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on-reflection-digest Saturday, August 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1828
gg: noGG: "theme one" - Cozy Powell
gg: Bable-Fish translater - level 1
gg: Re: Ion Pass Play and the KaCey LowDown (or Brutes on Red Ranches?)
Re: gg: Tool
gg: Wyatt
no gg: Skin & ebay
gg: Re: Tool
gg: SB
gg: Butcher block; Magma; laughter; Beach Boys; yank = jerk; Steely Dan; Ian Gillan; Fripp; KC download
Re: no gg: Skin & ebay
gg: Re: Geordie thread -- Jez Lowe
gg: RE: Bable-Fish translater - level 1
gg: Sky 3
RE: gg: Tool
Re: gg: Tool
Re: gg: Wyatt
gg: Fwd: Re: Gorggmail: Names, Venue, Life Story
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:00:27 EDT
From: PilgrimX@aol.com
Subject: gg: noGG: "theme one" - Cozy Powell
Less than a month ago there was discussion about the placement of "Theme One"
on VdGG's Pawn Hearts...
After reading that this morning, I suddenly had a mission to find other
versions I could hear on the internet. All I found was a version by Cozy
Powell on his Best Of. You can hear it in RealAudio at CDNow.com
For those of us who know little about Cozy's music. . . track 2 ("Killer") is
NOT what you think.
Patrick
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:08:55 +0100
From: Bill OReilly
Subject: gg: Bable-Fish translater - level 1
Bill T---
>What's a "cistern"? Some Leamington thingummy?
Catholic chapel in Italy..
Ant---
>Nah! surely it's the knob on a Durex machine. (Oh No not more
Transatlaticdouble meanings)
Is that some well-heeled gentleman trying to use a condom-vending
device.
er.. what's a 'thingummy'?
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:19:43 +0200
From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn"
Subject: gg: Re: Ion Pass Play and the KaCey LowDown (or Brutes on Red Ranches?)
> (D)Passion Play is and has alwaze been my fav Tull album. Then follows
> (E)Minstrel in the Gallery, and Songs from the Wood. I have yet to deal
> (J)with TaaB for various reasons. Time is a funny thing.
Minstrel in the Gallery!! Yes!
Probably the most underrated and undermentioned album they made.
b
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:20:11 +0200
From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn"
Subject: Re: gg: Tool
I like "Aenima" as well.
After having played at our local festival, Quart Festivalen in Kristiansand,
Norway, the band announced they would record a song dedicated to it, 'cause they
had had such a fun time and really dug the festival. Nobody believed them.
But they did! It's on Aenima. The title Aenima itself is also a reference to the
nordic character AE, they told. (original AE form withdrawn for compatibility
reasons)
v-b
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:17:30 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: gg: Wyatt
Hi all,
I have read a really interesting interview with Robert Wyatt
about some of the musicians he's worked with if anyone cares to read it.
It's from What's Rattlin archives at:
www.sonnet.co.uk/musart/watrat/wr81.htm
Ant
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:42:30 -0400
From: "Jerry McCarthy"
Subject: no gg: Skin & ebay
Rik Beck wrote:
> Anyway, there's a track on there by Spock's Beard
> called 'Skin' which I am disappointed with...Is anyone
> here familiar with this track and, if so, how representative of the band
> would they say this particular track is?
Sad to say, these days it's quite representative. They've been heading
in the wrong direction since Beware of Darkness IMO.
Steely Scott wrote:
>> Guess again. There was one on ebay recently that went for $301
>> and this was one that had the new cover applied over it.
>
> Yes but that could have been the E-Bay phenomenon, where people
> gather to pay outrageous prices for things they can't find as
> easily anywhere else.
Don't knock "the E-Bay phenomenon" completely -- it definitely has its
moments.
In the past two months, I've managed to find 3 CDs that have been out of
print now for a combined 29 years, and I won all 3 auctions for a
*combined* price of $26.97US. I don't know about you, but finding three
long-lost O-O-P gems that I've been avidly seeking for years, at an
average price of only $9US, is OK in my book.
Yes, you DO see some outlandish stuff on ebay and you have to know the
market for what you're looking for or you can get in pretty deep. But if
you keep your head screwed on straight and show some patience and
self-control, ebay *can* be a very effective tool, I guarantee it.
For the 180-degree flip side of how ebay can also be off-the-wall, check
out this auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=147055454.
Somebody forwarded that URL around my office yesterday and I couldn't
believe my eyes!
- --Jerry (NP: Bob Mould - The Last Dog & Pony Show)
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:55:43 PDT
From: "Dan Weese"
Subject: gg: Re: Tool
>Tool's Aenima is an amazing album, particularly the bass and drums.
My favourite bits of Tool are the odd little preludes. I swear these
were inspired by the GG preludes: the spinning coin, etc. There are a lot
of KC influences throughout. As opposed to the majority of Heavy Metal,
Tool are genuine craftsmen. I'll have to agree the ambience of Tool is dark
and disturbing, but it's genuine, not some braindead Black Sabbath
wannabe.
np: John McLaughlin, Birds of Fire
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:20:26 -0500
From: "Lottich, Steve"
Subject: gg: SB
Rik:
> ...Anyway, there's a track on there by
> Spock's Beard
> called 'Skin' which I am disappointed with. SB is currently
> about number
> 7 on my ever-growing list of bands' CDs to buy, and if this track is
> representative, I don't think I'll bother. Pop with
> keyboards. Is anyone
> here familiar with this track and, if so, how representative
> of the band
> would they say this particular track is? (it's from 1999, and
> could be a
> forthcoming release, I don't know)
Skin is from the Beard's latest, Day for Night, already released. Their
earlier stuff is the most prog - The Light (1995) and Beware of Darkness
(1996) are best (though I like all their CDs very much).
Websites with samples:
http://www.dreamt.org/spocksbeard/mp3.htm
http://www.altura.com/jordanz/spocks_beard/sb/samples.html
http://www.cloudfarm.com/sbdisc.html
Also, Studio M has 2 complete concerts available. Go to
http://www.studiomlive.com/main.html and click on Archives.
Steve "Weird with a Beard" Lottich
np: SB - BoD
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:31:32 -0700
From: "Scott Steele"
Subject: gg: Butcher block; Magma; laughter; Beach Boys; yank = jerk; Steely Dan; Ian Gillan; Fripp; KC download
>There's a framed first-state copy on the wall at Amoeba in San Francisco with an asking price of $10,000;
good lord. Do you think it will sell at that price? I can't feature that kind of collecting - once you've spent king-sized money on one thing, you have no more money to get anything else.
>Once you've done downloading Crimson you may want to change pace and cool down with some soothing, mellow music by Magma.
Thank you for making me laugh!! Then let's dig some Univers Zero and some Cecil Taylor.
>http://www.hob.com/live/concerts/990601magma/
Thank you sir - off I go
>> Labia? Is she one of the LaBeque sisters?
>No, The Labia is a Genesis
thanks again! You guys are in rare form this morning!
>Help me, Rhonda, yeah, get her outta my walker...
Ulgh. I hate Mike Love. And I miss Carl Wilson. Come to think of it, I guess I miss Brian too.
>> Labia? Is she one of the LaBeque sisters?
>Yes, she's the lippy one.
In the style of Slotster: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
>What's a "cistern"? Some Leamington thingummy?
One of the Labeque cisterns.
>Feminine form of "brethren."
>BTW, according to my computer thesaurus, a synonym for yank is jerk. Where does that leave our transatlantic cousins :-)
Hey, it's mine and I'll wash it as fast as I want to.
>>>Q: Does Steely Dan count as prog?
>>Nope. No mellotrons. ;) But it counts as music with brains.
>I dunno Scott, "Countdown To Ecstasy" has quite a few proggy moments.
More like jazz.
>I love the tune "Boston Rag".
Me too Jools.
>Voivod's remake of KC's "21st Century Schizoid Man"(a must hear!).
Kicks butt!!
>>How about Ian Gillan on I Lost My Head?
>How about Ian Gillan on "Why Not?"
Yeah!
>and "Think Of Me With Kindness"?
Well, I'd like to hear it. I think it would be totally different though.
>Good call on the "I Lost My Head" though. :)
How can we get hold of the old geezer to suggest this to him?
>>Then you missed his(Fripp) solo on Red House. Twisted twisted twisted!
>Yes indeed...He blew all the spandex nancy-boys away! :)
Vvvvt
>http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/play.pls?addr=216.32.166.89:20088&file=filename.pls
>you can see the playlist for the channel updated in realtime at:
http://yursttunes.etonnant.com/
What wonderful sites. Thanks sir.
>>KING CRIMSON LIVE IN MEXICO CITY DOWNLOAD!!
>This has not worked for me yet. I will continue to try to download the concert.
This finally worked when I downloaded the file into a subdirectory that had no long file names. (I have Win95.)
>I always thought they should do an album covering all those anthony Braxton compositions with mathematical formulae as titles, and call it "Pi in the Sky".
Beautiful idea (more laughter)
>n.p. Seahawks/49ers. Preseason football is better than no football at all...
24-23, the Hawks hung in there pretty good I guess. I missed the game though.
>Subject: gg: And Tie The Sis of Prawns (or Mt. Progloditus?)
>(DJ)Lest we forget El Duce'...R.I.P. Disgusting and Nasty little man...
>Doug
>P.S. ...und Sparx ist sehr painless...
I have no idea what that man just said.
>Who would be the Tony Williams' Lifetime today?
Coryell, Coster, Smith?
>I for one would propose that Music made entirely with computers and samplers is the "New Form" of Rock-n-Roll since it disregards all "Beat Combo" methods i.e. of creating music.
Sigh. That's probably right. Bands like GG who play so incredibly well, and so many different instruments among five members, are probably incredibly passe at this point. - S.
np: Saga, Behaviour
scottst@ohsu.edu
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:39:42 EDT
From: SHudson653@aol.com
Subject: Re: no gg: Skin & ebay
Jerry Wrote
Sad to say, these days it's quite representative. They've been heading
in the wrong direction since Beware of Darkness IMO.
Hudman here... Couldn't agree more.... BofD is their best to date....
By the way during my recent 2 week vacation i played KITES from SD+TBS
and not one of my 46 year old friends remember this song!! However one of the
wives (44 years old) said is that the Moddy Blues?? Interesting eh !
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:58:12 +0100
From: "Paul Moore"
Subject: gg: Re: Geordie thread -- Jez Lowe
Ginny asks what is a gamy leg?
Spelt GAME, it's an 18th century dialect word of uncertain origin meaning a
lame, injured leg, often used by war veterans when they apologetically
excuse themselves from athletic pursuits. 'I'd love to play for the Old
Puddletonians Cricket Eleven, but I can't because I'm having trouble with
my gamy leg.' It's a phrase that suggests long-term pain and disability
faced with a stiff upper lip and no complaining.
I liked the lyrics, by the way.
Cheers,
Paul - The Rockin' Revd
The Revd Dr Paul Moore
St Andrew's Church, Kildwick, N. Yorks, UK.
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:44:12 -0700
From: William Tindall
Subject: gg: RE: Bable-Fish translater - level 1
Bill O'Reilly wonders:
<< er.. what's a 'thingummy'?>>
It's the British-manufactured version of the classic 'thingamajig', an American inwention. Also known in various places as a 'thingamabob', 'doohickey', 'whatchamacallit', 'doojamaflappy', and 'whozeewhatsit'.
The nice thing about them is that they fulfill any number of useful functions; for instance, did you know that a thingummy can do stuff? I was pleased to learn that they, indeed, can.
Bill "Thing of Majig" T
P.S. I have no info in re: Bob's involvement
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:14:09 +0200
From: "Jerry Bartlett"
Subject: gg: Sky 3
dg wrote:
>I'm a Sky junkie and I don't care who knows it.
This struck a chord with me. More people should say this!
Now, I can't say I'm a particular fan, but I'm very sensitive, at the
moment, to this
thing about what's OK and not OK to like.
Is that a basis for criticism? It seems to be in the UK, and I hate it.
Have I said this before, or was that on the Vengaboys mailing list?
;-)
/Jerry Formerly in Sweden
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:06:21 -0400
From: "Nick"
Subject: RE: gg: Tool
There is alleged to be a new Tool release coming this year. They were
victims of their label's politics/demise/rebirth/re-demise/and re-rebirth.
The old label Zoo is now known [to make a very long and convoluted story
short] as Volcano. Label mate Matthew Sweet's new release is scheduled
firmly and a new Tool is supposed to appear in the fourth quarter.
In the meantime, may I recommend the excellent new releases from Guided By
Voices, The Verve Pipe, Doyle Bramhall and the already mentioned Richard
Thompson. And keep your eyes open for the spate of excellent new Cuneiform
releases including a new [reformed] Univers Zero and a great live release
from Von Zamla recorded in 1983. Just got advances on these and they are
outstanding.
Cheers,
- -------Nick [the generally lurking South Florida one]
NP: Guided By Voices - Do The Collapse TVT CD 1980-2 produced by Ric Ocasek,
who has finally gotten these guys to make the record of their career!
WhytePunk opined:
> I think all of Tool is worth listening to!!! "Undertow" had their "hits"
> (Sober and Prison Sex)
> but the whole cd is quite moving and has a cool spoken word break by
> singer/actor Henry Rollins. The ep "Opiate" is very nasty and violent and
> contains one of my favorite Tool songs called "Hush"....I never
> did check to
> see if they'd released anything after Ænima...Hmmm, now I'll have
> too!
> Neil
Oh yeah -- I should add that Tool was one of the most riveting bands I've
ever seen live.
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:15:23 EDT
From: WhytePunk@aol.com
Subject: Re: gg: Tool
In a message dated 08/20/1999 11:12:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
npolak@rahis.com writes:
<< In the meantime, may I recommend the excellent new releases from Guided By
Voices, The Verve Pipe, Doyle Bramhall and the already mentioned Richard
Thompson. And keep your eyes open for the spate of excellent new Cuneiform
releases including a new [reformed] Univers Zero and a great live release
from Von Zamla recorded in 1983. Just got advances on these and they are
outstanding.
Cheers,
-------Nick [the generally lurking South Florida one] >>
Thanx for the recomendations Nick! Neil
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:31:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric
Subject: Re: gg: Wyatt
I read the interview. Thanks. Robert is a rather upbeat fellow (That was
a drummer pun, by he way).
JEE
- --- Ant wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have read a really interesting interview with Robert Wyatt
> about some of the musicians he's worked with if anyone cares to read it.
> It's from What's Rattlin archives at:
>
> www.sonnet.co.uk/musart/watrat/wr81.htm
>
> Ant
>
>
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: mammienun@webtv.net
Subject: gg: Fwd: Re: Gorggmail: Names, Venue, Life Story
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:03:13 -0400 (EDT)
To: BOReilly@redcross.org.uk (Bill OReilly)
Subject: Re: Gorggmail: Names, Venue, Life Story
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Name: A few of you already know...to the rest it's still Ez
Age: 38
How do you take it: Thrice daily.
Participation: Lurker Buster Time on
list: Much longer than Drew thought....Is that nun still here?
Fav debate: The Emerson Parrot posts Fav grudge match:
Hilton vs. anyone Members met: Not Phil, osMoosIs
Fav music: Garth Brooks...what do you think? Least fav music: I never
got off on the Beatles or the Stones
Girlfriend: Debbie (for 15 yrs.) Kid:
Melissa (Pokey) Instruments:
Sax and Keyz Gear: Conn naked lady alto
sax, Ensoniq SD-1, lots of mediocre PA stuff
Collection: Much more than many...less than most...but all in all I
think I do alright. Language: Mammiespeak
Hotel: The Glass House Food:
Mashed potatoes, raw chitlins. Any downers?
Drink: Then...way too much. Now...not nearly enough.
Fav GG: Octopus-Side 2 Met 'em?:
Nope Seen 'em: Almost
in Utica, Albany, and Syracuse NY, and Dallas TX dammit (not you dick).
Only on video...does that count? TftO: For me it's still
undiscovered for the most part. I have it, but I've only sat down and
really listened to it a couple of times.
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