Born June 6, 1950
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Date: Fri, Dec 10, 1999, 9:51pm
Subject: Nothing New at the Vineyard
I think you will find this article very interesting.
It was very hard to find it as they changed the www address.
The man (Lonnie Frisbee) he was the one that came to my church,
"King's Chapel" and started the kids on the vineyard stuff.
He was famous in Calvary Chapel circles and the Shepherding Movement and the Jesus People Movement. He is considered an Icon.
Lonnie Frisbee single handedly baptised and got
people saved by the thousands, he made Calvary Chapel and
Vineyard what it is today. He died of aids. I have a lot of
research info. on him and I am doing an ongoing research on
him.
Included Page: Nothing New at the Vineyard
http://www.oocities.org/~contenders/flint.htm
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compiling material for a book on the life of Lonnie. He spent the last 2 years of his life with Set Free Ministries and I would like to tie that in with his years in minstry with calvary, vineyard, mumford etc.
Lonnie Frisbee:
Costa Mesa, California
Lonnie Frisbee died on March 12, 1993
Was buried at The Crystal Cathedral
in Garden Grove, California
June 6, 1950-March 12, 1993
Pastor Chuck Smith upheld Frisbee as youth pastor from 1968
until late 1971.
Taken from:
http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/prophecy/number1.htm
~Taking The Name, The Mark, Or The Number
Armies of False Teachings
The restorationist or dominion theology, various Joel's
Army and similar elitist teachings of the Vineyard,
Pentecostal and Calvary Chapel groups support variations of
Manifest Sons of God doctrine, which promote the perfection
of saints through the elevation and teachings of latter-day
prophets and apostles. It is believed by some that, under
select leaders, those who achieve a certain level of
holiness will be able to defeat all enemies and will
eventually become immortal. Costa Mesa Calvary Chapel, of
which Vineyard churches are an affiliate, was founded by a
small group under Chuck Smith, and grew under the
leadership of the late hippie and "evangelist", Lonnie
Frisbee." Pastor Chuck Smith upheld Frisbee as youth
pastor from 1968 until late
1971. Smith and Frisbee believed that the outpouring of the
Holy Spirit of Joel's prophecy was a precursor to Christ's
return.8. Frisbee contended that the Joel's prophecy placed
youth "on the vanguard of the spiritual revolution," which
he believed was being fulfilled by the Jesus People of the
60s and 70s.
"The Book of Joel had prophesied the
great outpouring of the Holy Spirit, which would take the
form of much witnessing and a highly intensified devotion
on the part of believers in Christ. Joel's prophecy placed
youth in the vanguard of the spiritual revolution, which,
Lonnie Frisbee contends, is being fulfilled now by the
Jesus People." 9. According to the authors of 'The Jesus
Movement', most involved in the Jesus People aligned with
the Joel's Prophecy teaching despite what the apostle Peter
said in Acts 2:16.
When Israel . . . regained its lost territory in the 1967
war God supposedly set in motion the prophecy of Joel that
young people would spearhead the great evangelistic effort
of the last days. The Jesus People see themselves as the
fulfillment of that prophecy. The Christian Foundation sees
itself as Joel's Army. Most other Jesus People see
themselves in terms of that same prophecy. The prophecy,
which is one of the most important passages in the Jesus
People canon, is found in Joel 2:28-32.
In his sermon
on the day of Pentecost, Peter quoted that prophecy and
prefaced it with the remark: "But this is that which was
spoken by the prophet Joel" (Acts 2:16). But since the
Jesus People collapse all history between the Book of Acts
and the present moment [1972], they see themselves as the
continuing fulfillment of Joel's words. As the church in
the Book of Acts represented "the former rain" that brought
the first fruits, the Jesus People adhere to standard
Pentacostalist view that they are "the latter rain"
referred to by the prophets and that they will bring in the
last fruits of the great harvest which will immediately
precede the second coming . . . 10 Since the Jesus People
are no longer youth and Christ hasn't returned, it is
unclear how their beliefs have been affected. It would
appear they merely have passed the 'sword' onto the young
people swelling their ranks, although some have taken the
role of being the "elevated prophets and apostles."
Clifford Hill writes of prophecies by the controversial Bob
Jones. Jones had been part of the Kansas City Prophets who
were endorsed and promoted by John Wimber, co-founder of
the Vineyard. Bob Jones taught that God was preparing a
"special breed" or an army of "dread champions" composed of
young people. Many support this theory, believing that this
elite group will be composed of youth up to the age of
thirty. Jones believed that the generation of children born
since 1973 would form the final generation of believers
whom God was preparing as the Bride of Christ to take
control of the world and present the kingdom to Christ on
his return. He continued, "I do believe what he's beginning
to do is a restoration of his very nature down here. Your
children will come behind you and they'll start on your
level of righteousness and holiness and they'll take off
from there. 11 John Wimber incorporated Bob Jones' concept
of 'the dread champions' into his Vineyard teachings. 12.
Clifford Hill writes that this was evidenced in the
brochure for an October 1990 meeting where John Wimber
wrote:
God has given us a vision to see the body of Christ move
from being an inactive audience to a Spirit-filled army . .
. God is about to unloose a powerful outpouring of the Holy
Spirit of an unprecedented magnitude . . . He is looking
for individuals who will be 'dread champions" for his
cause. 13. According to Hill, just months previous to that
vision, Paul Cain was in Anaheim with John Wimber and also
taught about these "dreadful champions".
God's strange act is going to bring a new order of things
and bring a new breed in and bring a transformation. . . .
.Little children are going to lay their hands on the sick
and heal multitudes . . . We are going to be just like the
Lord . . . They're going to say, "Here comes that dreadful,
fearful army of champions. Here comes those with a word of
knowledge, the word of wisdom, the working of miracles,
with a healing ministry, with the power to heal the sick
and raise the dead, with the power to know what's going on
behind the Iron Curtain." You're really going to be a
fearsome group before this thing's all over . . . . . .
Cain used prophecy to confirm the Latter rain teaching that
world evangelisation would result from the supernatural
power which was going to be given to believers. This
teaching was central to Wimber's message. 14
We know
that this teaching is in total conflict with the apostasy
foretold in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by
any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the
son of perdition... Restorationist and dominionist
proponents believe they will conquer the nations before
Christ returns, as Joel's army, whereby they will dispense
judgment on the ungodly and those who reject their
leadership. John Wimber, Paul Cain and their followers
taught that they will control and 'police' the nations as
indicated by Cain's statements. It is also interesting to
see how Cain used prophecy to confirm the Latter Rain
teaching that world evangelisation would result from the
supernatural power which was going to be given to
believers. This teaching was central to Wimber's message.
In the same speech Paul Cain prophesied that the new breed
would possess power to overcome the enemies of the gospel
and strike terror into them, "There's going to be an
awesome, reverential fear and respect for the church
because the church is going to regain her power, lose her
restrictions, lose her weakness . . . you're going to be
called upon by presidents and kings of nations, heads of
state . . . . God is going to have his army and they are
going to be a fearful bunch and they are going to go to
every place on the face of the earth..." 15 If these are
indeed the last days as many believe, we know that it is
not Christians who will be in power, according to many
Scriptures such as: Revelation 17:17 "For God hath put in
their hearts to fulfill his will, and to agree, and give
their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall
be fulfilled." According to some, anyone who does not
uphold these various leadership or teachings will be viewed
as an enemy of God. That will have to include people who
uphold obedience to the Word of God. The "dreaded
champions" belief might be an indication of the type of
spirituality required to wage war against God's people and
yet believe one was actually working for God.
John
16:2
"They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time
will cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he
doeth God a service." Those who claim to belong to Jesus
Christ and then take a different name for the Saviour, who
take a mark, and promote Biblical disobedience are
described in verses like:
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie: That they all might be
damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in
unrighteousness."
Changed:12:02 AM on Sunday, February 13, 2000