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Beethoven asks: ?

Sherry listens

Lavicka says: if you or someone/something gets blamed for every little thing that makes your partner upset, there is something wrong.

Lavicka says: nobody is THAT bad.

Lavicka says: nobody can 'make' someone do something negative against their will.

Lavicka says: take responsibility for your actions and ONLY your actions.

Lavicka says: also, don't let someone make you feel guilty for your thoughts, opinions or actions. they are yours to have and state freely.

Shadowman asks: is this BDSM or Taliban?

Lavicka says: guilt plays a big part in abusive relationships and is sometimes hard to catch.

Lavicka says: if you constantly feel guilty for your thoughts and needs, then you may want to take a look at what is making you feel that way.

Lavicka grins at Shadowman

Lavicka asks: yes, beethoven?

Shadowman says: sorry...

Beethoven asks: Isnt Gorean lifestyle like the beforementioned?

Lavicka says: it can be...

Beethoven nods

Lavicka says: the important thing to remember when it comes to gor is its roleplay... very important

Beethoven says: Ohh ok.

Lavicka says: as a roleplay relationship, we will assume that those who are involved in gor are working from a consensual base... theyve worked that out already

Lavicka asks: does that answer your question?

Lavicka doesnt know that much about gor... and you probably wouldnt like my answers on what i do know :)

Beethoven says: Thats ok

Lavicka says: ok :)

Beethoven says: I dont know much either

Lavicka says: next question:

Beethoven says: bout Gor

Lavicka asks: do you lie or leave out important information to protect your partner?

Lavicka asks: can you be honest with those involved in bdsm about marks left on your by your partner?

Lavicka exclaims: now thats a biggie!

Beethoven says: ooh

Beethoven says: hmmm

Lavicka says: if you cant even discuss your bumps and bruises with those INVOLVED with bdsm, then that should be a big warning sign right there.

Lavicka says: if you find yourself covering up for marks you have, making excuses for your partner, or hiding things from loved ones, you may have a problem.

Lavicka says: its very common for abuse victims to hide things or lie to others in their life to 'protect' their abuser or 'make it easier' on themselves.

Lavicka says: the fact is you should never have to lie to anyone about someone to 'protect' them.
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