on-reflection-digest Monday, September 13 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1865
Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
Re: gg: "intelli-pop", and Sluggo!
gg: Ambients
Re: gg: stalking Annie Halsam
gg: Nothing about Mike Keneally in this post
gg: Lit List
gg: noGG: Richard Thompson
Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
gg: CJAM show
no gg: What's good for the goose is good for the Gosling
gg: Re: Ambients
non-gg: books
Re: gg: books I'm reading
Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS
Re: gg: Read any good books lately?
Re: gg: Shank's Mare
Re: gg: Re: Football and GG
Re: gg: favoRitE: BOOKS (or Litlist)
Re: gg: Chessmen
Re: gg: Nothing about Mike Keneally in this post
Re: gg: favoRitE: BOOKS (or Litlist)
Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS
Re: gg: Kronos Quartet
no gg: odds & ends
gg: Opening for R-sance; Bob; Floyd/Oz; Fusesisters; paisley horsie; Knots; delaHoya
gg: Zawinul
gg: Re: ~~~~~{(@)}~~~~~
gg: book em Danno?
gg: Re: mammiepolls
gg: Re: on-reflection-digest V1 #1864
gg: various things
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:05:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric
Subject: Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
An instrument section on the Gentle Giant web site is a good idea,
although for those of us that don't know the lingo ... it would be nice to
have photos of the instruments. I suppose that would be asking too much.
JohnEric
- --- "Frank B. Carvalho" wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Here's a musicians question about our favourite band:
> I browsed Dan Barretts excellent web site looking for information about
> Kerrys keyboard setup, but unfortunately I didn't find any, so maybe
> some
> of you can give me an answer. I would like to know which keyboards he
> used
> and in which periods of time he used which models. Specifically:
>
> 1. Which type of Hammond(s) did Kerry play?
> 2. Which mellotrons did he use when. (I know he recorded with the rare
> M300
> early on, but it seems he toured later with an M400)
> 3. What brand of effect units did he use. (MXR phaser? Small Stone?)
> 4. Which model clav?
> 5. Which stringers did he use in the later years?
> 6. Which electric pianos (Wurlitzer I know, but did he ever use a
> Rhodes?)
>
> I have details on all these sort of things for Tony Banks from 1969 till
> now,
> but I always found Kerrys keyboard sound a model of simplicity and
> taste.
> Any details you may have would be interesting. I tried to scrutinize the
>
> photos on the web site, but there are no pictures of Kerrys keyboards.
> Maybe
> an instrument section would be a nice addition to the web site? Worth a
> thought.
>
> Cheers
>
> Frank Carvalho
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric
Subject: Re: gg: "intelli-pop", and Sluggo!
the most recent popular music I listened to was during the
grunge/alternative era. A lot of that music was ferociously original.
After that, I lost interest and stuck to bands I am familiar with. I have
been dabbling with ambient forms of music.
JohnEric
- --- James Warren wrote:
>
> Chuck wrote: "What I'd like to know...are what you listers are
> listening to in the way of pop?"
> --and my related question is, "What do any of you know or think about a
> band called the Merrymakers?" I'm unfamiliar with 'em, but have been
> told to check them out, for my daily (or so) pop fix :-)
>
> In regards to Mike Keneally, I own HAT, BOIL THAT DUST SPECK, and
> SLUGGO!. If you want more melody and "traditional" songs with
> development, try SLUGGO! before pidgeon-holing (sp?) all of Keneally's
> output. For extreme examples of the opposite (more so than other
> Keneally stuff, imho), Scott McGill's THE HAND FARM (I enjoy this for
> McGill's musicianship, and homage to Alan Holdsworth) delivers
> reckless, "stop-and-go" abandon throughout.
>
> JJW
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:46:15 -0400
From: "Yurchison, Gerry"
Subject: gg: Ambients
John,
Which ambients ?
I recently procured "The Essential Fripp & Eno", which I found
interesting and plan to use
as background music while working out at the gym.
- Gerryy
Subject: Re: gg: stalking Annie Halsam
>Miles rules fusion world
While Joe Zawinul is on vacation, that is... lol
- -korse, they did Bitches Brew and In a Silent Way together.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:18:41 EDT
From: Biffyshrew@aol.com
Subject: gg: Nothing about Mike Keneally in this post
dashthecat@webtv.net wrote:
>my first rock/pop purchase in a 45 was when I was 13 years old,
>'Green Tambourine'
The Lemon Pipers RULE, I tell you, they RULE!!!
***
Frank Lauria wrote:
>Bob Angilly: "There's a local Boston band who used to do Stairway to Heaven
>with the lyrics from Gilligan's Isle."
>
>I've heard that on the radio down here (years ago). Wasn't that Dread
>Zeppelin?
The "Stairway To Gilligan" record (which was pulled after legal action from
the Zeppelin camp) was by Little Roger & the Goosebumps. Note that it wasn't
just the lyrics, but the melody of "Gilligan" sung over the instrumental
arrangement of "Stairway." This spawned a host of Doctor Demento-sponsored
imitators who missed the point by simply singing the *words* of a TV theme to
the tune of a famous rock song, e.g., Barnes & Barnes' "A Day In The Life Of
Green Acres."
***
Jerry McCarthy wrote:
>But I ain't finished with that Biffy guy yet!
...and then quoted Annie Haslam:
>No, I wasn't
>really happy with them. They're all good songs, but they just weren't me.
So those albums were made up of "all good songs," even though Annie wasn't
happy with the change of direction. If anything, this *supports* my previous
remark that, unlike GG with GFAD, when Renaissance turned away from their
proggy roots, at least they made (reasonably) good pop music. Not really
great pop, mind you, like some of Mike Keneally's stuff which mysteriously
seems to elu--oh wait, I wasn't supposed to mention him. Sorry, forget I
said that.
>They also used Peter Gosling on 80s recordings but I'm not sure whether
>he ever toured with them. Probably did.
If I remember right, he was the keyboardist the last time I saw Renaissance,
circa 1982.
>Annie laughs a lot, always has. She's always good for several bouts of
>uncontrolled laughter during any show.
I made her giggle onstage once. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
>Although many of the openers for them that I saw did either go on to, or
>already had, pretty respectable careers, there are also a few who went
>into the Where-Are-They-Now? file:
The first time I saw Renaissance, in a medium-sized hall (1977), they *were*
the opening act--for GG. The second time (1979), in an outdoor amphitheater,
their support act was Tim Weisberg, whose career was on the way down. The
last time, in a club (circa 1982), I can't recall who opened, but I'm sure it
wasn't anyone we've heard from since.
***
David J. Loftus wrote:
>Is the quartet auditioning new babes for the cello position?
Would that be Position #31? (I hear it's terrific fun.)
Anyway, fear not: Kronos does indeed have a new cello babe. A brunette this
time.
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:19:28 EDT
From: Biffyshrew@aol.com
Subject: gg: Lit List
It's too difficult to come up with ten because most of my books are currently
hidden away in boxes. Without having all my favorites out on display, I'm
sure to forget many that belong on this list more than some I'll include.
I'm also not sure if books that were not *conceived* as books should count:
if they do I'd certainly add my collected volumes of Shakespeare and Blake.
1. James Joyce: Ulysses--Because it's the finest thing in the English
language. Period. Although I've read it from beginning to end numerous
times, more often I just pick it up to read a single chapter, any one of
which is satisfying on its own.
2. Anthony Burgess: A Clockwork Orange--Burgess himself always seemed
embarrassed by this book, and the movie made from it, I think because he saw
people getting a prurient thrill from the "ultra-violence." The most
immediate part of the book's appeal to me is the aspect that I think Burgess
would have been most proud of had he been proud of the book at all: the
Nadsat lingo, the insidious tool with which Burgess makes the horrible Alex
such a quasi-sympathetic character. To crack Alex's coded speech is to
become a co-conspirator with him. BTW, Kubrick's film treatment, which I
never saw until around 1985 or '86, is my all-time favorite movie, bar none.
And I hate violent movies.
3. Francois Rabelais: Gargantua & Pantagruel--Unlike _Knots_, I did not read
this strictly for the GG connection, but because it was a required text at
school. (Oddly enough, I tend to associate this book not with the GG albums
that actually contain Rabelais references, but with _The Power & The Glory_,
which was the new GG album at the time I first read this.) I still have the
tattered Penguin paperback of the J.M. Cohen translation from my college
days, plus a version translated by Barton Raffel that came out in 1990.
4. Tom Phillips: A Humument--A "treated" novel by the artist associated with
King Crimson and Brian Eno. "This night wounds time."
5. Gene Wolfe: The Book Of The New Sun (tetralogy)--Apart from _Lord Of The
Rings_ (which I *was* 12 when I first read) and Silverberg's _Lord
Valentine's Castle_, the only fantasy I have any use for. Unlike those two,
this one is not suitable for the kiddies.
6. Dylan Thomas: Under Milk Wood--Because it's bizarre and funny.
7. John Brunner: Stand On Zanzibar--Someday I need to get around to reading
Dos Passos' _USA_, which I understand was the inspiration for the unusual
structure of this book.
8. Something by Flann O'Brien--I'd need to re-read the books to decide which.
That's enough.
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:23:24 EDT
From: Biffyshrew@aol.com
Subject: gg: noGG: Richard Thompson
<< You?Me?Us? is not getting the accolades it deserves... >>
...or the support from its creator, who didn't play a single song from it
when I saw him two or three months ago. (Despite the small, shrew-like voice
piping up from the audience, requesting "Business On You.")
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:14:52 +0200
From: Sven Eriksen
Subject: Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
> "Frank B. Carvalho" wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Here's a musicians question about our favourite band:
> I browsed Dan Barretts excellent web site looking for information about
> Kerrys keyboard setup, but unfortunately I didn't find any, so maybe some
> of you can give me an answer. I would like to know which keyboards he used
> and in which periods of time he used which models. Specifically:
Should'nt answer this without the records/videos/Keyboard Magazine
interview at hand, but I'll give it a try. Corrections will probably
follow later:
>
> 1. Which type of Hammond(s) did Kerry play?
Looks like a B3 on picts/videos. Played without a Leslie in the early years.
> 2. Which mellotrons did he use when. (I know he recorded with the rare M300 early on, but it seems he toured later with an M400)
Definitely an M300 on AtT and 3F. Debut album Mellotron sounds extremely
distorted so it's not easy to hear. I don't think the M300 had been
launched at this time, so it is probably an MKII. I've seen pictures of
Kerry with an M400 (cover of IAGH), buth whether that one is used on
"Octopus" is hard to tell. No Mellotron on records later than Octopus as
far as I can hear. I believe he ditched it shortly afterwards. (He said
that it was too much job to carry a Mellotron around just to support the
Minimoog). The Mellotron is gone on the 75 video, but / believe it can
be heard on the Glass House Tour (vibes) - or was that a '73 show?
> 3. What brand of effect units did he use. (MXR phaser? Small Stone?)
No idea
> 4. Which model clav?
It's a wooden one AFAIR on the '75 video, which probably means it is
older than the D6, when they changed it to black (still IIRC).
> 5. Which stringers did he use in the later years?
I don't think he ever used one, did he? Not on a permanent basis at least.
> 6. Which electric pianos (Wurlitzer I know, but did he ever use a Rhodes?)
Isn't that a Rhodes on " Aspirations"? I seem to remember from the
Keyboard Magazine interview that Kerry rented a Rhodes for some things
on TPATG. He also used a Hohner ElectraPiano ( I believe it was) before
the Wurlitzer. I can check this with the Keyboard interviev.
Oh, I guess I posted more questions than answers.
Regards Sven
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:33:36 EDT
From: "Reginald Dunlop"
Subject: gg: CJAM show
Hello Giants!
Nicholas Haus wrote:
>Julian's Show:
>What a nice mix of energetic tunes. Thanks for a
>great show, Reg! Got me so wired I had to do some
>house-cleaning, for crying out loud! Vicki will
>faint.
I'm glad you called in at the radio station when I was playing the
"Pig/Orange Skin Food" suite by the Soft Machine from "Vol. II". I makes me
all fuzzy when I'm playing Soft Machine and someone is actually listening. I
hope you liked the follow-up track "But Where For Caravan Would I?" by
CARAVAN. Did you dig the Tasavalan Presidenti? Also, how many hours did you
listen to my show? Was there anyone else listening? Yehuda? Simon B.? Earl
R.? My 20 minute 8 o'clock feature this week was TIMOTHY PURE. Last week's
was VOIVOD(ha! ha! ha!) :)
Later,
REGINALD DUNLOP
np: WIRE - "154"
on deck: ANDREW POPPY - "The Beating Of Wings"
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:45:51 -0400
From: "Jerry McCarthy"
Subject: no gg: What's good for the goose is good for the Gosling
I wrote:
> I'm not sure who you may have seen on keyboards. For much of the 80s,
> they toured with Raphael Rudd ("The Awakening") on piano/synths (but I
> didn't think he was Russian). They also used Peter Gosling on 80s
> recordings but I'm not sure whether he ever toured with them. Probably
> did.
I haven't read all my weekend mail so this may have already been
discussed, but...
Just to set the record straight, according to the Renaissance Concert
Listing (http://www.enteract.com/~nlights/lib/reviews/concert.htm), not
only did Peter Gosling tour with Renaissance in the 80s following John
Tout's departure, he was their keyboardist for *most* of their shows,
beginning in October 1981 and playing shows up through November 1985.
Raphael Rudd's tenure was only 1986-87. Not having seen them between
1980-1986, I was unaware of this.
- --Jerry
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric
Subject: gg: Re: Ambients
Pick up the new release called "Ambient Expanse". It features several of
my faforite ambient artists and is produced by my all-time, over-all,
favorite Steve Roach.
JohnEric
- --- "Yurchison, Gerry" wrote:
> John,
>
> Which ambients ?
> I recently procured "The Essential Fripp & Eno", which I found
> interesting and plan to use
> as background music while working out at the gym.
>
> - Gerryy
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:25:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: non-gg: books
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Scott Steele wrote:
> >What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right
> >now but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag,
> >whatever?
>
> A Confederacy of Dunces. I forget the author's name though. It's
> hilarious.
John Kennedy Toole.
I recorded that book once, for the Massachusetts Association for the
Blind. Lotta fun to read aloud. "WOAH! Dem's da PO-lice."
What's not so hilarious is the publishing history. Toole couldn't get
anyone to publish the book and committed suicide. His mother kept
knocking on doors and eventually showed the manuscript to Walker Percy,
who loved it, found a publisher, and wrote a preface for it. Then I
think it won the Pulitzer Prize.
It ain't easy being an artist in a "free market." Or anywhere else, for
that matter.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: books I'm reading
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 dashthecat@webtv.net wrote:
> The book on my coffee table is "The Eden Passion" third in a series of 8
> historical novels... not a bodice ripper, though that could be implied
> by the name.
S'matter, wench. You got sumthin' against ripping bodices?
Have to admit, I prefer ripping yarns.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:32:16 PDT
From: "Henrik Johansson"
Subject: Re: gg: Gentle Giant keyboards question
>>"Frank B. Carvalho" wrote:
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>Here's a musicians question about our favourite band:
>>I browsed Dan Barretts excellent web site looking for information about
>>Kerrys keyboard setup, but unfortunately I didn't find any, so maybe some
>>of you can give me an answer. I would like to know which keyboards he used
>>and in which periods of time he used which models. Specifically:
>>
>>1. Which type of Hammond(s) did Kerry play?
>Looks like a B3 on picts/videos. Played without a Leslie in the early
>years.
It's probably a C-3, since B-3 was a piece of furniture basically and the
C-3 was more portable. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>4. Which model clav?
>It's a wooden one AFAIR on the '75 video, which probably means it is
>older than the D6, when they changed it to black (still IIRC).
It's a D-6 alright! The earlier models (at least the C) were red where the
D6 is "wood-coloured".
>>6. Which electric pianos (Wurlitzer I know, but did he ever use a Rhodes?)
I guess he kind of decided to stick to the wurlitzer, since that's the one
I'm hearing on all recordings.
HJ
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:38:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, drj_saro wrote:
> on the other hand, probably will go back and re-read most of the
> stories in a wonderful collection of Alfred Bester short-stories.
> (and then i'll dig out his novels "the stars my destination" and "the
> demolished man"). (what a joy of language this guy had!!!!)
"The Demolished Man" is an awesome book. Hasn't aged a bit in the 40-odd
years since it was written. (I have to admit I haven't read "Stars" or
Bester's short stories -- too busy reading and collecting Harlan
Ellison. I'll get to them one of these days.)
> the last "literate" reading i did was a re-read of Flann O'Brian's "At
> Swim Two Birds" (imagine if James Joyce was part of Monty Python!).
Have you read Myles na Gopaleen's other stuff?
> and how many of us have read "Knots" by RDLaing?
> (and who stole _my_ copy?)
ME, ME!
I mean, I have read and OWN a copy, not that I stole yours! Veterans of
this list may remember that I composed a couple Knots-like lyrics of my
own and posted them to the list a few years ago. (Now if I could only
get Kerry to put them to music, I'd have something.)
> i'd like to start a related thread - top ten fave books, any genre,
> fact or fiction, but not _just_ a list, but at least a short blurb on
> _why_.
Ooo. That's going to take some WORK. But just as a teaser -- and I'm
not saying I'm going to do it, mind -- my list might well include Mikhail
Bulgakov's _The Master and Margarita_, John Fowles's _The French
Lieutenant's Woman_, Timothy Findley's _Not Wanted On the Voyage_, the
Collected poems and plays of T.S. Eliot, _The Films of Akira Kurosawa_ by
Donald Richie, and Ray Bradbury's _Something Wicked This Way Comes_.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: Read any good books lately?
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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Diana Green wrote:
> Last book I read was just a couple weeks ago: WICKED by Geoffrey
> Maguire. It's the "biography" of the Wicked Witch of the West from Oz.
> Remarkable study of compassion and the nature of forgiveness, nicely
> woven into both the Oz movie and the Ox books. Go for it!
I read that one earlier this year too, and I also recommend it. Maguire
creates a truly unique fictional character in the witch, and the entire
book is an amazing feat of imagination. The ending seemed a bit of an
inconclusive letdown, but the author had to work within the constraints
of an already-existing plot, and what he managed to do with it is still
pretty impressive. There are some lovely illustrations too.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:55:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: Shank's Mare
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 Dokwebb@aol.com wrote:
> >(oh, BTW, you Brits -- what's the story behind the phrase "Shanks's
> >Pony", as in "When you ride Shanks's pony, you don't have to pay"?)
>
> Well... I ain't no Brit (no offense intended!) but what Richard is
> referring to here is walking of course... Shank's pony or Shank's mare
> is your own two flanks.. ur, um... so to speak.... and that is free as
> compared to public or private transportation....
The phrase "shank's mare" was still in use in New England around the turn
of the century. I ran across it while researching a history of a Jesuit
school in Boston.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: Re: Football and GG
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 MHB1212GG@aol.com wrote:
> WARNING-------WARNING------GG CONTENT-----WARNING-------WARNING
>
> As some of you may recall, I had gotten a hold of some Russian released 2
> on 1 CD's, MP and GfaD.
> I went back to the CD shop and he had some new ones, but only 1 of each,
> of which he told me he'd be getting more. Both Russian released, first PtF.
> Now, the intriguing one, a 2 on 1, TF and O (sorry about abbr.). Both
> recordings on this CD are NOT the Columbia versions, TF, much crisper,
> cleaner (I can't believe the difference). Octopus, clean, crisp, and
> has the missing piano piece, the Columbia lacks. Incredible, didn't
> know what I was missing.
> BTW, if he does, in fact, get more........I'll let ya'll know
So, what indicates that they're Russian? Do they have liner notes in
cyrillic?
David Loftus
(who has four Beatles albums -- LPs -- with Russian liner notes and
labels)
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:01:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: favoRitE: BOOKS (or Litlist)
On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Bob Angilly wrote:
> Not a lot of obvious comparisons between Foundation Trilogy and Star Trek
> (can't think of much besides the fact that there are some spaceships and
> military types scattered about), It's a long involved story with many
> characters and things happening in a lot of places and cultures, not
> very Trek like. This doesn't mean that Gene Roddenberry didn't find a
> nice idea or two to steal but a more obvious source would probably be
> the film "Forbidden Planet" which (rather regretably) plays just like
> an episode of Star Trek.
And "Forbidden Planet" is a rehash of Shakespeare's "The Tempest" with a
little Freud mixed in.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:05:57 PDT
From: "Dan Weese"
Subject: Re: gg: Chessmen
> I love chess, though I am way out of practice. One of my fave books is
>Richard Reti's "Modern Ideas In Chess".
Any serious chess player should not be without Modern Chess Openings by
Walter Korn and Modern Chess Opening Theory by Suetin, The Middle Game (1 &
2) by Euwe & Kramer and Catalog of Chess Mistakes by A.Soltis
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: Nothing about Mike Keneally in this post
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 Biffyshrew@aol.com wrote:
> >Annie laughs a lot, always has. She's always good for several bouts of
> >uncontrolled laughter during any show.
>
> I made her giggle onstage once. And that's all I'm going to say about
> that.
Hmm. I made a prostitute giggle on WBCN-FM Boston once, but I didn't get
her name. Wish I'd tape recorded that incident.
> David J. Loftus wrote:
>
> >Is the quartet auditioning new babes for the cello position?
>
> Would that be Position #31? (I hear it's terrific fun.)
No, according to the Cella Sutra, it's the "greeting a eucalyptus tree"
position, number 547.
> Anyway, fear not: Kronos does indeed have a new cello babe. A
> brunette this time.
Jeanrenaud wasn't married to someone else in the quartet? Any news on
her future plans? Maybe she can link up with Janey Bob and the Wilson
sisters.
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:22:38 -0700
From: Bob Angilly
Subject: Re: gg: favoRitE: BOOKS (or Litlist)
But it does have all the core Star Trek elements, the interplay between the
three senior officers. The planetary population of two a mad old scientist with
a dark secret, and a blond in a short skirt ("What's a bathing suit?"). The
ship that seems to break down so often you wonder how it made it out of the
solar system
"David J. Loftus" wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Bob Angilly wrote:
>
> > Not a lot of obvious comparisons between Foundation Trilogy and Star Trek
> > (can't think of much besides the fact that there are some spaceships and
> > military types scattered about), It's a long involved story with many
> > characters and things happening in a lot of places and cultures, not
> > very Trek like. This doesn't mean that Gene Roddenberry didn't find a
> > nice idea or two to steal but a more obvious source would probably be
> > the film "Forbidden Planet" which (rather regretably) plays just like
> > an episode of Star Trek.
>
> And "Forbidden Planet" is a rehash of Shakespeare's "The Tempest" with a
> little Freud mixed in.
>
> David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:17:16 PDT
From: "Dan Weese"
Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS
>#1. Ayn Rand "Atlas Shrugged"
>Her philosophy of "egoism" changed my life forever.
I sincerely dislike the whole Objectivist ideology. It is a gospel of
selfishness. Rand despises kindness and charity. "Look on my works, ye
mighty, and despair"
>
>#2,3,4. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings"
The name of my first child is written in the flyleaf of my hardbound copy of
The Hobbit, the name of my second is written in my red leather copy of LOTR.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:19:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus"
Subject: Re: gg: Kronos Quartet
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ant wrote:
> On a Hendrix note (Weee-aaahhh!) Has anyone heard the new Nigel Kenedy
> album 'Hendrix'? He was performing this live on BBC Radio 3 the other
> night and I have a recording of it. To be honest there are only a few
> recognisable Hendrix themes in there except for one number which is a
> medley of songs. It's the 2nd rock album that I know of that he's done
> and the original(?) ideas here seem to be remeniscent of the stuff on
> the Kafka album.
>
> For anyone who doesn't know Nigel Kenedy, he is a virtuoso Brithish
> violinist mainly known for his classical work and also for his punk style
> haircut and flamboyant dress.
On this year's tour, he was billed simply as "Kennedy."
David Loftus
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:56:17 -0400
From: "Jerry McCarthy"
Subject: no gg: odds & ends
Steely Scott wrote:
>> Now you're talking! I actually prefer the live 2LP Around The World
>> With... to their abbreviated Forum set, but in either flavor
>> Three Dog Night were a *kicking* live band.
>
> The organ player was el-supremo. Chest Fever was very good on that record.
Jimmy Greenspoon.
Nick Haus wrote:
> I'm still stalking Annie Haslam!...'cept weekdays
Hey, I saw her first!
Dave Sr. wrote:
> too bad..too bad...Alan Parsons is here this week,I wont be there,its one
> of those stand-up things,I promised myself I would never pay money to a
> stand up concert again,unless it was GG or Flim & the BB's...
What about The Musical Box doing The Lamb, Dave -- stand for that one?
Let's hope we get to find out one day. :-)
BTW, the two times I saw TMB in the States, I had to stand. Not
pleasant, but well worth it in the long run. Montreal was the first time
I ever saw them sitting down (I was sitting down; most of them were
standing up).
> ...and talk about Three Dog Night live,I saw them in '71 headlining an
> outdoor show in Toronto,other bands on the bill were,the Greaseband,Humble
> Pie & Black Sabbath,now I ask you,who could listen to Three Dog Night after
> those guys...
Don't know how I'd listen to them after those guys, but I repeat without
hesitation: Three Dog Night were a *kicking* live band. That's my story
and I'm sticking to it.
Dr. Skull:
> ...comments about "obscurity issues" with
> Keneally's music, just don't fit with my perception of it! While he can go
> off on little tangents along the way...
My problems begin when his little tangents comprise almost the entire
album.
Mark Hans wrote:
> Super Bowl picks anyone???? I'll go with the Vikes and the Jets.
And just how do you feel about it today, Mark? Don't have a lot of money
riding on it, I hope!
Condolences to all Jets/Vinny fans (myself not among them).
Frank C wrote:
> I tried to scrutinize the
> photos on the web site, but there are no pictures of Kerrys keyboards. Maybe
> an instrument section would be a nice addition to the web site?
Now where the HELL do you get off starting a crazy thread about Kerry's
keyboard rig when we're all talking about our favorite books, damn it?!
Can't you see we're busy here? Just go away and find some music list,
will ya? ;-)
(PS Recently got Frank's Etcetera/Fin de Siecle CD and it's excellent,
folks. Nice work, Frank!)
- --Jerry (Honorary Fusebro)
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:51:41 -0700
From: "Scott Steele"
Subject: gg: Opening for R-sance; Bob; Floyd/Oz; Fusesisters; paisley horsie; Knots; delaHoya
>Or maybe we should organize a tour with Etcetera, Advent, Donnamatrix, and the Gone Orchestra -- all opening for Renaissance.
The Gone Orchestra stands poised. We aspire to play in Amsterdam, hopefully Etcetera aspires to play in Portland.
That reminds me - are there more than one Donnamatrix CD? Please let's see some advertising Earl.
>Latest purchase: Steve Morse, "The Introduction" ($2.50 at the record exchange in U-gene)
Whooo! The Record Exchange - the working man's friend.
>Saw the Grateful Dead warm up GG, June 6, 1980
Huh? The Dead opened for GG?
>go ducks
They looked good on Sat!
>n.p. Weather Report "Live in Tokyo"
I love it. The first album is now on my hard drive in mp3 format - it's killin'. Is this fusion? I say: Yes.
>I heard someone once say that you could play some Pink Floyd while watching The Wizard of OZ and the two would sink up to one another. What was all that about?
It's true - I tried it with my son. We pressed Play on the CD player as the VCR was showing us the MGM lion. It worked very well indeed.
Orange Julius (not Lemon Brutus) weighs in on Stuart Nicholson's "Jazz-Rock: A History".
>i've got to give it a good grade, cause it finally got me off my ass to get a bunch of Weather Report and Return to Forever discs that i'd been waffling over for _ages_, not to mention setting me off on my previously reported Zappa-spree (the "Orchestral" thingie came in today's mail so i'll be able to report on it within the week) and quite a few other goodies.
Nicholson as Fusion Evangelist. Cool, it works for me.
>OK, stop this. We need some Fusesisters.
Kiirja, wanna be a Fusesister?
>>Then Sqeele again: "we need to be Fusion Evangelists"
>Righto! It's becoming obvious that there are many more Fusians (hey!) out there...Jerry Mac listed RTF and Billy Cobham as recently playeds, Slammin' Simon is the world's biggest Zawinul freak, Jeff Smith just bought a Jaco Tribute Bass, and the Earl of Rapp--no question. So how's about, everyone's invited to Fuseland!
Well, that would certainly be better than keeping track of a Fuselist.
>>Mark Thundergod: "What book are you reading at the moment?"
>What Color is Your Parachute, 1999 edition.
Uh oh - looking for a gig dude?
>Jeez, this was long, wasn't it?
Compensates for your usual brevity, my Fusebro.
>"...nice, paisley horsey...give the nice horsey some sugar cubes!"
Hee hee hee! Adrian Belew would be happy to talk like this.
>and how many of us have read "Knots" by RDLaing?
>Hey mam, who do you like, Trinidad or DeLaHoya???
Oscar's going to win. - S.
np: PFM Live Disk 1 (My God!)
scottst@ohsu.edu
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:55:57 +0400
From: Earl Rapp
Subject: gg: Zawinul
Hi Dan & Friends:
you replied:
>>Miles rules fusion world
>While Joe Zawinul is on vacation, that is... lol
>-korse, they did Bitches Brew and In a Silent Way together.
two of my favourite Miles' albums of all-time BTW !! I agree actually
since Miles passed away. I am a big time early Weather Report fan
I love that band. and saw the "I Sing The Body Electric" tour
it was awesome !!!
do you, being a Zawinul freak, know where I could find
the very 1st Zawinul solo album circa 71or 72 on cd ?
I believe it had "Dr. Honorus Causa" on it. if memory serves...
np Weather Report's 1st
nd coffee
Best Wishes:
Earl Rapp
http://www.vramp.net/~donnamx/
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:51:32 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: gg: Re: ~~~~~{(@)}~~~~~
- -----Original Message-----
From: Frank Lauria
>Ever read The Day of St. Anthony's Fire?
Is that about ergot poisoning?
Ant
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:51:05 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: gg: book em Danno?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark L. Potts
>What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now
>but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag,
whatever?
>And what was the book you read before that?
Actually reading 'The Psychology of Work' by Micheal Argyle. Before that it
was 'The Human Pedigree' by Anthony Smith about genetics. Both of these are
from the early 70's so a little out of date but some interesting stuff in
there. Last Fiction book was probably 'The Sot Weed Factor' by John Barth. A
mock historical, baudy, comedic hoot of a novel set in 17th century England
and Maryland USA. Before that 'Byrne' by Anthony Burgess. - Amazingly the
whole story (of a Liverpool-Irish jazz musician turned Nazi spy) is in
rhyming couplets.
I just scanned through a hardback in a shop entitled 'The Book of
Revelation' can't remember the author. It was a about a guy who's abducted
by three women who keep him naked in a white room with a chain attached to
his foreskin. The women also walk about naked and do erm.. rude things to
themselves let us say. Strange to say the least.
Ant
PS oh and I read The Inner Game Of Music some weeks ago but was not as
impressed as I thought I would be.
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:25:18 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: gg: Re: mammiepolls
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark L. Potts
>Mammie,
>
>I don't care if you are just a waste of bandwidth, I still loves-ya!
>
>I'm here, so is the fruit of my loins, Thunderchild 1.
Shouldn't that be fruitcake?
Ant
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:09:13 +0200
From: Dan Bornemark
Subject: gg: Re: on-reflection-digest V1 #1864
Frank B. Carvalho wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Here's a musicians question about our favourite band:
> I browsed Dan Barretts excellent web site looking for information about
> Kerrys keyboard setup, but unfortunately I didn't find any, so maybe some
> of you can give me an answer. I would like to know which keyboards he used
> and in which periods of time he used which models.
> I have details on all these sort of things for Tony Banks from 1969 tillnow,
> but I always found Kerrys keyboard sound a model of simplicity and taste.
> Any details you may have would be interesting. I tried to scrutinize the
> photos on the web site, but there are no pictures of Kerrys keyboards. Maybe
> an instrument section would be a nice addition to the web site? Worth a
> thought.
>
> Cheers
>
> Frank Carvalho
Frank! IŽll ask Kerry about this when I have more time!
IŽm as interested as you are on this topic!
Let me finish my record first (two more weeks) and IŽll be back! :-)
Of course Kerry used the Rhodes. The most obvious track is perhaps
PROCLAMATION and everything else on The Power & the Glory album.
Anyway, IŽll nag Kerry and be back...
Kind regards -Dan Bornemark
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:15:18 -0400
From: Bert Rubini
Subject: gg: various things
> She is crazed over You are what you is! She thinks it is sooooo funny.
>
> Can anyone out there recommend other Zappa that is suitable for a 9 year
> old?
>
Zappa that is suitable for a 9 year old? Now there's a tough call. What would Tipper Gore think?
> >I will take this moment to reitterate that HTM's reforming is the best news
> >I've had since I found out the vasectomy was successful. >>
>
> Well, the procedure was performed 12 years ago. I was trying to express, in
> very human terms, how important musically this news is to me. OK? Can you
> feel the emotion? The anticipation? The sheer joy?
>
would it be safe to say that listening to the new Happy the Man CD is similar to having a vasectomy?
> I'm attempting to catalogue all my music on my PC
> at the moment, and I was stroking it lovingly a while back.
>
Oh, come on. This is just too easy.
> What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now
> but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, whatever?
> And what was the book you read before that?
>
_The Poisonwood Bible_ by Barbara Kingsolver (currently reading)
_The Cider House Rules_ by John Irving (just finished)
> > Speaking of "Purple Haze", I once purchased a release by Elvis Hitler
> > strictly for their rendition of Purple Haze, but with the lyrics from the
> > Green Acres TV show.
>
> There's a local Boston band who used to do Stairway to Heaven with the lyrics
> from Gilligan's Isle
>
Let us not forget Dred Zeppelin, who did a cover of "Heartbreaker" using the lyrics to "Heartbreak Hotel". (the song, of course, was titled "Heartbreaker Hotel").
> > and am on with Caleb Carr's sequel to The Alienist, Angel of Darkness
> > (a good old crime novel set in 1897 NYC).
>
> A copy of _The Alienist_ has been sitting in our stack for months.
>
_The Alienist_, recommended to me by several persons, didn't do much for me. But worth a read if you are interested in the history of NYC.
> A Confederacy of Dunces. I forget the author's name though. It's hilarious.
>
John Kennedy Toole. Yes, it's hilarious.
> Neil from Northeastern Pennsylvania asks about Kronos--"Different Trains"
> (by Steve Reich) is pretty cool.
>
Wow, I got this about 2 weeks ago and I didn't even realize that it was Kronos' playing on it. It's excellent, my favorite Reich so far (out of about 5 I've heard).
> and how many of us have read "Knots" by RDLaing?
> (and who stole _my_ copy?)
>
I think the cardboard cut-out Tull from P-Franks "Stand Up" took it.
> i'd like to start a related thread - top ten fave books, any genre, fact or
> fiction, but not _just_ a list, but at least a short blurb on _why_.
>
oooh, a tough one. I'll get to work on this right away.
...so where's your list, Julius?
> Currently: The Age of Spiritual Machines
> by Ray Kurzweil
>
> Strongly recommend to anyone with a brain!
>
Well, should we read it anyway?
> Before that: The Making of Mind
> By A. R. Luria
>
Maybe we should read this one first.
> >np: Firesign Theatre, I think we're all bozos on this bus (Mr.
> >President, stop please. Now listen to me. This is Worker speaking.
> >Hello.)
>
> Squeeze the wheeze? Many people like to.......
>
I recently lent "I Think We're All Bozos on this Bus" to a friend of mine and he surprised me by saying that his kids loved it and were passing it around to listen to.
> >>There's something sexy about women cello players... Maybe it's how they
> have to sit.>>
>
> It's not how they have to sit...it's the size of their bows and how they
> wield them.
>
has anyone else this story -- I've heard it attributed to Igor Stravinsky, but I'm not sure if that's correct -- he was conducting an orchestra (in rehearsal) and the first cellist (a woman) kept making mistakes, playing out of tune, etc. Finally he turned to her and said:
"Madam, that's a beautiful instrument you have between your legs -- must you sit there and scratch at it?"
bert "got a conda made-a ston-a" r.
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