Breath Play (aug 9)

? melanie_as_light says, "well..will wait for the meeting..but my interest is more of the line the difference between restricting oxygen..in comparision to blood flow..and if it has the same effect..but will wait on that point"
? melanie_as_light giggles
? Jordains_devotion smiles
? Jordains_devotion says, "I can intially tell you it is a lot more dangerous with the blood flow and many do not even touch that one"
Master_Acolyte is back. Master_Acolyte says, "grins.. has 24 years of martial arts experience... and can tell you ther is a BIG difference."
Master_Acolyte says, "smiles"
texasteddiegirl says, "okay....i have comfie chair, drink, breath mints, notepad and pen to doodle with, and light pen to shine on someones head if they start to day dream....i am ready for the meeting....."
? Jordains_devotion says, "welcome back maven" ? melanie_as_light says, "well isnt that is the difference between asphixation and breath play essentially asphixation would be stoping the blood flow..breath would be stopping the air flow.."
? melanie_as_light umm what the hell guess we did start..*giggles*..
ï crystal_maven says, "is back, slips in quietly"
? melanie_as_light says, "welcome back maven.."
Master_Acolyte says, "no asphix is lack ofair.. "
ï crystal_maven says, "smiles to light and dev, thanks...."
? Jordains_devotion says, "strangulation is the stopping of blood through the carotid arteries"
Master_Acolyte says, "but I have been known to be wrong.. lol"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. "
? Jordains_devotion says, "suffocation is lack of oxygen via air"
? melanie_as_light says, "see that is a good point..i cant even get my terms right" Master_Acolyte says, "that is also known as asphixiation"
Master_Acolyte says, "lack of air.. "
Master_Acolyte says, "the main difference is time..."
? melanie_as_light says, "but is lack of air..due to lack of blood flow?"
Master_Acolyte says, "and amount of damage.. "
? Jordains_devotion says, "asphyxiation covers both and deals with the oxygen level within the blood stream to the tissues"
Master_Acolyte says, "no.. "
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean..lack of oxygen in the blood?"
Master_Acolyte says, "a proper strangulation takes 7 seconds for loss of consciousness.. "
? melanie_as_light says, "so its both then..i thought so.but breath play doesnt necessarily hve to be lack of blood flow.."
Master_Acolyte says, "lack of air.. "
Master_Acolyte says, "a couple of minutes"
Master_Acolyte says, "big diff."
? melanie_as_light says, "7 sec?..but you can hold breath for approximately 3 mins or so.....7 sec with both stopping of blood flow and air?"
Master_Acolyte says, "I have strangled people in judo class to loose it .. in under 10 seconds many times"
texasteddiegirl says, "so our brain needs the blood flow more than it needs the oxygen flow?"
Master_Acolyte says, "also had it done 2 times and ONLY 2 times to Me."
? Jordains_devotion says, "brain tissue does not hold the blood oxygen as well as other tissues within the body so it needs a constant supply of fresh O2"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. "
crystal_maven leaves Master_Acolyte says, "what the D/s people want is the lack of AIR.. not blood..."
texasteddiegirl says, "which one is used in breath play?"
Master_Acolyte says, "air"
Master_Acolyte says, "its the feeling of looksing it slolw that gives the "russ""
Master_Acolyte says, "rush.."
? Jordains_devotion says, "holding your breath or cutting off the air circulation the O2 levels in the blood decrease slowly...whereas with strangulation you are depriving the brain of blood"
texasteddiegirl says, "so the air deprevation is a total body experience"
Master_Acolyte says, "I can say this.. from personal experince.. hold a strangulation for over 15 seconds.. and you come close to the line of no return."
? melanie_as_light says, "now the thing is..i dont think this is the case with most but i could be wrong..but the last thing you want in a scene is to lose counsciouness..restricting air is one thing..but having a girl pass out..that is useless...that is well past the point of sub space correct?"
texasteddiegirl says, "raises hand....has actually been there.....is now shaking......can't imagine that being good D/s"
? Jordains_devotion nods with Acolyte
Master_Acolyte says, "well.. I can talk of one BDSM experience I had in real life.. "
? Jordains_devotion says, "#1 rule if going to play with breath control know the anatomy and basic physiology of the neck region and the respiratory systems"
? melanie_as_light says, "good point dev...."
? melanie_as_light says, "is this the one where the girl strangled herself Master Acolyte?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "without that knowledge it is hard to comprehend the ramifications of the play and the emminent risks"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. "
? melanie_as_light says, "if i am not mistaken..this isnt a common form of play is it dev?..i mean..something like this takes all out trust, knowledge and expericne"
Master_Acolyte says, "has anyone here seen it in real life?"
Master_Acolyte says, "a BDSM deprication scene?"
? melanie_as_light says, "because one false move..and you are plaing with someone elses life in your hands"
? Jordains_devotion says, "it is a huge debate within the community"
texasteddiegirl says, "should really depend on if the couple knows what they are doing and enjoys it"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. I tend to go towards teh nay side as well."
texasteddiegirl says, "edge play?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "because it is difficult to tell when someone is in an emergency fight for their life...some people can die from preventriclar contractions up to 36 hours after play"
? melanie_as_light says, "and Master Acolyte..i have experienced it minutely..more of the line..almost a hypnotistm effect with breath play..rather then actual restricting "
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. "
? Jordains_devotion says, "there is absolutely no safe way to play with breath control...it is knowing the risks and what you are willing to take and to help minimize them"
? melanie_as_light says, "you mean deve even after the scene is over..there is dangers to it?"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. sooner or later it will bite you."
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes mel"
? melanie_as_light says, "i didnt know that...i couldnt imagine that either.."
? melanie_as_light says, "and i would think anyone with asthma or any type of breathing trouble this form is out of the question"
? Jordains_devotion says, "although PVC's are rare...they are very deadly...it causes cardiac arrest "
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes"
? Jordains_devotion wonders if she is still here
? melanie_as_light says, "i was listening to a story of this guy who would enjoy putting plastic bags over a subs head..ductaping it around the neck..and go into extreme breath restriction"
? Jordains_devotion hopes he had safety scissors on hand
? melanie_as_light says, "your still here..just a tough topic..especially a shocking one for me in a sense...love to learn more aout it..but even listening to this new information..shocking to me"
? melanie_as_light says, "i dont know..*sighs*..wishes JP was here..he was telling me about various demos they did at a TES meeting"
texasteddiegirl says, "o0 (wishes JP were here too)"
? melanie_as_light says, "he has more experience with this then i do...although he is willing to teach me..umm.no coomment *giggles*"
texasteddiegirl says, "giggless"
? Jordains_devotion says, "it is not difficult to know what to do to restrict another's breathing...it is more a matter of knowing the risks and watching for things"
texasteddiegirl agrees with Jordains_devotion whole-heartedly.
texasteddiegirl says, "what are the danger signs?"
? melanie_as_light says, "now..cpr when you breath for another one..that can be done with breath play as well..where the Master will literally breath for the sub..with a tube or something..my question is..although you do expell about umm i think 70% oxygen is the percentage but dont quote me on that..my question is..how much can a person liteerally breath for another..before the oxygen content is less"
Master_Acolyte says, "depends on if they exchange the same flow.. "
Master_Acolyte says, "it gets less each breath.. "
Master_Acolyte says, "this is also has the added risk of placing both parties at a lack of oxigen situation.. "
Master_Acolyte says, "oxygen.. lol"
Master_Acolyte says, "needs a new typist.. lol"
texasteddiegirl says, "then who would keep it safe?"
Master_Acolyte says, "perhaps a 3rd party?"
Master_Acolyte says, "or... "
? melanie_as_light says, "that is what i mean..the same air gets less each breath..so how long can one breath for another"
? melanie_as_light says, "greetings kitten.."
Master_Acolyte says, "the Dominant could block the tube with His tongue..breath through the nose.. and then cintinue using the same air again."
Master_Acolyte says, "the submissive gets the deprivation sloly.. "
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Thank you mel and greeting A/all, i do not mean to interrupt. Please excuse my tardiness. *smiles and takes a seat*"
Master_Acolyte says, "slowly.. "
? melanie_as_light says, "right..that is right..Master Acolyte.exactly what i mean..but if each breath gets less and less..or it doesnt matter..because the dominant is getting fresh breath"
Master_Acolyte says, "nods.. W/we want the submissive to experience the deprivation on the one in "control" smiles"
? melanie_as_light says, "umm then there is the breath play hoods..i spoke about this last week when we were talking about hoods..but there is this hood..yikes scaredhell out of me...but..it is for two subs..and it is connected by a tube..each one breaths for the other.."
Maitre_Remi enters ? Jordains_devotion says, "one thing everyond should know or may already know that any amount of decrease of oxygen to the brain causes some damage...and brain cells are irreparable"
Maitre_Remi says, "bonsoir to A/all "
? melanie_as_light says, "greetings Maitre Remi"
Maitre_Remi says, "slides in quietly .... shhhhhh"
Master_Acolyte says, "that is why blood deprivation .. ie: strangulation should be avoided at all costs.. "
? melanie_as_light says, "you lose brain cells drinking beer or any type of alcohol..but is it that many dev..if not taken to the extreme..that it would cause permanant damage?..i mean as long as it is controlled..and done in a safe manner..thne it should be alright"
? Jordains_devotion says, "it is just not with strangulation...even lowering the oxygen levels within the bloodstream causes irreverisble damage...although with brief play it is minute"
? Jordains_devotion says, "there is that risk"
Master_Acolyte says, "yes.. always the risk should be weighed."
? Jordains_devotion says, "the longer you play the more damage is done"
? Jordains_devotion says, "and that includes if you restrict breathing for a few seconds, then return to normal breathing and then repeat.... it adds on "
? melanie_as_light says, "here is a question"
Maitre_Remi listens
? melanie_as_light says, "will doing that cause any type of shock or something i mean by restricting the air flow..and then immediately having full blown fresh air..will that cause shock?..or does it have to gradual be put in..i mean more and more air.."
texasteddiegirl says, "i don't know why it feels good.....what is the rush that the person feels?.....why is this sensual?"
? melanie_as_light says, "by constantly switching from deprevity to normal air..and back and forth..does that cause a shock to the tubs of some sort......"
? Jordains_devotion says, "the rush primarily comes because all your bodies emergency bells are ringing.... "
? melanie_as_light says, "well texas..can have you all do an experiment if you are all open minded...but it is up to you to do so.."
texasteddiegirl says, "okay"
texasteddiegirl says, "<----- is open minded on Wednesdays"
? Jordains_devotion says, "and the sensuality primarily comes from the level of trust within the context of this play... you are literally entrusting your life in this person's hands"
Maitre_Remi says, "<---- is open minded every other Wednesday and twice on Sundays"
? melanie_as_light says, "it is more of the line hypnosis type breath play..not to be compared with physical restriction..but can sort of give you an idea of the rush it can give..although try expanding that 10X in real life"
? melanie_as_light giggles..hmm sundays.the holy day of religion..umm no comment.
texasteddiegirl smiles at Maitre_Remi.
Master_Acolyte says, "what do you mean by hypnosis breath play mel?"
Maitre_Remi says, "depends on your version of religion ... oui"
texasteddiegirl says, "oui"
crimson_kitten_mott nods to Maitre Remi and listens to mel.
? melanie_as_light says, "well it is more meaningful in real life..but..can i get everyon to try an experiment with me..and if i had umm..vc..wuld have been 100% better..but try to use your imagination and listen to what i say do it.."
Master_Acolyte . o O ( BRB phone... )
? melanie_as_light says, "if everyone takes a deep breath..normal breath...."
? melanie_as_light says, "then slowly exhales it out.."
? melanie_as_light says, "now take another deep breath in"
? melanie_as_light says, "and exhale it out.."
? melanie_as_light says, "now when you take a deep breath in.."
? melanie_as_light says, "hold it.."
? melanie_as_light says, "hold it for a moment..and feel the intensity of your heart"
? melanie_as_light says, "now exhale it out slowly"
? melanie_as_light says, "intake another breath..."
? melanie_as_light says, "hold it longer"
? melanie_as_light says, "hold it...you should feel your blood beginning to rush and your heart quicken"
? melanie_as_light says, "even may feel heated..but realease"
? melanie_as_light says, "works better to close your eys as well..but..umm..cant see this..lol..that is why it is better if person is face to face.."
? melanie_as_light says, "but point is..each time you take a breath..and hold it..."
? melanie_as_light says, "and hold it longer and longer and longer...you feel yourself getting an almost rush a high.."
? melanie_as_light umm you all can relax..because doing it yourself can be more interesting then here..*giggles*
texasteddiegirl hiccups.
Maitre_Remi says, ".oO( cantreadthelettersnowisfeelingkindagiddyandlightheadedmaybeineedapeanutbutternbaconsandwichtomakemoifeelbetter )"
? melanie_as_light says, "hiccups??..*giggles*"
? melanie_as_light pokes Maitre Remi..i will give you p&B.
? Jordains_devotion says, "teddie did you get the hiccups from that exercise?"
texasteddiegirl says, "no but i did feel the heat"
? Jordains_devotion smiles
? melanie_as_light says, "good question dev..if you get hiccups..that a bad sign?"
Maitre_Remi says, "did you speak of self-hypoventilation yet ?"
? melanie_as_light says, "aww you want to hypeventilate..just get a paper bag..works well on both ways.*giggles*"
? Jordains_devotion says, "no...it is just irritation of the phrenic nerve which controls the diaphragm"
texasteddiegirl says, "i hypoventalate when i get excited...it is like a funky ashma attack....very unattractive and i end up having to breath in a bag.....is it still safe to do that?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "a note of caution here.....never play with breath control alone....that is when most people die"
Maitre_Remi says, "but really is breathplay something along the lines of altering your state of conciousness ... "
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes teddie.... and you should to rebalance your homeostasis"
Maitre_Remi says, "versus something sexually erotic ...."
? melanie_as_light says, "not saying tie a noose around neck..no way..but a simple exercise like that...helps to understand a little bit..although if i was there in the room with all of you..would have been a little more then just here online."
? melanie_as_light says, "umm..breath play can be very erotic.."
texasteddiegirl says, "especially the sharing the breath part....Mmmmmmm that is nice"
Maitre_Remi says, "melanie to you p&B is very erotic .... I mean that in a good way"
? melanie_as_light says, "not too sure what you mean by counsiousness..unlsess you mean achieving sub space"
? melanie_as_light giggles..i could make anything erotic
texasteddiegirl says, "o0 (oh wait that was in the seventies and we had herb with the breath)"
Maitre_Remi says, "consciousness ... what we all have while we are awake ... beer alters this consciousness, wine, drugs, etc."
? melanie_as_light says, "well..ok..does breath play produce an endorphin rush..or is is more of the line lack of air..that causes it?"
texasteddiegirl says, "like exercise?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "adrenaline"
? melanie_as_light says, "oo so it works on adrenaline...that would be becaus almost fight or flight with breath play your body responding to that?"
texasteddiegirl says, "phone call....be back in a minute"
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes"
? melanie_as_light says, "greetings kitten..."
? melanie_as_light says, "ok."
? melanie_as_light says, "umm what about ideas..for breath play..any new interesting ideas"
castle_kitten says, "smiles, thank you mel....will sit quietly by mon Maitre"
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean ok..plastic bags..um dangerous but it is done..hand restriction....word of mouth restriction..maybe even a pillow...or some type of covering" ? melanie_as_light says, "nose plugs.."
Your buddy jpbear63 is on pager
? melanie_as_light says, "ummmm ..."
Master_Acolyte says, "were gags touched on?"
Maitre_Remi mon turn to poke melanie at the mention of gags
? melanie_as_light says, "umm..gags..that is a good one.."
? melanie_as_light arggg dont remind me Maitre Remi
jpbear63 enters Your buddy jpbear63 is in chat ? melanie_as_light says, "ooo JP is comming too"
? melanie_as_light says, "*giggles*..there he is..greetings JP SIr..*smile*"
jpbear63 says, "Good eve to you all."
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..but with gags..the mouth could be restricted..i mean i am not too sure..but are there gags..that restrict breathing through mouth entirely..and then say covering up the nose..will be the way to restrict breathing?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "if you are going to use gags with BC then make sure it is a simple closure or one that can be removed within a second or less"
? Jordains_devotion says, "the major risk here is if the bottom vomits and then breathes it in...if aspiration of vomit occurs seek emergency medical attention"
jpbear63 says, "Did I miss the breathing tube portion."
? melanie_as_light says, "is vomiting a common issue with breath play?.."
? melanie_as_light cringes..brushed upon that Sir...
? Jordains_devotion says, "for some people yes"
? Jordains_devotion says, "the reaction of the fight or flight response can irritate the gastrointenstinal system"
? melanie_as_light says, "i would see why gags are a bad idea..but what induces the vomiting.."
? melanie_as_light says, "ohhh..ok..now i understand.."
Maitre_Remi says, "lets see ... lack of oxygen to the brain"
? melanie_as_light says, "so umm a big heavy meal wouldnt be recommended before this type of play"
jpbear63 says, "No....it's the gag reflex."
Maitre_Remi says, "I need all the oxygen I can get"
? melanie_as_light says, "but a gag reflex when stopping of air?"
jpbear63 says, "The vomitting is caused by gag reflex..."
? melanie_as_light says, "ok..what causes the gag reflex"
? Jordains_devotion says, "not always JP...sometimes it is the simple stress from the body sending out alarms of what is perceived as emminent danger"
jpbear63 says, "Ok."
? Jordains_devotion says, "but the gag reflex is common as well"
? melanie_as_light says, "so then breath play works on the body responses with flight of fight response..because it sees this as a danger......umm..are there any more bodily things that can occur..umm what about releasing of bowels?"
Maitre_Remi says, "Bonsoir to A/all .... I'm going to withdraw from the conversation. Soyez bien to A/all"
? melanie_as_light says, "wishes you well Maitre Remi..and kitten have a wonderful evening you two."
? Jordains_devotion says, "never heard of that one mel"
Maitre_Remi nods politely to the room
castle_kitten says, "bon soir, all, am retiring as well, be well A/all"
? melanie_as_light says, "neither have i ..i am clueless..*giggles*..just wondering"
? Jordains_devotion says, "okay the basic responses that happen with breath control that is physiological is metabolic acidosis, respiratory acidosis, respiratory alkalosis"
? melanie_as_light says, "umm..ok..are there any visible signs..that can be seen that one should be aware of"
? melanie_as_light says, "which in english dev means??"
? Jordains_devotion says, "the sympotoms from these are headaches, drowsiness, hyperventaliation, cardiac dysryhythmias, gastrointenstinal distress, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, blurred vision, and abdominal pain"
Master_Acolyte leaves ? Jordains_devotion says, "these physilogical effects really are not a major issue, your body can correct them rather easily"
? Jordains_devotion says, "in laymen terms... the body's pH levels drop and causes an acidic state"
? melanie_as_light says, "and this is what can case the pvc later on even up to 36 hours later..?"
? melanie_as_light says, "is when yoru ph levels reach acidic?"
? Jordains_devotion smiles
? Jordains_devotion says, "no"
? melanie_as_light says, "argg..well i tryed..*giggles*"
? Jordains_devotion says, "for your normal body conditions yet"
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes even"
? Jordains_devotion says, "PVCs are caused with low oxygen and the heart begins receiving extra "pacemaker" signals"
? Jordains_devotion says, "This is to kickstart the heart into action so oxygenated blood will reach the brain"
? melanie_as_light says, "does this inflow of oxygenated blood from a deprived systme cause some form of shock?"
? Jordains_devotion says, "these signals make the ventricles contract irregularly. If one of these makes the heart contract at the wrong time it can lead to the heart beating irregularly, ineffectively and finally to ventricular fibrillation"
? Jordains_devotion says, "a form of cardiac arrest"
? melanie_as_light says, "but this doesnt happen often right?..this is just extreme cases"
jpbear63 is away (Auto-Away) ? Jordains_devotion says, "it is undetectable within the bottom....and you may even seem well after the play has ended"
? Jordains_devotion says, "it is difficult to tell how common it is"
? melanie_as_light says, "hmmm.."
? melanie_as_light says, "yikes..this gives me the shudders"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "May i make a point?"
? melanie_as_light listens to kitten
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Or rather, simply something i saw..."
? melanie_as_light says, "what did you see?"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "As far as breath play was concerned, a group of doctors and scientists did experiments on people (breath play), had everything wired so that they could check the heart rate and all that..."
crimson_kitten_mott says, "And they were still unable to tell that something was going to go wrong...they could not see a problem coming."
? Jordains_devotion says, "that is true kitten"
? Jordains_devotion says, "PVCs do not register on the ekg"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "So i would just suggest caution. *smiles and slips back into the shadows to listen*"
? melanie_as_light says, "is there a way to register PVC?"
? melanie_as_light am i really lagging?
? Jordains_devotion says, "no mel...even cardiologists rarely detect them"
? melanie_as_light says, "wow.."
? Jordains_devotion says, "unfortunately there is no safety measures that can be taken
" ? melanie_as_light says, "i dont know..this almost leaves me speechless.."
jpbear63 is back. jpbear63 says, "don't you mean breathless?"
crimson_kitten_mott snickers. ? melanie_as_light says, "but yet almost curious as well..i mean breathing is one of the most precious things..and we take it for granted at times"
jpbear63 says, "sorry."
? melanie_as_light giggles..ha ha yes breathless as well.
? melanie_as_light says, "but..is there any ideas for breath play itself"
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean we spoke of gags, nose plugs, bags, hypnotism..any other ideas to do it?"
jpbear63 says, "mental imagery."
jpbear63 says, "never even touching the other person."
? Jordains_devotion says, "hanging"
? melanie_as_light says, "see hanging is an interesting thing..because as long as you dont jerk the body..which can break the neck a person can truly hang by the neck for a few mins"
? Jordains_devotion says, "mel...with "hangingin" you don't even let the person's feet leave the ground"
? melanie_as_light says, "um ok..then i am thinking extreme.."
? Jordains_devotion smiles
? melanie_as_light says, "so you mean hanging by the neck..on tippy toes..sort of thing"
? Jordains_devotion says, "even a drop of an inch can cause a spinal fracture or pinched nerve"
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes"
? Jordains_devotion says, "and the knot by one of the ears, so pressure is pretty much on only one of the carotid arteries"
? melanie_as_light says, "umm..so hanging off ground is out of the question"
? melanie_as_light says, "i mean..i know you can break the neck..but..i dont know what i am thining..actually thinking of old hangings they used to do back then."
? melanie_as_light says, "the problem they had many times was that when the flipped the switch and the floor caved in..didnt cause the neck to break so the person was just swinging still alive"
? Jordains_devotion says, "old, old hangings, like the medieval times they didn't allow the neck to break because they wanted to torture the person.... but then people became humane and began snapping necks"
jpbear63 leaves Your buddy jpbear63 leaves chat ? melanie_as_light says, "the room went speechless?"
? melanie_as_light says, "ummm"
Your buddy theknightmaster is on pager ? melanie_as_light says, "i dont know what to say actually"
? Jordains_devotion says, "mel..have you ever done breath co
ntrol with another person?"
? melanie_as_light says, "only in the form of hypnotism.."
? melanie_as_light says, "two different occasions"
? Jordains_devotion says, "sis...just be very very careful with it"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "Excuse me, i don't understand...hypnotism?"
Your buddy jarl_elerikk leaves chat crimson_kitten_mott says, "If you've already covered this, i will just read the scrolls."
? melanie_as_light says, "noo.."
? melanie_as_light says, "i am sorry.."
? melanie_as_light says, "hypnotism..as in...relaxing of the mind.i dont know how to describe it..but by word to control another"
? melanie_as_light says, "deep breathing..telling a person to hold it..to stop it..invoking the image of stopping your breath"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "i just cannot imagine another person being able to control my breathing."
? melanie_as_light says, "umm maybe even a form of meditaion but another controlling it"
? Jordains_devotion says, "yes mel...what you describe is more like mediation than hypnotism"
? melanie_as_light says, "but the difference being the other person is controlling your thoughts to help you control your breathing"
crimson_kitten_mott says, "hmmmm, okay."
Your buddy master_greggor has gone off pager Your buddy master_greggor leaves chat ? Jordains_devotion says, "brb....have to help Master with something"
? melanie_as_light says, "dev i have to get going anyway."
? melanie_as_light says, "i wish both you and kitten well but it is getting late for me..and have a little problem"
? melanie_as_light says, "*Ihuggles*..and thank you so much for the meeting"

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