by Robin Thompson
It's early in the morning when Collective Soul bassist Will Turpin calls the
Spank! office. Turpin's soft Georgia accent belies the existence of a nasty
hangover but he's cool and ready to talk about life, Disciplined
Breakdown and the price of fame.
When Collective Soul hit the music scene in 1994
they made a big splash. Shine, from the first album,
Hints Allegations and Things Left Unsaid, won
Billboard's Album Rock Song of the Year.
Collective Soul played at Woodstock and opened
for Aerosmith. An intensive year in the spotlight was
followed by Collective Soul, which also won Rock
Song of the Year with December, an opening gig
for Van Halen and their own headlining tour.
Time for a breather? Nope. Bandmates Ed Roland
(lead vocals, guitars), Dean Roland (guitars), Ross
Childress (lead guitars), Shane Evans (drums) and
Turpin retired to a shack in the woods of Georgia
to write Disciplined Breakdown. Word of mouth
says this one may be as big as the last.
Disciplined Breakdown came out in March.
How's the reception been so far?
It seems very positive. Most of the people we talk to think we've done
another good thing. It's hard for us to take other people's perceptions
though.
How do you feel about it?
We're totally proud of it man! We're real happy with it. But now it's out of
our hands.
You seem to have a good record company push.
Well, they're behind us now (he says, cynically). It's a pretty easy guess
for them.
When Hints Allegations and Things Left
Unsaid hit, you guys got really big, really fast.
How did you adjust to that?
Well, we've known each other all our lives -
that was one thing that helped us through the
process of becoming so-called "famous". We
still don't look at ourselves as anything besides
normal. But had we not known each other I
think things could have been different, you
know? Everything stayed totally grounded. If
somebody every strayed, you know them so
well that you can direct them on the right path
before they go too far away. Also, we're each humble people.
When you get big do people treat you differently?
Yeah, automatically. They look at you differently because you've done
something. Personally, you either don't think about what you're going
through and throw away the chance to get better or you look at it like a
gift. Especially after the first album, we were on the road continually. Every
time we went on stage we tried to do something different, something better
than the night before. Basically we tried to become a better band.
You've run the gamut, from opening for big, big
acts to headlining. Is there any venue you prefer?
Our dream world is playing theaters, anywhere
from 2000 to 4000 seats. Hopefully we'll get to
do that all summer. There are still a lot of those
trashy-ass ballrooms we have to play. We're
not really into that. We're not into arenas either.
When people come to see us play we want
them to experience a vibe. And that includes
everybody - the people in the room, the people
checking tickets at the door, and us. If
everybody goes in that room and we all break it down, we all forget about
what's real in the world and have fun for two hours, then that's what we're
all about.
Now you've toured absolutely everywhere.
How did you like Europe?
It was tough to find a good meal (smiles). The last time we were there we
did 18 cities in 21 days so you don't find much of anything when you're
touring like that. You see the clubs and that's it.
Of course it's a different crowd every country because people are
influenced by their surroundings. But in the way of a vibe and wanting to
hang out, they're the same.
Is there any place that you really love to play?
Canada.
Get outta here! You're just saying that.
No! That's real. We love Canada. I think it has a lot to do with the people.
Canadians are more laid back and down to earth. It seems like Canada
has supported us even more than America has. America is so flaky, we
have no job security there even though it's our home country. So Canada is
special to us.
Can you characterize your band mates?
I'll start with Ed, our lead vocalist. He's basically
the "drift off into another world" type. You never
know when he'll go. Basically, the artsy, cultural
musician.
Ross is the fine tuned technician. He
concentrates on certain things and really tries to
educate himself. He started off playing the guitar
at 13 and has mastered other things since then.
Shane is the laid back, stylish, coolly drummer
(laughs). Dean is the "open minded with a
business sense" voice of the band. All of us are totally friendly and laid
back.
Are there any drawbacks to the fame you've
achieved?
There's so much BS! You'd think it would end
but I don't think it ever will. It's going to be like
this every damned day. It's a big headache.
This last year and half has been a big whirlwind
of lawyers. It's been terrible. Hours a day just
talking to lawyers and realizing where the hell
our career's gonna go. We weren't even sure if
we owned our name. It was rough. We
wouldn't have been able to release this CD. It
was a very trying time because we're sitting
there as friends and musicians wanting to release another album but it
wasn't in our grasp at all.
How do you cope?
When you play you try to forget about all that
but it affects what you're doing. We approach
music as the real thing not as "what can we
make now that will sell". We approach it as
therapy in a way. What comes out, comes out,
and the rest is not up to us at all.
And we've started playing golf. So we go and
we're away from everybody and nobody can
mess with us for at least four hours. We're not
very good golfers at all but that's not really the
point.
Collective Soul has done a lot of TV. How do
you find that atmosphere?
It's crazy when you know you're going to
be on national TV in front of millions of
viewers for one shot. It's not your vibe,
you're coming out stale. So that's weird. It's
also different for us now that we're
veterans. We've played Leno a couple of
times and Conan O'Brien. We've played
Letterman five times. So we know what to
expect. But it's not a very cool thing.
Things tend to happen fast for Collective Soul. "Let's talk again six months
from now!" says Turpin at the end of our interview. "After we've been on
the road we'll know what the vibe on the album is like. This was fun!"
Okay, Will. It's a date.