Steps to diagnosing & correcting tranny probs
on the 850
The logical sequence of troubleshooting.
From all the discussions I have had (or read) with Volvo techs, tranny
techs and on the brickboard, I have made up my mind regarding the sequence
to follow when you see transmission problems. It seems like the most logical
sequence towards fixing potential transmission problems is as follows:
Number one: Don't panic!!! Don't give $2500-3000 US / $3500-4500 AUD
to Volvo or a tranny shop just yet! A lot of tranny shops will tell you
that the transmission is completely shot when it may not necessarily be
the case. It may be the case, but it may be due to bad fluid or PNP
switch.
Stage One - Information Gathering:
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Check your transmission fluid and levels. If it smells burnt or is not
a clean red colour then this may be indicative that it needs replacing.
Wipe the dipstick on a white tissue/rag/paper to see the colour clearly.
(My ATF looked a light brown this way, but when I flushed it out, it looked
like a dark, opaque brown in the translucent white container.
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Check your transmission fluid levels. Levels are checked when the car's
engine is running and either/both when hot & cold (different levels
on ATF dipstick for hot & cold).
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Have a look under the battery area and see if the gear position selector
switch has got crap all over it from the battery. This could indicate a
PNP
fault, as could loose connections that may be discernible with a "jiggle
test". See reference to this in Dave's brickboard posting to me found here.
Stage Two - Your personal transition to Mrs. or Mr.
Fix-It
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"ratchet clean" the gear position selector switch. To do this, move it
rapidly between L and P about 15-20 times (with the engine off) to clean
the contacts in the PNP.
The switch is full of grease & three heavy duty contacts. It accumulates
a lot of crap over time. Many report that it is most liable to become faulty
in cold weather.
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Get more than one expert opinion, just in case you might be throwing away
heaps of bucks needlessly. You should seek the advice of at least one each
of tranny shops, dealer, and independent Volvo specialist if you can find
them. Then with the information found on this site and elsewhere, make
an informed decision on your individual circumstance.
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last resort: transmission overhaul/replacement. Ouch!
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Advanced: check out volvo TSBs on auto
transmission repair. You can go to alldata
and join to read all of the volvo 850 / 70 TSBs. Checkout the demo product
first, it has plenty of info. on transmission work. Here's a sampler
of what you might see in one of the more simple TSBs.
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Get someone to do it for you. When it has to, Volvo Australia typically
just puts in new trannys rather than reconditioned ones (- so someone that
works there told me, anyway; sounds wise to me). Take consolation in the
fact that the car is worth it (just think of the hospital bills & (economically
unquantifiable) pain that you/your family/friends might save with it, or
the (also economically unquantifiable) great drive)...
Obviously this approach varies from the cheapest to the most expensive,
in that order.
Of course, if you want to try the most expensive solution first for
peace of mind, and it is your right to do it that way if you so wish.
Amazingly to me, some people that have passed by the Brickboard forum
seem to have taken that attitude!
Me, I would prefer to spend four grand on another nice holiday to Phuket
than pay the tranny shop proprietor to do the same!
Needless to say, I'll be flushing my ATF every year, or whenever it
comes off the dipstick more brown than red, or if it smells like less than
clean ATF...
That's my opinion, anyway.
Good luck!
If you have any experiences,
facts, hints comments or data that you think might be useful on the site,
please
and I will post it, with
an acknowledgement of your contribution (if you so wish).