on-reflection-digest Friday, September 24 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1879 Re: gg: Rhodes parts... gg: GFT gg: The hot heat of Jeff Beck and his orchestra gg: Various Things gg: No GG: Christmas pudding RE: Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers gg: Tangerine Dream gg: Get ready to pour my first drink... Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS gg: O-R, HTM, Roman numerals gg: King Crimson concert gg: Zappa's live thing gg: strange movie juxtaposition & AtT cover gg: Cyberslag; movies; executroids; Flash gg: Re: Roxy Re: nongg: Passport Re: gg: Tangerine Dream gg: Nick's T-shirt gg: Caput Ludi Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers gg: "The Fragile" gg: Re: Dis Gus Thing Al Bottom Covers (or Man, that STINX!) gg: Bawdy numerals... gg: RE: No GG: Movin' to Montana Soon gg: GG after.... gg: RE: Bawdy numerals... gg: Montana... gg: Montana... gg: Redding / Kottke Re: gg: RE: No GG: Movin' to Montana Soon Re: nongg: Passport gg: No GG : Seventh Wave Re: gg: bawdy bawdy bawdy Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers Re: gg: Steve 50; Hendrix as the other guitarist; KC Mx; later Passport; I Got Stripes Re: gg: 1967-1968 gg: NoGG: Is that a Sears poncho? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Tillman Subject: Re: gg: Rhodes parts... From: veeter@vermontel.net Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:17:37 -0400 Anyone know a good U.S. source for Fender Rhodes parts? FI have a Suitcase 88model I'm restoring. I found one place in Illinois called 'Smat Parts', anyone know of any others? Check the Rhodes web sites I posted; they list a whole bunch of parts suppliers. Again that's: The Rhodes Information Site: http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal95aam/rhodes/ And the Rhodes Help Desk: http://www.badrat.com/rhodes/ -- Don ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:42:56 +0100 From: Bob Taylor Subject: gg: GFT Hello all Of concern to anyone who uses GFT for their mail-order: ------- Forwarded message follows ------- >Hello GFT customer >My apologies for sending personal mail and not a GFT update but Malcolm >(GFT MD and walking prog encyclopeadia) was involved in a serious car >accident on Monday, as a result there will be some delays in fulfilling >orders. The other staff only work afternoons so please be patient - all >orders will be fulfilled but it will take just a little longer to >process them. We are hoping that he makes a swift recovery and normal >service will be resumed as soon as possible. >Regards >Andy >pp GFT Ltd And since you could not wish to speak to a nicer bloke than Malcolm, here's hoping his injuries are light and he makes a speedy recovery. Bob - -- Robert Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:24:13 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: The hot heat of Jeff Beck and his orchestra I missed Godspeed You Black Emperor and Labradford last night (pain! Pain!) (oh yeah, I missed Star Trek Voyager last night too) because I was sitting in Portland's Civic Auditorium with my few strands of remaining hair starched backward by Jeff Beck and his band. It was sure hot. I guess they have been on the road for the last two years - a well-oiled machine. They were not tired of each other or bored (things we often see in Portland from visiting international acts). The only Jeff Beck petulant moment came during Blue Wind - he seemed to cut that way short because he didn't like something his amp was doing or not doing. Of course it wouldn't have been a JB show without something like that happening - last time I saw him (Best of Beck tour) he hurled a guitar at his guitar tech, who barked at him, he barked back, guess who won the argument. Between the drummer (Steve Alexander) and Ms Jennifer Batten (on guitar synthesizer and samples and the electronic kitchen sink) it was like a miniature NAMM. The bass player (Brian Hope-Taylor) was Dr. Jekyll solid all night until his solo, then out comes Mr. Hyde Bass-Guitar-Monster - it was Thumb Slappin' Hell. Tempos in general were completely ridiculous. I loved it! I bought a shirt, 2 pins (one for Shannon), a Jennifer Batten CD and a Steve Alexander CD. I sat between two drummer-friends. During Big Block I turned to one of the drummers and noted "it sure is nice that this drummer is here tonight blowing Bozzio away" or something like that. Same thing for Simon Phillips' parts - Jeff has surrounded himself with a whole new wave of fusion monsters. Another friend has a boot video shot professionally in Brazil. I haven't seen it yet but I want to own it badly. He hasn't done a live album since the JHG, has he? This would be a great show to document, though Sony/Columbia probably wouldn't put it out, it would bury Beckology in a way. On the other hand, Disk 3 of Beckology could be replaced by a 2-CD set reflecting an entire concert from this group. If you didn't see it, you should have stolen a car and sold it or something - any way to have enough money to go to this show - it was unmissable. Especially since, considering his track record, we probably won't see him again until he's 60 years old. He's 55 but looks 35 on stage. What a drummer. And what a - whatever it is that Ms Batten plays - she sounds like Jan Hammer, Tony Hymas and Jeff Beck rolled into one. But the best thing of all was watching the miraculous shit the old fella was doing with the Strat plugged directly into the two Marshall stacks and the new retro Fender amp. Harmonics down around the 2nd fret, hammering on the slide way up next to the pickups, etc etc. He's better than ever, and his new band is his best ever. And he's played before with some of my heroes - life would suck without Jan, Simon, Terry, Stanley Clarke, among others - but he's peaking right now. I love it. - S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:17:45 -0400 From: Jonathan Roberts Subject: gg: Various Things I'm finally getting caught up on old OR messages with the aid of a laptop -- rather that I'd gotten the laptop some other way, though... First album I bought was the Who's . First one I owned is a toss-up among recordings of Smetana's (sp?) and Borodin's (I always had the vision in my head of a gigantic staircase in the middle of that continent) and Pete Seeger's . I later of course had a copy of which is the first LP I wore out -- but the turntable we had at the time likely tracked at about 5 kilos... friends and I did play cardboard boxes along with this recording, no air guitar, though. First prog was probably either Crimson or Yes. It took me years to get into Genesis, though, as I couldn't stand Gabriel's voice. I eventually got used to it. Thing I liked right away about GG was that the singer didn't sound like he'd inhaled a hit of helium before giving voice. I also quite liked Focus and went to see them in NYC, where they played quite well indeed. The second opeing act was the Spencer Davis Group (no Winwood, of course) and the first opening act some Rolling-Stones-would-be-clone called Aerosmith -- did they ever amount to anything? To combine this missive with a poll, the first GG release I bought was , which was newly released at the time (also wore this LP out). It got some airplay on WNEW-FM. I had seen the "In Concert" TV show one night and heard this rather nifty band when suddenly they whipped out some recorders and started tooting away. "Neat," I thought, then they did a little bit of "Yankee Doodle" and I thought, "Not only are these guys damned good, they've got a sense of humor as well!" (I should note that by this time I was taking guitar lessons from a fellow who also played lute and viola da gamba in an ensemble with an excellent recorder player, so I had some familiarity with music of the period GG were mining.) I had better equipment by then but I STILL wore the grooves out on . Having no older siblings to steal records from, the only time I got anything from a family member was once at Thanksgiving where my cousin John had been assigned to keep me out of others' hair. He sat me by a turntable and handed me some records by the Byrds, Jimi Hendrix, and Spanky and Our Gang. The things that made me buy certain recordings varied, though. I'd heard Tangerine Dream on the radio but hadn't bought anything by them. Then one day I was hanging around Sam Ash in White Plains one winter afternoon and started doing a sound scuplture with another fellow, I noodling on an ARP String Ensemble and he doing some stuff with a Mellotron. When I left the store I walked straight to a record shop and bought . In the CD player at the moment: Os Mutantes, RIchard X. Heyman's , Alexander (Skip) Spence's (new reissue with bonus tracks), Mayo Thompson's , and Mike Oldfield's (original mix, transferred from my old LP). Best, -- Jon jonathan roberts \ the region of where guitar:synth:notes \ mailto:nartsegg@pobox.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:17:50 -0500 From: Jim Klocek Subject: gg: No GG: Christmas pudding > > > ... (For those who don't know, the album > > > featured a brunette covered in whipped cream, licking her finger, and > > > looking into the camera with THAT look in her eyes.) For a 12 year > old, > > > it was an eye opener.... -David Eric > > > > Hoo-boy...parallel adolescence! Gimme a spoon and I'll bring the > pudding! > Jery M. wrote: > "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" > It must be getting close to Christmas, because I haven't gotten such a good straight line in a while!!!!!! Jim np: Paul Weller Greatest Hits ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:58:20 -0400 From: Toby Trott Subject: RE: Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers Wacky Racontuers, Neil aka WhytePunk@aol.com commented: >Well, just what is that tongue licking on GG's "Acquiring the Taste"? > >It seems like that knife is cutting into a kidney though, I don't understand >that part...maybe it's just my imagination! Actually you should be able to tell it's an apple, Neil. Dirty minded people. You will find my interpretation of that image if you look at the HUMOR page on Dans GG web pages: http://www.blazemonger.com/GG/humor/index.html that grimacing Giant face on top of the page was originally below the tongue from ATT when I sent it to Dan several years ago (exploring the capabilities of Adobe Photoshop), but Dan apparently thought it best to delete the tongue from the image...a matter of taste (tee hee) I suppose. If anybody wants a copy of the original, I'll be glad to send it to you. - ----- There was a thread a couple of weeks ago about "sudden realizations" of what some lyrics were or some title meant, I believe, or misinterpretations. Well, I have had a full Henry Cow collection on Vinyl for, it must be 20 years or so now, and I never caught the joke until I was looking at CDs for sale at Progday...I always thought the one album was "Legend" and suddenly I saw, on the CD binder, that big space making the title "Leg end". Now I understand the sock motif soooo much better. We see what we want to see. - ----- My Dad never got Herb Alperts "Whipped Cream" album...the only thing he had for me to drool over were old National Geographics and a program he brought home from his visit to the Follies Bergere in Paris. I do recall once, though, when we were both looking at a magazine and an ad displayed a lady's naked back he quickly turned the page and said "Darn. I was hoping they would show other side on the next page." A real bonding moment between father and son. His musical tastes were strictly classical...but his ability to enjoy music was severely hampered after an unfortunate reaction to penicilin rendered him 80% deaf, and hearing aids can never restore full fidelity, folks. Toby nw: my nifty new GORGG-T np: nuttin...at work...damn it's quiet when everyone else leaves! @work I'm trott@sas.com, whilst @home I transform into tjtrott@mindspring.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...world's a stage...play their parts...I have chosen synapse-ontuer misfire-ador. (well, maybe not chosen, although the behavior it results from was voluntary) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:07:39 -0400 From: "drj_saro" Subject: Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers >Roxy Music promised on their Champagne and Novocaine album they would feature >cheezecake on subsequent releases, and they kept their word.. what Roxy Music album are you calling "champagne & novocaine"? (which is actually the title of a Kevin Ayers song!) thank you for your time and attention. Julius J. SAROKA drj_saro@neo.rr.com Cuyahoga Falls OHIO ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:35:20 -0400 From: "David and Stacey Shur" Subject: gg: Tangerine Dream Jonathan Roberts wrote: > I walked straight to a record > shop and bought . I remember that album. The vinyl was so scratchy, that it ruined the quiet mellotron parts. I liked the drawings on the cover better. T Dream got better in the mid to late 80's, but then I got bored with them. Should I revisit???? -David Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:43:17 -0400 From: "David and Stacey Shur" Subject: gg: Get ready to pour my first drink... David Eric wrote > >So, are we going to do a thread on "wicked covers?" I've got a picture disc > >single from 1979 by 2 English girls called Blonde on Blonde, who posed > >topless. Rich Hilton wrote > If you show up with this at GORGG, I'm buying your first drink. David Eric wrote It's already by the front door, waiting..........(The A side of the vinyl is Whole Lotta Love, done disco style....) > Best, > Rich > > > Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc. > http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:43:01 -0400 From: "drj_saro" Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS the translation that was recommended (Diana Burgin & Katherine Tiernan O'Connor) is listed as OOP at Amazon.com, but i found it at Barnes & Noble (bn.com)! btw. does anyone out there know of any other "interesting" on-line booksellers? i have a long list of CD-vendors, but only those two for books. thank you for your time and attention. Julius J. SAROKA drj_saro@neo.rr.com Cuyahoga Falls OHIO - -----Original Message----- From: Lindsey Spratt To: On Reflection ; David J. Loftus Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:43 AM Subject: Re: gg: no GG - BOOKS >On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 10:12 AM, David J. Loftus >wrote: >> Avoid the Michael Glenny translation; the Mirra Ginsburg is okay. But >> > >Wouldn't you know, I have the Glenny translation. Maybe that's why the book >didn't really grab me. > >-lindsey > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:31:11 -0400 From: "Jerry McCarthy" Subject: gg: O-R, HTM, Roman numerals Thanks for the well-formed responses to my annual on-topic post (re: rearranging O-R). Most interesting reading. Look forward to my next GG post, which should surface sometime next summer. :-) Claudio wrote, re: my Happy The Man remasters question: > Well, I have only the vinyl, but Wayside states: "Previously available only > as pricey Japanese imports, the sound has been reworked for improved > listening." So I'm sure they'll be very nice (and @$10, a mega-bargain!) but > it's been my experience that one just can't compete w/the Japanese on these > things... Actually, I already have the Japanese versions myself, so I was really hoping to hear from someone who has heard both. But thanks for trying to help, Claudio. > For all you Roman Numeral fans, it's my understanding that you can use the > "I" in front of the X, V, L or C but not the D or the M. Where the hell is Vanna White when you need her? - --Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:33:44 +0200 From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze) Subject: gg: King Crimson concert Hi, everyone, I've been trying to download the KC concert from their website. I also downloaded the Microsoft Media Player, but was always informed it was the wrong one. Which one do I have to download? Or is there a trick? Send info soon, so I can get it. Thanks a million! Carsten the Krautmeister ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:45:44 -0400 From: Richard Hilton Subject: gg: Zappa's live thing At 12:35 PM -0700 9/23/99, Doug "Subotnik" Johnson wrote: >This reminds me of the way FZ used to do his thing. >(G)He would tour with new tunes and 'work the bugs out of them'...then he'd >(D)go into the studio and record the album. At least that's what I've heard. Well, I think he did that, yes. But mostly, since the late 70s at least, what he'd do was record every concert (not all of 'em at the beginning, all of 'em by the early 80s) and use the live performed basic tracks as the cake upon which he'd heap his overdub frosting. I think Roxy and Elsewhere may have been the first one he did like this, certainly Sheik Yerbouti was done almost entirely this way, but most of 'em after that we done that way. Amazingly, on the studio version of "Inca Roads" from "One Size Fits All", he used a studio recording of the basic song track, and then cut to a live performance for the guitar solo, then back to the studio for the end. This was even more drastic than what he did later, which was to inter-cut between different live performances of the same piece, sometimes 20+ years apart. There's a version of "King Kong" on "You Can't Do That Onstage Anymore" somewhere that has 3 or 4 different bands playing along the way. Best to ya, Rich Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc. http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:04:17 -0700 From: Nicholas Haus Subject: gg: strange movie juxtaposition & AtT cover Hail! Diana wrote: > Reminds me of the triple bill we did in my old film society: Dali & > Bunuel's Andalusian Dog, followed by the Ozzie and Harriet in the > Adventure of The Missing Sandwich, followed by the Schizoid Man episode > of The Prisoner. A marvelous little combination of "Great", "Cool", and > "Huh?" in one sitting! > Hmmm...I'm suddenly hungry for a sauerkraut & jelly sandwich! ;-) Again DG sez: > that was sort of the point. According to an interview reprinted in Proclamation, > they were making a statement with the cover concerning the necessity of kissing > the arses of record company execs: you "acquire a taste" for it, supposedly. They > were just thumbing their noses at the executroids, as it were. > This came thru loud & clear for me too. Cheers, Nick in Fresno ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:08:52 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: Cyberslag; movies; executroids; Flash >http://cyberslag.bossina.nl/eddie.html What a kick in the ass! I loved it. >Reminds me of the triple bill we did in my old film society: Dali & Bunuel's Andalusian Dog, followed by the Ozzie and Harriet in the Adventure of The Missing Sandwich, followed by the Schizoid Man episode of The Prisoner. I want to come over to your house and watch movies. >They were just thumbing their noses at the executroids, as it were. Vvvt. And now, how ironic: They are one. ;) >the first Flash and of course Flash "In the Can"! Of course, the photo for the first one (of the young lady's can) should have been used for the second release, and vice versa. - S. np: Bruford live in 1980 scottst@ohsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:38:18 PDT From: "Dan Weese" Subject: gg: Re: Roxy >what Roxy Music album are you calling "champagne & novocaine"? > (which is actually the title of a Kevin Ayers song!) I think it's actually a boot, with some great notes. Roxy Music : Champagne And Novocaine 1972/73 US : TAKRL 1953 http://www.pipeline.com/~decophile/'70`s.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:41:33 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: Re: nongg: Passport In a message dated 9/23/99 3:13:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, fredro@worldonline.nl writes: << The albums I own are: Passport: Iquaçu (1977), >> <> Man! Go and find EVERYTHING released before Iguacu. I'm tellin ya, this is when they started to go downhill. Find the GOOD STUFF!!! "Doldinger", "Hand Made", "Looking Thru"...you'll be glad you did! Dan666 n.d. Pete's Summer Brew (the last of it) n.p. Seventh Wave "Things To Come" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:52:57 PDT From: "Dan Weese" Subject: Re: gg: Tangerine Dream >T Dream got better in the mid to late 80's, but then I got bored with them. > Should I revisit???? They entered a William Blake phase, which didn't sound good to me. I like Optical Race, I saw that tour, very good, touring with Andy Summers opening. Atari sponsored them, I was using the early versions of Digidesign MIDI software so I was really cranked to see three ST's on stage. TD really is ambient music at its best, I like it when I'm working. I turned my father onto TD in the late 70's, he likes everything they do. Edgar Froese has put his son, and some fuzz guitar into the mix, which I don't like, weak chord progressions, he never was much of a composer, the atmospherics were what I loved. I like all the early stuff, and my brother and I play Stratosfear for our children around Halloween to scare the wits out of them. Our wives hate it, the kids go bananas. n.p. The Blue Nile, Peace at Last ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:56:23 EDT From: Claudio666@aol.com Subject: gg: Nick's T-shirt Got mine in the mail today! Nick, this is stunning, and my favorite color, basic black! Even though I am unable to attend this magnificent event, I will be there in spirit(s). Thanks Nick! Eggsalad job! Dan 12/2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:33:57 EDT From: Biffyshrew@aol.com Subject: gg: Caput Ludi David Loftus wrote: >I was a little put off by the cover to Foreigner's _Head Games_, too, with >its rather poor and obvious pun and a photo of a young woman who clearly >looks trapped and none too happy to be there, which to me suggested >rape. The way I remember that cover, the girl was looking nervously over her shoulder as she wiped something off the toilet wall--presumably some graffiti along the lines of "For a good time call..." followed by her phone number. Never having *really* looked at it, maybe I got the wrong idea. *** According to Cecil Adams, who knows *everything*: "There is not now nor has there ever been any universally accepted method for styling Roman numerals. For that matter, it's only been in the last few hundred years that there's been any general agreement on what symbols stand for which quantities. ... [T]he subtractive system was used only sporadically by the ancient Romans and their medieval successors and never in a systematic way. Comb through old documents and inscriptions and you'll find such erratic usages as LXL, 90; XXCIII, 83; LXXIIX, 78; and even IIIIX, 6." Your pal, Biffy the Elephant Shrew (bongo jazz a speciality) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:33:01 EDT From: PKANE69@aol.com Subject: Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers Lets not forget the Black Crows CD titled Amorica that features an extreme close up of a stars n stripe bikini frontal of a pre waxed brunette! BTW.... The Black Crows are playing 2 dates in the Roseland here in NYC on October 12 &13. The guest guitarist is none other than Jimmy Page. He fellow Zeppelin dude, Bass man John Paul Jones will tear up the joint @ Irving Plaza on the 16th of October. An unLEDED week landing in the big apple. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:50:17 -0700 (PDT) From: JohnEric Subject: gg: "The Fragile" I don't know if any of you enjoy Nine Inch Nails or not, but, if so I noticed that Rezner has a new double CD release out entitled "The Fragile". I don't have it as yet, and frankly I think I'll gather a few reviews and try to listen to some of it before buying. I feel as though he's lost something since "Broken" and "Fixed". If anyone has heard the new one I'd appreciate a review. JohnEric ===== http://www.mindspring.com/~jjellison/nightsky.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:57:28 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: Re: Dis Gus Thing Al Bottom Covers (or Man, that STINX!) Daniel G wrote: >The grossest(!!!) album cover I've ever seen...was by a quebecois singer >Plume...'Les vieux show son sale'...Now that was a mean cover... One word: "Levidity" (their latest) This cover is/was so disgusting the company that sent it in for CD duping was denied by more than one duping house to do the work. I won't bother describing the cover and I don't suggest purchasing it for any reason. Let's just say, "Open wide..." and "...tish, tish, tish." The music sux, but they are getting very popular in Europe. Their lyrix match the... ...'music.' DJ DJ/CiViLiAN/le Uncroyable M. Personne Please visit my website and check out some of the soundfiles, etc. at: http://www.raconteurprod.com/ "Everything is dangerous if you look at it with enough paranoia." Jack Frost (aka Dr. Tamaran) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:13:50 -0400 (EDT) From: mammienun@webtv.net Subject: gg: Bawdy numerals... Boy, those Romans really knew how to screw things up! Speaking of bawdy...anyone see Action, the new series on FOX? Buddy Hackett (no relation) cracks me up. Believe it or not...I don't watch much TV...not since they took the Jeffersons off the air. But this show is quite entertaining (some of you would probably consider it quite offensive). Enjoy your evening...TGIF...mammbo. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:16:59 -0400 From: Daniel Potvin Subject: gg: RE: No GG: Movin' to Montana Soon Jim Klocek [SMTP:jimklo@megsinet.net] <> "Yes, I am." Just to raise me up a crop of dental floss- raisin it up- waxen it down in a little white box - i can sell uptown. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:22:20 -0400 From: Daniel Potvin Subject: gg: GG after.... Nothing is better than a great GG album after a hard working day ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:35:59 -0700 From: William Tindall Subject: gg: RE: Bawdy numerals... I surprised myself by loving this show. Three thumbs up (you know I'm different) from this jaded viewer. Much fun. Bill T - -----Original Message----- From: mammienun@webtv.net Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:14 PM To: on-reflection@lists.uoregon.edu Subject: gg: Bawdy numerals... Boy, those Romans really knew how to screw things up! Speaking of bawdy...anyone see Action, the new series on FOX? Buddy Hackett (no relation) cracks me up. Believe it or not...I don't watch much TV...not since they took the Jeffersons off the air. But this show is quite entertaining (some of you would probably consider it quite offensive). Enjoy your evening...TGIF...mammbo. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: mammienun@webtv.net Subject: gg: Montana... With a pair of heavy duty ZIRCON encrusted tweezers in my hand...every other wrangler would say I was mighty grand! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:41:01 -0400 (EDT) From: mammienun@webtv.net Subject: gg: Montana... With a pair of heavy duty ZIRCON encrusted tweezers in my hand...every other wrangler would say I was mighty grand! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:03:37 -0400 From: Bert Rubini Subject: gg: Redding / Kottke > >Bottom line, Noel Redding believed that Jimi Hendrix should have been working for him! > > If I had dropped that much acid I might have been equally insane. > Well, it didn't work for me, but I think Frank Marino managed it. > How come nobody here ever raves about Leo Kotke? Doesn't he > rate as a talented > guitar player as much as a lot of folks that get raved about > here? Not that I'm a > really big Kotke fan, but I have enjoyed his music, and he > seems to have the chops. Somehow, I missed this guy for years. I had never even heard of him, to the best of my recollection, until about a year ago when a friend took me to see him in concert. Isn't it great to be unexpectedly blown away by a concert? (Doesn't happen much anymore, tho). bert - -- My homepage - slightly more interesting than watching grass grow: http://www.hcc.cc.fl.us/services/faculty/bertrubini/home.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Tillman Subject: Re: gg: RE: No GG: Movin' to Montana Soon From: Daniel Potvin Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:16:59 -0400 Jim Klocek [SMTP:jimklo@megsinet.net] <> "Yes, I am." Just to raise me up a crop of dental floss- raisin it up- waxen it down in a little white box - i can sell uptown. Guys, cut it out. I feel like I'm in a freakin' GAP ad. [Joke explanation: There's a series of GAP clothing advertisements in heavy rotation right now on American tv, each is a long pan of a few dozen hip young folks in GAP clothes, each looking pretty tripped out and singing a line to "Mellow Yellow" or some such tune.] Of course a GAP ad featuring "Advent of Panurge" would be a real mindblower, eh? -- Don ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:50:18 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: Re: nongg: Passport ><< The albums I own are: > Passport: Iquaçu (1977), >> ><> > >Man! Go and find EVERYTHING released before Iguacu. I'm tellin ya, this is >when they started to go downhill. Find the GOOD STUFF!!! "Doldinger", >"Hand Made", "Looking Thru"...you'll be glad you did! OK! I'll check those out. Strangely enough I obviously never picked Doldinger up before 'Iquaçu'. I guess I was too caught up in other artists. And, hell, there was a lot of good stuff around!!! (And being a highschoolkid on a small allowance, I had to make choices in what records to buy, what concerts to see, what guitars and stuff to buy etc etc. So the early Doldinger became a victim of my priorities) :-) >n.p. Seventh Wave "Things To Come" Good to see this one mentioned here. I love the album. It's atmosphere always makes me happy/sad. I also have their 2nd, 'Psi Fi' featuring Hugh Banton, but didn't like it. Then. I must try that album again. Maybe I overheard it's qualities. Cheers, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:14:38 EDT From: SPBrader@aol.com Subject: gg: No GG : Seventh Wave Fred wrote: << >n.p. Seventh Wave "Things To Come" Good to see this one mentioned here. I love the album. It's atmosphere always makes me happy/sad. I also have their 2nd, 'Psi Fi' featuring Hugh Banton, but didn't like it. Then. I must try that album again. Maybe I overheard it's qualities. >> I agree with both sentiments. 'Things to Come' is a 'prog-lite' that actually works. Great atmosphere as Fred says. 'Psi--Fi' is a real hotch-potch though. I don't like it at all. FYI, they have/are about to be released on CD as a 2fer. Simon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:17:46 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: Re: gg: bawdy bawdy bawdy >The CBS promo, as Fred describes it, does not sound bawdy to me, as in >"appreciating and enjoying the pleasures of the body among consenting >adults," but rather makes a snide possible reference to pedophilia. I thought 'bawdy' had a more negative meaning. More in the sense of 'disgusting'. My dictionary says "Bawdy: obscene; unchaste". Cheers, Fred np Gidon Kremer - Astor Piazzolla/El Tango ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:35:23 +0200 From: "Frank B. Carvalho" Subject: Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0667.BE41AE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >that was sort of the point. According to an interview reprinted in Proclamation, >they were making a statement with the cover concerning the necessity of kissing >the arses of record company execs: you "acquire a taste" for it, supposedly. They >were just thumbing their noses at the executroids, as it were. Ironic that one of them should become an executroid himself. If you can't beat them, join them! Cheers Frank Carvalho - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0667.BE41AE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers

>that was sort of the point. According to an interview reprinted in Proclamation,
>they were making a statement with the cover concerning the necessity of kissing
>the arses of record company execs: you "acquire a taste" for it, supposedly. They
>were just thumbing their noses at the executroids, as it were.

Ironic that one of them should become an executroid himself.
If you can't beat them, join them!

Cheers

Frank Carvalho

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF0667.BE41AE10-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:25:50 +0100 From: "Fred Rosenkamp" Subject: Re: gg: Steve 50; Hendrix as the other guitarist; KC Mx; later Passport; I Got Stripes >>Passport: Iquaçu (1977), > >good but they were on the way down > >>Ataraxia (1978, released in the US as 'Sky Blue'), Oceanliner (1980), Blue >Tattoo (1981). Klaus Doldinger + Passport: Lifelike (1980, contains live >material from '77 and '80). > >Are any of these worth getting at all? I was distressed when I heard a >post-Iguacu release - it sounded like Fusak. Some of the Iguacu cuts sound >like that too Well, I agree, non of this stuff is really too exciting. Enjoyable yes, but not exciting. You may even call it Fusak, though it comes without the Kenny G vaseline (Vaselusion?). If I had to buy these albums again, I'd probably only get Ataraxia. Cheers, Fred ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jesús" Tapia Subject: Re: gg: 1967-1968 I don't know if the list had discussed before some similarities between Kerry Minnear and Rod Argent in their organ sound. I'm referring specifically to two songs: 1) Playing the Game has an organ solo that resembles a lot the organ solo in Time of the Season. I noticed some years back that the sound of the organ (and also some of the rhythms) were very similar. I'm not saying that Kerry went too close to Argent, but I always thought about it. - --- David and Stacey Shur wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diana Green > > Argent had a number of very interesting and > worthwhile albums.... > > I'm still a big fan of Rod Argent's prior band The > Zombies, who recorded a > great album in 1967 called Odyssey and Oracle. I > don't think it was > released until 1968, and I didn't hear it until > 1971, but it stands as a > great reminder of The Summer of Love. Another great > 1967 album was the > first one by Fat Mattress, who featured pre-Hendrix > Noel Redding on guitar. > In fact, Fat Mattress opened for Hendrix at one > point, with Redding playing > guitar in his group, and then switching to bass for > The Experience. Any one > else have any great memories (or favorite albums) > from that period of time? > Disreali Gears and Wheels of Fire by Cream are 2 > more favorites, along with > Bee Gee's Odessa. -David Eric > > ===== Best Regards, Jesús Tapia __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:36:19 -0700 From: "Frank Lauria" Subject: gg: NoGG: Is that a Sears poncho? From: Don Tillman "Guys, cut it out. I feel like I'm in a freakin' GAP ad." If the GAP used Zappa's music for their ad beds I might start shopping there. P-Frank ------------------------------ End of on-reflection-digest V1 #1879 ************************************