavior. The group of men, sat near a path and Jmmanuel walked toward them. They exchanged greetings in peace. Jmmanuel directs Jitschi to go over to the other men who will nurse his injury. Without a word, he obeys and the men care for him. Jmmanuel calls Meier by the name of “Eduard” and indicates that he knows of Asket. He also complements Meier for his actions because Jitschi had lost control over his senses and was in need of pain. Meier is impressed and says that he now knows why Jmmanuel is thought of as a god-like superman. They exchange complements and sit together on a stone to talk.
Jmmanuel explains that he knows them through the force of his spirit and is able to foresee these times. He is surprised that Meier understands about his clairvoyant abilities and recognizes Meier’s ability to do the same. He says that living provides for many things and that it is necessary to walk their own way with honor, under the laws. Jmmanuel agrees to answer some burning question from Meier before he asks them. He says that the lessons that he gives to others are not new and are well known to the scribes who disregard, distort, and interpret them for their own purposes. They abuse him with their lies because he preaches against their lies.
They have constructed cults out of the old lessons of creational laws and the laws of the spirit, which take away the freedom of the spirit and force their followers into bondage for profit. The have committed heresy by humanizing the Creation as a human being which they call God. Their God is a ruler over humanity and all of his dominion. It is never allowed to be equal to the Creation for it is considered to be above everything else and nothing else exists.
They accuse him of lying because he offers the truth and the truth is not always requested. When someone like him speaks about the truth, he will be hated and persecuted. Jmmanuel says that he will not escape persecutions for this is his destiny. He tells Meier that he will also be persecuted because he will perform his mission in the future as Jmmanuel has done. He says that his coming days will be very difficult and he feels pain and bitterness inside because he knows what lies ahead. But, he will not evade his destiny. People of this world have been forced into need and confusion by the wrong lessons of scribes, preachers, and all of those who walk in their footsteps.
He says that, truly, this will lead the world into very much need and misery. The scribes and preachers are hypocrites that preach lies, deceit, and distortions of the truth. Outwardly, they appear as being pious and good, but inside they are full of hypocrisy, deceit, and falsehoods. They are worse than any snake. They want to be great in spirit, but yet they have no brains. All those who are just, have been murdered by them, from the first prophet whom their fathers and forefathers killed, to those that they will murder in the future. They murder in the name of love and goodness, but actually do so for profit and power.
They have altered the lessons of spirit and the laws of Creation into a very wicked cult and cause humanity to worry about death, revenge by their blood-greedy god, and angels armed with swords. They educate humanity to fear the magnificence and unity of Creation. They deny its existence and substitute it with their god and saints. This is truly the way things are and the future will become very evil. There will be fear and howling in the world. Innocent human beings will be sacrificed and their blood will deeply soak the dry earth. The fate of this world and humanity will truly become very hard.
Jmmanuel is righteous and fights against injustice, which is thought to be evil within him. Yet, he knows the truth, the wisdom of the knowledge, and has the force of spirit to fulfill his mission. No amount of hate against him will cause him to go astray. The truth is more important than the temporary pain of the body, which may be tortured and damaged, but the truth and spirit can never be killed. Even though one can see this truth in him now, this will change in the future. From his having been a human being, a cult will cause very evil consequences. He will be slandered as being equal to the Creation. Although he knows of these things occurring in the future, he cannot change them. He will live as a human being, perform his mission, and suffer his fate of bodily death after 83 years. Although his body will be very old, his spirit will remain unbroken. The coming event will change nothing except for being thought of as a martyr. The event causes only bodily pains, which will drift away by force of the spirit and he will end his mission.
Jmmanuel recognizes how sensitive Meier is to be able to understand his grief, which is something that no one else has been able to do. He notices how far Meier has progressed in his evolution in comparison to others in his world. He considers Meier to be well educated with very high spiritual abilities, which is something that he had not realized before. Meier asks if he has written down any of his lessons for posterity. Jmmanuel says that only certain circles of society are able to write. He has learned to read, but does not have the time to write down his lessons. His lessons are actually the lessons of all great times, of spirit, and of the laws of Creation, which are eternal. These are things that he learned while he was in India. So, the lessons that he preaches are not originally from him. He knows that his lessons will be altered, but there is no chance to change the coming events because the masses of erring and distorting human beings are too large.
However, the truth will not be lost because it will remain in written form at a secure place. Among his followers, he has a scribe, by the name of Judas Iscarioth, who writes down the important parts of the lessons and events, which will be well preserved and shall endure the times in order to transmit the truth for posterity. He tells Meier that the scripts will be found in his time and that he will reveal their contents for all of mankind. Although humanity will not be mature enough for them at that time, within two decades, a grain of truth will find a bit of nutritious ground. Meier asks where the scripts are hidden and if he could retrieve them in his time. Jmmanuel says that he knows where they will be hidden and, at a later point in time, he will tell Meier the exact place. But, it is not provided for him to take the scripts from their hiding place as this is provided for someone else.
At first, the scriptures will be doubted and accused of being lies and falsifications, but the eternal truth will overcome all. Many attempts will be made to cast its truth and authenticity in diffused light and falsity. One lie will be that, although the scripts are of worth and contain certain truths, they do not contain the actual lessons because they are the lessons of someone else with the name of Jmmanuel. Another lie will be that he is not Jmmanuel, but someone else. It will also be pretended that Jmmanuel and Jesus Christ are two different persons. But, this will only be accepted by ignorant and misguided spirits. The breakthrough of truth in the future has already become destiny.
There is now a search being conducted for the scripts, to destroy and use them as proof against him. One script roll was stolen from the writer and was given to the preachers and scribes. A preacher’s son named Juda Iharioth seized it secretly out of the bag of Judas Iscarioth in order to sell it for 70 silverlings to the bailiffs. It will be used to accuse Jmmanuel of blasphemy. He ordered Judas Iscarioth to write the scripture another time and preserve it well so that it endures the future times. When Meier asks if Judas is the one that is said to be a traitor, Jmmanuel confirms this, but says that he is not the culprit. The one who will surrender him to the bailiffs is the same one who stole the writings and sold them. His father will spread the lie that Judas is the traitor in order to preserve the preacher’s name of Iharioth. It will be said that because one of his followers betrayed him to die on the cross, his lessons cannot be true. But, it will be Juda Iharioth who hangs himself in the bloody acre.
Jmmanuel warns Meier that he will be accused of lying, and of blasphemy, but that he should not care about that because he has learned a lot in his previous life and has learned the truth about Moses, which will enable him to stand up to his enemies. Those who will accuse him will be totally unreasonable and not be able to recognize the truth for themselves.
He warns Meier that many of these people will make attempts on his life. So, he must be watchful and protect himself from them. Their actions are always directed toward a fanatical demand for blood. Meier is also told to beware of his critics and those who believe themselves to be knowledgeable about all things and live for their own silly perceptions of the world. Outwardly, they appear to be very educated, but inwardly, they are poor in spirit, ignorant, and full of evil thoughts. During Meier’s time, all human unreasonableness and cultic heresies reach their height of power.
When Meier tells Jmmanuel about him being called Jesus Christ in the New Testament, he says that this is a false name and an evil abuse because, until that time, that name has never been spoken. Only at a later time, will that name be originated by a human being with a confused spirit. The Paulus is one of his worst enemies for designating him as the Creation and using Christianity as the foundation for his own wrongful religion of Paulianity. Being named as Jesus Christ grieves Jmmanuel very much as he never wanted to be called this. This name will be spoken by mislead human beings who live in spiritual confusion and are unable to come to terms with the truth. However he knows that this is inevitable for human development as mankind must first go wrong in order to find the truth. Only truth-conscious individuals will call him by his correct name. He offers lessons of truth for all of eternity and performs no injustice by this. But, when someone refers to him as Jesus Christ, they are accusing him of injustice and lies.
Many will not believe this because their understanding about the truth is incorrect. They will say that these are only half truths that only serve to find the real truth. This is true when all things are considered as many ways do lead to the truth. But, what is offered is the truth in the truth. This truth does not lead to the truth, but is the eternal truth. It can never be altered and always keeps the same worth. It is the final, existing, and eternal truth for all periods, whereas religious truths are changed constantly.
Meier asks if it is proper for people to celebrate his birthday as Christmas. Jmmanuel says that many feasts are celebrated in honor of important people who have died. However, this is no more than a cult function, and a means to enrich a few others. Honor should be given to those worthy of it and to preserve the memory of those who have passed on. It should never be given in the form of religious cults or for riches. The Christian religion is interspersed with many kinds of heresies and falsehoods about his birth. His birth is celebrated on the 24th of December each year, but it is actually the day of a blood-thirsty false deity from Persian lands and does not even come close to his date of birth. The future counting of time does not correspond with reality or of his time of birth. From Meier’s understanding of time, Jmmanuel’s date of birth was the third day of the second month. This date was changed because of wrong transmissions, false conceptions, and the novelties within the counting of time.
Meier asks why Jmmanuel often uses the word, “Truly” when he speaks and is told that it is used to substantiate his words. It is only a peculiarity, just as everyone speaks with different expressions. By interspersing this word, he is able to bypass many descriptive words that would need long interpretations. So, he uses “Truly” to mean, “It is as I say”, “It is the truth”, “It really behaves so”, and “It keeps its integrity”.
Jmmanuel notices how much Meier is educated in spiritual matters and that he lives ahead of his own time by about 300 years. Because of this, he is told that he will suffer greatly in his time because humanity’s spiritual knowledge will be at its lowest beginnings. Meier asks Jmmanuel how far ahead that his spiritual knowledge is in relation to his time and is told that he lives in Meier’s future time. He states that his spiritual development is 2,000 years ahead of his time and that Meier is 300 years ahead of his time, which makes them both at about the same level of development.
Jmmanuel also says that, during Meier’s time, he will not be active on Earth as he is in the year 32, but that he will occupy himself with other missions that will not cause him to become too far evolved so that he can remain close to earthy concerns. At the time of his rebirth in the 20th century Jmmanuel will have a spiritual evolution level of only 128 years in advance of the world’s time. But, with hard work during the next 20 years, this level will increase to 359 years in advance of his time and eventually reach a level of 400 years when he leaves the earthly world and returns to another world’s region.
Meier asks Jmmanuel how his lessons should be presented when the New Testament says that he is the son of God, that God embodies the Creation, that God is the heavenly father and redeemer of mankind, etc. He is told that religion remains always wrong and only spirituality is truly justified. Religion and spirituality can only become united when the truth is purified again. Religion and spirituality can form a harmonic unit when dogmas and heresies have been removed and destroyed.
People of Meier’s time already recognize this profound truth and seek to replace the wrong, purely religious facts with spiritual forms. But, their spiritual forces still stay at their infancy and they remain captured by cultic religions. They have much confusion and are unable to separate the wheat from the chaff. Unfortunately, they always search for the truth along wrong pathways and do not recognize that it lays much nearer to them then they assume. It will be very difficult to convince humanity of the truth. It will always be obtained by fighting.
Meier asks why Jmmanuel has not spoken at all with Asket who just sits nearby and listens to their words. He expresses concern that she might feel slighted and left out. Jmmanuel recognizes his feelings for her, but assures him that she is there in peace with the knowledge that they are all equal and that no one feels left out of their circle. She has brought Meier there into the past so that he could recognize the truth. She already knows it in great detail and needs no explanations. Asket says that this is true and Meier is calmed by this.
Jmmanuel says that their time for the present day is over and that he must go on his way, but they will meet again and speak further about many other things. Asket, Meier, and Jitschi follow Jmmanuel and his group. Jitschi had made friends with the followers of Jmmanuel and no longer cared about Asket and Meier. Unfortunately, the notes about all that occurred thereafter were lost and Meier was unable to recover them.