AGENDA
OrchidSafari Society Meeting 
November 10, 1999
TTR, Wed 8:00 pm CST
 
ROLL CALL
 7:55 - 8:05 p.m. (Central) 
(During this 10-minute period each person present simply post  "present". 
 
ANNOUNCEMENTS: marylois and from the floor
 
TREASURERS REPORT: Barbara Tague
TOPIC: Marilyn Light
 
Products that can help your orchids to grow..and grow... and grow!
 
 New technologies make it possible for us to grow orchids healthier and  more vigorous than before.
 
 New to the market is the innovative  Intelligent Plant Light TM. This well  designed planter comes complete with an adjustable seasonal light timer, a  telescopic lighting arm adjustable to 7-14 inches above the tray, a 9 watt  wide spectrum flourescent tube, a soil moisture sensor and a water-holding  tray. This set-up is ideal for one or several small plants on a desk or in  the living room. Phals love the TLC this set up provides.
 
 
Upgrading your lighting system? Move the heavier electrical components such as the ballast to a separate location and connect the lightweight  bulb and reflector to that box by a heavy duty power cord. This means that  you can hang the lightweight apparatus from standard ceiling hooks. The heat-producing noisy ballast is conveniently located elsewhere.
 
The next generation of grow lights are metal halides where a blend of  different metals in the halide arc tubes provides more useable light  energy. Spectrum enhanced metal halide bulbs provide red light too.
 
Spectrum enhanced sodium bulbs feature an increase in the blue part of the visible spectrum.
 
Looking for new potting media? Leca clay pellets are porous, pH neutral  brown clay pellets perfect for hydroculture and great for potting many different orchids. They come in a variety of sizes too!
 
Cocopeat is the corky bast tissue found between the fibres of coconut  husks. It holds both water and air, resists compaction and s great for  Oncidium alliance culture.  Be sure to leach the wetted peat by soaking in  fresh water to reduce possible salt contamination.
 
 
For the ultimate in orchid medium, why not play with air! Aeroponics is a system where plant roots are suspended in air within a closed trough and  periodically misted with a nutrient solution. Look for this demonstrated  at the Epcot Center. Sounds just the thing for Vandas!
 
Any other product ideas will be welcomed during this discussion.
 
SHOW TABLE
Chair:  Marilyn Light
 
CATTLEYA ALLIANCE 
 
1. Cattleya (C.) walkeriana 
2. C. intermedia
3. C. Carl Hausermann
 
4. Laeliocattleya (Lc.) Mini Purple 
5. C. Vickie Andrews 
6. Broughtonia sanguinea 
 
ONCIDIUM ALLIANCE
 
7. Miltoniopsis (Milt.)
8. Odontoglossum (Odm.) crispum
9. Oncidium (Onc.) Sharry Baby
PAPHIOPEDILUM/PHRAGMIPEDIUM GROUP
 
10. Paphiopedilum (Paph.) Vacuna
11. Paph. spicerianum
 MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY
  
 12. Vanda (V.) Rothschildiana 
 13. Catasetum (Cstm.) cernuum
 
 14. Dendrobium (Den.) gracilis 
 SHOW TABLE JUDGING 
We have selected a few of the many images submitted. We choose images that  portrayed growing plants with flowers. Some very good images were not  selected because they featured only the flower(s). We needed to see  foliage too. As we are looking for signs of good culture, we will be  examining the plant appearance, flower number and quality but not of the  quality of the photography or the scanning technique. The owner's name  will not be disclosed unless they wish it. Don't be shy *S* 
 
Plant health and vigor affects flower quality and so the better a plant  has been grown, the better the flowers should be given the capabilities of a plant. Strong, well-grown plants will be awarded up to 40% of possible  points. Flower quality including number of flowers and infloresences will  be awarded up to 60% of the point total. 
 
A ribbon will be awarded in each Alliance/Group and an overall show table winner will be selected by the participants. Be prepared for a virtually  terrific showtable !!
DISCUSSION ABOUT FUTURE MEETINGS
 
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MINUTES OF MEETING
OrchidSafari First Virtual Orchid Meeting
Moderator:  Marilyn Light
Wednesday, November 10, 1999
Present were 31:
 
Knisbett (Karen - central MO)
           
whapy_in_Biggin_Hil
 
janetteh  (Mayberry Country NC)
           
Harold (Dallas TX)
             
Gail_(From_Boca_Raton FL)
 
Carol_Holdren (Boca Raton FL)
      
Butch_n_Florida
     
10birch_Paul,_Saginaw MI
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Steve_in_the_Adirondacks, NY
 
MarilyninOttawa
     
Sharon_in_Indiana
   
James_in_Fresno
     
Charlotte_in_Calif 
 
Barbara,_N._CA 
     
Kathy_in_N_Calif
    
marylois  (northwest Louisiana)
          
Thomas_in_Richmond VA joflo  (Joanne - Owen Sound, Ontario,  Canada)
            
Mary_Lou  (help! where again?)
          
Jade  (Maliwallipids MI)
               
New_User (need name, email, location)
          
UncleEarl (Vacaville CA)
Ellen (Smithtown NY)
Clare in LA  (Arcadia CA)
jim4eq (Miami FL)
nick-page(orchids)and_art
Susan-from-Oregon
Thamina (Manhattan Beach CA)
AHORCHID (Art - Simpsonville SC)
Jose41822 (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
MarilyninOttawa
 
Now that we have a nice group present. Welcome everyone! Lois, do you have any announcements?
 
marylois
 
A big hand for Whapy who got the [OrchidSafari] article going! It's in a major hardcopy British magazine. Whapy says the magazine article reproduction is poor. It's at... looks good to me!
whapy_in_Biggin_Hill,SE_E
 
That Amateur Gardening mag article's dated 2 Oct 99. I am going to try the UK's Orchid Review next.
marylois
Marilyn also reports a sidebar input in 'Canadian Living' which she will send to us when it's printed. Also, Greg Allikas is working up an "Orchids" item on OS - with emphasis on our new virtual orchid meetings and "fun judgings".  I will, of course, add John Yates' sterling effort on our behalf in a recent Orchid Digest issue. *S* 
Also note, there is now a section called "press clippings" on the OS homepage. Please send me all items, including those in the past.
 
 
Only other announcements are in abeyance - having trouble getting AOS Show pix on line at GeoCities...
Paul,_Saginaw,_Mi
 
Lois. Great opener. I hope that it gets others' attention.
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
Yes, whapy's been a great booster for us in the UK! 
TREASURER'S REPORT
MarilyninOttawa
 
You will note from the agenda that we have a TREASURY!! How rich or poor are we?
 
Barbara,_N._CA
  
Ok, We have received as of today, $295.00 I understand that $5 is adding to that and is on it's way. All under my safekeeping.
 
Thomas_in_Richmond,_VA
  
Where did the money come from?
MarilyninOttawa
  
What are our annual expenses on average, Barb?
 
We don't owe any money yet, but very soon. The expenses will be when Lois receive the bill for our website and the others. I collect the money, Lois spends. What a deal! *G*
 
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
 
I'll make mention of the idea of dues, if I may. Dues are completely voluntary. They became needed when we got so big that a free geocities webpage wouldn't hold us anymore. Plus we got a domain name, which costs. Plus there are added incidentals, like badges if/when we have get togethers. So we ask $5, voluntarily, to be sent to Barbara in N Calif. (Whisper her for address) Again, its voluntary, we don't want you to leave if you don't want to pay. But I think you get your $5 worth *G* 
marylois 
 
We will send out the "dues" thing via email (i.e., $5 per person when we need it, never more than once a year)...more about this later...have to buy more webspace...again. *S*  I've not yet started using any of it for that...but will (aprox $10/mo) Now on to the topic with Marilyn Light.
TOPIC: Things Technological that Help Us Grow Super Orchids
MarilyninOttawa
  
As this meeting coincides with one of my conservation-oriented sessions, I thought that I would share with you some new items which can help us grow healthy, happy orchids.
 
Lois and I were speaker's at the Garden Writers Association annual convention in Toronto, in August. Part of the meeting was a trade show featuring products of use to gardeners. One super product is the Intelligent Plant Light which combines a timer, light and moisture sensor in one compact desktop structure. Perfect for a livingroom coffee table which where I have mine located. The one Phal growing as test is doing extremely well. A little green light tells me when to water. This is available in both the US and
Canada at stores like Walmart.
 
If you cannot find locally, you may order from manufacturer:
Glentronics
 
Attn: Alvin Schulman
 
2053 Johns Dr
 
Glenveiw IL 60025-1674
Approx $40 plus shipping - tell him Marilyn Light and marylois sent you!
 
<"http://www.orchidsafari.org/tlclight.jpg"> TLC Plant Light 
as seen at the Shreveport AOS Show, 22-24 Oct 99
Susan-from-Oregon 
 
Sounds great, but by the time we are genuinely interested in light and moisture detection, our collections have far outgrown the little tabletop!
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
  
True, but I might get one to have one plant in the house to enjoy instead of having to go to the greenhouse to see them. And I think that it will be better for theplant than just sitting on a table.
Barbara,_N._CA 
 
That's great, Marilyn. Will that be also usable for the Greenhouse? 
MarilyninOttawa 
 
No, of course the Intelligent Plant Light is not greenhouse sized but it is suitable for a desktop, for the office, or wherever we grow one or a few plants. Great for young phals.
 
 
The Intelligent Plant Light sells for about $50 in Canada which means it is likely in the $30 range stateside.
 
Ellensmithown 
 
Is there something similiar on a larger scale? 
 
[Check out  Stand Up Gardens of New Hampshire at http://www.standupgardens.com...mlg]
AHORCHID 
 
How tall is light, Marilyn?
 
Paul,_Saginaw,_Mi
What are the demensions of the light?
Jose41822 http://www.standupgardens.com 
Aside from Walmart, what other stores in Canada (Ontario) carry this?
MarilyninOttawa
The telescoping stem is adjustable from 7-14 inches high. This allows you to grow very small or larger plants up to 12 in tall. The light is a full spectrum 9-watt fluorescent.
marylois 
I'll post data on the light to the transcript - including a scanned picture. I have one. Nice. Even with GH it's nice to grow  something 
INSIDE.
MarilyninOttawa
 
Another nifty product is the  Garden Pals line of cutting tools. Inexpensive enough to own several for show care.
 
A few months ago we were talking 'critters', namely fire ants. There is a new product being marketed in the southern states which has proven very useful at combatting these dreaded pests. Lois, you were afflicted, I believe. The product is called Fipronil and is a granular formulation. It is specific for fire ants and has not shown a negative effect on other insects such as native ants.
 
AHORCHID 
Is that trade name or chemical name, Marilyn?
 
Charlotte_in_Calif
 
It's a chemical name. I believe it is also the active ingredient in the flea product "Frontline".
MarilyninOttawa
 
At  Ann Mann's Orchids you will find the latest in micro-fogging devices. These are perfect for the greenhouse crowd with a need for both water conservation and timing mechanisms. The ultrafine micro-fog stays in buoyant suspension until it contacts a plant where it forms fine droplets. Use the fogger at 30 minute intervals on hot afternoons. Depending upon the area to be fogged, you wiill use 4-20 gallons per hour of fogging. Fogging episodes last only a minute or so.
 
Susan-from-Oregon
Neat! I'd like to find a (cheap) fogger for a relatively small growing area.
nick-page(orchids)and_art
A speaker was just at the last orchid meeting for us and mentioned something about adding copper to water via electricity so as to prevent fungal growth, would that qualify as new tech?
Charlotte_in_Calif
 
I'd like to hear more about that one.
MarilyninOttawa
 
Small amounts of copper in water are quite toxic to organisms such as algae and other plants. I would not be surprised if there was an effect on fungi although the copper is unlikely to affect spores. Very small amounts of copper ion are required.
 
Barbara,_N._CA
 
Marilyln, have you try or use this Ann Mann's micro-fog system?
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Here is  another site that you might find for a misting system. I have one on my patio for adding humidity there. It can be used under benches in the greenhouse. 
MarilyninOttawa
 
I have not used Ann Mann's system but have successfully used a similar system. Great in summer when there is water restriction.
nick-page(orchids)and_art
 
Would a fogger help my phrags grow better?  I am growing in water trays and having good luck, but the ends of the leavs still split and look dry.
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
Two answers in one. I believe that Fipronil is the trade name. The substance behaves like the flea control product, Siphitrol (sp?) in that it interferes with maturation of the insect. These products must be specific to a particular insect otherwise one would affect many species.
 
Someone asked about where, other than Walmart, the Light could be purchased?    I am not familiar with other American outlets.
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Target might be place and in California, Armstrong's or Home Depot.
Sharon_in_Indiana 
I have found that Walmart's online site has more products than the store here. You can order from them online.
 
Thomas_in_Richmond,_VA 
I tried a search on Walmart's web site as soon as she posted the name, but couldn't find it. Would love to have one.
SHOW TABLE
Chair:  Marilyn Light
MarilyninOttawa
 
The SHOW TABLE is the feature of the meeting. We will look at the Cattleya alliance first, discussing each plant in turn before deciding which is ribbon-worthy!
 
CATTLEYA ALLIANCE
 
1.  Cattleya walkeriana
 
2.  C. intermedia
 
3.  C. Carl Hausermann
  
4.  Laeliocattleya (Lc.) Mini Purple
 
5.  C. Vickie Andrews
  
6.  Broughtonia (Bro) sanguinea
  
Plant 1 is a lovely Cattleya walkeriana. Note that there are 7 flowers on a relatively small plant.
 
Plant 2 is a well flowered Cattleya intermedia
 
Plant 3 was labelled C. Carl Hausermann but the owner realized that this is more probably a Brassocattleya. All the same, we will consider it for culture. Bc's are typically few-flowered.
 
 
Plant 4 Lc. Mini Purple is a primary cross of L. pumila and C. walkeriana.
 
Plant 5 The owner of C. Vickie Andrews rescued it from a miserable existence and was rewarded for her efforts with a great display of blooms.
 
Plant 6 is Broughtonia sanguinea. I asked the owner and am told that there are 3 branched spikes and 12 or more pseudobulbs.
 
Any votes for plants one through 6?
 
Susan-from-Oregon
THAT B. sanguinea makes mine look like a plain Jane!
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
Plant 5 for me. Flowers well formed and abundant like a catt. should be.
 
AHORCHID
 
C. Vickie Andrews
 
Sharon_in_Indiana
 
...and I would love to have a division!!!!
 
Jose41822
 
Is plant 5 C. Vickie Andrews (the white one)? It's my pick.
 
Thamina
 
1st to #5 C. Vickie Andrews, 2nd to Bro. sanguinea, 3rd to Lc. Mini Purple (a very good one).
 
Susan-from-Oregon
 
Whats the pedigree of Vickie Andrews?
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
Each of these plants is doing what the breeding suggests. C. Vickie Andrews is walkeriana, loddegesii, with mossiae and two other species present. Great parentage and a great grower!
 
Jade
 
I liked the #1. I'm partial to C . walkeriana and that one just keeps on blooming.
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
Thamina says it well.
 First prize to C. Vickie Andrews.  Owner:  Janette Harris
Second prize to  Bro. sanguinea.  Owner: Lois Greer
Third prize to  Lc. Mini Purple.  Owner:  Fleur Malcolm
Kathy_in_N_Calif
BTW, the  Mini Purple is in the nice net pot I mentioned on Saturday
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
As to the Mini Purple, I noticed that the upper petals are not as close as I would have wanted in a catt. Is this indicative of these types?
 
Barbara,_N._CA
 
That is a nice looking blue ribbon.
 
janetteh
 
C. Vickie Andrews = C. Princess Bells x Angelwalker. Cross was made by Ed Wright in 1989.
 
Jose41822
Congratulations, Janette, Lois & Fleur. Excellent job.
 
marylois
 
Wish Ed were here to sit that C. Vickie Andrews! Kathy Wright underwent surgery for blocked aorta to leg yesterday - out of recovery, in ICU a couple days. All going as expected. You can send well wishes to orched@texas.net Ed will print and take them to her.
NOTE:  Kathy left the hospital to convalesce at home on the day of this chat!
MarilyninOttawa
 
Congratulations to the winners in the Cattleya Alliance. Now we move on to the Oncidium Alliance 
ONCIDIUM ALLIANCE
 
7. Miltoniopsis (Milt.) (Lynne Waihee x Pearl Ono) = Mary Sugiyama
8. Odontoglossum (Odm.) crispum
 
9.  Oncidium (Onc.) Sharry Baby
Plant 7 is a nice Miltoniopsis with mostly Milt, roezlii in the parentage. It was just recently registered.
 
Plant 8 is a good Odm crispum. Take a look at the pseudobulb size. Bulbs should be always getting larger until they are at their maximum. This is a young plant I imagine.
 
Onc. Sharry Baby is Plant 9 and is a very fragrant hybrid having Onc. leucochilum, ornithorhynchum, altissimum and powellii in the parentage.
 
Paul,_Saginaw,_Mi
 
It is always nice to see clean orchids that appear to be well taken care of
 
nick-page(orchids)and_art
 
Wow, the Oncidium Sharry Baby, is really spectacular, that one gets my vote.
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
How long is that inflorescense on the crispum? That's currently getting my vote.
 
marylois
Very long, for the size plant!
Butch_n_Florida
 
1st-9 2nd-7 3rd-8 
marylois
 
8 - 7 - 9
 
Jose41822 
Sharry Baby, Crispum & Sugiyama, in this order.
 
Thamina
 
I like the crispum best, an alba? The Onc. Sharry Baby is so common and I'd like to see it staked up a bit.
 
AHORCHID
 
Wish picture of crispum was clearer. Vote goes to Sharry Baby
 
 Susan-from-Oregon
Are those unbloomed spikes coming off of Sharry Baby?
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
2nd = Miltoniopsis, 3rd=Odont crispum
 
Steve_in_the_Adirondacks
 
I vote for the O. crispum
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
#7 comes in second. Has a perky face and Robert in Mississippi says I can't award for perkiness.
 
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
1=crispum, 2=Sharry Baby, 3=Milt. Nice catagory, everyone walks away with a ribbon!
 
janetteh
  
I like #7. Is always hard to grow those plants without the flowers curving backwards. I admire anyone who can get the flowers out flat like that. Good culture!
 
Susan-from-Oregon
Odm crispum, Onc Sharry Baby, M. Mary Sugiyama!
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Sharry Baby may be common but it is not all that easy to bloom well. The number of flowers is outstanding but staking would have helped the presentation.
Paul,_Saginaw,_Mi
 
If you like perkiness, vote for it.
marylois
Yes you can - it's called "vigor" - and the perky ones are the healthy ones.
jim4eq
 
My vote would be 8-7-9. If I was show judging, would have to count off on Sharry Baby for the wild child spikes, should have been staked.
 
Susan-from-Oregon
 
I give Odm. crispum first because of huge spike for size of plant.
 
marylois
 
You've got a real spread here, Marilyn *G*
 
Thamina
 
I have several of the regular kind, just purchased a pastel version and I have seen an alba (pale yellows) at Norman's Orchids, a mutation from cloning.
Steve_in_the_Adirondacks
 
Yes, I was just thinking she'll need a calculator for this one.
MarilyninOttawa
 
Obviously each of the plants has merit. Some of you have quite rightly pointed out the spike habit of the Sharry Baby but it is a very well grown plant. I would probably cast my vote for Plant 9 as 1st place.
 
marylois
 
Marilyn, do you think that small crispum will survive the blooming? *G*
 [Specialist growers advise removal of first spikes. ML]
MarilyninOttawa
 
My vote for second prize is plant 8 Odm crispum. The reason why I select this over the plant 7 is because the Milt. simply does not carry sufficient flowers for the plant size.
 
Calculator aside, I see Onc. Sharry Baby as having first prize (SharoninIndiana)  Second prize goes to Odm crispum (Fleur) 
Third goes to Milt. Mary Sugiyama (Ron Bott)
Barbara,_N._CA
 
Most  Milt. that size, will have 3 or 4 spikes
Thamina
 
I'm from the Seattle area originally. Was in local orchid society in the '60s with Gordon Hoyt. Miltonias were florist pot plants there( like phalys now).
MarilyninOttawa 
Congratualtions to the proud growers! Clap clap clap 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA 
Seconded!!!
Clare_in_Acadia
Way to go, Sharon! Congrats
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
LOVE those ribbons, been trying to decide if they are a computer mock up, or if he made them for real.
 
marylois
 
Unanimous.
 
Think he [sparkysteve] scanned - maybe? Wonder what he'll say when I ask him to reduce the size, affix the appropriate plant with plant name, cross, and exhibitor's name? *giggle*
Barbara,_N._CA
 
Good growing, Sharon, Fleur and Ron.
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
The next group to consider (there are only two entries) is 
PAPHIOPEDILUM/PHRAGMIPEDIUM GROUP
 
10. Paphiopedilum (Paph.) Vacuna
11. Paph. spicerianum
The Paph. Vacuna is an old cross made first by Veitch in 1898! It is rothschildianum x villosum and the result is interesting. Note the many large flowers.
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
Both paphs are very nice and obviously well grown. It is very difficult to choose here. That is a rothchildiana cross? It really is nicer than I thought then.
joflo
 
11 - 10 -That is a beautiful spicerianum
 
Earl_in_Vacaville,_CA 
The spicerianum for me.
 
Butch_n_Florida
 
1st-10 2nd-11
 
AHORCHID
 
Hard to judge from these pictures. One is a close up the other a long range shot. I'll call it a draw.
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
What a toss up. Both well grown, I think. But #11, is really dramatic. I like the way the sepal curves in with the red (?) vein. And that deep labellum is to die for.
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
My choices are Paph. Vacuna =1, spicerianum = 2 although spicerianum is one of my most favorite species.
 
Susan-from-Oregon
 
I abstain. Can't decide!
 
Thamina
 
Ditto
Sharon_in_Indiana
My vote is for 11, 10
janetteh 
I agree. Paph Vacuna =1, spicerianum = 2
 
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
I choose the Vacuna, then the spicer
 
Thomas_in_Richmond,_VA
 
Marilyn: About how long do paph blooms last?
MarilyninOttawa 
Given the capabilities of both the cross and the species, I tend to go with the Paph. Vacuna which of course is favoring the villosum parent
 
nick-page(orchids)and_art
 
Mine was in bloom for ver a month and a half
Charlotte_in_Calif
 
#11 P. spicerianum for me.
 
Kathy_in_N_Calif
 
I like the fact the Vacuna has no burn marks or brown tips on the leaves!  Am I being too self revealing????
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
If a Paph is being well grown, has a good rooting system and is therefore able to absorb water easily over the blooming period then blooms should last a month or two. Much depends upon the kind whether species or hybrid and the growing conditions. Lighter substance Paphs are not as long lasting I find as compared to the hard plastic complex Paphs. The latter can last up to 3 months under good conditions.
 
Steve_in_the_Adirondacks
 
I like them both! I vote for the Vacuna though; in part because I can see the whole plant and it all looks good.
 
nick-page(orchids)and_art 
The Paph. Vacuna, is mine and was in good bloom for a month and a half, the flowers are heavy textured, and of good substance.
 
Jade
 
Those hard plastic complex Paphs last so long I had to dust the flowers. Hard to believe they weren't plastic!
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
I think that we can offer two firsts in this category if that is alright with you. Congratulations to Nick Pope (Paph. Vacuna) and to Stephenm (Sparky) for Paph spicerianum 
marylois
 
Good call.
 
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
Good move, Marilyn! Both are wonderful plants!
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
A Good Call. Both are great
 
MarilyninOttawa 
Let's move on to the last categories, Vandaceous and Miscellaneous. I am combining them for expediency.
VANDACEOUS 
12. Vanda (V.) Rothschildiana
MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY
 
13. Catasetum (Cstm.) cernuum
 
14. Dendrobium (Den.) gracilis
We will judge between these three. The Vanda is a primary cross of V. sanderiana and coerulea. The Cstm is a very good specimen vying for flower count with some awarded plants. No flower dimensions available for comparison though. The Dendrobium is a very well flowered species seldom seen by many of us.
 
Butch_in_Gainesville
1st-13 2nd-14 3rd-12
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
That catasetum is fantastic!!! My vote: #1=13, #2= 14, #3= 12
Sharon_in_Indiana
 
Order: 13, 14, 12
 
AHORCID
don't know a thing about any of them. but my vote is 13,12,14 good root system on vanda
 
marylois
13 - 14 - 12 Talk about FLAIR! *G*
Susan-from-Oregon
 
Catasetum gets my nod for 1st
 
janetteh
 
Each is a winner in its own right.
 
Charlotte_in_Calif 
 
I vote for the Vanda, but mostly because I can see it more clearly than the others.
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
13, 14 then 12.I'd like to have had a flash on 13.
 
Steve_in_the_Adirondacks
 
13-14-12 for me too. (Looks like no calculator needed on this one)
Jade
 
I agree, Catasetum # 1, Vanda #2 because of quality of roots and plant. I couldn't see the Den that well so it lost out to the other two.
Thamina
  
Does Catasetum have male and female flowers separately? If so are these male or female?
 
janetteh
 
These are male
Sharon_in_Indiana
 
They are all wonderful! What a pleasure to get to see what others are growing... and growing so well.
 
marylois
 
The REAL purpose of a plant table, Sharon.
nick-page(orchids)and_art
 
ditto, I love the variety of all the different types of flowers
MarilyninOttawa 
Congratulations to the winners! 
First to Barb for Cstm cernuum
Second prize to Agnes Williams for Den. gracilis
Third prize to Agnes Williams for V. Rothschildiana
AHORCHID
Congratulations Barb and Agnes
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Congratulations to Barbara and Agnes. What wonderful plants!! 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
A West Coast winner. Good for you, Barbara!
 
Jade
 
Congrats to both. They were all great plants and so well grown!
 
Barbara,_N._CA
 
Thanks, now I can tell, that Cstm had 4 spikes and total 100 flowers. here is a close up pix,. if I may show you.
Charlotte_in_Calif
Barb, that last picture really shows off those flowers. They are beautiful!!
Kathy_in_N_Calif 
Good work, Barbara And Agnes is from Australia, too bad she's not here!
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
At the Ottawa Orchid Society meetings, we now pick a best of show table from the 1st prize winners. This would therefore be between C. Vickie Andrews, Onc. Sharry Baby, Paph. Vacuna, Paph. spicerianum and Cstm. cernuum. Votes please.
 
Charlotte_in_Calif
 
I vote for C. Vickie Andrews.
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
Cstm cernuum is my vote for Best of Show table
 
Butch_in_Gainesville,_Fl
 
My BOS vote - Onc. Sherry Baby
 
Clare_in_Arcadia 
Well the bias now shows. C. Vickie Andrews. I just love angelwalkers.
 
AHORCHID
 
c. Vickie Andrews, cstm., Sharry Baby
 
jim4eq
 
C. Vickie Andrews
 
Thamina
 
Barbara, Have you ever taken it for AOS judging? This goes for all the winners.
marylois
 
C. Vickie Andrews for me
 
Susan-from-Oregon
 
First- Catasetum. Second -Catt.Vickie Andrews
Earl_in_Vacaville,_CA
Overall pick would be the Catasetum for me.
 
Clare_in_Arcadia
 
Do the judges get to divide up the winners?
 
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
 
GREAT IDEA, CLARE!!!!
MarilyninOttawa
 
I want to share some of the C. Vickie Andrews story with you. "I bought it at an auction in March 98 for $9. ...The plant was in bad shape...a lot of leaves missing, some burned and dehydrated..I brought it home and..." It now has 32 blooms which is a real accomplishment for the grower.
 
My vote is for this entry (Janette Harris).  Congratulations to the overall SHOWTABLE WINNER
Barbara,_N._CA
Charlotte, I bought that one at our auction last year, didn't expect to have that many spikes, also that many flowers.
John_in_Arcadia,_CA
What a success story and a wonderful example of VERY good growing!!  Congratulations Janette!
janetteh 
Thanks to all of you for the compliments. Wish that Ed could have been here tonight. I have corresponded with him about the plant and he is quite proud of the cross. It was mericloned at one time but I don't know how readily available it is now.
 
MarilyninOttawa
 
Thank you everyone for your wonderful participation and support. We could not use all the photos submitted but if and when we do this again please submit more. We need whole plants visible if possible. Closeups are great for later discussion. Thank you to Lois for helping arrange the meeting.  Another first for OrchidSafari!
 
Barbara,_N._CA
 
Congrats to Janette, what a wonderful rescue job.
 
Butch_in_Gainesville,_Fl 
Have any of you seen  this page? Interesting.
[Another good encylopaedia-type page
...mlg]
 
MarilyninOttawa
Have an enjoyable Vets Day. Bye bye all or "Bon Nuit"
 
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FIRST PLACE CATTLEYA ALLIANCE AND BEST GROWN
  
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FIRST PLACE ONCIDIUM ALLIANCE
  
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FIRST PLACE PAPHIOPEDILUM/PHRAGMIPEDIUM GROUP - 2 WINNERS!
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FIRST PLACE MISCELLANEOUS GROUP
 
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