on-reflection-digest Wednesday, September 22 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1875 gg: mea culpa gg: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:52:19 +0200 gg: Rush openers gg: noGG: Matt Fatress Re: gg: One Night in Bankok Re: gg: Rush openers gg: noGG: Bert can't read gg: Rhodes parts... gg: Advancing the prawns; mennil toss flycoons; 11th House!; concert binge; Jimi's strap; Spoon/Voivod RE: gg: keyboards and such Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS Re: gg: Re: John Brunner Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS gg: HTM Re: gg: 1967-1968 Re: gg: One Night in Bankok Re: gg: 1967-1968 RE: gg: 1967-1968 gg: Another GG-Cover gg: No GG: Whipped Herb Re: gg: Another GG-Cover gg: Noel Redding Re: gg: Noel Redding gg: pay per Voivod Re: gg: Noel Redding gg: NoGG: Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce Re: nongg: Passport Re: gg: Re: John Brunner Re: gg: HTM gg: Focus, Whipped Cream,Chess gg: New, old, Mahavishnu & Euphoria Morning Re: gg: Re: Herb Alpert gg: Fw: Gentle Giant Live Tapes (Price Lowered) gg: Re: Herb Alpert Re: gg: keyboards and such gg: RE: mea culpa gg: Nogg: Focus Re: gg: Re: Herb Alpert gg: RE: mea culpa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:51:35 -0400 From: Richard Hilton Subject: gg: mea culpa At 1:52 AM -0700 9/21/99, Sven wrote, concerning live GG mellotron: >- - Nothing At All >at 10:40 - a short flute sequence >vibes towards the very end > >- - Excerpts from Octopus >at 0:15, a short vibes sequence repeated at 0:32. I hereby apologize to Sven, Frank, and you all. Sven is right, there is mellotron in those places, and it was undoubtedly played at the concert and not overdubbed. I must've misunderstood (or my memory has misled me) concerning my conversation with Kerry on the subject. Perhaps he said that he'd never use one again, as opposed to saying that he'd never used one at all. A thousand pardons, please. Best, Rich PS - I still don't hear any mellotron on Playing the Fool, but hey, I guess it could be on there, too. I'd like to know where, though. Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc. http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn" Subject: gg: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:52:19 +0200 Bert is ill, and cant read his mail. Jorunn.- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:57:20 EDT From: "Reginald Dunlop" Subject: gg: Rush openers Hello Giants! Daniel Potvin wrote: > I saw every RUSH tours from MOVING PICTURES to PRESTO and only thing > that sucks in a RUSH concert is their opening act. hmmmmm... > > We had bands like " THE SPOONS Oh yes, they definitely suck! > AND VOIVOD " and other bands that i can't remember > the name but god they sucked. What? I saw Voivod open for Rush in Toronto...and they blew Rush off the stage. The crowd was in awe...like a nuclear bomb had just been dropped(my friends and I were getting right off on it :) The looks of the crowd were quite similar to those of Robert Fripp's soundscape noodling *entrance music* before the G-3 Tour. However, that's not to say Rush sucked after the Voivod opener. It was a ying and a yang bill. Voivod opening for Rush is like the infamous bill of Black Sabbath opening for Yes in the early '70s. >what is the big deal here why do we get dum groups as the > opening act. Voivod is not a dumb group...read the lyrics from the albums "Killing Technology" all the way up to "Phobos", and you'll find Voivod as being the thinking man's progressive thrash band(Metallica and Megadeth wishing they could even come close to what Voivod do). You might hear some nifty musicianship in there as well. Voivod aren't for everyone, however, if you have an open mind for a heavy metal thrash band incorporating King Crimson time sigs. and the like, they could end up being one of your favourites. If you don't like heavy metal whatsoever, then I could see where you're coming from. > > I still remember on the signals tour " THE SPOON " were opening and they >lasted 15 mins > on stage because everybody were throwing at them beer cups, This, I can understand. :) >bathroom tissue and i even saw a chair > end up on stage ( no kidding ). it was almost a riot. Too much Caribou, eh? ;) > > The only tour with a great opening act was on the "POWER WINDOW " tour >when MARILLION > opened for RUSH now that was a great show. Well, I saw the "Counterpoints" tour, and Primus opened up. A great opening act for sure. Also, I saw Mr. Big open for Rush on the "Presto" tour in Detroit. One helluva a shitty band, but great musicians...it's just the material they chose to play. Billy Sheehan is a kick ass bass player. Tommy Shaw open for the Rushmeisters on the "Hold Your Fire" tour, great opener...even though I'm not much of a Styx fan. Ranting, REG np: Voivod - "Nothingface" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:02:50 EDT From: Biffyshrew@aol.com Subject: gg: noGG: Matt Fatress The liner notes to my _Fat Mattress_ CD state: "The following year, whilst being wooed by both Warner and Polydor, Fat Mattress supported the Jimi Hendrix Experience tour in the states. Redding would play guitar with Fat Mattress, then take the stage in his familiar role as bassist with The Experience." I would like to check my more reliable Hendrix books for corroboration but I--er--left them in my other pants. Fred Rosenkamp wrote: >Besides, Fat Mattress could never have opened for Hendrix, 'cause Jimi >hadn't done any concerts in the UK yet: didn't have a band and music at the >time of these auditions (October '66). Huh? As you state yourself, Fat Mattress formed in 1968. *** Remember the discussion of whether the Beatles' butcher cover was still all that valuable? The still sealed copy that was recently up for auction from Good Rockin' Tonight sold for $38,500...the highest price ever paid for a record at auction. Your pal, Biffy the Elephant Shrew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:30:55 +0300 From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?=22=DCM=DDT_BAYKARA=22?= Subject: Re: gg: One Night in Bankok >>dashthecat@webtv.net wrote: >> >> hmmm, it's early and I'm half asleep. That's from a musical.... Miss >> Saigon? Or which one, I can hear the voice in my head singing it (as >> opposed to it telling me what to do again)... but I can't pinpoint the >> show... >> >Chess, isn't it? >Sven Yes, it's from Chess musical, Murray Head & ABBA singing...I was in Bangkok last summer and wanted to buy a CD of this song there. It's funny that most of the people, even the DJ's didn't know that song...Finally, I found a different version of it other than Chess musical, in an 80's compilation CD...:-) Cheers, Umit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: Rush openers On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Reginald Dunlop wrote: > music* before the G-3 Tour. However, that's not to say Rush sucked > after the Voivod opener. It was a ying and a yang bill. Voivod > opening for Rush is like the infamous bill of Black Sabbath opening > for Yes in the early '70s. Or Jimi opening for the Monkees. Or Dr. Feelgood opening for ... what was the name of that 70s progressive band that played all the different instruments and sang four-part harmonies...? > Well, I saw the "Counterpoints" tour, and Primus opened up. A great > opening act for sure. Also, I saw Mr. Big open for Rush on the > "Presto" tour in Detroit. One helluva a shitty band, but great > musicians...it's just the material they chose to play. Billy Sheehan > is a kick ass bass player. I'm afraid the one time I saw Rush, the opening act was Starz. Not BAD, but pretty quotidian. David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:12:18 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: gg: noGG: Bert can't read >Bert is ill, and cant read his mail. > Jorunn. > Get well soon, Bert! (If you can read this). Cheers, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:17:37 -0400 From: veeter@vermontel.net Subject: gg: Rhodes parts... Anyone know a good U.S. source for Fender Rhodes parts? FI have a Suitcase 88model I'm restoring. I found one place in Illinois called 'Smat Parts', anyone know of any others ? Thanks in advance, John Ryan np:Gong-Shapeshifter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:35:44 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: Advancing the prawns; mennil toss flycoons; 11th House!; concert binge; Jimi's strap; Spoon/Voivod >Emphasising the importance of advancing the pawns, I'll offer Discipline's Push and Profit. I'll have some of . . . oh sorry, I thought you said *prawns*. >"mennil toss flycoons"...don't know what it means...but sounds cool...THANKS! Movin' to Montana soon - gonna be a mennil toss flycoon. - FZ. >Aside from LC and AM, the bass players name was Buddy Burnell Bunny Brunel, fusion bass playing monster who lives in LA. >and the horn man was from Japan and had the last name of "Ono"...I couldn't make out the first name. They were all great! Did you notice the lack of a keyboard player? Did that bug you at all? >Individuals that were supertight together...in fact it was so good the first time, I went back on Saturday, and dragged along some friends who had never heard of Larry Coryell before... Now this is *exactly* what I was talking about when I was saying that we all need to be Fusion Evangelists. Just perfect Rev. Skull. >As a aside...I have been on a little concert binge lately. In the last nine days I've seen Andy Summers; McCoy Tyner; Larry Coryell (Twice), and I'm going to see Ten Years After tonight!!! Shit, I feel 18 again! Makes one want to move to a major metropolitan center like LA instead of a backwater town like Portland. Oh well, I'll change my mind again as I'm driving home, looking at that big hunk of granite called Mt. Hood. This time of year, there is very little snow up there. It is Portland's Fujiyama. >See you all in NYC!!!! I'm pumped!! >'My version' of the story - which of course IS the truth - ;) Of course Fred. You are a valuable source of info. Thank you sir. >>A couple of friends went to see N. Redding at a small club in town a few years back...they chided him and told him that he couldn't carry Jimi's strap. >I guess Mr. Redding must have been quite hurt...This is definitely NOT what he deserves. He probably considered the source of the comment and ignored it. >We had bands like " THE SPOON AND VOIVOD " and other bands that i can't remember the name but god they sucked. Hee hee hee - here comes Julian! I saw Gary Moore open for them once, that was pretty cool. - S. np: Charlie Hunter, Ready Set Shango scottst@ohsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:23:23 PDT From: "Henrik Johansson" Subject: RE: gg: keyboards and such >>>>I'm sure he told me that he never toured with one [mellotron], >>>This surprises me though. On 'Playing the Fool' there's definitely a >>>mellotron in the Octopus medley during 'Knots'. Was this added during the >>>mix - like the clav? >>There is no mellotron on Playing the Fool >Yes, I know about the clav addition. But on my CD version of PtF there >*definitely* is mellotron strings on the 'Knots' section. I bought this on >CD recently (One Way Records - single disc version) and almost fell off the >chair when that mellotron sound kicked in. It really came as a surprise. I >don't seem to remember it from my LP version. I am not a newbie to >mellotrons, and I am not mistaken. Another master tape? Another mix? I >don't know. but a tron it definitely is. Where??? Can you tell me where you hear a mellotron on PtF? Henrik J ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:19:13 +0000 From: Diana Green Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS hail; re: Dan Weese wrote: > are amusing, but I hope nobody takes them very seriously here. > > > Point taken. "Well, you boys fight it out amongst yourselves." "Okay, Mother." "Objectivity is subjective!" "Not when it transcends a rational plane of thought!" still, dg np: Shawn Phillips: Contribution- shawn is coming to town sunday- thank God the tickets were cheap- be my 9th or 10th time seeing him perform! ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 1999 12:27:42 -0500 From: "Lindsey Spratt" Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 10:38 AM, David J. Loftus wrote: > _The Films of Akira Kurosawa_ by Donald Richie ...but not "Something Like an Autobiography" by Kurosawa-sama himself? - -lindsey ------------------------------ Date: 21 Sep 1999 13:00:38 -0500 From: "Lindsey Spratt" Subject: Re: gg: Re: John Brunner On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 5:29 PM, drj_saro wrote: > _most_ of Brunner's novels were hack-work, with the extreme exception of > the > two mentioned above plus "The Shockwave Rider" (all 3 of which should be > required reading for citizens of the 21st Century.) > Oooh. This is WAY harsh, particularly since his entire catalogue was out of print for years. Shocking. I think there are now some back in publication. Almost all of his work is at least enjoyable, and some of it stands as master works in the genre. - -lindsey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS On 21 Sep 1999, Lindsey Spratt wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 10:38 AM, David J. Loftus > wrote: > > _The Films of Akira Kurosawa_ by Donald Richie > > ...but not "Something Like an Autobiography" by Kurosawa-sama himself? > -lindsey I have it, and it's pleasant enough, but it's not one of my top favorites. The Richie book brings all the movies back in memory, with lots of stills to assist. David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:14:23 PDT From: "Dan Weese" Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS > > Tolkien > > are amusing, but I hope nobody takes them very seriously here. > > > > > Point taken. Did Ayn Rand really die of an objectified ego? Some conjecture that Nietzsche died while trying to overpower himself. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:28:48 -0400 From: Marty Mermelstein Subject: gg: HTM From Martty Mermelstein Marty@Global.Dataart.com FYI I purchased HTM and Crafty Hands through the artist shop. I got them at my house on the release date. There net address if Artist-Shop.com or you can call 877-856-1158. Regards, Marty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:17:19 +0200 From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze) Subject: Re: gg: 1967-1968 Frank B. Carvalho schrieb: > >never declined (rest in peace, dad!). He would always have the radio on and > > >listen to the then most popular station in Frankfurt, Germany. And all they > > >would play day in and day out was stuff like Bert Kaempfert, Herb Alpert > and all > >those people. So, my earliest musical memories are of all those great band > >leaders whose influence can still be felt today. And in going back to the > CDs of > >people whose names I remember, I have to admit to still love them today - > >especially the 2 mentioned above. > > You forgot James Last. He was the last(!) of the big three party music > kings. > Don't miss out 'James Last in Scandinavia'. An unforgettable classic that > has > recently been rereleased. Just listen to those big party sing-along choirs > in the background. Boy are they having fun on those records! James Last was > big in Scandinavia. > > And BTW, Bert Kaempfert actually produced the early album by the Beatles > with Tony Sheridan. Tons of reverb on that one! > > Cheers > > Frank Carvalho > Well, of course, I wouldn't forget our own James Last. His "Non-Stop DAncing" LP series introduced me to rock and pop music - incredible though it may seem. Shame they haven't put those out on CD yet - especially in view of the still lasting retro/easy listening movement. the Krautmeister > > > > > > Re: gg: 1967-1968 > > > >

>never declined (rest in peace, dad!). He would always > have the radio on and >
>listen to the then most popular station in Frankfurt, > Germany. And all they >
>would play day in and day out was stuff like Bert > Kaempfert, Herb Alpert and all >
>those people. So, my earliest musical memories are of > all those great band >
>leaders whose influence can still be felt today. And in > going back to the CDs of >
>people whose names I remember, I have to admit to still > love them today - >
>especially the 2 mentioned above. >

> >

You forgot James Last. He was the last(!) of the big three > party music kings. >
Don't miss out 'James Last in Scandinavia'. An unforgettable > classic that has >
recently been rereleased. Just listen to those big party > sing-along choirs >
in the background. Boy are they having fun on those records! > James Last was >
big in Scandinavia. >

> >

And BTW, Bert Kaempfert actually produced the early album by > the Beatles >
with Tony Sheridan. Tons of reverb on that one! >

> >

Cheers >

> >

Frank Carvalho >

> > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:20:56 +0200 From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze) Subject: Re: gg: One Night in Bankok dashthecat@webtv.net schrieb: > hmmm, it's early and I'm half asleep. That's from a musical.... Miss > Saigon? Or which one, I can hear the voice in my head singing it (as > opposed to it telling me what to do again)... but I can't pinpoint the > show... > > ~meow~ > Kathy > Well, of course it was half-Abba's musical "Chess" - with Murray Head singing the great One Night In Bangkok. Not quite prog though, is it? the Krautmeister ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:09:28 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: Re: gg: 1967-1968 >Well, of course, I wouldn't forget our own James Last. His "Non-Stop DAncing" LP >series introduced me to rock and pop music - incredible though it may seem. >Shame they haven't put those out on CD yet - especially in view of the still >lasting retro/easy listening movement. >the Krautmeister The James Last Orchestra, because of it's huge popularity, was also a save (financial) spot for a lot of German session musicians, like, If I'm not mistaken, drummer Curt Cress and others (Klaus Doldinger, Jürgen Fritz?) I was always kind of embarassed when every now and then I discovered a serious, cool rock/prog/jazz-rock musician in such an uncool outfit as the James Last Orch. Cheers, Fred np: Beatles - Yellow Submarine (only joking!) np: Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:38:18 -0700 From: Aldo Ballestrasse Subject: RE: gg: 1967-1968 Fred wrote - -snip drummer Curt Cress and others (Klaus Doldinger, Jürgen Fritz?) -snip This reminds me of an LP I used to have I think it was called Klaus Dolinger Jubilee. It was a live - non-Passport - recorded, I believe, in Germany. It had some great players on it. Can anyone refresh my memory? Is it on CD? Aldo n.p, Genesis, Twilight Francehouse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:06:57 +0200 From: "Robert Eksteen, Leiden" Subject: gg: Another GG-Cover Hello Raconteurs, I don't know if someone mentioned this before, but there is another GG-cover (how many are there?) Before the American band Hands called themselves Hands, they were called Prism (a rather sympho-proggish name, don't you think?). As such, they performed live on a radio station of some sort. These two gigs are on CD (Shroom productions) and include a very animated Plain Truth. Also a ditto Great Deceiver. And also a lot of proto-Hands stuff. Very nervous, virtuoso stuff. I quite like it, as I do the rest of their work. They enjoy themselves tremendously, and you can hear that on this record. If you are a sucker for Yezda Urfa or Happy the Man, this band may be of some interest to you. Best, Robert Eksteen, Leiden, The Netherlands rke@xs4all.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:27:41 -0500 From: Jim Klocek Subject: gg: No GG: Whipped Herb > > In fact, his album Whipped Cream and Other Delights was one of the first > > risqué covers I had ever seen. (For those who don't know, the album > > featured a brunette covered in whipped cream, licking her finger, and > > looking into the camera with THAT look in her eyes.) For a 12 year old, > > it > > was an eye opener.... -David Eric Hoo-boy..parallel adolescence! Gimme a spoon and I'll bring the pudding! Jim np: Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:56:12 PDT From: "Brad Oldham" Subject: Re: gg: Another GG-Cover Hail all, Robert Eksteen, Leiden wrote: >Hello Raconteurs, > >I don't know if someone mentioned this before, but there is another >GG-cover (how many are there?) >Before the American band Hands called themselves Hands, they were called >Prism (a rather sympho-proggish name, don't you think?). As such, they >performed live on a radio station of some sort. These two gigs are on CD >(Shroom productions) and include a very animated Plain Truth. Also a ditto >Great Deceiver. And also a lot of proto-Hands stuff. >Very nervous, virtuoso stuff. I quite like it, as I do the rest of their >work. They enjoy themselves tremendously, and you can hear that on this >record. >If you are a sucker for Yezda Urfa or Happy the Man, this band may be of >some interest to you. > Prism and Hands featured fellow OR-member Michael Clay, although Michael hasn't been heard from for a while. I have the Hands and Prism CDs and enjoy them very much. The Prism radio concert referred to above was on KZEW, a now defunct radio station in Dallas, Prism/Hands' hometown. Last I heard, Hands was reforming and was going to play at, I believe, Progfest. Anybody know any more about that? Jerry McCarthy, do you know? Brad ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:05:36 -0400 (EDT) From: mammienun@webtv.net Subject: gg: Noel Redding My Redding bashing friends would like to thank David Eric for the compliment. To be called human beings really made their day. And the horrible adjective was the icing on the cake! These guys are huge Hendrix fans and from what I'm told Noel had made some disparaging remarks regarding his status in 'Jimi's' band. He thought he was a better guitar player, singer, and songwriter. Bottom line, Noel Redding believed that Jimi Hendrix should have been working for him! That's a lot of sour grapes...and after all these years where does he end up? Playing at some dive bar in Utica, NY. Hell..I do that every other weekend. If you believe Noel Redding deserves better, that's your business. Me...I'll still be laughing every time my friends tell their story. Later, Ez ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:29:53 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: Re: gg: Noel Redding >These guys are huge >Hendrix fans and from what I'm told Noel had made some disparaging >remarks regarding his status in 'Jimi's' band. He thought he was a >better guitar player, singer, and songwriter. Bottom line, Noel Redding >believed that Jimi Hendrix should have been working for him! This is quite another context. Mayby in other words, but I guess I'd given Noel a similar reply. If he really thinks he's superior to Hendrix, I pity this frustrated man. Cheers, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:13:41 -0400 From: astley@ica.net Subject: gg: pay per Voivod Hi All, >P.S. I told ya so about that fight, knew it would be rigged somehow though >they dared not have another draw. When will you people get it?? As long as >you're buying these PPVs, the worse it's gonna get!!! DON'T BUY ANY MORE!!! >Duh... >> and Duh...to you too,I didn't pay a cent,stopped doing that after the SRL/MH fight many years ago.. >We had bands like " THE SPOON AND VOIVOD " and other bands that i can't remember > the name but god they sucked. what is the big deal here why do we get dum groups as the > opening act. Hey Daniel,be careful what you say about VOIVOD,you could feel the wrath of the Dunlop dude,he can be very nasty if provoked... Dave Sr.mature student ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:17:10 -0700 From: "Frank Lauria" Subject: Re: gg: Noel Redding From: Fred Rosenkamp To: mammienun@webtv.net >>These guys are huge >>Hendrix fans and from what I'm told Noel had made some disparaging >>remarks regarding his status in 'Jimi's' band. He thought he was a >>better guitar player, singer, and songwriter. Bottom line, Noel Redding >>believed that Jimi Hendrix should have been working for him! > >This is quite another context. Mayby in other words, but I guess I'd given >Noel a similar reply. If he really thinks he's superior to Hendrix, I pity >this frustrated man. I wasn't in that dive bar in Utica, but I do remember reading somewhere that Noel had a major attitude about having to back up Jimi--he thought *he* should have been playing guitar up front. I always found that amusing. P-Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:18:46 -0700 From: "Frank Lauria" Subject: gg: NoGG: Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce Saw Bruce & E-Street last week. Man, what a great band. Nice to see them back together playing live again. P-Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:21:37 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: Re: nongg: Passport In a message dated 9/21/99 2:41:51 PM Mountain Daylight Time, aldob@sisa.samsung.com writes: << Fred wrote -snip drummer Curt Cress and others (Klaus Doldinger, Jürgen Fritz?) -snip This reminds me of an LP I used to have I think it was called Klaus Dolinger Jubilee. It was a live - non-Passport - recorded, I believe, in Germany. It had some great players on it. Can anyone refresh my memory? Is it on CD? >> Well, it kinda IS a Passport-recorded LP w/lots of guest stars: Les McCann/Philip Catherine/Johnny Griffin/Buddy Guy/Pete York recorded live in Hamburg August 28/29 1975. 6 tracks: Compared To What/Albatros Song/Abracadabra/Jadoo/Ready For Takeoff/Angel Wings My LP is Atlantic SD18162, no idea if it's on CD anywhere... Dan 666 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:27:32 -0400 From: "drj_saro" Subject: Re: gg: Re: John Brunner From: Lindsey Spratt Subject: Re: gg: Re: John Brunner >On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 5:29 PM, drj_saro wrote: >> _most_ of Brunner's novels were hack-work, with the extreme exception of >> the >> two mentioned above plus "The Shockwave Rider" (all 3 of which should be >> required reading for citizens of the 21st Century.) >> > >Oooh. This is WAY harsh, particularly since his entire catalogue was out of >print for years. Shocking. I think there are now some back in publication. > >Almost all of his work is at least enjoyable, and some of it stands as >master works in the genre. > >-lindsey > i've read a _lot_ of Brunner and i stand by what i've said above - i would be interested to know what other of his books you would consider "master works". thank you for your time and attention. Julius J. SAROKA drj_saro@neo.rr.com Cuyahoga Falls OHIO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:41:15 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: Re: gg: HTM In a message dated 9/21/99 12:33:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Marty@Global.Dataart.com writes: << FYI I purchased HTM and Crafty Hands through the artist shop. I got them at my house on the release date. There net address if Artist-Shop.com or you can call 877-856-1158. >> Personal Message: JACK SKELLY PLEASE E-MAIL ME I LOST YOUR ADDIE And now back to regular programming: New Wayside catalog came today and I'm not only broke but blind going through the damn thing...both HTM available here for $10 each. I'll just have to start delivering papers in the morning to fund my cd fix...hey, I'm not doing anything at 4am!!! And I thought I could get rich selling alcohol. Hahahahahaha!!! http://www.cuneiformrecords.com Dan6666666 n.d why, yes! Thanks for asking! n.p. GG live in Denver 1980 JACK SKELLY PLEASE E-MAIL ME ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:56:04 EDT From: Dokwebb@aol.com Subject: gg: Focus, Whipped Cream,Chess Scott wrote >I finally got Focus' Hamburger Concerto and Live at the Rainbow this weekend - - forgot how much I missed them. I love 'em. < I've been meaning to get Hamburger Concerto for years on disc! Where did you find it?? 1974 was a very good year! I remember the Herb Alpert Whipped Cream album... my brother and I did a Mexican Hat dance to it at a talent show in grade school! The cover did have woody generating characteristics for the youngblooded imagination! It's still in my vinyl collection somewhere... My chess contribution is Holistic Medicine from Islildur Bane's Mind Vol. 1. Has someone said this already? np: Tree - Music for Films and Forests by Jane Siberry from the New York Trilogy, live at the Bottom Line ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: JohnEric Subject: gg: New, old, Mahavishnu & Euphoria Morning I purchased two outstanding CDs today. The long anticipated lost Trident sessions by Mahavishnu are delightful to say the least. I use to wonder why I'd never heard any of the "Between Nothingness and Eternity" live release before in studio form ... now I know why. They were recorded, just not released. Now, they are. The three songs on their live release are represented here, in studio. There are also three other pieces as well. The other delightful surprise was a solo release by Chris Cornell. This CD qualifies as progressive in style and quality. If you liked him in Temple of the Dog and Soundgarden, then you'll like this. If you DIDN'T like those bands you STILL might like this. It is well conceived, satisfyingly complicated, interestingly sung, and meticulously produced. By all means listen to it first before buying ... but my money practically leapt out of my pocket after only a brief sampling. JohnEric === http://www.mindspring.com/~jjellison/nightsky.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:53:07 -0500 From: Steve and Terry Lottich Subject: Re: gg: Re: Herb Alpert At 10:49 AM 9/21/99 +0200, Frank B. Carvalho wrote: > >Yes- Herb Alpert was another one from that time period I also >listened to. >>In fact, his album Whipped Cream and Other Delights was one of the first >> (For those who don't know, the album >>featured a brunette covered in whipped cream, licking her finger, and >> For a 12 year old, it >> -David Eric ...mmmmm! My parents had that one too! Frank Is there anybody on the list who's dad *didn't* have this? SteveL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:06:53 -0700 From: "Frank Lauria" Subject: gg: Fw: Gentle Giant Live Tapes (Price Lowered) Now, if I only had $175... P-Frank - -----Original Message----- From: ProgCity Newsgroups: rec.music.progressive Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 7:36 PM Subject: Gentle Giant Live Tapes (Price Lowered) My collection of 35 live Gentle Giant tapes from 1971-1980 did not sell for $225. Price is now $175 postpaid in US/Canada. These are my originals, not copies. I'm getting out of collecting. Email if interested. Ken Aldrich Chief Engineer ProgCity@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:18:32 -0700 From: William Tindall Subject: gg: Re: Herb Alpert Lottich wonders about Whipped Cream: << Is there anybody on the list who's dad *didn't* have this?>> Yup. Me. I bought it myself, being a trumpet-learning kid, and grokking Herb & the Brass. My dad did allow me to buy it, though, giggling and saying "Wait 'til your mother sees this!" Bill "Where's my spoon???" T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:28:23 +0200 From: Sven Eriksen Subject: Re: gg: keyboards and such Henrik Johansson wrote: > > >>>>I'm sure he told me that he never toured with one [mellotron], > > >>>This surprises me though. On 'Playing the Fool' there's definitely a > >>>mellotron in the Octopus medley during 'Knots'. Was this added during the > >>>mix - like the clav? > > >>There is no mellotron on Playing the Fool > > >Yes, I know about the clav addition. But on my CD version of PtF there > >*definitely* is mellotron strings on the 'Knots' section. I bought this on > >CD recently (One Way Records - single disc version) and almost fell off the > >chair when that mellotron sound kicked in. It really came as a surprise. I > >don't seem to remember it from my LP version. I am not a newbie to > >mellotrons, and I am not mistaken. Another master tape? Another mix? I > >don't know. but a tron it definitely is. > > Where??? Can you tell me where you hear a mellotron on PtF? I can hear no Mellotron on PtF. If you mean the instrument playing the melody line just before the vocals start in "Knots", that is played by the Moog. You can hear the isntrument playing a similar tone after the vocal part. Kerry had strange voices in his Minimoog. Sven ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:14:22 +0200 From: "Frank B. Carvalho" Subject: gg: RE: mea culpa This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF04CA.18986B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi! >I hereby apologize to Sven, Frank, and you all. Sven is right, there >is mellotron in those places, and it was undoubtedly played at the >concert and not overdubbed. I must've misunderstood (or my memory >has misled me) concerning my conversation with Kerry on the subject. >Perhaps he said that he'd never use one again, as opposed to saying >that he'd never used one at all. Well, I went and close listened the section on PtF. It is in the Octopus medley from 6:30 to 6:41. But I am now in doubt. It could in fact be a lousy amplified violin through a phaser. In that case it would have to be Derek playing it as all the other sound busy on their primary instruments. So you may remember correctly about the tour rig. But in the mix it sounds very close to one of the thin mellotron string sounds. Cheers Frank Carvalho - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF04CA.18986B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: mea culpa

Hi!

>I hereby apologize to Sven, Frank, and you all.  Sven is right, there
>is mellotron in those places, and it was undoubtedly played at the
>concert and not overdubbed.  I must've misunderstood (or my memory
>has misled me) concerning my conversation with Kerry on the subject.
>Perhaps he said that he'd never use one again, as opposed to saying
>that he'd never used one at all.

Well, I went and close listened the section on PtF. It is in the Octopus medley
from 6:30 to 6:41. But I am now in doubt. It could in fact be a lousy amplified
violin through a phaser. In that case it would have to be Derek playing it
as all the other sound busy on their primary instruments. So you may remember
correctly about the tour rig. But in the mix it sounds very close to one of the
thin mellotron string sounds.

Cheers

Frank Carvalho

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF04CA.18986B70-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:17:36 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: gg: Nogg: Focus > >I've been meaning to get Hamburger Concerto for years on disc! Where did you >find it?? 1974 was a very good year! You can find it at Rockhouse The CD can be backordered. It's called '2 in 1: Live at the Rainbow/Hamburger Concerto' and it goes for US$ 21.25 plus S+H. It's the cheapest I could find. For any hard-to-find stuff I always check out which is a music marketplace for CD's/vinyl (new and used) and some other stuff (like memorabilia) too. Cheers, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 05:23:02 -0700 (PDT) From: JohnEric Subject: Re: gg: Re: Herb Alpert My father was the proud owner of this album as well. Perhaps it was an identity thing for that generation of fathers. Alpert must have made quite a bit off of that LP. A voyeuristic way to safely "step out" a little, without getting nailed. Later in life, my preference was The Baja Marimba Band over Alpert. JohnEric - --- William Tindall wrote: > Lottich wonders about Whipped Cream: > > << Is there anybody on the list who's dad *didn't* have this?>> > > Yup. Me. I bought it myself, being a trumpet-learning kid, and > grokking Herb & the Brass. My dad did allow me to buy it, though, > giggling and saying "Wait 'til your mother sees this!" > > Bill "Where's my spoon???" T > > > ===== http://www.mindspring.com/~jjellison/nightsky.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:58:48 -0400 From: Richard Hilton Subject: gg: RE: mea culpa At 9:14 AM +0200 9/22/99, Frank B. Carvalho wrote: >Well, I went and close listened the section on PtF. It is in the >Octopus medley >from 6:30 to 6:41. But I am now in doubt. It could in fact be a >lousy amplified >violin through a phaser. That's Minimoog, probably through a phaser, played by Kerry with his right hand. Best, Rich Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc. http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html ------------------------------ End of on-reflection-digest V1 #1875 ************************************