Diary of events for The Newbie's Song
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- c.29/8/96
- Original suggestion on Monty Python's Flying Talker - first line suggested as "...chatroom individual".
- 30/8/96
- Downloaded Pirates libretto, started writing.
- 16/9/96
- Original post to alt.fan.monty-python in the thread "Re:Posting of Binaries (part 2)". This was therefore the primary source.
- First verse reposted to alt.religion.scientology - attributed to Bonni Hall, probably from ahbou repost (time zones?)
- 17/9/96
- Reposted in alt.folklore.urban, David Lesher.
- Reposted in alt.humor.best-of-usenet, Bonni Hall.
- Request for publication in U. of Idaho Argonaut.
- Request for permission to distribute in a humor mailing list.
- 18/9/96
- Request for inclusion on a personal WEB page.
- Secondary source: I e-mailed a copy to a friend in Norway.
- First request for repost in alt.music.filk.
- Reposted to uk.misc twice, Iain Hotchkies and dom@i-cubed.co.uk.
- 19/9/96
- Reposted in afu, Shelby Greiner, attribution lost - 3 days after first post!
- Second request for repost in alt.music.filk.
- Reposted in ba.singles, Dave Kirby.
- 21/9/96
- Reposted in rec.arts.drwho, attributed to Dr. Who with correct attribution attached but marked "alleged"; presumably an in-joke.
- 23/9/96
- Shelby Greiner afu repost re-reposted to alt.music.filk, via local mailing, by rak@netaxs.com.
- ba.singles repost reposted in rec.humor, Stuart A. Bronstein.
- 24/9/96
- ba.singles repost reposted in uk.singles, Stuart A. Bronstein.
- Third request for repost in alt.music.filk.
- uk.singles post reposted in an internal newsgroup - first loopback, 8 days.
- 25/9/96
- Repost of Stuart A. Bronstein repost in soc.culture.african.american by space for rent .
- Reposted in rec.backcountry with full history by Eugene Miya:
- Forwarded-by: jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton)
- Forwarded-by: mbkomor@remarque.berkeley.edu (m.b.komor)
- Forwarded-by: satai@deepthot.cary.nc.us
- Forwarded-by: Cameron Dixon
- Forwarded-by: Bonni Hall
- Forwarded-by: dave.rogers@bt-sys.bt.co.uk (Dave Rogers)
- 27/9/96
- Repost, song only without attribution, in comp.arch.storage, by Rick Collin, apparently as a stock "clueless newbie" flame.
- 28/9/96
- Reposted in ca.general and ba.general by Eugene Miya, appended to an administrative posting.
- 29/9/96
- Extracted from Eugene Miya's administrative posting and posted to alt.2600, by Joel Rubin.
- 30/9/96
- Seen on the Forteana list "a couple of days ago".
- 1/10/96 (approx)
- Sighted on mailing list network2d-l@austin.onu.edu (for lawyers interested in office technology).
- Reported as having been mailed to the Geeks List twice within a week of the a.h.b-o-u repost.
- 2/10/96
- Reposted a second time in rec.humor, by Stuart A. Bronstein
- 4/10/96
- Reposted to alt.pub.coffeehouse.amethyst with new introductory text - attribution lost - by harper@tribeca.ios.com (Robin Carroll-Mann).
- Above version reposted to alt.best.of.internet by Ellsworth . Route unknown but involved at least one e-mail hop, and one followup mentioned three e-mail forwardings.
- 8/10/96
- E-mail from Yahoo Magazine, inquiring whether I'm the author as they plan to use part of the song in their December issue.
- 10/10/96
- ABOI repost posted to alt.sex.bondage and alt.sex.femdom by fredm3047@spamtrap.halcyon.com (Dr. Benway)
- 12/10/96
- alt.pub.coffeehouse.amethyst version reposted to alt.kalbo by Journeyman (andy@argus.demon.co.uk).
- Posted to alt.tv.space-a-n-b, no attribution or additional text, by Greyhound .
- 15/10/96
- e-mailed by a friend from Monty Python's Flying Talker; some friends want to put it in a PC user group newsletter. They e-mailed me and I gave them permission.
- 16/10/96
- Found on the WWW at http://www.iam.com/maryanne/newbie.html, no attribution.
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- Posted to alt.tv.kids-in-hall by shiraleah@aol.com (Shira leah); no attrib, followup text altered slightly but significantly to:
- (P.S. I've been looking for an excuse to post this on alt.tv.kith, despite
it being flagrantly off-topic, because I got the idea from somebody else
in a.f.m-p. We now return you to the normal KitH-related service.)
20/10/96
Found at http://caliban.physics.utoronto.ca/neufeld/humour.txt, a site containing a large number of humorous USENET postings. Appears to be an a.h.b-o-u archive site.
24/10/96
Found at http://www.ucalgary.ca/~thrcrawf/funny/newbsong.txt
28/10/96
Eugene Miya's admin posting on ba.general. This is now a regular monthly appearance, so won't be tracked further.
29/10/96
Posted to alt.aol-sucks by smythe@slip.net (Smythe), source not identified and no supporting text - poster is in SF so may be from a Eugene Miya post.
31/10/96
Excerpt posted to uk.gay-lesbian-bi by Matthew Malthouse (matthew.malthouse@guardian.co.uk), in a discussion of the Nieman-Marcus cookie recipe UL.
2/11/96
Shelby Greiner's AFU repost re-reposted to alt.support.depression by aurienne@access5.digex.net (Aurienne)
4/11/96
More WWW entries discovered:
- http://www.texas.net/users/mrbill/swgoths/archives/0004.html
- http://wave.park.wy.us/bbs/codyboard/messages/19.html (not found)
- http://www.ljx.com/mailinglists/cyberia-l/4328.html
14/11/96
- Posted to alt.kids-talk by blevenso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bryan D Levenson) in three sections.
- Found at http://www.src.gla.ac.uk:8000/~sam/humour/binaries.html (alt.humour.best-of-usenet post.)
2/12/96
Yet another post to alt.folklore.urban from clarke@concentric.net (Lance Clarke); complete except for author attribution. Corrected subsequently by the AFU community.
19/12/96
Posted to alt.support.headaches.migraine by wavsrus@softcom.net; appears to be the truncated version from YIL.
14/3/97
Found at:
- http://www.merton.ox.ac.uk/fun/computing/usenet.html, attributed to Bonni Hall.
- http://djinn.cs.berkeley.edu/lorch/humor/newbie.html, attributed "Sent by bonni@prarienet.org".
- http://www.ariel.com.au:80/jokes/The_Newbie's_Song.html, attributed to "anonymous".
- http://www.cios.org:80/mailboxes/ethno\10126161.017, no attribution.
- http://public.logica.com/~stepneys/sf/filk/newbie.htm, from one of the alt.music.filk reposts. Correctly attributed.
- http://www.happmis.com/wprog/fun-recent-archive/latest/132 (superseded - looks like a "joke of the day" type site).
- http://www.optera.com/~invid/humor/usenet.song, part of an extensive personal humour collection.
- http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/lsh/quotes.html contains a four-line excerpt, correctly attributed.
- http://www.jlc.net/~np/omega/ultimate.txt, unattributed - personal humour collection.
24/3/97
Found at:
- http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~benco/humor/I-AmTheVeryModelOfA-UsenetIndividual,
personal humour collection - the a.h.b-o-u repost.
- http://www.cps.msu.edu/~korthmat/newbiesong.txt - unattributed.
- http://users.the-link.net/jgreen/newbie.html - unattributed.
- http://www.ii.uib.no/~kjartan/humor/computer/news.newbie, correctly attributed and apparently taken directly from the original a.f.m-p post.
27/3/97
Found at:
- http://www.mech.uwa.edu.au/postgrad/acd/stuff/newbie.html, the a.h.b-o-u repost.
- http://www.thesite.com/0197w2/thebin/devfri.html, the Dev Null site; "sent to us by Karen at Planet Out".
- http://dcpu1.cs.york.ac.uk:6666/~davidl/personal/usenet_individual.html
- http://hagbard.ncsa.uiuc.edu/uiuctest/arts/art.17381, apparently archived from the uiuc.test newsgroup.
- http://users.the-link.net/jgreen/newbie.html, refers to the Dev Null site.
- http://www.nyx.net/~gfitzger/home.html contains a link to http://www.iam.com/maryanne/newbie.html.
- http://www.empire.net/~psl/Fun_People/1996/1996BSH.html, from the 24 September 1996 entry in the Fun People Archive.
- http://cam053212.student.utwente.nl/misc/fun/newbie.html, the a.h.b-o-u repost.
2/4/97
Found at:
- http://www.svaar.no/peter/usenetindividual
- http://www.haven.org/~dkap/humor/usnet_newbie - sent by Eugene Volokh, UCLA School of Law, who also sent it to the Cyberia mailing list site.
- http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~bmah/Filk/NewbiesSong.txt - the song seems to be doing the rounds at Berkeley.
8/4/97
Found at:
- http://www.idyllmtn.com/archives/lsh-l/current/0039.html contains a quote of the first two lines.
- http://tamvm1.tamu.edu/~WHIM/LOG9610.txt - appears to be an archive of a humour mailing list.
11/4/97
First verse appeared at the end of a Eugene Miya post to rec.backcountry, apparently a reference to his regular ca.general and ba.general administrative postings.
15/4/97
Found at http://homepages.enterprise.net/mb/fun06.html, no attribution.
21/4/97
Found at:
- http://blargh.res.wpi.edu/~moron/newbe.htm - linked as "The AOL Theme Song". No attribution.
- http://www.imsa.edu/~matth/doc/fun/u/usenet1.html - no attribution.
- http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/Filk/NewbiesSong.txt
- http://netrover.com/~stevem/jokes/computer05.html
28/4/97
Posted to uk.media.tv.sf.babylon5 by cat@cyberenet.net, taken from the a.h.b-o-u repost with full attribution.
Found at:
- http://www.voicenet.com/~xavier/aol/newbie_song.html - attribution: "By Anonymous Author"
- http://www.peg.com/wprog/fun-recent-archive/1996/132 - Mailing list archive, no attribution.
9/5/97
Found at http://www.concentric.net/~dcashman/humor/songs/newbie.html - attribution: "Posted on Rec.Humor by: Stuart A. Bronstein (adam@crl.com)".
15/5/97
Found at:
- http://www.magmacom.com/mailing-lists/inet-access/0500.html - mailing list archive.
- http://acc.jc.edu/~lolson/lynx_bookmarks.html, contains a link to one of the above sites.
16/5/97
Found at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~valkyrie/parody/newbie.html - the Gilbert and Sullivan Parody Archive.
23/5/97
Found at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~koffman/humour.html
26/6/97
Found at:
- http://pitel-lnx.ibk.fnt.hvu.nl/~warp/fido/fido1422.nws - Appears in the "Net Humor" section of Fidonews vol 14 no. 22, p. 26 - "By anonymous author". Presumably this counts as a mailing list.
- http://www.illuminated.co.uk/humour/binaries.html - The first repost from a.h.b-o-u.
- http://www.alink.net/~tomki/Funnies/usenet.txt - No attribution or source.
1/7/97
Found at:
- http://pecan.srv.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/jeliza/www/parody/newbie.html - an alias for the G&S Parody Archive.
- http://www.aloha.net/~pazuzu/nfnewbie.htm - taken from the original a.f.m-p post and correctly attributed.
15/7/97
First verse quoted in a post to uk.politics.misc by spin@aster.demon.co.uk
5/8/97
Found at:
- http://auchentoshan.pdl.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/jeliza/www/parody/newbie.html - another version of the G&S Parody Archive.
- http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mb/fun/index.html (moved from http://homepages.enterprise.net/mb/fun06.html)
18/8/97
Found at:
- http://users.ox.ac.uk/~mertinfo/fun/computing/usenet.html - attributed to Bonni Hall. Probably an alias for http://www.merton.ox.ac.uk/fun/computing/usenet.html.
- http://www.itc.org/ncte/ncte-talk-old/msg03544.html - mailing list archive.
1/9/97
Found at http://www.ece.cmu.edu/afs/ece/usr/bracken/humor/newbie.song.txt - Bonni Hall's a.h.b-o-u repost.
5/9/97
Found at http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~ej22/text/computer/Newbie.html
23/9/97
Found at http://www.zedtoo.demon.co.uk/humour/unet.html
11/10/97
Posted to alt.music.moxy-fruvous by thrawn@ohio.net (Grand Admiral Thrawn), no attribution.
14/10/97
Found at:
- http://www.empire.net/~psl/Fun_People/1996/1996BSH.html - mailing list archive, traced back via a.h.b-o-u to the original a.f.m-p post.
- http://lamp.infosys.utas.edu.au/jokes/msg00006.html - no attribution.
- http://www.zen.co.uk/home/page/g.mcvey/other/usenet.txt - no attribution.
- http://www.sdmedia.net/argarg/spam93.html - no attribution.
- http://www-scf.usc.edu/~vandeuse/usenet.htm - no attribution.
- http://www.illuminated.co.uk/humour/binaries.html - correctly attributed, with supporting text, directly from a.f.m-p
- http://christine.res.wpi.net/~moron/newbe.htm - no attribution.
- http://www.vixensinblack.org/~kamen/newbie.html - "Author Unknown".
3/11/97
Found at http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/djm2/archives/sent.97.03/gilbert.and.sullivan.net - no supporting text but correctly attributed.
10/11/97
Found at:
- http://www.dorje.com:8080/netstuff/jokes/comp.usenet.individual - song only, no attribution or supporting text
- http://www.cris.com/~dcashman/humor/songs/newbie.html - apparently moved from www.concentric.net
- http://www.duke.edu/~jlg1/humor/computers/internet/usenet-individual.html - song only, no attribution or supporting text.
19/11/97
Posted to alt.callahans by Andy May (andy@argus.demon.co.uk), without attribution - he's forgotten my name and e-mail address.
10/12/97
Found at:
- http://www.jurai.org/~funaho/humor/usenet.song - no supporting text
- http://www.dimensional.com/~rooth/plan.html - first eight lines only, no attribution, as part of a "thoughts and musings" list.
30/12/97
Found at http://infinity.nus.sg/cypherpunks/dir.archive-96.09.19-96.09.25/0614.html - another CYBERIA-L mailing list archive, Eugene Volokh's posting.
14/1/98
Posted to alt.fan.pratchett by Steph@ypsl.snuffle.demon.co.uk (Zappy) - "by anonymous author".
25/1/98
Posted to alt.music.pink-floyd by potwng@aol.com (Potwng), from a website - correctly attributed.
5/2/98
Posted to alt.vacation.las-vegas by Mark Bentkower , from a private e-mail - no attribution.
19/2/98
Found at http://wombatinfestation.unm.edu/~lillith/texts/new/songs/parody.newbies - couldn't access the site.
25/3/98
http://www.ccw.ch/Neil.Franklin/Jokes_and_Fun/Usenet_Model - copied in full from a.h.b-o-u.
28/4/98
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~smw/home/resources/net.html - contains a link to a version at http://www.sdmedia.net/argarg/spam93.html, the basic text with no attribution.
1/5/98
Found at:
- http://fenn.feline.pp.se/text/usenet.txt - "anonymous"
- http://home.samurai.com/lists/bryans-list/0142.html, anonymous, reprinted from a private e-mail (I think).
1/6/98
http://pfaol.for.net/pfaol/newbie_song.html - "by anonymous author".
10/6/98
Posted to rec.arts.sf.fandom by Fran Dowd , no attribution - presumably at least one intermediate hop by e-mail.
24/6/98
http://www.anglia.ac.uk/~operag/humour/others/mgsong.html - a personal net humour archive.
14/7/98
Found at:
- http://www.rio.com/~crazymax/jokes/newbie.html - no attribution.
- http://www.oocities.org/Hollywood/Hills/7289/newbie.html - no attribution.
28/8/98
Posted to rec.gardens.roses by "BAT" (tiede@rocketmail.com), sourced from the ba.general regular post. I have no idea *why* it was posted here.
16/9/98
First two lines quoted in a post to rec.arts.comics.dc.universe by The Great and Powerful Danny Sichel (eds7466@umoncton.ca) - sig?
26/10/98
http://lamp.man.deakin.edu.au/jokes97/msg00006.html - this has been there since August 1997, which should give an idea of search engines' coverage of the WWW.
16/11/98
Found at:
- http://www.dreamhaven.org/~catlin/Thoughts/newbiesong.html - appears to be based on the edited Yahoo magazine version. Correctly attributed. What worries me is, it's filed under "Serious"!
- http://www.sandwich.net/kalten/newbiesong.txt - no attribution or supporting text. The site owner is Matt Korth, which suggests it may be related to the second site listed under 24th March 1997.
- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ofcalba/fun179.htm - 404 when I looked. Owain F. Carter's fun pages, attributed to Bonni Hall. Page now moved - see below.
- http://www.thelitterbox.org/public/fido/969798/FIDO1422.txt - another Fidonews archive.
- http://caad.arch.ethz.ch/~neil/Jokes_and_Fun/Usenet_Model - also 404, but looks like another Neil Franklin page.
13/1/99
Reposted to alt.callahans by Andy May
Post in alt.fan.pratchett refers to a recent post by Denise Connell, which DejaNews doesn't seem to have archived.
16/1/99
Posted to alt.autos.corvette by toy_boy@my-dejanews.com
16/3/99
Found at http://www.aber.ac.uk/~ddb4/humour/usenet_song.html - arrived via an e-mail.
6/7/99
E-mailed by Owain F. Carter, whose fun pages entry has now moved to http://homepages.tesco.net/~scotsnet/o.f.carter/fun/fun179.html with an offer to fix the attribution, duly accepted.
15/5/99
Yahoo Internet Life abridged version posted to alt.parenting.solutions by Kendra U (kendrau@aol.com.block)
8/7/99
Found at http://www.south-of-heaven.demon.co.uk/tom/funny/usenet.html - full song but no supporting text, no attribution.
4/11/99
Posted to rec.backcountry by Eugene Miya, not as part of his regular propagation probe but apparently as part of a mild reproof to a rather clueless poster.
12/11/99
Posted to alt.fan.furry.politics by Bahumat (Lord_Bahumat@nocrud.yahoo.com), no attribution.
16/11/99
Found at: - http://www.ampac.com/inet-access/1997-05/msg00145.html
- http://swirl.mcc.ac.uk/hfiles/aaadbk.html (unattributed, but provision to contact webmaster to update attribution)
- http://www.jokeindex.com/joke.asp?Joke=67
- http://www.oceanwave.com/technical-resources/humor/usenet-newbie.html
13/12/99
Paraphrased on alt.politics.british by Malc92.
2/1/2000
Opening couplet used as a .sig file on alt.parenting.solutions by Kendra (kendrau@aol.comhairle)
8/3/2000
Posted to nz.general by Robin Halligan (radarman@ihug.co.nz), complete, no attribution.
7/3/2000
First verse posted to freeserve.webspace.au by Paul Baker
(newsjuly@levante.demon.co.uk) in a discussion of karaoke.
11/3/2000
Posted to soc.singles by enialle (ohwell@greenheart.com), part of first verse missing and attributed as anonymous.
3/5/2000
Found at:
- http://www.illuminated.co.uk/searchengines.html - a "Stupid Search Engine Goofs" page - as an example of something that will be reliably found.
- lanminds.com/~mohanraj/Amusing/newbie.html - a new hit, but looks familiar.
- http://195.40.112.14/leon.phillips/humourpages/newbys.htm - no attribution.
5/6/2000
Found at http://wreckedhumor.tripod.com/songs/newbie.html - contributor attribution only.
18/7/2000
Found at http://ology.org/eschat/parody/newbie.html , a new url for the G&S parody archive. Properly attributed and nicely formatted. I like these people, whoever they are.
27/7/2000
Usenet postings:
- Posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly by Mark Anderson (mark.anderson@sonoma.edu) with the comment: "Here's a very old newbie usenet lyric. It's been around since at least the late 80's. Every couple of years I have occasion to post it again. Enjoy!" Late 80's, is it?
- Posted to rec.skiing.alpine, sourced from the r.o.f.f. post, by Space Elder (Luv2Camp@ADingoAteMyBaby.com).
7/11/00
Found at http://lab.caw.fsu.edu/~dlaroe/humor/usenetNewbieSong with no attribution, a personal Internet humour collection.
29/12/00
Found at http://dopey.rediris.es/ftp/docs/faq/ca/general/[l_m_2_4_97]_[b|c]a.general_News_Quiz - unable to download page, but from the title it appears to be something to do with Eugene Miya's ca.general administrative posting.
15/2/01
Posted to rec.arts.mystery by WareWolf (dustyr@nc.rr.com), no attribution.
25/2/01
Posted to uk.rec.waterways by Neil Arlidge (neilarlidge@tuesdaynightclub.co.uk), no attribution; later in the thread he comments that "I nicked it off a mate's website, credited anonymous".
19/3/01
Posted to uk.gay-lesbian-bi by Owain (usenet@gowan-hill.com), no attribution in post but linked to Owain F Carter's humour archive which is fully attributed (see above). Much appreciated, Owain.
23/7/02
Posted to alt.fifty-plus.friends by Marian, no attribution.
23/7/02
Posted to alt.sixtyplus by Lanky, no attribution.
26/7/02
Posted to alt.society.zeitgeist by Joel Olson, no attribution.
7/10/03
Posted to uk.rec.sheds by Frank Erskine, no attribution. A lengthy thread ensued on the topic of "What is the British equivalent of a Hershey bar?", for some reason.
23/2/05
First new sighting in a long time, although I haven't been looking much lately. Found at:
- http://forums.firstones.com/showthread.php?s=e89463a29c19ec457215a344ab7be6ce&threadid=4761&goto=nextnewest - a Babylon 5 discussion forum. Full text with correct attribution, which is nice. Posted 24th April 2004.
- http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=168198&messageID=1717184 on a discussion board thread under the title "Friday Yuk", apparently a weekly funnies thread. Full text, attribution is "Author unknown". Posted 11th February 2005.
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