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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go Badge.

Sorry Mikey but nothing like what I described is happening in the house but it did sound good didn't it?

You know me.
But I just wondered why you encourage some of us to explore these things and not me? Must be my unstable mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.crowdedskies.com/pages/alien_interview.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooksta! {{{ }}}....is the gig on the 26th still on? still looking as though we may make it....... if I am not working the following day that is icon_sad.gif ...no chance of having a drink and I would have to be back here early...but I.m hoping that I would be able to swap shift with someone if it came to it icon_smile.gif
Have been looking at some of the links ..wow,there's enough to keep me reading all night and then some icon_biggrin.gif . Here's one from me!
http://www.ufoarea.com/events_azer_warning_03.html

byeeee *waves*

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooksta wrote:
There you go Badge.

Sorry Mikey but nothing like what I described is happening in the house but it did sound good didn't it?

You know me.
But I just wondered why you encourage some of us to explore these things and not me? Must be my unstable mind.


I take it you had a good laugh at my expense the mooky! icon_biggrin.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ebs,
You know that Mooky's a VERY NAUGHTY BOY.I think he deserves a good spanking icon_lol.gif
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tell you something, all this is getting way out of hand. Lets just hope that none of the people in the forum really believe what is being written here.

I have kept my mouth shut from the start but I feel I have to say something now.

This sort of thing is great if you have the intelligence to laugh at it, but there are some people out there that will be totally taken in by this and will be very upset and worried, I am not saying that everyone in the forum is totally stupid or anything like that, but the forum is open to guests to read. My point is why the hell do we all keep coming back and reading what he has to say?

He has got us all hanging here like fish on a hook, just waiting to be pulled in.

IF all this is going to come to light then what do you want us to do Micheal?
Why have you chosen to post here? and why have you started the same thread on other forums using a slightly different name?

Ok some of what I have asked may have been answered earlier, but you have to admit it can be pretty heavy going getting through all this.

Sorry if I have upset anyone by this post but I could not sit here any longer wondering why?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont believe that any of this stuff is true. Everything up til Thatcher being involved had potential (I wonder if any of this alien visitation will appear in her memoirs! Theres no point asking Reagan to corroborate I guess!) My main quibble is the notion that Thatcher & Reagan would be flying around TOGETHER to meetings of any nature. 2 of the most important and influential world leaders at the time in the same plane? A minor point perhaps but even the Royal family travel around separately! However I would contend that all that Michaels posts seem to be doing is stimulating this kind of 'intellectual debate' (lol!). Where's the harm? Its got me interested in things I might not have been otherwise precisely because the overriding skeptic in me doubts the authenticity of these claims. I say if you dont like what youre reading, dont read it![/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:35 am    Post subject: Message from 'Get a grip central' Reply with quote

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why the hell do we all keep coming back and reading what he has to say?


I think the answer is quite self-explanatory... it simply makes for very good reading, (at least for some).

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This sort of thing is great if you have the intelligence to laugh at it, but there are some people out there that will be totally taken in by this and will be very upset and worried, I am not saying that everyone in the forum is totally stupid or anything like that, but the forum is open to guests to read.


But isn't that the same with life as well? the type of people you speak of would believe just about anything that people say and could well base their life around that belief, unfortunately this can lead to them suffering, but you may find that simply telling these people to get a grip and take it with a pinch of salt just will not work.

So, short of doing a detailed personality check on all visitors on the board I cannot see how those 'vulnerable' people could be protected on any open forum.

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Why have you chosen to post here? and why have you started the same thread on other forums using a slightly different name?


I am not sure if Michael has in fact owned up to this as it could have been anyone, but in any event he explained this was his plan earlier in the story and basically meant spreading the word. There is a bit more to it than that but I think you should re-read the story as that segment will become clear.

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Ok some of what I have asked may have been answered earlier, but you have to admit it can be pretty heavy going getting through all this.


Too true, but if you find the story interesting (and after the first post of Michael's I was hooked), then you will stick with it, and just like any book anyone enjoys reading - you cannot put it down.

Now unless there is some ulterior motive behind all this such as recruiting believers to join him in a mass suicide pact in his name or asking for monetary donations to push the plan forward, then I cannot see the harm in the story, and let's make this clear that is all it is... A STORY (at least for now).
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If you think it's bo**ocks, fine!, just go with the flow.

If you think it is an entertaining read, fine!, just go with the fllow.

In any event, just GO WITH THE FLOW - safe in the knowledge that if it was just a story, then you have been part of the experience, and if it is 'OTHER' (i.e. we will encounter experiences that Michael has listed) then what a bonus icon_smile.gif

But I think there has been enough concerns and questions asked now for Michael to hopefully clear up in his next post to alleviate any fears people may have.

Over to you Michael...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Some Answers Reply with quote

My Dear Friends,

I shall try and quickly put some answers to your questions. I should have thought that you would all have been in bed by now. Good morning. In no particular order I can confirm;

Spirits are able to travel with ease across the great divide to the 11th plain. The same cannot be said for the human form although this will be possible in the future once new technology has been released to us.

The force field under which we find ourselves on arrival at the 11th plain is merely a protection which is with us whilst we travel. This protective shield is relinquished upon arrival.

I knew the question of the conversation between Margaret Thatcher and President Reagan would be controversial. The operations of government organisations around the globe and communications between pilots, aircraft and the military are well documented and recorded by intelligence gathering. Commercial communications and diplomatic missions are also targets for espionage. We do this here on earth and accept it for what it is.

The resources available to the 11th plain enable its citizens to target and to record at will the conversations and the communications on our planet. They do not regard this as spying on the human race as their own thoughts are freely available by telepathic means for those receptive enough to read them. It is important for them that they know and understand the thoughts and views of our world leaders. On the 11th plain such conversations can be recalled and studied from a vast library of collected data.

Emma, I still stand by my previous comments. It is right for you to question the authenticity of any real live person, spirit or ghost. Never dismiss or believe in something without proof. I have offered no proof. I am wary of those that may have been, or are still concerned with my postings and that the content may have caused a degree of paranoia in some readers. I have no wish to continue along that route with the provision of evidence or to persuade or dissuade any reader from coming to their own conclusions. The reader should treat this as a story.

There are 12 portals. I have only visited the 11th plain. I do not know of the existence of other plains outside of the 12.

Earthbound spirits have always been present. Technology has merely provided a means of communication for some of us that have been fortunate enough to find it and understand how to operate it. The spirits from the 11th plain are almost identical to the structure of spirits on earth. Technology, we hope, with assistance from the 11th plain, will ensure that we do not follow the same path of destruction. All spirits are chosen. Finding them all is another matter.

This leads us to the question of communication. Spirits here on earth can communicate with visitors from the 11th plain by telepathy. Spirits here on earth cannot communicate with each other directly in this way. Once a visitor from the 11th plain is present the telepathy works at close range and even between earth spirits and mixed groups. The discovery of George in 1981 was a major breakthrough for the 11th plain. Think about normal human reactions and the actions of governments. Then consider the likely reaction and the acceptance of those of us that have died. To us in the spirit world, the whole concept is just a little more than believable due to our circumstances, and communication is much easier with the 11th plain. We are, by our very nature, accustomed to being without material goods and our nature is not so violent and destructive as that of the living.

Finally, your last thought ‘Just me’ Why not just tell a story? I ask you to consider, if I had started by just telling you a story then I would have found it difficult to get my message across. Stephen was correct in his comments some time back. This would have been a mediocre story at best. I am not a professional writer and neither do I have the imagination or the experience to produce a good novel. This is an experiment for me. It is my mission.

For the governments to clamp down on sightings and issues that relate to visits by other beings, the government would have to in part admit that such stories are true. To ignore them is by far the safest method and in most cases the government is very predictable in what it does. This is the reason why Jack and I have been left alone. Any government officer reading this and other forums is unlikely to be concerned at all. After all, how many of you actually believe what I am saying, so they are safe, for now.

My dear Ladyknight. It is said a little bullshit goes a long way. I am pleased that you enjoy my story and request that you honour your protector of the innocent motto by going easy on the innocent spiders.

Welcome back Stephen and Pumpkin and everyone else that I have not mentioned personally. I have read your reports of the Krill and Area 51 and all manner of things. I cannot answer them all. Far too much reading and I shall suffer from data overload I fear. Perhaps I can summarise what I know about some of the topics and concerns that you have raised.

The most worrying aspect of my tale which is causing some sinister undertones is the presence of other beings and spirits. This needs some clarification.

There are records of visits by other beings to planet earth. This is highly documented on the 11th plain and by giving any exact and detailed accounts here on this forum I would almost certainly find myself cut off from the internet and subject to unwelcome visitors. Your governments already know all about this. Much has been released to the general public by leaked documents and government personnel from several countries. Some aspects of it are true and some are not. The grey or grays referred to in some postings are indeed very well documented drawings of those from the 11th plain. References to insect like, and reptile species, are not something we know anything about.

Some of the interviews mentioned in the links provided do indeed appear to be verified by information from the 11th plain, particularly with regard to Nevada and Scotland in the UK. There are two types of visit that can be attributed to the 11th plain. Living beings resembling humans but obviously alien and which are described well in documentation from around the globe and on many web sites. Secondly, and more common, are journeys by 11th plain guides and workers commuting back and forth with new recruits and information. They are not visible in their physical state and resemble spirits or ghosts such as Jack and I. These are our main contacts. The technology that supports this is ingenious and almost mystical. Many visitors from the 11th plain are so dedicated that they spend much time among us on earth and dash around ceaselessly from location to location. They cannot be seen by humans any more than Jack and I. They are not limited by territory or confinement within a given area either on earth or in space.

The worst aspect of all the theories and conspiracy plots are the misleading comments about a benevolent race turning against humans. Details of underground stations with aliens dealing in human body parts and demonic activities. Now either I, and many others are being duped, or being used as unwitting helpers in an invasion of earth, or something is wrong. I have never witnessed a more peaceful and benevolent group of individuals as those I have been fortunate to meet on the 11th plain and here on their visits to earth. I have never heard them raise their voices in anger. In fact, for humans or earth spirits they are annoyingly polite and reasonable. They express their opinions but shy away from argument or confrontation. Let me tell you a little about the citizens from the 11th plain.

The level of technology available to those on the 11th plain dictates that if they wished to invade earth they could do so with ease. No weapon on earth could stop their invasion. Most of their kind are in spiritual form so destroying them is beyond the capabilities of humans on earth. The second point is that they have no weapons. Their space craft, which are now small in number, and not necessarily designed for spiritual travel, have never had weapons systems. Unlike mankind on earth they have never been concerned with attacking other species. They do have defensive mechanisms and the reasons behind this are obvious when you consider the reaction they got when they tried to establish contact here on earth in 1981. At least success in this respect has been more favourable in recent times but more on this later.

Here are two short articles I recovered from the data banks on the 11th plain. I was going to include this in a later part of my accounts but I publish this now so that you may understand the nature of those on the 11th plain. The translations are quite hard to put into words where names are concerned so I have done the best I can.

Log: 01101000100010101111000101010
Search String: 010101000101001

As we emerged from the vortex on channelling route 001001010010101010 from Alpha Centauri, we became aware of an alien vessel which was bearing down on us in an intimidating manner. This record is compiled by Barullah from level 10 of the 11th plain exploration service.

She passed over us with little regard for our diminutive size and our craft’s occupants.
We had a full crew compliment of 5. The vessel was around ten times the diameter of our own and equipped with plasma defence systems and driven by a primitive and unbalanced ion reactor. Her defence shields were archaic by comparison to our own systems. Scanning indicated a crew of around 450.

From the data bank we deduced that this was a stray ship from the Outer Worlds cluster on Zeta16. She must have been quite off course. Our sensors picked up the signals that this craft had switched to attack mode. Following established protocol procedures, we despatched our envoy to communicate, and activated our defence systems. Once our envoy was on board the alien vessel she tried her best to communicate with the occupants. There was no interaction or recognition of her presence. To have discharged her protective field and revealed her identity would have left her vulnerable and defenceless. She had already confirmed to us that the crew were a warrior race and wished to return to our own vessel. In the interests of safety this request was granted immediately.

Full details of the specification of the alien vessel and the species observed can be obtained from ‘central’ for all flight crews of other channelling routes and stations. This race is hostile and primitive and whilst not a direct threat, our counter measures should be enabled immediately on contact.

For a short time they shadowed our course and we observed them from a distance. They must have tired of this and at no point did they open up a communication channel or send out any signal of any form, to warn or order us to comply with any instructions.

Without warning this vessel accelerated towards our craft at just over tachyon 0.8 and exposed us to a total of 148 attack streams. We held our position and watched with interest as their ship paused for a cessation of hostilities. We were surprised that their commander then considered the most appropriate method of attack was to accelerate directly into our ship. How misguided he was in assuming that the size of his vessel was equal to its strength. We would have taken evasive action but this sudden and irrational behaviour caught us by surprise. Thankfully the alien craft did not sustain critical damage. To avoid a repeat attack and the possible destruction of their vessel we altered course to vortex 00111010111010101010101 at tachyon 200 on sector 8.

The following is an extract from the finding of George. This is only a short extract.

Log: 01110101011010101101011110001
Search String: 001110110111011

Planet Earth from vortex on channelling route 001000010011101011 from 11th Plain. Encounter Mission with full crew of 5. Crew consists of 3 guides from 11th plain and two flight crew (solids) from 12th plain.

[ Extract Only ]

First contact was established and we held our arms in the air in a peaceful and familiar gesture that should have indicated to the humans that we had come in peace. At first it looked as if they were receptive and appeared to be waiting for our arrival as arranged. We opened up a channel on some primitive electrical devices and established contact in their language. This race are not receptive to normal communication methods.

As we approached the creatures they attacked us with physical low propulsion objects propelled from metallic and primitive weapons that humans use for killing each other with. We had already enabled our defence mechanisms in readiness as this race are known to be imbalanced and irrational in their behaviour. They are not necessarily a completely hostile race and they do co exist with a degree of acceptance and integration between each of their different tribes which are divided into segments of land with rulers in no particular order or logic. They cannot always communicate freely with each other and even require translations between their own kind which is most unusual.

This mission would have been redundant at that point but for our chance contact with a presence called George. We noticed him standing there just a short distance from where we had stopped. At first we thought it was one of the lost crew but this was part human at least, and gave out human data on our readings but no physical life form. The humans were getting agitated and for fear that they may do themselves harm with their own weapons we left immediately with George.

Once on board our vessel we obtained George’s permission to accompany us on our return to the 11th plain. According to ‘central’ this is the first such encounter with a semi human presence and the most amazing discovery is that it almost mirrors our image and structure. As a matter of urgency and concern for our passenger we returned along the same gridlines at tachyon 400 almost halving our journey time.

That is all for now. I must go. I leave you with a thought. Did somebody in the future invent a time machine and go back in time to visit the cavemen and teach them to draw all those pictures of little men in space suits and flying saucers on their cave walls so that hundreds of years later they will freak out the archaeologists and UFO hunters?

Finally, to Samdallaway and others who would appear to be still concerned, despite much advice and warnings to the contrary. If you cannot treat this as a story and find it heavy going then please leave or if you wish I will leave instead. This forum has exceeded its sell by date and I only continue to post out of loyalty to those that wish to read what I have to say. If you are of such fragile mind that this is affecting you I dread to think what a frightening horror film would do to you. Thank you Ghost Sceptic for your wise words.

Perhaps I shall be back and perhaps I shall not. No matter. The world wide web is a very large place indeed. My best wishes to you all. There is much more to tell but telling it might be counter productive.



Yours truly


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael I am still here. Was being quiet and reading your posts ..Please don't leave as you have said all along totreat this as a story. I for one will miss your postings if you leave.. Good luck in all you do Michael..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:02 am    Post subject: Thank You Reply with quote


Thank You bluelotus92

Goodnight everyone.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In any event, just GO WITH THE FLOW - safe in the knowledge that if it was just a story, then you have been part of the experience, and if it is 'OTHER' (i.e. we will encounter experiences that Michael has listed) then what a bonus

But I think there has been enough concerns and questions asked now for Michael to hopefully clear up in his next post to alleviate any fears people may have.


Thats what I was trying to say but you did it much better!

To Michael, please dont leave us. I for one am interested in where this is going.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:06 am    Post subject: Inter Stellar Travel Reply with quote

If we could just get off solid fuels we would be OK. Even the primitive vessel at 0.8 whatevers would make a Jumbo look like a pretty sick joke.

Interesting once again. I cant remember that film I watched but it was a bunch of hippies on the roof of a building with flags and trumpets and trying to make contact with the aliens ( Independence Day I think ) whilst everyone else was running away. I think they got zapped.

This can work in reverse. If you dont want to meet friendly aliens and your scared then WALK - DONT RUN

KISS ME IM AN ALIEN.




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find I'm very busy with life at the moment so I only get to check in to see what's new but I'm so sad to think that Michael may not finish his story.

It's to be expected with human nature, particularly on the computer where one maintains a high degree of anonimity, that there will be those who have not heard or understood the old saying "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all".

Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head to make them click on this site and read what Michael has posted. If it's content disturbs you surf along elsewhere. If the other readers/posters of this forum disturb you because they don't appear to agree with you, likewise, this forum isn't for you and we all wish you well.

Now might we all have a nice group hug and listen politely to Michael?

Don't leave the story hanging now Michael!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Michael, as I said before - forgive me for my previous question although I'm glad that you were not offended and took it for what it was - healthy questioning.

I agree with Ghost Sceptic and Eke here, if you don't like the content then just don't read, it's really quite simple! We have been following the memoirs of our Michael for some time now and it would be a shame to lose him based on the view that we are all deluded emotional cripples who are unable to think for ourselves! We are not. We are intelligent and very interested in a story that has captivated our imagination - rather like a blimin' good Stephen King book but better.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, it was not my intent to offend anyone in my last post.

I thinkperhaps I was just asking myself out loud.

Please do come back Micheal, I have loved reading the "story" and will continue to read it as long as you post it.

As I said before it was not my intention to upset anyone, and I did not mean that all who read and post here are "emotional cripples".
indeed if that was what I meant then would that not make me one too?

Yes the intention of the "story" may be just to start a debate of some kind.

If so well good because it has given me something more than nappies and baby sick to contend with.

So once again I am sorry if I have upset anyone, and just ignore the ravings of a mad woman lol
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:18 am    Post subject: Hiya all Reply with quote

Its nice to see everyone come back. I thought we had lost everyone.

I'm hoping to go to Redditch in the next few weeks, don't know when yet. I must try and see if I can 'feel' the ghostly presence by the toilets, well, if it scares you that much, its nice to know you've got a loo near!

Has any one on the board ever seen a ghost or had any experiences of them?

See ya

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pat, the reason there is a "ghostly feeling" near the toilets in Redditch is that where the toilets are it used to be a church yard and it was relocated in the refurbishment of the Kingfisher centre. My father-in-law worked on the moving of the graves. I am not sure what the name of the church was, but I'm sure it can be found in old town records.

I have had several "ghost" encounters in my life, most of them were good feelings, but there have been a few times wgen I have felt lees than comfortable. We have our own group who go round on investigations, and are also members of another group.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Pennington my Friend,
I do enjoy your food for thought questions.
Ok yes time travel here we go i will try and explain.

If two ships start back to back and go in differant directions and acellerate together at a speed of 100 tachyons for 8 light years and turn. There would have been a Diltion factor of 2, in conjuction that inertial frames are equally valid one of the ships will move infact half the speed of the other.
Thus meaning that a 4 light year of time travel has accured.
So i conclude that yes an extra inteligant being witht he right techno could infact harness the time travel theory.

Before any one asks, I am in healthy mind and spirit and my life is just fine and dandy,
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry i forgot to mention, due to the theory of Solgpan, i must include the fact that time dilation is a counterintuitive consequence of special relativity and has the disturbing consequence that, for example, an astronaut traveling in a spaceship at very high speeds relative to the Earth would age less quickly than would friends and family. As a result, upon returning home, such an astronaut could find colleagues had grown old and died while he remains young.
Radio signals can also travel this way, meaning that any thing traviling faster that Tachyons under true law can be classed as a time paradox.
It seems that material matter would find it much harder to travel in superluminal speeds or higher. This would explain that our Mr pennington and Jack, would have to of had a kind of protection during his special fast encounters.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*scratches Anna's head as well*

Badger has either morphed into a brilliant scientific mind, or he's found some interesting data on the web.

The question remains "Will Michael come back to continue his story or is he now thoroughly disgusted with us?"

I hope Michael soldiers on and tells us the rest of it. I, for one, am still startlingly sane and would like to hear things to their conclusion icon_smile.gif
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta16.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anna that is a very odd site. If the rest of their science is like their grasp of the roles of magnetic poles on climate then its worrying.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stabbing in the dark basically ..i didn't understand anything on that site so just posted it hoping someone else would,i think alot of us are search but for what??most of the real interesting site's are closed ... and i cant make head or tail of the sites that i do find ..i'm just bored silly and trying to entertain myself ..Sorry icon_smile.gif
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