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Rowain
#1 Dec 26 2005, 01:39:42 AM Report Bad Post Reply With Quote
 
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Are you people honestly happy with GW as it is right now?

The Christmas topic further put into light what I've thought for a long time. GW is becoming pretty faceless. Every other person is seems to be hopping on bandwagons now. I don't know, this might not really be anything new but it's getting pretty annoying. I guess it all comes down to double posting (LOL WHAT IS WRONG YOU ROWAIN BEING SERIOUS ON INTERNETS??) but seriously.

This shit is getting old.

This dumbass double, triple, QUADRUPLE posting with no punchline, no meaning. No humour. I'm drawing on leafo as a reference for this since he did it in the Christmas topic but where is he getting it?

I'm not sure if targ is to blame (re: NOT SURE) but as it is, everyone types the same these days. Like I said, double posting is becoming common place. It's not that OH ITS A RULE INFRACTION OF SECTION 44.b OF GAMING WORLD CHARTER (shut up, I know someone was thinking that), it's that it's NOT FUNNY. And because everyone is hopping on this bandwagon of acting the same. I can't even tell posts apart from people like Corel, or Atari, or BobJUstBob, or lORD etc anymore. There's this COOLGUY attitude going around, where you guys chatter about someone on IRC and then pop into a topic and all prank or play along. GAX for instance. His shit grew to like 4 pages with people PRANKIN' with the coolguys. But it wasnt even a FUNNY prank. no one DID anything except lol play along ME I WANT A BLING NECKLACE. What's my point? Just that it's stupid. It's some collective mentality, and I can't explain it any better than that.

Legit topics can be destroyed now, with a few early posts but COMEDY COOLGUYS. The wiccan topic. Is it so ASTOUNDINGLY AWFUL that someone wants to discuss paganism in the general forum? But sure enough, minutes after the topic wasposted, it got spammed with like five replies from comedy coolguys (I deleted them). People don't think for themselves. They will just as easily see the topic derailed and derail it further as add any new thoughts to it.

I mean, you can see it in any topic. Someone posts something, and someone else comes in, quotes the other post, and doesn't add ANYTHING. They just quote and leave. Well thanks, it's nice to know you have nothing original to say and felt like quoting what someone else said without adding anything. Really helps keep up the spirit of mental exchange.

Sure. This is Gaming World. it's a Gaming forum. it's the Internet. Internet communities have fads, etc. It's like the World of Warcraft forums guys. Where topics are filled with the O RLY bird. LERN2PLAY. Cry more nub. Everyone there is completely unoriginal and lacking identity and it feels like that is what GW is becoming.

To quote panda, "It's as if GW has suddenly turned into fucking MIDDLE SCHOOL."

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LOL INTERNETS SERIOUS BUSINESS

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http://gamingw.net/forums/showthread.php?t=38865

that = not funny. and that includes every post in the topic.

I have nothing against pranking and double posting every now and then if it doesn't go too far. I think that the whole Gax thing was funny at first but only with people who were originally doing it on IRC as well. I think that pranks like that never were a problem, though. Those pointless posts which are stupid and not funny at all are the problem. But anyway, you are correct. The whole thing is getting really annoying because it happens all the time and everywhere, and it's not funny. I don't think what exactly we should do about it because even moderators do it. It'll be hard to ask members to stop doing it if the moderators do it as well. I don't want to totally forbid double/triple posting, it's just that the "lol coolguy" thing just needs to end. First of all, the moderators should stop doing it starting now. After that we can ask members to stop doing it as well.

I think that I'll just start deleting posts from now on. Not always but when I see someone overdoing it.
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i don't like it, but i guess people would say to me BUT JESTER YOU FLAME PEOPLE, THAT IS AS BAD IF NOT WORSE

so i will just go along with whatever comes out of this topic
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So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering and four Colditz salads.

Oh.. wait a moment, I got a bit confused here.. sorry! I got a bit confused 'cause everyone keeps mentioning the war!

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i don't like it, but i guess people would say to me BUT JESTER YOU FLAME PEOPLE, THAT IS AS BAD IF NOT WORSE

so i will just go along with whatever comes out of this topic


Well, you're more like me in the sense that you save your meanie flames for IRC. If you just stopped being a dick on the forums all together there'd be nothing against you!

But Jester, even you have changed. A year ago, you capped every word that needed it, added puncuation. Even after SMILIES. :D. But now... it's like everyone else!
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yeah i got lazy when i notice bart stopped doing it

i blame bart
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So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering and four Colditz salads.

Oh.. wait a moment, I got a bit confused here.. sorry! I got a bit confused 'cause everyone keeps mentioning the war!

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I told you so.



Well, we can always push to start setting up better examples. The cool guys group you mention happen to contain some moderators, and I think its really set up the situation we have now. Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Flattery is nice, but if imitation means breaking rules freely and pranking new people... :/

And GW in general has been a very hostile environment. You usually have to be very closely aligned in behavior with the cool-guy group not to get attacked. Everyone else is run out of the forum.
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And GW in general has been a very hostile environment. You usually have to be very closely aligned in behavior with the cool-guy group not to get attacked. Everyone else is run out of the forum.

this isn't the part that needs to change btw, it's the WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE and what isn't bit, mainly referring to double+ posting, posting useless comments etc
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So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering and four Colditz salads.

Oh.. wait a moment, I got a bit confused here.. sorry! I got a bit confused 'cause everyone keeps mentioning the war!

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Uh.

There's a pretty clear difference between Hundley's topic and what Rowain is talking about IMHO.

See, Hundley's topic was created for nothing more than JOKE FELLATIO etc. Topics like the Christmas topic had legitimate purposes, and the Gax topic was, yet again, pranking someone on the forums (not that that's too bad, except for how it wasn't FUNNY AT ALL). Say what you will about Chef's cybering, it's usually done OFF FORUMS and then brought there. Like, I have no idea why you would say Hundley's topic is GREAT GRIEVOUS PROBLEM, seeing as how it's in the lit forum, a little visited part of the forum, and even the newbies could tell what it was. Hundley's topic was made for a clear purpose. Does it break the rules, yeah sure, but I thought it was sufficiently funny to let it slide, albeit temporarily (I didn't realize this till right now, but Diggity's on holiday right now, so yeah, your locking is probably appropriate if for what seems to be strange reasons). It didn't make fun of anyone really, and EVERYONE was in on the joke.

I dunno about you but I can see a pretty clear difference between a topic like "angela lansbury sexual gratification thread" and "Merry Christmas".

And it isn't the targers to blame either. Like, thinking about it objectively, targers double post when it's at least MILDLY FUNNY. It isn't regular members either, because double posts are usually done when they have to change the subject (ie: posting in a topic and ranting about FINAL FANTASY XII and then posting again to add "BTW I HAVEN'T PLAYED FFX" because you're pretty sure about a million people are reading the topic at once and an edit will go ignored).

I really don't think panda's point, or Rowain's, has anything to do with OH NO GW IS BEING UNFUNNY, although that's a small part of it. Panda IMs me one day and sends me this post.

http://www.gamingw.net/forums/showp...29&postcount=10

WHAT IS THAT SHIT? Why is JILLIAN RAY talking like that? Oh, and I don't mean that in an elitist "ARGH GET OUT OF MY CLIQUE WAY". The way I see it, you talk like that when you want to get some level of humor or SERIOUS across.

That post wasn't very funny. At all. HOVERBOARDS, guys.

HOVERBOARDS.

And it's not just her. Go through the topic, and try to identify individual posters. Go ahead, I will wait.

NO NO NO

Better still.

Try from the quotes alone.

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fuck you im jewish

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i still got 6 hours

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hey guys hows the future

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im doing an interview for school

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imaek is getting hot.................for u

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merry christmas in like 4 hours

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why are you hitting on imaek


Guess the poster. I'll be amazed if you can do it without context. imaek is a little more distinguishable because he usually posts weird garbage anyways (NOT targ). And yeah, I'm getting tired of him going into topics with that shit, but something tells me that he'll be stopping that soon (now that he has someone to impress hoho).

Now, compare it to, say, Jester and myself.

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because no one calls them on it. i don't see a point, half the mods are like NO IT'S FUNNY so i just leave it. merry xmas all (except drule)


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sorry, you're about as a big a faggot if you think UNFUNNY DOUBLE POSTED GARBAGE is targ. or that leafo is even part of the "TARG KREW". so uh. everyone shut up. I find it amazing how you can manage to shit up a MERRY CHRISTMAS thread, but good job!


AMAZING. Even when doing the exact same lowercase typing shit and making a similar point, we still have a SENSE OF IDENTITY in our posts, and not just from the content. Jester's post alludes to the point he's making and ends with a joke. Mine is filled with sarcasm and a little more direct. You'll find that we both tend to post like that in general.

That's the real problem. Sure, you can look at it as a surface issue and say "OH NO GW IS DOUBLEPOSTING UNFUNNY" but it goes beyond that. Some of the people above used to post NORMALLY. Now they all do this kind of shit:

yeah gr8 job.
holy shit.
wat.

Oh, and yes, I do this too. The difference is, for everyone of those, you'll find one of THESE, a big post that sort of makes a point. The same is not true of leafo et al.

The big bloody point of it all is, STOP POSTING LIKE THAT. Seriously. That's all we can do. If every mod/staff/admin stops posting like, well, Bart used to, everyone will stop imitating it. Not that Bart's to blame; I really don't know who or what is, Panda and I discussed that to great length. But it's irritating. I like to know WHO IS POSTING from more than the avatar. I know some of the people in that thread have identities beyond "school project" and "holy shit" because I've talked to them and got them in conversation to the point where they, gasp, have to express themselves in more than a couple of sentences!

And I suppose you can argue WELL I EXPRESS MYSELF THROUGH THE SIMPLEST MEANS POSSIBLE, but you and I know that's bullshit and you didn't come on these forums typing like that.

Honestly, I think this is like when STEELING became a problem and everyone and their fucking sister started doing it. I tried to cut down, as did a few other people, and as a result, the forums cut down. Now it's sort of embedded in most people, but compared to this latest trend of shiftless blob it's relatively harmless.

In short, stop posting this boring shit.
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i think it comes down in part again to WHAT IS FUNNY. i didn't find hundley's topic funny, but apparently some people did so it's ok! stuff like that. if people see hundley posting a one liner topic, they're gonna think it's ok to post a one liner topic, regardless of CONTEXT or CONTENT or whatever.
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So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering and four Colditz salads.

Oh.. wait a moment, I got a bit confused here.. sorry! I got a bit confused 'cause everyone keeps mentioning the war!

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Another addendum to Steel's post: when I discussed this with panda last night, I said even Jester has fallen to the same sort of style. But he's also quick witted to his credit, and can generally at least make a point or joke when he does a post, even if it looks the same as any other post by typing style and whatnot.

Regarding Hundley's topic: I can respect him trying to make a point and joke at the same time, but it wore out pretty fast, much quicker than when the topic was locked.
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i think it comes down in part again to WHAT IS FUNNY. i didn't find hundley's topic funny, but apparently some people did so it's ok! stuff like that. if people see hundley posting a one liner topic, they're gonna think it's ok to post a one liner topic, regardless of CONTEXT or CONTENT or whatever.


Uh.

I don't think this is about ONELINER topics though, so much as people going into other topics with legitimate posts and fucking them up with shitty posts.
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and people seeing a one-liner topic (which, to them, makes no sense and has no point) won't make them think it's ok to do that in other topics?

man i should stop checking this topic as i am going to cause BIG ARGUMENT so i will just go along with whatever comes out of it ok go
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So that's two egg mayonnaise, a prawn Goebbels, a Hermann Goering and four Colditz salads.

Oh.. wait a moment, I got a bit confused here.. sorry! I got a bit confused 'cause everyone keeps mentioning the war!

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and people seeing a one-liner topic (which, to them, makes no sense and has no point) won't make them think it's ok to do that in other topics?

man i should stop checking this topic as i am going to cause BIG ARGUMENT so i will just go along with whatever comes out of it ok go


Wait what.

We are not talking about that bucko!

We're talking about topics that CLEARLY HAVE POINTS and are NOT INTENDED FOR SHITT CAUSING being subverted in favor of "i have three beans i am a beaner" and "quit hitting on imaek".

I dunno, I find the lack of identity more distressing then any potential double posts or whatever.
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I agree with Rowain about that "cool guy" attitude. Basically a few of the mods do it sometimes and it can be funny but then lots of the members try and imitate it (flattery) and then it all becomes too much. Mainly due to the fact that 90% of the members will do it unfunnily.

Also, like Jillian Ray for example. Yeah we all know what she's like but telling her:
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Your makeup in that picture made you look like a whore and anyone who said otherwise is just trying to get in your pants.

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jillianray you are a whore!!!!

Is actually pretty fucking bad (it's not the first time I've seen this sorta thing). I think general offensive comments like these should be clamped down on with an iron first! I think this because they come across serious and harsh and cursing people shouldn't be so open on GW.
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