on-reflection-digest      Monday, August 9 1999      Volume 01 : Number 1807



gg: from: Steve Hackett website
gg: ELP Review
gg: Al DiMeola review anyone?
gg: Re: Al DiMeola review anyone?
gg: ELP review next day!
gg: Roye Albrighton chat
gg: RE: In appreciation of Mark
gg: RE: In appreciation of Mark
Re: gg: ELP review next day!
nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?
gg: Re: GORGG or What's in a name?
Re: nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?
gg: Knots Order Info
Re: nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:18:53 +0200
From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze)
Subject: gg: from: Steve Hackett website

Hi, everyone,
I just received this post and thought that maybe someone amongst you was 
interested in it.
Yours,
Carsten the Krautmeister

Nick Magnus' new album "Inhaling Green" has just been released in Europe 
and is now available from the Camino Records Sales Desk. 
http://www.camino.co.uk/sales/ 
We have signed copies for the first 50 people to order.

The album is instrumental and self penned apart from Nick's stonking 
cover version of George Martin's "Theme One" which was BBC Radio One's 
original signature tune.

Special guests include John Hackett who appears on two tracks playing 
Alto and Concert Flutes.

Read Nick's reminiscences of his early days with Steve at 
http://www.camino.co.uk/nick/

And for those of you unfamiliar with Nicks place in rock history...

Nick Magnus joined Steve's Hackett's band in 1978 starting an 11 year
odyssey. He toured extensively with Steve in Europe, the UK and the US and
appears on at least ten of Hackett's albums to date.

The latter half of the 80's was spent doing session work with many diverse
recording artistes such as China Crisis, Renaissance, George Martin, Mungo
Jerry, Johnny Mars, Cilla Black, Jose Carrerras, Brian May, Richie Havens,
Bonnie Tyler, Mike Batt, Classix Nouveaux, David Essex, Pete Bardens
(Camel), Duncan Browne, Chris Rea, and Colin Blunstone. In the 1990s he
achieved album chart success with his Project D albums and his first solo
album, Straight On Till Morning, was released in 1993.

In addition to this varied history as a composer, producer and arranger,
Nick also penned the soundtrack to the cult horror film "Bloody New Year",
and has subsequently gained much experience in working with music to
picture. He has also delivered lectures and seminars on many aspects of
music technology and production and written diverse articles on these
subjects for the music press.

John Wood
Camino Records


E-Mail: john@camino.co.uk
WWW:    http://www.camino.co.uk/
Sales:  http://www.camino.co.uk/sales/

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:53:37 -0400
From: "BuffNET" 
Subject: gg: ELP Review

Here's another review from my scrapbook.  This time it's ELP...that's
Emerson, Lake and Powell!  Author is Brett Milano and again, clipped from
the Boston Globe:



ELP: 'WE'RE BACK, AND WE'RE TENACIOUS"

The band is still called ELP, but there've been some changes since its '70's
heyday.  For one thing, the initials now stand for Emerson, Lake & Powell,
rather than Emerson, Lake & Palmer.  (Drummer Cozy Powell, a veteran
hard-rocker, replaced Carl Palmer, now with the band Asia).  Another change
is in the bands status: Once among the superstars of art-rock, ELP are
making a slow climb up the comeback trail.

Currently the band has been playing the same large arenas they used to fill
in the '70s.  But this year, on their first tour since 1978, they've often
played to half-empty houses.  "It's going to take us a while to climb back
to visibility," said singer/bassist Greg Lake by phone from Florida.  "In
New York we played to 26,000 people; in other places it's only been 5,000.
But that won't affect the future of the group; We're back and we're very
tenacious."  The trio brings its high-tech show to the Opera House tonight.

One thing hasn't changed: The group still favors a lofty, symphonic
approach, keyed to Keith Emerson's keyboards and Greg Lake's aristocratic
vocals.  In the '70s, ELP were one of the first bands to borrow classical
themes; to record with an orchestra, and to record side-long (or even album
long) suites.  While other art-rock bands - notably Yes and Genesis - have
moved closer to the mainstream, ELP are holding onto their trademark sound.

"We thought carefully about that, and decided to make a record for the true
ELP fans," said Lake.  "It was a case of 'dammed if you do, dammed if you
don't.'  If we came back and did hit singles, we'd get killed for it.  And
if we came back sounding like old ELP, we'd get killed for that.  So we
decided to do something genuine, something for our audience.  Some bands
like Yes have changed completely, and I won't knock them for it.  But we
thought that the music and the quality of ELP was worth preserving."

The original band split up in 1978, after running out of creative steam.
Their last album, "Love Beach," was a commercialized flop that the band
hated.  "We should never have made that album, but we owed one to the
label."  During their years apart, the band members kept a low profile:
Emerson released two film soundtracks and an import LP; while Lake made two
uneven solo records.  He also toured briefly with Palmer's current group,
Asia.  "They asked me to join, but I didn't like their direction - It was
too pop-oriented for me."

Always a love-or-hate band, ELP have taken some critical knocks over the
years.  "We can sound pretentious, and get up peoples noses," admits Lake.
"It's easy to knock a band that plays drawn-out songs, or that borrows from
classical music.  But we're not trying to educate people; we just enjoy it.
I think we deserve more respect than we get.  In the late '70s the punks
came about, and called us boring old dinosaurs.  So I'd hate to add that
they're all gone and I'm still here."



James F. Streeter - Design Engineer
Nuttall Gear LLC
Delroyd Worm Gear Products
P.O. Box 1032
Niagara Falls, New York 14302
Phone: (716) 731-5180 x239  Fax: (716) 731-9329
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Personal e-mail: v015eyjd@buffnet.net

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:05:48 -0400
From: "BuffNET" 
Subject: gg: Al DiMeola review anyone?

Boston Globe - Frank Conte



Al DiMeola
Electric Rendezvous
Columbia

Instead of relying on heavy jazz accoutrements of his Return to Forever
days, Al DiMeola is liberating himself and creating music now that could
please any Jeff Beck or Santana fan.  Although the album title is a bit
misleading - there's a couple of brittle acoustic pieces - DiMeola's dynamic
scope cuts across several styles.  The flamenco duets with Paco De Lucia
continue, on the fiery acoustics "Passion, Grace and Fire."  Percussives
which remain a backbone to DiMeola's music (he did, after all, begin his
career as a drummer) are brilliant.  The Santana influenced "Ritmo De La
Noche" mixes the spiffiness of Jan Hammer's keyboard punch with Lewis'
slicing percussion.  The best pieces search with a Promethean splash.
"Cruising" contains a rock-throbbing heart: "Guard Bird Change" sports
muscular leads.  The title cut is a fantastic display of ensemble work that
could make Jeff Beck jealous.  But it's not all flash and sharps.  On the
somber "Somalia" DiMeola etches a moody piece which anguishes at a nation's
pain.  It's no surprise that DiMeola keeps wracking up first place in
reader's polls in Guitar Players Magazine when he records such splendid
albums.




James F. Streeter - Design Engineer
Nuttall Gear LLC
Delroyd Worm Gear Products
P.O. Box 1032
Niagara Falls, New York 14302
Phone: (716) 731-5180 x239  Fax: (716) 731-9329
Corporate Web Page:  www.nuttallgear.com
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Personal e-mail: v015eyjd@buffnet.net

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:13:40 -0400
From: "drj_saro" 
Subject: gg: Re: Al DiMeola review anyone?

From: BuffNET 

>Boston Globe - Frank Conte
>Al DiMeola>Electric Rendezvous
>"Guard Bird Change" sports muscular leads.  

somebody's typo - "Guard" should be "God".
it's a Mingo Lewis piece performed first by the Tubes!

thank you for your time and attention.

Julius J. SAROKA
drj_saro@neo.rr.com
Cuyahoga Falls OHIO

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 14:33:18 -0400
From: "BuffNET" 
Subject: gg: ELP review next day!

Hi all!

I just posted a review of ELPowell that mentioned a concert that was to
occur in Boston the next day.  While I was looking through my clippings, I
found a review of the very concert the first article referred to!  Here it
is.  Author is Brett Milano and source is the Boston Globe.



ELP CAN'T BE EASILY DISMISSED

MANSFIELD - In the 197 0s they were Emerson, Lake & Palmer, one of the
definitive art-rock bands. In the '80s, after eight years apart and a change
of drummers, they're Emerson, Lake & Powell. But the sound has hardly
changed: They still represent art-rock with all its glories and pitfalls.
Tuesday night at Great Woods, they hit some lofty peaks and noisy valleys -
grand and majestic one minute, overly grandiose the next.

Tuesday's turnout was surprisingly small - only, one-third, capacity,
although the group's new album is in the Top 30. Despite the sparse audience
and the chilly weather, the group gave longtime fans everything they could
hope for. The songs stretched back to the first ELP album from 1970 and
included some mid-'70s, classically influenced epics ("Tarkus" and
"Pirates"), along with the radio hits "Lucky Man" and "From the Beginning."
There was even a pair, of songs ("America" and "Rondo") by Emerson's pre-ELP
band, the Nice. Luckily, they didn't draw heavily from the new album, which
is largely a lesser rehash of their '70s work.

New drummer Cozy Powell (formerly of Rainbow and the Jeff Beck Group) is a
rockier, more straight-ahead drummer than his predecessor, Carl Palmer (now
with Asia). But the group still hinges on Keith Emerson's wall of keyboards
and Greg Lake's aristocratic vocals. Emerson has his pitfalls - notably his
love for electronic sound effects - but he remains a brilliant player when
he keeps himself in check. He's also a fine, flamboyant showman: in the
encore he jumped on his Hammond organ, knocked it to the floor and stabbed
it with a dagger, all without interrupting his solo.

Emerson was responsible for both of Tuesday's highlights.  The first was a
short, graceful piano solo, "Best Defense," which proved his gifts as a
composer. The second was one of ELP's biggest hits, an adaptation of Aaron
Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man." Although it may seem tasteless to
turn a Copland piece into a rock tune, ELP made it work - thanks mainly to
Emerson's synthesizer solo, which scaled heights of high-volume joy.

On the other hand, the show's finale - another classical adaptation Holst's
"Mars, the Bringer of War" - was too heavy on gimmicks.  Instead of serious
playing, the piece was built on high-tech effects: laser lights, spacey
video and a long, tacky drum-solo. Songs like this explain why many critics
write ELP off as pomp rock dinosaurs. But In Tuesday's peaks, especially the
glorious "Fanfare," they could not be dismissed so easily.



James F. Streeter - Design Engineer
Nuttall Gear LLC
Delroyd Worm Gear Products
P.O. Box 1032
Niagara Falls, New York 14302
Phone: (716) 731-5180 x239  Fax: (716) 731-9329
Corporate Web Page:  www.nuttallgear.com
Corporate e-mail:  nuttall@nuttallgear.com
Personal e-mail: v015eyjd@buffnet.net

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:17:58 -0700
From: William Tindall 
Subject: gg: Roye Albrighton chat

Just a reminder folks,
	Live chat with Roye Albrighton today on Yahoo! chat, here:

http://chat.yahoo.com/

	Look in "Who's Chatting" for Cnektar or me, xf103rep.  Time is 21:30 GMT.  That's 9:30 p.m. in England, 4:30 Eastern, 1:30 Pacific.  

Hope to see you there!

Bill T

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:24:27 +0100
From: "Mark L. Potts" 
Subject: gg: RE: In appreciation of Mark

JEE,

> Interesting, to see a positive spin on a controversial LP.  I do get tired
> of the juvenile inability to at least allow for another person's interest
> in music not to one's own taste.  Newsgroups are full of "Attack and
> Defend" posts.  I don't think they belong in a discussion group like this
> one.  Especially since as GG fans we are supposed to be eclectic -- not
> snobs.  Right?  Just my opinion.
And, as it agrees with mine, it must be right.

> You wrote 'In the heat of the night' on the bottom of your post ... is
> that a reference to Whitesnake?  Now there's another band that takes a lot
> of shots, but they can be quite good at times.

Close but no cigar, I'm afraid. however, I will award you half points as it
could have been.

OK I'll explain. It was a reference to a) the Diamond Head track of the same
name - a much
maligned bunch of talented guys who should have made it but didn't - and I
also love the movie.

Whitesnake, I've got their/his albums, saw them a few times in the 70s/80s
and have to say they
were at their peak on the Ready and Willing Tour, in 81, I think it was.
David Coverdale, I dislike
intensely. If he were half as talented as he thinks he is, he might be able
to justify his huge ego. But, from
personal experience he is not a nice person. He is the only person I have
ever met who has flat out refused to sign
an autograph after a gig. He is the only person I know of who cancelled a
gig at the last minute because
"the stage isn't big enough" [for his ego].

I've finished ranting now :-)

Surfing with the Alien,

Mark L. Potts
The God of Thunder

np: Paul Rodgers - Now

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric 
Subject: gg: RE: In appreciation of Mark

I didn't know that about Coverdale.  Sounds like a Fragin Harzazz
fish-sucking Peshtak Bastich to me!  Got to avoid the bad language in
these posts.

JEE

- --- "Mark L. Potts"  wrote:
> JEE,
> 
> > Interesting, to see a positive spin on a controversial LP.  I do get
> tired
> > of the juvenile inability to at least allow for another person's
> interest
> > in music not to one's own taste.  Newsgroups are full of "Attack and
> > Defend" posts.  I don't think they belong in a discussion group like
> this
> > one.  Especially since as GG fans we are supposed to be eclectic --
> not
> > snobs.  Right?  Just my opinion.
> And, as it agrees with mine, it must be right.
> 
> > You wrote 'In the heat of the night' on the bottom of your post ... is
> > that a reference to Whitesnake?  Now there's another band that takes a
> lot
> > of shots, but they can be quite good at times.
> 
> Close but no cigar, I'm afraid. however, I will award you half points as
> it
> could have been.
> 
> OK I'll explain. It was a reference to a) the Diamond Head track of the
> same
> name - a much
> maligned bunch of talented guys who should have made it but didn't - and
> I
> also love the movie.
> 
> Whitesnake, I've got their/his albums, saw them a few times in the
> 70s/80s
> and have to say they
> were at their peak on the Ready and Willing Tour, in 81, I think it was.
> David Coverdale, I dislike
> intensely. If he were half as talented as he thinks he is, he might be
> able
> to justify his huge ego. But, from
> personal experience he is not a nice person. He is the only person I
> have
> ever met who has flat out refused to sign
> an autograph after a gig. He is the only person I know of who cancelled
> a
> gig at the last minute because
> "the stage isn't big enough" [for his ego].
> 
> I've finished ranting now :-)
> 
> Surfing with the Alien,
> 
> Mark L. Potts
> The God of Thunder
> 
> np: Paul Rodgers - Now
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric 
Subject: Re: gg: ELP review next day!

Thanks for that review.  I enjoyed CP's heavy sticks on that album.  

JEE

- --- BuffNET  wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> I just posted a review of ELPowell that mentioned a concert that was to
> occur in Boston the next day.  While I was looking through my clippings,
> I
> found a review of the very concert the first article referred to!  Here
> it
> is.  Author is Brett Milano and source is the Boston Globe.
> 
> 
> 
> ELP CAN'T BE EASILY DISMISSED
> 
> MANSFIELD - In the 197 0s they were Emerson, Lake & Palmer, one of the
> definitive art-rock bands. In the '80s, after eight years apart and a
> change
> of drummers, they're Emerson, Lake & Powell. But the sound has hardly
> changed: They still represent art-rock with all its glories and
> pitfalls.
> Tuesday night at Great Woods, they hit some lofty peaks and noisy
> valleys -
> grand and majestic one minute, overly grandiose the next.
> 
> Tuesday's turnout was surprisingly small - only, one-third, capacity,
> although the group's new album is in the Top 30. Despite the sparse
> audience
> and the chilly weather, the group gave longtime fans everything they
> could
> hope for. The songs stretched back to the first ELP album from 1970 and
> included some mid-'70s, classically influenced epics ("Tarkus" and
> "Pirates"), along with the radio hits "Lucky Man" and "From the
> Beginning."
> There was even a pair, of songs ("America" and "Rondo") by Emerson's
> pre-ELP
> band, the Nice. Luckily, they didn't draw heavily from the new album,
> which
> is largely a lesser rehash of their '70s work.
> 
> New drummer Cozy Powell (formerly of Rainbow and the Jeff Beck Group) is
> a
> rockier, more straight-ahead drummer than his predecessor, Carl Palmer
> (now
> with Asia). But the group still hinges on Keith Emerson's wall of
> keyboards
> and Greg Lake's aristocratic vocals. Emerson has his pitfalls - notably
> his
> love for electronic sound effects - but he remains a brilliant player
> when
> he keeps himself in check. He's also a fine, flamboyant showman: in the
> encore he jumped on his Hammond organ, knocked it to the floor and
> stabbed
> it with a dagger, all without interrupting his solo.
> 
> Emerson was responsible for both of Tuesday's highlights.  The first was
> a
> short, graceful piano solo, "Best Defense," which proved his gifts as a
> composer. The second was one of ELP's biggest hits, an adaptation of
> Aaron
> Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man." Although it may seem tasteless
> to
> turn a Copland piece into a rock tune, ELP made it work - thanks mainly
> to
> Emerson's synthesizer solo, which scaled heights of high-volume joy.
> 
> On the other hand, the show's finale - another classical adaptation
> Holst's
> "Mars, the Bringer of War" - was too heavy on gimmicks.  Instead of
> serious
> playing, the piece was built on high-tech effects: laser lights, spacey
> video and a long, tacky drum-solo. Songs like this explain why many
> critics
> write ELP off as pomp rock dinosaurs. But In Tuesday's peaks, especially
> the
> glorious "Fanfare," they could not be dismissed so easily.
> 
> 
> 
> James F. Streeter - Design Engineer
> Nuttall Gear LLC
> Delroyd Worm Gear Products
> P.O. Box 1032
> Niagara Falls, New York 14302
> Phone: (716) 731-5180 x239  Fax: (716) 731-9329
> Corporate Web Page:  www.nuttallgear.com
> Corporate e-mail:  nuttall@nuttallgear.com
> Personal e-mail: v015eyjd@buffnet.net
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 01:34:57 +0000
From: Toby Trott 
Subject: nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?

Wacky Racontuers,

     I'm wondering...having missed a few posts, how the name of the upcoming
October gathering in the Big Apple evolved. At one point, I balieve it was
refered to quaintly as the GGettogether, then somehow that became the ever-so
appropo ORGG, which then became GORGG...have we somehow reached equlibrium
with GORGG? What is the extra G for? Gargantuan? Great? Gross? Gruelling?


     I ask because now we seem to be getting "the official T-Shirt",
thanks 
to Nick in Fresno, and I am working on (I hope nobody minds the
presumption) 
"the official name tag" ... they may come in handy and would be nice little
keep-sakes. I'm also considering making a banner, if someone thinks it would
be useful. Such things kinda force the issue, if you get my gist.

     Was there a concensus or did it just...happen? Please, oh please,
tell 
me the story? I promise I'll go to sleep right after.

Toby

@home I'm tjtrott@mindspring.com, but at work I'm trott@sas.com
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
...world's a stage...play their part. I have chosen clip-on-your lapel-ador.

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:13:45 -0700
From: "Frank Lauria" 
Subject: gg: Re: GORGG or What's in a name?

From: Toby Trott 

"What is the extra G for?"

Global On-Reflection GGettogether, isn't it, V-B?

P-F

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:59:12 +0200
From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn" 
Subject: Re: nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?

Good mourning! (I borrowed that one too)

Toby is did asking:
>      I'm wondering...having missed a few posts, how the name of the upcoming
> October gathering in the Big Apple evolved. At one point, I balieve it was
> refered to quaintly as the GGettogether, then somehow that became the ever-so
> appropo ORGG, which then became GORGG...have we somehow reached equlibrium
> with GORGG? What is the extra G for? Gargantuan? Great? Gross? Gruelling?

I am the guilty one. But I don't think you bow deep enough for me. I am not gonna
tell you the story if things are like this! Out of the question!
Hrmf!
btw, that is not how it went. You are wrong as well as bad!


>     I ask because now we seem to be getting "the official T-Shirt",
> thanks 
> to Nick in Fresno, and I am working on (I hope nobody minds the
> presumption) 
> "the official name tag" ... they may come in handy and would be nice little
> keep-sakes. I'm also considering making a banner, if someone thinks it would
> be useful. Such things kinda force the issue, if you get my gist.

Well, get your gist... get your gist.... It took me quite some time before I
grasped anything at all, which - I have to state very clearly - is no fault of
yours.
"Banner" seems like the easiest one. Looooong, right? The kinda thing you hang on
a wall and  which tells everybody why it's so damn cool at that party: they have
entered the wrong room! Right?
I suppose "name tag" is sth with your name on and during the conventions that
normal people go to they wear them on their chest, right?

Any initiative is highly valuated by me for one! Presumption? Don't know that
word either, but I guess I get the feel. NO! Don't worry! We _need_ people who
just start doing things! It's the only way we're ever gonna make this thing work.
Thank you and good luck!


>      Was there a concensus or did it just...happen? Please, oh please,
> tell 
> me the story? I promise I'll go to sleep right after.

NOW we're talking bizniz, Toby! Good boy! Sit!
Here cometh: ye storye.
Sit back and loath.
I had noticed that when there was talk about several O-R ggettogethers during the
same period (say one in Soegne, Norway and one in Fresno, California - strange
examples, btw - didn't they say in that movie: "NOBODY goes to Fresno anymore!"
?), that some readers got very very very confused.
Due to several sad circumstances I wound up being closer to the centre in
organizing the international On-Reflection meeting than I wanted. I thought it
would make sense to extremely carefully design a name, so chances of mix-ups
would be somewhat reduced. So when I started to write about the party, I used an
extremely carefully designed ad hoc name that avoided the words "ggettogether"
and "Gentle Giant", while introducing "ggathering", "global" and "On-Reflection".
Ora et Labora! Eureka! Mea Culpa!

***** The 1999 Global O-Reflection GGathering! (Gorgg '99) *****

Mihi Carior Quam Aurum Est!
Now it was an ad hoc name (carefully designed!). I still lacked the last E
instead of that goddawful last G. And people got as confused as they always do.
But the name kinda stuck and spread like a fire in dry grass. Some even started
to _like_ that goddawful last G! The Satisfied Users Base of the word now exceeds
23.7 persons! No kidding!

As to Toby's historical overview in the beginning of this mail: you're damn
wrong, Toby! Gorgg was the carefully designed ad hoc name right from the start.
Although: during all the time, some _bad_ people have used different terms. They
have not respected what may appear to be one of my last wills! Snif! That nun
person was worst! ORGGY! The very thought! I think he's a sinner. He is!

EOF


I told Nick that he has the power now. Whatever he decides to put on the T-shirt
IS the name of the ugly beast.
We need to tame Nick. Fast!
And Nick needs to report back thank you!

c-ya,
v-bert

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:24:16 -0400
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:41:42 -0400
From: "him, her and the dog" 
Subject: Re: nogg: GORGG or What's in a name?

At 10:59 AM 8/9/99 +0200, v-bert wrote:
>>That nun person was worst! ORGGY! The very thought! I think he's a
sinner. He is!<<<<

V-bert,

    Why yes, yes he is a sinner, but he makes a hell of a sausage roll..

osMOOSEis
np.  YES, Lightning Stirkes from The Ladder through Liquid Music ( I dunno
know if I like this or not...)

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