Changing Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF or "tranny fluid") on the 850/s/v/70

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I believe that in order to properly flush your tranny, you only need about as much technical skill and common sense as you would need to change your engine oil. It is common sense that if you ran your engine without any oil then you would damage it. Likewise, the tranny needs oil when running. In either an oil change procedure or the ATF change procedure described below, it is possible to damge your engine or tranny if you do really stupid things. Read through the instructions carefully before you commence anything, and take your time until you are well acquainted with the procedure.

The original (JLFox) instructions to do this are now printed further down on this page.
I found that half of the process described was unnecessary and confusing.
Found immediately below is the easiest method to flushing your tranny, along with helpful piccies.
   

Important note.
First take a good look at the area at the top of the radiator.
The ATF fluid travels from the tranny through the upper hose and into the cooler.

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When you see this photo at Bay 13, 
note that the blue arrow indicates the direction in 
which you remove the hose from the cooler (ok, dah).
i.e.,The fluid flow direction is opposite to the direction of the blue arrow!

This has caught a few people out, with very messy consequences!
Thanks to Bay 13/Volvospeed for the original piccie
 


You need a 1/2" ID clear tube for connecting to the tranny hose, once you have separated it from the cooler.

Quote from a relevant posting:

"The lower fitting on the radiator is the return. 
Due to access, I flush from the top fitting. 

The retainer for the hose is a spring-type clip that I spread with snap-ring pliers."

(original post reproduced entirely at bottom of page)

I just used needle nose pliers to open up the clip, then slide it up onto the hose, so that the hose can be removed from the cooler.

Quote from another posting below:

"I suggest getting a new hose clip (p/n 6842411, $3.10 list)."

These things can break easily, though mine hasn't, after three flushes. I recommended to have a new one around 'just in case'. After the flush, mine was a little looser (less spring in the metal) so I secured the clamp tightly around the hose fitting with two small cable/wire ties. You definitely don't want this coming off whilst driving!

click on thumbnail image for larger image Here, a 1/2" ID plastic tube is connected to the top hose.
 You could clamp it if you wanted to, but I find a 1/2" tube to be nice & snug on the hose, and simply unnecessary to clamp.


 

click on thumbnail image for larger image You can also see the brass coloured connection to the top of the cooler, now bare. 
 I stuck a plastic top over it, to protect it from dirt whilst the flush was being done.


 
click on thumbnail image for larger imageYou only need about 1 metre of hosing. 
(I bought two metres and, as you can see, 
it's obviously too long ... )


 

Now you're ready to start flushing.


Here's another quote from the method below, quoting the relevant bits.

Add 2 qts of tranny fluid thru dipstick opening
(I like the Mobil 1 Synthetic- used 11 qts total.

Tranny actually holds 8 qts so you're not wasting much.)

Tranny in P.

Idle engine until bubbles appear in fluid.

Repeat fill and idle cycle until fluid runs clean.

While idling, with parking brake on, run shift thru each position for 4-5 seconds.

Careful not to overfill tranny after last cycle.

Note: whatever you do just don't let the tranny run dry. Click here for brief info on the danger in letting your tranny run dry (see the first of the posts)

This won't happen if you stop the engine whenever bubbles are produced at the clear hose. If the hose is a snug fit, which it should be, the bubbles you see are definitely coming out of the tranny itself... and it's a clear sign that you should be stopping the engine idle & replenishing with more new ATF.

My slight change to the method:
During my ATF flush (that I captured in the pics that you see here), I did not put in ATF first.
I just turned on the engine, and waited for ATF to pump out the hose.
After a brief time (~ 1 sec) ATF started flowing to my 10 litre plastic gerry-can,
and I continued idle until I saw bubbles, after about 2.5 litres,
and I then switched off the engine.
 

I didn't see any sense in putting in fresh ATF at the start that would just get contaminated by the dirty stuff that we are trying to get out. So I emptied out the tranny (to the 'bubbles' stage) first, then I started replenishing (so as to not let the tranny run dry).
So after the bubbles appeared, I then put in 2.5 litres of fresh ATF and started it up again. 

click on thumbnail image for larger imageThe funnel setup that I use to get the fluid in to the dipstick hole.
(If you do this, make sure to always check the level of the smaller funnel so that it isn't overflowing, unless you enjoy great pools of ATF on your car and garage/driveway floor!)


 

Engine running, gerry can filling, and approx. 2.5 litres later, the bubbles appeared in the hose again.
I Switched off, and topped up another 2.5 litres.
Ignition on again, and by the time 7.5 dirty ATF litres were out, fluid from the out hose was now running nice & red.
Depending on the condition of the fluid you are changing, this might take a little more or less flushing.
You have to use your own judgement here; obviously when you see the same colour out as you are putting in,
the ATF inside the tranny could be safely said to be clean.
It can be difficult to see the outputted fluid as being clean: make sure you have good light behind the clear tube for the best judgement.


So once you are satisfied that the ATF coming out is clean, it's time to put the hose back on the cooler.
Then top up the ATF slowly, checking the dipstick, to get it to the right level.
Remember that the ATF fluid level is measured whilst the engine is idling, it's not like the engine oil level dipstick measurement which is with the engine off.

Do not overfill the tranny with ATF, this is a bad thing to do.

I make sure that levels are right by getting the fluid within the dipstick range.
Then I take for a ten minute drive to warm the tranny a little and check the level again.
Top up if necessary.

Quote from a post below:

"Drive the car a few miles allowing all gears to engage and recheck
fluid level warm. Some cars take another 1/2 quart."

Make sure that your clamp & connection to the cooler is OK while you're at it.
If you are using your old clamp and it is a little less inclined to bounce back, you
might want to put a strong plastic wire/cable tie around it for a little more 'security'.

Note that you have flushed everything but the cooler with this method. I don't believe it's necessary.
See post below by Dave or click the link on the tranny running dry & read the first post if you need consoling that this is OK!

Congrats, you have just flushed your ATF!


Results.

Note: I changed this ordinary dino ATF after just 11000 kms,
or just under 7000 miles. Call that overkill if you may, call me anal.
It gave a year of service, and some do recommend a change every year.
(However, I wouldn't bother doing it so often with Synth ATF.)
The oil did not look anywhere near as bad as it did when I
did the first flush at 57000 kms.
Then, it seemed very dark brown though its smell wasn't too bad.
I did it anyway (had to get these photos somehow ).
 
dipstick prior to change (11000kms old)

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dipstick after flush

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rag indicating colour of fluid after 57000 kilometres

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rag indicating colour of new fluid

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Older posts are here:


Another helpful message which added to one of my brickboard postings re. ATF flushing...

MESSAGE #10060486:  Re: Advice Needed - Flushing Transmission Fluid
     AUTHOR:  RussB <rbertrand02@snet.net>
     DATE:  Tuesday, 30 January 2001, at 6:07 p.m.
     Response To #10060465:  Re: Advice Needed - Flushing Transmission Fluid
     Author:  Michael in Sydney
     Date:  Tuesday, 30 January 2001, at 3:20 p.m.

I've done my ATF twice just as Michael describes. It works great. I suggest
getting a new hose clip (p/n 6842411, $3.10 list). 12 qts should be enough oil
to do a good job, 18 an excellent one.

BTW, ATF goes into the cooler from the top hose and exits out the bottom. If
you use the "official" Volvo method of flushing, you attach the clear plastic
hose to the fitting that is unscrewed from the transaxle.

RussB in CT



And another useful comment ...

... posted by Dave the Volvo Tech  on Saturday, 18 November 2000, at 7:57 a.m.
...in response to "transmission fluid" posted by Andrew P.

                       Andrew-
                       The lower fitting on the radiator is the return. Due to access, I flush from the top fitting. I have made up a
                       hose with the fitting from a scrap radiator, so I don't know what size hose will fit. The retainer for the
                       hose is a spring-type clip that I spread with snap-ring pliers. I flush 6 quarts through the trans then
                       connect the line and add 3 quarts. Drive the car a few miles allowing all gears to engage and recheck
                       fluid level warm. Some cars take another 1/2 quart.
                      --
                       Dave the Volvo Tech



Here's the original flush method that I reprinted from the brickboard.

As should be obvious from the details above, the items marked with the red asterisk are not necessary.

Thanks to "JLFOX, formerly jlfox" for this brickboard posting
on Friday, 1 December 2000, at 5:29 a.m. ...in response to
"Re: Transmission Fluid.....Now I Am Confused" posted by Eddie W. in FL.
 

                       Eddie,
                       This topic has been the subject of lots of discussion. You may want to check the archives. My advice to
                       a FL resident (heat) is to flush the fluid with a synthetic like Mobil 1. I've done this on 3 Volvos. The
                       first, an 850 because it was starting to get clunky. Volvo now has a service bulletin which suggests
                       flushing for various symptoms, including dark colored fluid and burnt smelling fluid. I fully agree with the
                       advice to do it every 30 to 50 K, depending on your driving habits, etc. It is a reasonable simple
                       process to flush yourself without getting under the car. I have posted the procedure outline and will do
                       so again below. I definitely am on the flush side of the discussion rather than drain and fill.
 

Below find a summary of the official Volvo flush method. I've done it and it works.

                       Car on ramps, blocks, jackstands, etc. *
                       Drain tranny fluid into pan. Plug is at bottom of tranny below axle and runs in same axial *

                       direction as axle.. Replace plug using new washer. 18 Ft lbs. *

                       Remove battery and tray to get access to top of tranny. *

                       (Air pump is mounted under battery tray.)
                       Remove hose on top of tranny by loosening nut. Hose is taper fit into tranny. *

                       Plug tranny hole. *

                       (Connect battery to car using jumper cables to avoid having to reinstall it) *

                       Fit clear plastic hose to reach drain pan over end of tranny hose. *

                       Add 2 qts of tranny fluid thru dipstick opening (I like the Mobil 1 Synthetic- used 11 qts total.
                       Tranny actually holds 8 qts so you're not wastiing much.)

                       Tranny in P. Idle engine until bubbles appear in fluid.

                       Repeat fill and idle cycle until fluid runs clean.

                       Replace hose, battery tray and battery. *

                       While idling, wlith parking brake on, run shift thru each position for 4-5 seconds.

                       Careful not to overfill tranny after last cycle.
 

                       I now recommend the alternate method which skips draining the fluid thru the plug and
                       battery removal. Instead disconnect the upper fluid hose at the radiator. Make sure you
                       have a spare retention clip as they have been known to break. Also have a 5 ft length of 3/4
                       or 7/8? ID plastic hose * and a hose clamp to put on the radiator fitting since that is where the
                       fluid will exit. All else is the same. Good luck.

OzBrick; * note also that 1/2" ID / 13 mm is the tube size necessary.
 


OZbrick Summary: I think that this is as easy to do as changing the engine oil, and you don't have to get under the car.
Good luck!



 
 

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