SUNDAY CHAT:  KHALID, JUTTA & FRANZ

       Topic:ACTUAL TENDENCIES IN THE LABOUR PROCESS

Sunday, 23rd January, 2000.

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frogmobile has entered the room.
panta98: Well, there you are!
frogmobile: Okay guy, I am here! I just had to reboot, because I was thrown offline.
panta98:Hi! Guy! How's Life?
panta98:Well, it seems that you enjoy the new AOL-technology!
frogmobile: Man! I admire your patience! You are a real "good guy"!
juttaschmi has entered the room.
frogmobile: I am still to figure it out. I am a novice in this chat business.
panta98:Well, I'm a religious, virtuous Guy! With you, I always were patient.
juttaschmi: Hi! Khalid, this is amazing! First time we have a little chat conference. Welcome on board, online!
panta98:That's why you became such a "good" guy!
panta98:Jutta has joined us!
panta98:Now, we are the Three Musketeers!
frogmobile: Hi Juttta, guess what - its freezing here! Again, we are all snowed out! I can see
the roof tops of houses from my fifteenth floor appartment - they all look like litttle IGLOOS.
panta98:Jutta, please change your colour to blue, or green or any other colour.
juttaschmi: How has everything been going with the installation of your home connection,
Khalid? - I imagine you enjoy the igloo panorama out there!
juttaschmi:... let's try this one out ... ;-)
frogmobile: Yea! It's fun, Juttta. Thanks for the encouragement to get this "baby" in order!
panta98:Well, that's a Patricia-smile!
frogmobile: Alright guys! Lets have a bawl.
juttaschmi:  Yeah. I'm glad we've encouraged you to do so.
panta98:How about your research work?
juttaschmi:I have just sent an invitation to the two of you from my new Listbot
discussion forum. Anything that has to do with Natural Science and Philosophy can
be discussed there...
juttaschmi:... including "Life Sciences", Pharmaceuticals, Agriculture, Chemistry -
and so on.
frogmobile: Oh, goosh you are putting me on a spot. I am still trying to come to grips with
that topic.
juttaschmi:  I enjoyed all your comments regarding the drugs topic, Khalid.
panta98:You are our drug expert, but please do not take them you yourself!
juttaschmi:  I think you should make use of you graduation paper and post parts of
it on the Internet. Honestly. Why put your research into the cupboard and let the
mice have a bite on it? Better put it on the Internet for further debate and
discussion.
frogmobile: The life sciences are of interest to me for sure, and there is lots to talk
about. Soon there will be a conference in Montreal on Genetically Modified Foods.
Already they are planning a mini-demonstration.
frogmobile: Thanks, Jutta. Soon, I will write more. Thanks for your
encouragement. I will do some writing soon, and have them posted. Right now, I am
doing the research on Breast Cancer.
juttaschmi:It is sad to see, how the crap they call food has steadily been
entering the Meridenian local market. Everything you buy - vegetables, fruits - has
the same no-taste we had been used to in Germany for so many years.
panta98:Breast cancer? What has that got to do with drugs?
juttaschmi:Peasants grow their vegetables/fruits on the same, chemical,
bio-technological basis as anywhere else on the planet now, and the characteristics
of excellent health, taste and flavour has vanished! You get huge-sized, bright-coloured and
flavourless food, that tastes of water or chloride, and all tastes the same anyway. It's disastrous.
juttaschmi:Khalid, want some coffee?! At least coffee still has the same, enchanting
flavour here as ever.
frogmobile: The drug industry has been promoting medications and awareness programs on Breast Cancer as a tool of of getting women hyped-up on the issue. They promote cancer preventing drugs for women to take. Sadly, lots of women who do not have it, are now using expensive drugs as a preventative.
panta98:That is something which you could write about, and post it on your
own site in Listbot! Or did you forget your own site?! Jutta will also subscribe to your site in Listbot; I'm already a member!
juttaschmi:Yes, this also is an important aspect of mind control - make people believe they are sick,
or make them sick by bombarding them with statistics and the probablitity of getting it, and you
sell your stuff and use them as guinea pigs at the same time!
frogmobile: I am not suprised that the peasants are using genetically modified technology. It is through their farm that the Multinationals are doing their "secret" experiments. Sometimes, the very peasants are not aware of what is going on. They become the "labs" of multinational research.
juttaschmi:True enough, Khalid. The peasants do not have the foggiest notion of what is going on. They are too happy to have a good and fast crop, (pumping it up with chemicals is just part of the normal procedure), and to sell it on the local market and get their money. Which is a pittance, anyway.
frogmobile: Jutta and Franz, this is indeed a very sad, despicable world in which we are living. Money and profits are the guiding mantra of breath of all that share this planet.
panta98:Right here in the Paramo, the peasants produce huge potatoes, tomatoes and carrots, cloned and bombarded with drugs. You cannot eat the stuff, make no Caesar's Salad anymore. Everything tastes the same. And you lose taste of everything!
juttaschmi:What is even sadder, Khalid, is the fact, that they have rotten this planet to a degree, where we don't see any natural processes happen anymore.
frogmobile: Where do we go from here? I do not see a change for now.
panta98:After devouring this crazy food, you even lose the taste of reality!
juttaschmi:The tendency of the whole process is not very encouraging, indeed, I'm afraid.
panta98:What do you suggest, Khalid?
frogmobile: I agree Jutta. Franz, it's the same feeling here. The food system has gone loco.
juttaschmi:It is body- and mind control. We can do something against mind control,
don't we? At least for ourselves. And as far as our bodies are concerned, the
choices become smaller.
panta98:What has to be changed? What can we change? How can we change our
food and taste patterns?
juttaschmi:The truchas in El Valle however still taste the same. They have not gone
global yet, fortunately.
juttaschmi:And the vino de mora is excellent, also. So, we just might have to change our diet!
Trucha and Vino de Mora every day is fine with me - count me in!  ;-)
panta98:Yes, the truchas, and the trucha-sandwiches in El Valle Grande still taste
delicious. But, already here in La Pedregosa, the sweet, natural water we used to drink right out of the tap is changing and becoming to taste horrible, just like that what comes from the tap in New York. It tastes like chlorine, fluoride and who knows what else. Sometimes it tastes like if there were decaying corpses in the supplying dams. ...
frogmobile: First of all we need to analyze, why the radical push to "newer"
technology in farming. Who is providing the intellectual labor, and why? Who is gaining?
Of course, there are many spin-off effects of this new technology. It's the universities, the scientists, the shareholders and the economies of the developed world that profit from this.
frogmobile: Don't talk about truchas because you are getting me hungry! ...
panta98:Well, Guy! Job or no job! Soon, you'll have to come and toast with us the
Mora Wine!
juttaschmi:Khalid, from the economic perspective, we can state, that there is a
huge concentration process going on, with multinationals from all countries
starting to merge massively.
panta98:Perhaps, we should first meet in new York in July this year, and thereafter
see how and when you can come? Or do you want to come over right now to devour truchas
and Malta? Well, Guy! So get in the car. Off we go, to visit Dr. Ely! -
panta98:But, let's get back to more serious and "unpleasant things"!I'm also getting hungry,
but let's get on with the "food for thought"!
juttaschmi:Technology plays a major role in this merging process, because who
applies the latest technology, will be the first in selling his products cheaper than
the competition does. But as technological renovation and innovation is costly at the
start, merging helps, and also combining all sorts of production lines into one,
interrelated production line.
frogmobile: Yes, Jutta it is quite evident that the multinationals are all merging. The
problems are, they do not have have sufficient "pipeline" drugs or technology to
maintain shareholders interests. For this reason, there is a radical push to come up
with newer technologies; if not, they loose on the stock market. Their prices just
drop.
juttaschmi:But, at a certain stage, the competition too, has applied the latest
technology, and so the thing jumps to the next technological innovation step. And
the more technology takes over, the more physical labour is being laid off and so falls
out of the production process. It is intellectual labour, that counts for now.
panta98:I'm listening, or better, reading, you two, please, continue. ... Really
interesting!!!
juttaschmi:Soon, we will have two huge multinationals left, that provide for all the
world production. And the one says to the other: "wanna merge?" ;-)
frogmobile: Good point, but it is also very cost inefficient because it costs a lot more
to merge the different cultures and technologies of the organizations. Often it is
to the very detriment of the multinationals. However, it is a very "sexy thing" for
the stock market.
frogmobile: According to studies conducted here, most mergers are a failure. But
they don't publicly admit it.
juttaschmi:The tendency in the whole production process even points to intellectual
labour being replaced by rational labour, as we have stated on several occasions.
This means, that, to a big extent, "intelligent technology" itself will replace intellectual labour
performed by "humans".
juttaschmi:I did not know, that lots of fusions turned out to be a failure, Khalid. Do
you have any details?
frogmobile: Very good point Jutta on the role of intellectual labor in this process. To
a large extent, it has replaced physical labour, but in the rush they started too early in
replacing them without studing the impact! They know that for every physical
labourer they replace with a machine the less profits they will make in the long
run, since it will be one less consumer to buy their products.
panta98:The "big" ones fail? Or just smaller "mergers"? That would be part of the
process of monopolization, it's side effects!
juttaschmi:I can imagine, however, that it takes unimaginable "amounts" of capital
in order to successfully merge these days. There probably is no point in merging, if
you are not going to hit at least number three or two on a world scale. Everything
below that is probably a waste. - Exactly, Khalid, profits necessarily go down in this
process. Excellent observation.
panta98:Khalid, did you study your Marx and Lenin lately? This is what they were
forecasting! In a way, Mandel also said it, with reference to "Late Capitalism".
Of course, the New Left completely missed the boat!
frogmobile: Yes, Jutta! It is public knowledge, that especially among the life sciences
multinationals there is a high rate of failure. The new merging organizations become too burocratic
and difficult to control. Also with every merger, they loose the loyalty of the workers,
since they see themselves as the next ones out of the door without a job.
panta98:Khalid, what do you think is the "bottom line" of the above? Where does
this "merging", "globalized' process lead to?Perhaps to "post-industrial society"?
And what a funny thing is that supposed to be?
juttaschmi:There is a strange thing going on, indeed: Yes, workers are being laid
off in an ever larger scale. But there is a new type of consumers coming up: the
"machines" themselves. Take your computer for instance. It needs software, it needs hardware
parts, it needs to renew and update it's technological components every six months.
juttaschmi:If it had feet, it would probably walk to the store and go shopping!
But the white collar workers have to do this for their computers. They have the feet
(and the money) to walk to the store, or go online shopping.
frogmobile: What has happened in the process is, that pressures of competition has forced
these mergers, but to what extent! Some life sciences companies have only one or
two main "pipeline" drugs on the market, that is bringing the billions in. So they need to
get involved with another company, that probably has three main "pipeline" drugs to give the
stock market something "to think about."
panta98:What do the experts say there in Canada? Any opinion from the Canadian
"Marxists", that is, if some still survived the Crash of the Berlin Wall?! Or do you
not mix anymore with such "confused' creatures?
juttaschmi:So, in the appearance of the computer, we do have the precursor of the
"ultimate commodity", which produces itself and consumes itself.
panta98:Yes, Jutta, this will be the central "commodity" on the post-industrial
global market!
frogmobile: Franz, to answer you question: simply CHAOS. A world economic crisis
is in the making, that will doom this planet forever, that not even "GOD" can save.
juttaschmi:Nice panorama! I don't want to think of what will happen to places like
Venezuela!
panta98:In fact, it will be the "Nanobot", the future man himself, who is producing,
reproducing, marketing, buying and selling himself!
panta98:I agree with you, that the whole damn thing is beyond salvation.
frogmobile: Jutta, but how do I buy what I need, if my labor is being replaced with a
machine?! The machine does not consume food, drugs, cinema ticket, pay for a taxi
nor rent a home. That is why right now we have the highest rate of poverty ever seen
despite all the economic "success"!
juttaschmi:True, Khalid. And profits won't work with our "ultimate commodity",
either.
panta98:Khalid, did you get further with your investigations concerning Labour,
Intellectual Labour, and did you come to any innovative conclusions lately?
panta98:Those who had been performing "physical" labour, they basically need
products such as food, drugs, cinema tickets or taxis. The new intellectual labour providers
will lie in bed, with their laptops besides them, ordering everything and doing their job right
from out of bed. ....
juttaschmi::-)
juttaschmi:Iris and Stella send their greetings, by the way. We told them, that
you now can get online without even having to leave your bed, and that the only problem
is food provision. They suggest, you order it online at Pizza Huts and have it
delivered right to you appartment. Make sure there is enough space under your
door for the delivery guy to flip that pizza through under you door.
panta98:Also with the exploitation of intellectual and rational labour, the
consumption patterns will change, the social habits will transform themselves, even Capital,
and even profits will undergo a radical metamorphosis. ....
frogmobile: Not everyone will be able to contribute to the new intellectual labour
force. It takes decades, and to what extent! There is a limit as to what you can
replace with a machine, however.
panta98:Khalid, you know what happens with rubbish in this system? - You flush it
down the toilet. So, billions will disappear from the face of the Earth, starting with
Africa, Latin America and Asia. ....
frogmobile: I think eventually, capital will create its own revolution. In other words, it
will overthrow itself.
panta98:Did you know, Khalid, that they have already projects running, which will annihilate
useless physical labour in order to reduce the world population to 2 billion by 2050? There is
a reason for all this; we've just explained it above.
frogmobile: Yes, Franz they have started with Africa already, because they are an
easy target. I am speaking of AIDS. One out of every ten inhabitants has the disease already;
soon there will be no one left!
juttaschmi:Yes, I agree, Franz. The "agenda" to reduce the world population is no
conspiracy theory of a "weird bunch of few" at all, but has to do with the dynamics of the
very production process. As physical labour force will not be needed anymore, it necessarily
will have to be extinguished. That's the logics of the system.
panta98:The hour of the intellectual labourers is coming. For the billions of physical
labourers the church bell has been tolling long ago already. Next will come the
rational labourers, the Nanobots, the Alphas and Omegas, but no more Homo
Sapiens!
frogmobile: Africa is a good example. Next will be ASIA.
frogmobile: However the dialectic is, they also need consumers!
juttaschmi:.. and that is their big problem in the long run, Khalid.
panta98:In fact, millions and millions have already been sentenced to death by Capital in
this its metamorphosical stage. This is the reason why the ABC weapons were
developed in the first place. The first attack was the "brains', or what was left of them,
this is Mind Control, Education, Religion, Ideology. ....
juttaschmi:The dynamics of the capitalist mode of production is precisely the
substitution of physical labour by technology, but yet they are sawing on the same
branch they are sitting on, as consumers will disappear and no profits be made
anymore.
frogmobile: That is why they are very cosy with CHINA. As long as there are particular
geographic profit interests with potential to make billions, they will not get involved.
juttaschmi:... what a wonderful world!
panta98:That is why classical capital and classical profit will also vanish; they
were mainly based on physical labour, markets and corporeal consumption; now
intellectual exploitation needs "brain products", other commodities, other needs.
This also transforms the essence of Capitalism, of "Profit-Making". However don't
ask me now, into what it will be transformed.
juttaschmi:In any case, it clearly is one, immense self-destructive process.
frogmobile: The very weapons that they have created are destroying their
population, for example there are high rates of cancers and other diseases; also among
the defenders of the "peace", the soldiers. No one wants to go out to fight a war
now, because they know - even the lumpen know -, that if they survive, they will all be
sick and physically useless. Just think of the Gulf War Syndrome!
frogmobile: Those soldiers are all sick!
panta98:During agricultural production, in the heyday of feudalism, one could not
imagine modern capitalism, as you and Jutta explained and described it before. Similarly, we ourselves still cannot imagine the next stage of World Destruction. But I have some bright ideas
about the so-called Future! Jutta indicated the direction before.
juttaschmi:The peace movement would be enchanted by this! Their slogan used to
be: "Imagine there was a war and nobody would want to participate."
juttaschmi:This is what is happening now. Nobody wants to participate, because
they don't want to be "living deads" when they "survive".
panta98:Well, Guy! Do you still feel like "changing" this sewerage system? Or can
we get OUT of it? Is there a way out, and if there is, how?
frogmobile: So, what next for the profit mongers? - Promote virtual entertainment to
keep the minds of people occupied to divert attention! That is why there is a
mushrooming of new and powerful entertainment complexes, designed to make us feel
"good".
juttaschmi:Now, what about your bright ideas about the future, Franz? Please
proceed!
frogmobile: The future is latent in the present and in the past. The record speaks well for itself.
So we are heading for total self-destruction as a species.
panta98:Khalid, I introduced the "bright" idea of historic aurora already. But, at
first, do you have a foggy notion how we could get out of this trap, how we avoid to be used as
intellectual "guinea-pigs" in future space programmes?
frogmobile: I cannot nor can we swim out of this cess-pool. The key is to survive
sane and healthy until death do us apart.
panta98:Thinking about it, but very seriously, did you ever belong to this species
that you talk about? Did it ever accept you as a member of its species?
panta98:If not, then you are not talking of your own self-destruction.
frogmobile: No, I agree, I do not belong to them. But that seems to refer to semantics,
because I need the "other" species to survive.
frogmobile: I cannot survive totally on my own. Man is a "social being".
panta98:Death? Does Death part us from this system? Or is not the very system
Death itself? Is Death not an invention of this system? Guy, with "death" you don't escape
this system! If you suppose so, then you really are in trouble, forever caught within the system, will all its shit. Hence, please solve the problem before you die!
frogmobile: I have no problem to solve, Franz. I am a one-man man. When I die, this is
no longer my business.
frogmobile: Sorry to sound so cruel, guy.
frogmobile: Where is Jutta?
frogmobile: I am off work, soon. I don't know what to do next!
panta98:Is this Herrenvolk species, are these Bill Gates' guys the only way for you
to survive? Are there no other "species"? Are there no other members of your
own "species"? Why is our species "different" from the other one? Exactly, because it does not
ONLY survive on capitalist production, distribution and consumption!
juttaschmi:I'm still around, Khalid. Listening, or better: reading to the two of you.
panta98:Yes, you are out of work soon - billions are already out of work, millions and
millions of physical labourers will follow. ...
frogmobile: Good point. However, I cannot swim and survive alone in a sea of death
and hopelessness.
panta98:Geneticists, genetic engineers, etc. are getting new jobs everyday;
specialists, elitists, and the same market provides them with their needs. ...
frogmobile: Franz, Jutta: I have not given up, but I know how it will end. The key is
to have people like you, so we can all be one big family of "disaster busters".
panta98:Of course, you'll not solve your problem by looking for a next job, you'll
have to do this hundreds of times, unless you fit into the labour status quo. This, I
know, is not your butter. You did not study for this, and in any case, it's now "too
late". So, really, what remains ...?
juttaschmi:.. Disaster Busters, I like this one!
frogmobile: Thus, we will all be together as DB - "Disaster Busters". United we stand,
united we fall!
panta98:Some unknown philosopher, not recognized by the establishment, jobless,
a globe trotter, Don Albert, said something most interesting, which confirms what I
stated above ....
juttaschmi:... refreshen my memory, Franz, ... what did Don Albert say?
panta98:He said, that in the evolution of homo sapiens, the first two stages, the
body and the brain, are already complete, already obsolete, they won't evolve any further.
The next stage is the rational, "spiritual" development, which generally was ostracized to
the religious and divine spheres. ....
frogmobile: Are there hopes for sane people in this world? Crisis are created
everday, so as to get us to consume. Through alienation, depression and sickness
some out there are on the lurk to make money. Capital smiles, when there is a disaster.
juttaschmi:Right. So we'd better get down and do something for our "ratio". ...
panta98:Now, the basic problems which we have, in the epoch of total destruction,
are of a physical (bodily) and mental (thinking) nature, we are worried what to eat
tomorrow, and to keep our thinking process sane; however, our transcendence, our
excellence, does not need what money can buy, we have to explore our next stage
of development.
juttaschmi:True.
panta98:Let us not mix it up with fantasies of religious death, or of actually giving up
the ghost, be delivered to the cemetery and that's it. ...
frogmobile: What is happening here in America is a very controlled and well
organized campaign to make people feel "good" about themselves. Talks of new
technology is over hyped. Progress in medicine and the sciences also. We know, that
there has been a stagnation in new discoveries.
panta98:What is our relation, our context, within this huge "Life" that we know, in
Andromeda, in a "cell", on an atom, in History? Is it just to work for capitalists during
some decades, be sucked out, become 50 or 60 years old, and that's it? - You lie
down, you die, bye-bye?! ...
frogmobile: The new information technologies are just minor improvements to what
they knew five years ago. But as long as you keep people excited about Internet,
shopping and virtual entertaiment, you win their pockets to your gain in profits. The
economy needs confidence - that is, why everything is so overblown, too.
juttaschmi:And yet it is one thing they tell "the public", and another thing what is
really happening. Similar to what we said about Meridenian peasants before. They
try to nail you down onto a spot of no return, where you have swallowed what they
tell you with hook and sinker, so you would never have the idea to start acting
and thinking on your own.
panta98:But, let's return to what you have just raised, Khalid, to the "feel good ideology"!
panta98:Jutta, what's really happening? Some typical examples?
frogmobile: Very good, Jutta. Once they "get" you, you are sold to their ideology. And, of course,
it's also all about mind control.
panta98:OK. Agreed. Some typical examples?
panta98:What device, what strategy do they use? Why did people fall so easily for
the ideological crap?
panta98:Because they are already mind-controlled? Then, why control them still?
Waste of money! Waste of time! And for capitalists, time is money, is profit!
frogmobile: If you were born in a cess-pit, you would be already conditioned to the smell;
you would not know anything else other that.
panta98:I am not so sure that the major task of those in power is still to control the
minds of billions. It must be something else. Mind Control has practically been
established already up to 99.9999... percent success.
juttaschmi:We have loads of examples in our lectures and recent dialogues. The
most notorious example is doubtlessly religion. Religion has really taken people's
brains out and destroyed their ability to think. This is why I liked so much, what
Don Albert was saying at the beginning of his lectures. He said, that he simply did
not have the ability to believe, like somebody without legs simply does not have the
ability to walk, even if he wanted to.
panta98:Perhaps, Mind Control leads us on a fox-hunting spree. Perhaps it's about
something else?!
frogmobile: The capitalists do not have the time to control one's mind anymore.
They have left the job to the lumpen and the middle class. They all do it for them
for a mere pittance!
panta98:Yes, they keep the illusion about Mind Control high. They keep the
previous Marxists, Christians, Ideologues, the Social Sciences busy, while they get
down to the real thing!
juttaschmi:.. unless the very very few brains that think beyond ideology DO
constitute some kind of danger for the system, one way or the other. Why would
they develop mind control devices for idiots?
juttaschmi:I cannot imagine them going through all those experiments for nothing.
panta98:You don't need to tell a Zombie that he is mind controlled, he is dead
already. Also, giving him the last sacrament, which the lumpen, priests and middle
class do, won't alter his state. ...
juttaschmi:They know exactly, where and to what extent they have succeeded in
controlling people, and they probably know, too, where they don't.
frogmobile: I think the significance of religion is a little bit over-played in the
current sphere of things. I know of no one that is religious. It is just used
periodically to create fright and to shock people. But very few actually believe in it
compared to years ago. The new religion is MONEY, and profit is the name of the
New Information Economy.
juttaschmi:The appearance of religion has changed, Khalid, not what is behind.
panta98:Also, you don't need to control the minds of "beings" who are immune to
Mind Control, who do not have the ability to believe, to be mind-controlled. You
cannot even "kill" them, they do not "believe in death". So you are really in a
pandemonium state of affairs.
juttaschmi:To believe in God, in a personal god,  in the authorities, in money, all this
expresses a religious state of mind.
juttaschmi:For example, most Japanese workers "believe" in the firms they are working for.
If this company goes bankrupt, they commit suicide.
frogmobile: Religion, perhaps, is used to justify in the minds of those who cannot
make it, that God would be there to save them. So, the rich can continue to exploit
without resistence. Do the rich believe in God? - Hell no! They don't ... not even the
very Pope or the Cardinals. They know there is no such a thing like God.
juttaschmi:True! And, a religious state of mind is a controlled state of mind. Good
for the ruling classes.
juttaschmi:A religious state of mind is even responsible for people's ability to identify
themselves with their very own exploiter, their very enemy, their very henchmen and hangmen.
frogmobile: Good comment, Jutta.
panta98:Khalid, this chat is so informative, it would really be unproductive not to
use it for emancipating purposes. ... Don't you think, that we can publish it on our Pandemonium Homepage?
frogmobile: Sure, I don't see why not.
panta98:Okay, so I edit it, and send it to you before publication, is that OK?
juttaschmi:I also think we should edit and publish the chat within
Pandemonium.Crew. What do you think, Khalid?
frogmobile: Sure, please publish it. - Hey guys, I am having fun! Tell me something
of life over there!
juttaschmi:... Well, coffee is next on our programme now. Franz just makes the
world's best coffee! I have become a hopeless addict (to both, Franz and the
coffee ;-) ).
panta98:Khalid, it's just that we did not eat yet today, and we have to finish some urgent
work for university, too.It was wonderful chatting with you.
frogmobile: All right, good guy. It's snowing outside, I have to go and get something to
eat, too.
panta98:Okay, Guy! then we say good-bye to you. Surely, you feel better now
about this world! It was really nice to chat with you, thanks to AOL, and your
home connection!
frogmobile: As for a future topic: I want us to examine the concept of "beauty" and the
cosmetic and fashion industry as a form of mind control.
juttaschmi:Interesting topic for the Venezuelan Ladies! You bet they don't have a clue what's going on, least the Venezuelan "Misses". - Please send your comments and observations, Khalid.
frogmobile: Sure I will!
juttaschmi:All right then, take care Khalid.
frogmobile: BYE BYE
juttaschmi:Have a nice afternoon. Bye.
panta98:Next time, we'll analyze Patricia's beauty. Don't forget to suggest Carl a topic for next Wednesday evening's all-round chat! Good-bye and take care!

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