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interviews "We're
Sticking Together" - The Full Story
January 2001, Written by
Pat Gilbert
On the afternoon of May
20, 2000, the Oasis tour bus edged into
the car park of the Pavelló De La
Vall D'Hedron, Barcelona. The Catalan sky
was a deep, liquid blue and a
light breeze was blowing in from the
sea. With nearly 40 dates of their world
tour under their belt, the band
had long surrendered to the weird,
parallel universe of life on the road. At
the soundcheck, they swapped
instruments and jammed some Beatles
tunes.There was little to suggest that
the day would become one of the darkest
in their eight-year career.
"We were great that
day," says Liam Gallagher. "I
was playing drums, Noel was playing
guitar, the kids were waiting outside and
it was going to be a great fucking gig.
Then Alan [White, drummer] got back
on the kit and his arm seized up, and we
had to pull the gig."
With six or seven hours
to kill while the crew dismantled the
stage-set, Oasis retreated to the
dressing room and began to lay into the
rider - crates of San Miguel, bottles of
Rioja, Temprenillas, vodka, gin,
Jack Daniel's. As the night wore on, the
light-hearted banter between Liam and
Noel descended into a slanging
match. Then Liam went one insult too far.
"I lost it with him," says
Noel. "It was a proper fight - it
wasn't just like, I'll scratch your eyes
out, you bitch! It was a proper brawl,
and I'm actually quite proud of the
fact that it came to blows. He knows
if he crosses me that far I'll leave him
in the shit." With Liam left
sprawled in the corner of the
dressing room, Noel took a flight to
Paris before returning home to London.
Oasis's millennium white-knuckle
ride was just beginning...
If rock 'n' roll is dead,
then no one has told Noel and Liam
Gallagher. In what's generally
agreed to have been a quiet year for
music, they've dominated headlines with
on-the-road bust-ups, ructions in
their personal lives and, it must be
said, some of the most euphoric shows
they've ever played. Yet after the
fracas in Spain and the extraordinary
scenes at Wembley Stadium in July - a
cantankerous, pie-eyed Liam
("This is for all the knobheads out
there, just fuck off!"); Noel, now
back at the helm, looking on sourly
- most observers were convinced that
relations between the brothers were
irreparable and the band was doomed.
The tour ended with three inconclusive
festival appearances in August. At the
final date at Leeds, Liam insisted
that "this isn't a fucking
funeral". Few believed him. Since
then, there have been rumours that Oasis
are rehearsing in Buckinghamshire
without their leader and that Noel and
Liam still aren't getting on. On its
release in mid-November, the live
Familiar To Millions - a document of the
first, peaceable night at Wembley Stadium
- looked alarmingly like a farewell
gesture, a thank you to fans who'd stuck
by them to the bitter end, a requiem for
the band who are destined to forever
totemise the Britpop phenomenon of the
'90s.
Yet Oasis are not
splitting up. Noel Gallagher is adamant
about that. We are sitting at a corner
table of a Marylebone pub, unharrassed if
not studiously ignored - by the
lunchtime office crowd. The guitarist is
sporting a green jacket, rakish silk
scarf, bootcut Wranglers and a
large, flashy ruby ring. His face is
framed by an oversized George-in-'65
Beatle-mop, and he's holding a
Marlboro Light in one hand,a pint of
Guinness in the other. Noel tells me that
he's just missed out on the flat in
nearby Montagu Square where John and Yoko
were busted in October '68. He enthuses
about the "20 new songs"
that the rest of the band has apparently
written, and about the last Queens Of The
Stone Age album. The only topic we seem
to be avoiding is Liam. Today, it was he
that MOJO was scheduled to meet.
Gallagher senior is here as a matter of
diplomacy. His brother has gone
AWOL.
Liam's no-show this
afternoon is just the latest twist in a
fraught week of delicate negotiations and
minor traumas. Two days ago, the
singer was meant to bave attended a
photo-shoot at the Great Eastern Hotel in
Liverpool Street, but cancelled at
the very last minute. The official
line was that he "had flu". No
one had cause to think there was a
problem - until, that is, he was
spotted that very same evening at one of
Coldplay's London shows. And a few hours
ago, with the photographer and her
assistant on site, Liam's blown us out
yet again. So what's going on? Have Noel
and Liam bad another bust-up? "The
truth is he's seeing his little
boy," says the man they call `The
Chief', lighting another ciggie,
"Today is the first chance he's
had to see him for a while, and that's
what he's doing. Liam's a law to himself
- he's actually got no concept
of turning up on time and he
wouldn't give a shit if you came from
Mars to do an interview, because it would
be, "I'm doing this and that's
the end of it."
Fair enough. But you
could hardly blame us for being
suspicious. When MOJO last spoke to
Noel, in January, he was looking forward
to touring the band's fourth studio
album, Standing On The Shoulder Of
Giants, with new members Gem Archer and
Andy Bell. Conceived in a new atmosphere
of sobriety, and overseen by 'dance'
producer Mark Stent, Giants was meant to
be the big post-Britpop
comeback, the record that would
prove Oasis had an artistic life beyond
the decade they defined. Now we're
sitting here trying to work out
where it all went wrong.
"Look," says
Noel, sipping on his pint. "We've
never said we're breaking up, though
I grant you it did come very close at one
point. It's just... this year's been such
a fucking weird one, what with the
collapse of the label [Creation], all the
shit that went on with the tour, then
Liam and his missus breaking up,
then me and my missus, not to mention all
the shit behind the scenes that never
gets out. Like, I got a phone call
today saying my house in Ibiza has
virtually fallen into the fucking sea...
"
And what about the
rehearsals without you?
"Yeah, it's true, but that's because
I'd just split up with the missus.
They phoned up and said, `Look we're
going into the studio, are you coming?' I
said I couldn't because it wasn't
the right time for me. We're all going
through bits of shit, and at this
particular moment in time we've got
family problems and there are kids
involved and shit like that. So how could
you possibly have your head into
working out whether you should go into a
double chorus or not? But, as a band,
we're demoing as much stuff as we can.
It's pretty exciting for me because
before it was always 'me, me, me'. Now
Andy and Gem and Liam are writing I don't
have that same sort of
pressure. It's just a question of
getting this year out of the way and
getting enough songs together to make
another record."
"Yeah, it's been a
fucking mad year," says Liam when he
eventually
materialises, unapologetic and
looking as cool as fuck, at the
re-scheduled shoot the following Monday
(more of which later). "It's
probably the worst year Oasis have ever
had, but shit like this is a challenge.
The point is we're a fuckin rock'n'roll
band, not some poof band who play guitar
and do what they're fucking told. It's
never going to be easy with us, but
it's exciting, it gives people something
to talk about."
The next day a fax comes
through officially confirming a clutch of
Oasis festival appearances in South
America in January and a possible tour
with The Black Crowes next summer. It's
true, then: having been knocked for
six, given up for dead and read their
last rites, Oasis are on their feet again
and ready to fight back. What
follows is the exclusive inside story of
one of the most extraordinary years
in rock'n'roll.
JANUARY 2000: Oasis begin
rehearsals for a world tour.
New recruits Gem Archer (ex-Heavy
Stereo, rhythm guitar) and Andy
Bell (ex-Ride/Hurricane #1, bass)
replace founder members Bonehead and
Guigsy who'd unexpectedly left the
previous autumn to "spend more time
with their families". Noel is
excited about having two 'professional'
musicians on board and, as if to
celebrate their
new-found musicality, the band
record a version of The Who's
tricky-to-play My Generation for a Radio
1 session. A new single, Go Let It Out-
all grooving bass line, Mellotron chorus
and Beatles-go-psychedelic guitars-begins
to get heavy airplay.
What was it like playing
with two new members?
Noel: Gem was in the band about three
weeks before Andy so they didn't
come in together. We'd known Gem for
years from him being on Creation. We had
about three weeks where three
or four bass players came in - that
was like a week before we had to go to
America and do these radio shows,
which would have been last
November.Then Liam was reading Melody
Maker on the way to rehearsals one day
and he said, "Fucking Andy
Bell's joining Gay Dad!" and I was
like, Oh, right, and he said, "Why
don't we get him to play bass?"
And I said, I don't think he plays bass.
So Liam said, "Fucking hell, if he
can play guitar he can
play bass." I thought it was a
good idea, and a couple of days later he
came over. Once the five of us got in the
room and played the tunes it was
just fucking spot on. He looked the part
too.
Liam: We went for a curry
with Gem and asked him to join the band.
That was it. It wasn't like a
fucking job interview - he knew what he
had to do and he enjoys it. And that's
how it
should have been in the beginning, that's
what bands should be like - we should
have had him in the beginning but
we didn't. That's what our band
needs, good fucking players instead of
just having good songs and good front
men or whatever. We just jammed and
did loads of fucking covers. We didn't
really talk much. We woz happy. Andy
Bell's a wicked musician, too, man, they
both are.
Noel: When we did those
radio shows it was great because it was
the first time we'd got to that
drunken five o'clock in the morning
situation, talking about music and all
that. Andy's "Stones, Stones,
Stones" all the time and Liam's
"Beatles, Beatles, Beatles".
There was like a fucking
Mexican stand-off one night in a
bar. After we got past that one we knew
it was going to be fine. When we started
rehearsing for the tour it was just
amazing.
Did it feel weird without
Bonehead and Guigsy? They'd been playing
with you since 1992.
Liam: It wasn't weird at all. For me it's
straight down the line: if
they don't want to be in the band
and don't want to play with you then fuck
off, see you later. That's what
it's about - you're not married to
them, are you? It was their band as much
as it was ours and if they're not giving
fucking 100 per cent then see you
later.
Eighteen months down the
road, are you any wiser as to why they
got out when they did?
Liam: No. I haven't got a clue, 'cos
they're not doing anything, are they? If
they left the band 'cos they wanted to
stay at home, what are they doing? I
feel sorry for them. Music is a big part
of my life and if it wasn't for that I'd
be fucking in the shit. I'd be a
right cunt - I'd be banged up or
something.
You honestly think that?
Liam: Yeah, I do. I mean, I love Oasis, I
love my band, our band's
fucking great, the best band in the
world when we want to be. But when we
want to be we can be fucking idiots. When
we put our heads together we are the
fucking bollocks and no one can come near
us.
Are you still in contact
with Bonehead or Guigsy?
Noel: No, but Liam's still in contact
with them. They've never
actually spoken to me since they
left the band I don't know why. I suppose
it was weird for Liam because those three
were really close and I'd usually be
doing my own thing, writing or doing
interviews.
Liam: Have I spoken to
them? No. Well, I rang them last
Christmas. Every now and then Bonehead
will ring me up and go, "Fucking
hell, I'm fucking doing this, I'm
fucking doing that." But I'm like,
(disdainfully) Really, really? I've got
nothing in common with them anymore.
We never hung out with them anyway. The
only time I saw them was when we were on
tour. The only thing I had in common
with them was the music and now they're
not in the band any more. I wish them all
the best.
Noel: As soon as we made
the decision to carry on it was like,
We've got a fucking album, we've got
the tour and we've got to go and do
it. It was just a case of getting the
right people in, and we have. Now it's
like we've never had anybody else in
the band, y'know what I mean? On previous
albums I would write the songs
and that would be it. Now everybody
chips in. Now I'm saying, What do you
think of that? Is it the
right arrangement?
FEBRUARY. Standing On The
Shoulder Of Giants is released. Some
critics regard it as a work of
genius, many others (MOJO included) are
disappointed by its lyrical shortcomings
("I can see a liar/Sitting by
the fire", etc), familiar licks and
lack of truly momentous songs. There are,
though, some inspired guitar parts
and memorable moments: Noel's prophetic
Where Did It All Go Wrong?, the anthemic
Gas Panic and Liam's first assay at
songwriting, the simplistic, heartfelt
Little James. The initial album sessions
took in March 1998 at Chateau De La Colle
Noire, designer Christian Dior's home in
the south of France. The band-who were
renting the gaff at £32,000 a month-had
agreed upon a no-drinking policy for the
six-week sojourn, in part to help Liam
dry out after the excesses of their 1997
world tour.
However, after several
weeks on the wagon, Bonehead went on a
spectacular bender, which ended with
him breaking down producer 'Spike'
Stent's bedroom door at five o'clock in
the morning. A band argument ensued
and Bonehead flew home to Manchester. He
never rejoined Oasis. Ironically most of
the guitar and bass tracks laid down in
France were scrapped (though not the
drums) and new recordings made back
in London. On its initial UK release,
Shoulder shifts 500,000 copies - less
than half as many as Be Here Now and
about a quarter of (What's The Story)
Morning Glory. It also misses the US Top
20 completely, a territory Oasis .were
hoping to crack wide open. It will,
though, sell around two million in total
overseas within a few weeks.
So what did you think
about the criticism of Giants?
Noel: The lyrics on, oh, what's it
fucking called? - I Can See A Liar were
fucking shit, but I knew that in the
first place and for the life of me I
couldn't come up with anything better. I
should have written another verse for Put
Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is, but other
than that I would stand by all the
fucking songs on that record. It's not
very 'single heavy' which is also
probably true of Be Here Now.
It wasn't what people
were expecting. I think they were hoping
for something similar to your
collaborations with the Chemical
Brothers.
Noel: I'm not sure what people were
expecting. What it is, right, is
you play Epic like Fuckin' In The
Bushes and Go Let It Out, which are kind
of groove based, and they go and tell
someone from Rolling Stone that it's
an "experimental dance album",
when that's not really the case. You want
to tell them to shut their fucking
mouth until the record's finished. So
everyone's going, They're working
with fucking Goldie on the album and
the Chemical Brothers are doing
something, and it's like, fuck off! It's
just the same old shit. We never
actually said we were going to experiment
at all. We write songs on guitars -
that's what we do and at least within
that framework we've got our own
identity. We never said we were
going to change the face of music anyway,
we just said we were gonna have a laugh
playing rock'n'roll, which is what
we're trying to do.
Liam: People say it was
shite and people say it was good, I think
it's a great album. I think it's a
great fourth album, and if that's not
good enough then fine. People say it's
amazing, it's not amazing, nothing's
amazing, y'know what I mean? I think it's
great, otherwise it wouldn't
have come out. Just because you get
a couple of bad reviews doesn't mean I'm
going to go, Oh, you're right.
I stand by everything we do, because
we put it out and we are happy with it at
the time.
Did you enjoy the working
environment at Chateau De La Colle Noire?
Liam: I loved it. I was off the booze,
man, so I just drank loads of
water and was in the bog all the
time pissing. I was chilling. I wrote a
couple of songs out there, it was good. I
learned a few bits that I'd been
struggling with.
Were there arguments over
which songs you would record?
Liam: No, and there never has been. Noel
just writes them and that's it,
we record them and we're happy with
what he puts down.
I read somewhere that you
didn't like Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Liam: No. It's like Be Here Now, all the
songs that we recorded in
that session just fitted, all the
drum sounds, it all went the same
way-it's more of a package. It wasn't an
argument, I just had to say my bit
because if you don't say your bit then
you go home frustrated. And if there's
anything on my mind, I say it. And
if people tell me to
fuck off then fine. It's my band as much
as anyone else's. I've got
the freedom of speech.
MARCH. Oasis embark on a
monstrous 72-date world tour, taking in
Japan, Europe, America, Mexico and
Europe again. The setlist - which remains
basically the same for the next
four months - is solid, highly
conservative, ignores Be Here Now almost
completely and unashamedly pushes the new
album, starting as it does with
Fuckin'
In The Bushes (on tape), Go Let It Out
and second single from Giants,
Who Feels Love? The rest of the set
features various permutations of:
Supersonic, Shakermaker, Acquiesce,
Sunday Morning Call, I Can See A Liar,
Gas Panic, Roll With It, Stand By Me,
Wonderwall, Cigarettes &
Alcohol, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live
Forever, Champagne Supernova, plus a
cover of The Beatles' Helter Skelter
and Rock'n'Roll Star.
On the first night of the
tour, at the Yokohama Arena, Tokyo, Noel
and Liam are already in combative
form. "If you'd turned up at the
rehearsals you'd know the words,"
snaps Noel after his brother fluffs
a line in Stand By Me. "Perhaps if
we'd had the speakers plugged into the
nearest pub we'd be all right."
Liam, meanwhile, is concerned by other,
more basic needs. "Has anyone got an
biscuits?" he asks the
2,000-strong cowd.
It is, however, generally
agreed that Oasis - augmented by
touring keyboardist Zeb Jameson put
on a powerful,bristling, no-frills
performance. How did Gem and Andy's
musicianship stand up in the heat of a
real gig?
Noel: They were fantastic. It was good
for me, too, because I always
felt that, before, if I had an
off-night playing guitar then the whole
thing would fall apart because Bonehead
and Guigs weren't the best musicians in
the world. But now Gem plays more lead
than I do, which is brilliant for me
because I can concentrate on the
singing. It just feels fucking really
good, it gives you more confidence
Didn't you feel the
setlist was a bit conservative, though -
it had a lot of the old rockers on
it.
Liam: There was loads more we could have
done, but we were always planning on
doing Shakermaker and all that
stuff like Rock'n'Roll Star.
But you have these great
album tracks and B-sides- Rockin' Chair,
Slide Away, The Masterplan - why
ignore them?
Liam: Because we were being fucking silly
and arguing. We started off doing
Masterplan and all that in rehearsals and
it was a fucking great set but it didn't
work, y'know what I mean?
Noel: I only got people saying the set
was predictable when we came back
to England. But what people don't
understand is that we started to tour in
February and the band had
only fallen apart just before
Christmas. So we had to have 16 songs
ready to go out on a fucking world tour
so it was basically, What fucking
songs do we all know? There's a lot more
that we could have done but we didn't
have the time. It was only halfway
through the tour that we looked at the
setlist and thought this is very fucking
1994, 1995.
Do you ever get bored
yourself playing the same old stuff?
Noel: Yeah. But it's like someone says,
"Do we have to play
Rock'n'Roll Star?" You think,
Well no, and then Liam goes, "What
d'ya mean we're not going to play
Rock'n'Roll Star?" And
I'm like, Well, of course we're
going to play it! (Laughs) We just didn't
have enough time in rehearsals and we'd
already booked the gigs, so that was
why we played it pretty safe. We didn't
want to be stopping songs and going,
No, it's fucking F-sharp, because
that wouldn't have been fair on the guys
that had just joined the band. I
think they were nervous enough as it
was already.
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