Subject:         850 fog lights
Date:             Sat, 30 Jun 2001 11:04:58 -0400
From:            "billy ray"
To:                quanta@goconnect.net

Hi, I'm writing for two reasons.  I need help trying to locate the dummy plug and harness that terminates behind the battery as detailed in the Tony
Giverin write up on fog lights. I stopped just short of removing the airbox due to running out of time.  Perhaps you could post this in an edited form
and get some responses.  As I'm writing this I'm speaking to my local Volvo dealer who is telling me some of the 96 and 97 850s did not come prewired
and in which case they'll sell me another harness for $40.00.  I imagine that will take me to just behind the battery.  I'll actually see if I need it or not but my mechanic could'nt find it either.  The other point is the redundant part nos. in the write up.  The relay harness part no is correct, the relay part no is 9494424 however, in case you want to keep your posting correct.

the progress of this thread can be monitored locally (as the brickboard link is now dead.)

Fog Light Kit?[850][1995] Tony -- Wednesday, 18 April 2001, at 1:19 a.m.

 Does anyone know where I can get a fog light kit for a 1995 850. I am having no luck, it does not have to be oem, just a nice one. Anyone info would
 help.

 Thanks

 Tony
 --
 Tony Souza 1995 850 GLT 68K

 Well the OE should easily be available from your local Volvo dealership.

 And ANY foglight small enough to be custom mounted in the ports of the front "skirt" of your car should work.

 Do you want foglights that will actually function as foglights were intended to? Or are you just looking for looks?

 PIAA makes some pretty intensely bright foglights that are pretty small that should fit in the openings. The OE looks great, but isn't all the functional.

 Tony,
 The following article was just published in the latest issue of "Rolling" magazine. Hope it helps...
 
 

 --
 Tony G, '94 850GLT, '82 240DL (mint) July '99 "Rolling" cover

 Depending on your situation, you may be able to get away with not buying a secondary switch to turn your fog lights on and off. On my 95 850 turbo,
 there was already a foglight switch located next to the dimmer switch which controlled the single rear foglight--I ended up tapping my front fogs to that
 switch as well. Works fine and I only need to hit one switch to turn on both front & rear fog lights when the fog rolls in.

 Are these the same "fogs" that come with the S70? I've heard the ones on the S70 are VERY powerful. Maybe those are DRIVING lights I'm thinking of?

 Dear Sir
 Try www.swedishautoparts.net
 They could send Genuine Volvo to You
 Thanks Anders
 

 In repsonse to my duplicate of a posting on the installation of front foglights (http://au.oocities.com/ozbrick850/lighting-ffogs.html),
 someone just emailed to me regarding a problem (and a part number change) when installing front foglights. The entire msg is on the above
 link. In the msg they stated:

 "I need help trying to locate the dummy plug and harness that terminates behind the battery as detailed in the Tony Giverin write up on fog
 lights...As I'm writing this I'm speaking to my local Volvo dealer who is telling me some of the 96 and 97 850s did not come prewired and in
 which case they'll sell me another harness for $40.00. I imagine that will take me to just behind the battery."

 Can anyone who has done this mod (maybe Tony himself?) give us a bit more info?
 thanks
 --
 michael in sydney

 If you do have the harnesses already installed they should be located on either side of the car attached to the bumper. You should be able to
 feel around for them but it will probably be easier to lift the car and look for them.
 --
 1998 S70, heavy mods; 1980 242, It starts at least.

 Michael,
 I'm surprised that some models do not have the pre-wired harness...news to me! The article which was posted in both the CVC and VCOA
 newsletters had duplicate part numbers as supplied by Volvo. I have since received an e-mail from an individual who gave the correct part# for
 the relay. The part number should read, 9494424. I'm not clear on your original question, what specific problem are you having?
 --
 Tony G, '94 850GLT, '82 240DL (mint) July '99 "Rolling" cover

 Tony Giverin
 I posted in the Aftermarket Forum on the duplicate part nos. I also wrote to Ozbrick. The Volvo dealer in my area tried to pass it off as a type o
 and told me I didn't need it. I ended up going there and looking it up myself with the help of the general manager, an old high school friend.
 Anyway, there is no harness as described to be found in my car, on either side, anywhere under the hood. Volvo reported that some 96 and 97
 850s were not pre wired but could not tell me why,(same dealer). So, There is one more harness I need that will get me to the area of the
 battery that I ordered and will be getting tomorrow, it cost $33.00 (US). I don't have the part no. now but will post it after I pick it up in the event
 you or anyone else may need it.
 --
 billyray

 billray/ian/tony
 thanks to you all, I'll put this thread up on my site when billyray has posted the part number.

 --
 michael in sydney

Subject:         The continuing saga, aka fog light pain
   Date:         Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:09:31 -0400
   From:        "billy ray" <v85097@hotmail.com>
     To:         quanta@goconnect.net

Hi Michael,
I'm writing back to you again hoping you might have an email address that I
could reach Tony by.  I thought maybe he could help and I really didn't want
to continue to post the matter although I may have to.  I have yet to get my
fog lights working, having a couple of small uncertainties still.  first
off, the relay harness p\n 9494424 that I bought has all the connections
Tony described plus one more, in my case.  It is black about one inch sq.
and multi-pin.  Knowing how Volvo likes to keep their colors the same in
terms of matching plugs up, no where under the dash can I find the black
mate.  I have found a green and a white plug just about on the firewall
under the brake pedal that the both of them look like either one would be
it, for this 4th connection from the purchased harness.  Also, when I
removed the blank cover plate just to the right of the rear fog light
switch, there was a connector for the switch right there?  Lastly, the lamp
harness p\n 9134580 Has a single plug on one end and two on the ends that
would take you down to the fog lights.  In trying to locate the plug behind
the battery I came to realize, (thanks to the online Volvo community) that
the plug I was looking for might be found tucked up into the front bumper,
indeed it was, two actually, one on each side.  these plugs are the same as
the plugs on the lamp harness, all are female! I tried to trace these two
seperate lines back but have yet to be able to find them back to the source.
  The single plug end of the lamp harness probably would have plugged into
the the plug that Tony described as being near the battery.  My point being
or my question is now, I'm wondering if the car is pre-wired to the point of
needing to have just the dash switch put in place and the lights connected
up in the front?  I thought yourself and Tony may find this interesting as
well as maybe offer some suggestions.  I may just try the simple approach of
the switch and lights and see if they work.  If I actually have to use the
relay harness then The mystery connector issue still remains for me.
Thank you also for how you handled my previous concerns, you run your web
site very professionally, it's nice to see.  I noticed also that Tony edited
his write up, what a pro.  It's a nice feeling to encounter these sort of
things on line.
Perhaps maybe you could just forward this long winded, (sorry) letter to
Tony.
Thanks again,
Bill