what makes a guy a loser..
disclaimer: these are the opinions of a select female panel only!!
• penis size embellishments (like we care)
• failure to communicate in english
• obsession with sexual intercourse
• ...but ignorant in the ways of pleasuring a woman
• abusive pricks
• unathletic tryhards
• hairy backs and chunky jewellery
• blaming OUR PMS every time they do something stupid and upsetting. Who died and gave them the right to use it?
• tight pants and offensive body odour
• guys that kiss and use their teeth... *shudder*
• saying they also "just want to be friends for awhile before considering dating" and then acting like assholes when we say "hell no I won't sleep with you!"
• guys who make you feel like you're not good enough, when they wanted something totally different all along, but were too gutless to say so.
  
  Photographic example of a loser. "James, NJ."
  
• guys who say they care for you and then hit on your friends..
• guys who make a face and screw their noses up and go down on you in the hopes you'll return the favour.
• sweet talkers who are full time bullshitters
• guys using a touching lyric or poem in the hopes to get laid
• guys who 'forget' condoms.. like sex didn't cross their mind at all. (EZ has a point. condoms deteriorate in wallets and some girls might get the wrong idea if they found a condom in his wallet. nice one, EZ... but i'm not saying LEAVE a condom in your wallet for eternity, be prepared and all that. it's not like you're evil if one drops out of your wallet)
• guys who kill animals/people
• assuming that every opinion we have is only to prove "you are wrong and I am right" or "I have changed my mind again, and you better just go along with it"
  
  Photographic example of a loser. "Jim, Tampa, FL"
  
• guys who dis your taste in music when theirs sucks.
• guys who could care less what your interests are and don't make an effort to find out anything about you beyond the basics..
• guys who can't talk openly about sex
• guys who neglect body parts like necks, elbows and legs and only have eyes for T&A.
• guys who adore having blowjobs but make fish jokes..
• bad conversationalists.. carrying on only in the hope you'll eventually have enough talk and want sex. Then pretending otherwise if she gets a whif of your intentions.. Come on, is this charade worth it?
• forgetting valentines day, birthdays, and anniversarys and/or ruining their girlfriend/wife's carefully planned surprise for such an occasion, even after realizing how much time she spent soley for his happiness in her actions.
• He is accused of cheating, denies it, claims she is being paranoid. Only for her to find out that he is cheating. Boy doesn't he look stupid for being mad at her for suspecting him.
• when you leave numbers with girls names above them in your wallet and act like we've caught you red handed when we ask about them..
  
  Photographic example of a sleazy loser. "Wade, Texas."
  
• guys who stop calling you/avoid you/dodge your calls the day after you refuse them for sex.
• guys that stop calling you (as above) and the next time you run into them have a slutty girl on each arm and laugh at your obvious annoyance with their dishonesty.. not to mention nod and smile in agreement with your "you're SUCH an asshole" comments.
• ugly guys who see you run away from the above prick and ask you if you're okay and then when you say you are, think this gives them the right to try and maul you *shudder*.. goddammit was that a fucked up night..
• guys who don't rejoice with you when you find Soundgarden's SOMMS or bootleg.. even when you explain how rare it is and that it was what you searched for for years..
• guys who grab your ass when you walk past in a club but are too chickenshit to look you in the eye when you turn to them and call them a choice name..
• drunk guys who fight
• drunk guys who are loud
• drunk guys.
  
  I don't know who this is, but he looks like a loser eh?
  
• talking about a 'special day' (like 'the day we met') before it happens and then brushing it off as not important when it rolls around..
• telling her you hate cats/dogs/pets/children after you find out she has cats/dogs/pets/children.
• loser guys leave letters or pieces of writing concerning another female and are shocked when we don't trust them. On the same topic, since kitty read my mind.. those who make lists comparing their girlfriend with other women. We are not livestock, do not treat us as such. Yes it is so difficult to 'decide' between this first name only cheerleader and your girlfriend of 2 years.
• guys who make no effort with their physical appearance when the girl is the type to do so. But then, none of Kogg's guys ever have that prob! hahaha
• so i didn't have an orgasm when you did.. it was a porno you got that from, not a documentary!
• using personal and private information you shared with them in confidence against you in an argument
  
  Photographic evidence of a loser guy. "Doug E Fresh, CA"
  
• practically forcing drinks down our throats at parties. We aren't stupid, we know what you are trying to do.
• Boys who claim they are men, are old enough to be considered men and act like men for months on end, only to later admit that they have no job, no money, no car, and the dates you have been on have been funded solely by his "mommy"
• drive in movies-- If you must try and convince us to come home with you after the movie, don't pick the movie that we told you the week before that we really wanted to see.
• If you ask us for advice, do not expect that you can turn the advice on and off like a faucet. Friendship does not work that way, and if we are not your friend you should avoid asking our advice.
• when they blame our "needy-ness" for every argument. Claiming that we are clinging too tightly only works if we spend more than 3 hours a week in the same city
  
  Photographic evidence of yet another loser. ROB, Orlando, FL.
  
• a loser guy laughs when you call him up in tears the day Soundgarden broke up
• First date, at least pay for yourself. Either leave a tip or don't. Just don't ask her to.
• Sex is not the same as exercise and you should not use "it burns calories" as a ploy to get us into bed.
• Quit calling and asking us out, only to ask us what to do on the date after you pick us up. If you need help deciding on an activity, ask ahead of time.
• Dinner and a movie buys a "thank you for dinner and the movie, it was fun." Get real, even the least expensive prostitute in a third world country would charge more than that.
• Money.. yeah i lent it to you when we were in love remember? now we're not, but it's still a LOAN.. give it back.
  
  The loser of the week. "Aaron, Kitchener ON"
  
• guys who were afraid to dump you in person and tell you later and you thought you were having a great time when you were together..
• guys who have posters of models/silicon bimbos/actresses in their rooms and openly have a thing for one of them in particular, making note of how 'fucking hot' she was in the latest magazine/movie.
• guys who don't make an effort at all. guys who don't call you, don't tell you anything really.. but psychically we're still meant to be an item. yeah right.
• "you smell good" should be used sparingly, and only if you actually smell perfume or a perfumed soap smell. If she has just been working out, or muching the horse/sheep/cow barn, this is not a good time to say it. If even she can tell that she stinks, it doesn't help to lie.
• guys who are way too macho to be romantic or sweet.
• guys who refuse to shower with you cos "i just need the full shower space and all the water or i just won't be clean properly dammit".. THIS IS A TRUE STORY EH AARON!?!
• "honey, would you maybe *glance at crotch, silly grin, wink wink* " when you are FULLY aware that she has had a terrible cold for the past 3 days/ a nervous breakdown, is NOT acceptable under any circumstances..
• pushing our heads down is also a no no..
• loser guys tell us what to do.. "Are you going to put on makeup before we go out?" is only appropriate after you have actually LOOKED at her to confirm that she is not already wearing it. (kogg: if we even wear it or give a fuck at all..)
• beer and a video does not constitute an "enchanted evening"

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Ok enough bitching.. What makes a loser girl then..?your male perspective.. brought to you by -=EZ=- (aka.. some guy from Melbourne) and a bit from Dave in Waterloo,ON.

• expecting comfort when you are sick but laughing when the tables are turned
• using PMS as an excuse when we're not allowed to =p eg. "I'm sorry we fought, its pms" is just the same as "dammit ho, why the fuck you always slap my crap up when you ragging it?"
• getting offended at obvious jokes (possibly cos Kogg got offended by the previous point hehe)
• complaining that you're bored when you could be having sex =p
• continuous need to read everyones horoscopes...like it changed from the first 3 times?
• yes I do meet lots of new people, and yes I will meet up with an old friend somewhere along the line and no I wont want to screw her (much)
• stoopid pet names like kitty or koggle (no offense katrina)
• grrls that say WHAT in caps
• grrls who refuse to share the shower =p I dont like ppl who say sharing showers sucks its fun
• brand name hippies...dammit why are you paying cash for stuff that looks like junk? non-brand name hippies-um sex smells...soap doesnt burn honest
• chix with crabs suck, those little fuckers take months to annihilate
• grrls who are obsessed with celebrity idols
• red heads!
• grrls who die their hair. to coin an overused cliche, be yourself!
• here's a loser girl: girls that keep whining that they have a mole on their back, or their nose is bent. like, I wouldn't be with anyone if they showed no sign of attraction...