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SHAKESPEAR'S SISTER
The Spooky World of SIOBHAN FAHEY


She used to sleep on her knees She's got a stream in her back gardne that stops flowing at midnight She dyed her hair black to be like a witch Chris Heath investigates the strangest Story in pop...

"So," says Siobhan, sitting down with a cup of tea, "what are we going to talk about?". She has a few guesses. "It could be all the various houses," she says warily. "Or what it's like being married to Dave Stewart? Or what it's like to be rich, famous and a mother...?" Perhaps. She interupts her musing to rush round looking for a match, lights a cigarette, murmurs "guilt" and a "Secondary cancer" and explains that her smoking is one the few things that Dave "No longer Rolf" Stewart of the Eurythmics can't stand. Once she gets going conversation literally gushes from her...

To being with we do indeed discuss the millions of spook-houses in which she and her husband live. ("Three," she corrects.) First there is a modest affair in Los Angeles - there is a recording studio and a house with "big rooms" and "not enough bedrooms for guests" (four), a swimming pools ("of course," she laughs) and a lkarge garden... "It's just ecstatically beautiful ", she raves. " I wanted a really enchanted English garden. Wherever I live I try to recreate England. It has lots of roses... I'm made about flowers. It's also got thiungs that English gardens don't have, like oranges and lemons and grapefruits and hibiscus flowers and humming-birds a stream that comes on at mid-day and goes off at midnight. In fact you can have it on whenever you want - it creates a nice soothing backdrop..."

Sound's quite nice, doesn't it? The there's France, where they built a house on a plot of land they chose while on honeymoon. (Dave Stewart doesn't like English weather - "the air pressure makes him really depressed" - but Siobhan wanted to live somewhere close to London) "Once again, it’s just a four-bedroomed house… a nice pool… that’s it really." There is no stream (swizz) "but there is a lake on the land." Of course. And finally there is their house in London ("one of those tall thin ones that looks massive from the outside and is really pokey on the inside") where she likes her bedroom ("a dark cozy womb") and where she has just been watching "A Problem Shared". It sounds like a bit of a spoke-life – they’re hardly ever home anyway and when they are, their clothes or the toys for their baby (Sam) are never in the right house – but it’s quite clear that the unlikely couple of pop are blissfully happy.

"People don’t really know what Dave or I are like," she reflects. The media represent Dave as this withdrawn, elusive, boffin genius madman and I’m the fluffy blonde bimbo from Bananarama who’s just dyed her hair black. And of course neither stereotype remotely resembles the real person. "The family travel around as a posse of five people -–Siobhan, Dave, Sam and their nanny Nida and her cousin Wui. (Nida is pronounced "needa", Wui I pronounced "wee" – need a wee," titters Siobhan ). The story of Nida is, as with most things in their household, a slightly odd one. "She pre-dates me by a couple of years," says Siobhan. Eh? In other words, Dave Stewart got a nanny two years before he met Siobhan just in case he got a bit broody and felt like having children?

"It was a bit like that," she laughs. "his mum met her in the street. Dave’s mum is a really amazing person. She really loves people – there's a bus stop near her house and she’ll make big pots of soup and offer it to the people at the bus stop. She instinctively homes in on lovely people and she met Nida in the street and she knew that Dave was unable to look after his house because he just spends all his time…" she chuckles "being creative". And so, even though Nida didn’t really understand much about Western houses" and would get jeans dry-cleaned and bung priceless garments into the washing machine, it was much more important than that "she’s so full of love" and she was welcomed into the household.

This March, whilst the posse was whizzing around France, Siobhan saw a life-altering sight. "I drove past a truck on the way to the slaughterhouse," she shudders, "and I could see all the cows. They’d been beaten round the head and they were all covered in blood. Suddenly you realise – do you want to be part of that or don’t you? She decided that she didn’t. When she arrived at their French "no stream, just a lake" house she told Nida that meat was off the menu forever. "Before I hadn’t given it serious consideration because I couldn’t relae the meat on my plate to the cow in the field." The world is messed up badly – it’s a very violent place – and seeing those animals bullied and beaten and tortured… I just think that while society condones such acts against animals it condones them against people as well. It makes me feel directly responsible." There is however a slight vegetarianism problem with Sam. "A few months ago," she admits, "he decided he liked sausage." Oh. "He doesn’t like much food and it’s really difficult to know what to do because you think "Oh well, at least he likes something!" It seems little premature to impose my decision on him…"

You get the impression that becoming vegetarian is just one of many changes that have come over Siobhan recently. She talks about her days in Bananarama as if I was a life of a different person, a person who had lost the point of what they were doing and lived life in a rather cynical, aimless way. She explains that she changed her hair colour partly because she didn’t want to be "recognised from or associated with my past" "I feel more submissive with blonde hair… more of a victim," she elaborates. "You aline yourself with Marilyn Monroe and Madonna and the submissive sex kind of woman." Black hair, by contrast represents "strength or purpose and almost defiance… sexual but not 'sexy'… you kind of associate it with witches."

Witches and general spookiness is a world which, it turns out, interest her greatly. When asked about it a very strange story from her past slowly unravels itself. "I went through these very weird phases as a teenager," she begins. "I think I was teetering on the verge of schizophrenia at the time."She laugh in the kind of awkward way that suggests she knows that sounds silly but that she also means it. "I had a weird kind of obsession at the time." At first she is hesitant to explain but eventually she continues. "I think because I was virginal, and The Exorcist (a spook film about demonic possession) had just come out and people had noted a vague resemblance between me and the girl in it and for a couple of years I thought…" She laughs nervously. "…I thought that something was going to possess me. I did have a bizarre ritual that I would go through every night to ensure that I would still wake up in control of myself in the morning." Again, at first she is unwilling to go into detail, but she relents.

"It's just ridiculous... very very sad. You see, the other thin that happened at that time was that I went to a convent school and one of the nuns said, in front of the whole class, "There's a girl in here who would really make a great nun and she knows who she is! It's.... SIOBHAN FAHEY! Would Siobhan stand up!!! You know you've got a vocation! If you turn your back on the Lord you'll always remain UNHAPPY..." Terrible." And so she became convinced she was in danger of being possessed by evil. "So I had this ritual. It was based on stations of the cross and rosary beeds and frantic chanting." She laughs, embarrassed, before spluttering out the strangest detail. "And I had to sleep on my knees." Sleep on your knees in bed? "Yeah." And you'd manage to fall asleep kneeling in bed? "Yeah" she murmurs. "After many hours." She did this every night for about two years. The ritual stopped "when I lost my virginity, I suppose. I though 'I'm safe now - they don't want me anymore'. I'd pick up some piece of information that the Price of Darkness was rather keen on young virgins." She laughs at how odd all this sounds. "I've come a long way since then. I'm OK now."

Nevertheless, these days, Siobhan has many deeply felt beliefs that many cound a little strange to some people. "I don't believe in just flesh and blookd," she says. "I believe in the forces of good and evil, in God, in a great spirit. That should be the most important thing and it isn't. Peoplejust worship material things and the trappings of success in the lifetime - they forget that they're on a long journey and they've got to make up in their next life for what they do in this one.

A lot of people will think it's easy for someone to critise the "worship of material things" when they own three houses... "Well", she nods, "they've got it completely wrong to look at it in those terms. Dave and I do not seek to earn money and when we do we put it back and help other people. We don't hoard it in a Swiss band account. We have a very communual and generous attitude - we don't regard it as essentially ours. We don't want to hand onto it and form a dynasty. People who might critise us should put their own house in order first because that's obviously what they'd do." She sighs. "That's why I hate doing interviews about the houses, because to us it means absolutely nothing. We're hardly ever in them... usually our friends are there."

And on she chats, smoking more cigarettes, drinking more tea (no sugar) and eating her unpopstarish lunch (one toasted cheese and tomato sandwich out of a white paper bag). She is quite one of the most friendly and interesting people you could meet, and the conversation spooks all over the place. She talks about how much she likes the coat she's just taken off: "black velvet coat with an elasticated waist and full swinging skirt with an uneven handkerchiefhemline - I used to do fashion journalism" - because "it feels nice against my legs"; about how she was terrified to go underwater in the new Shakespear's Sister video "Run Silent" because normonally she never gets her face wer; about how she writes poetry - and has poetry reading sessions with a friend and they "sit there cringing bright red"; about how she thinks "a peaceful breakdown in society as we know it" would be a good thing'; about how Dave Stewart likes joke shops and has bought a horrible mask that "cackles and blinks and spits water in your face" and which Sam calls The Horrible Man; about how she wants to do past life regression and has a weird feeling about The Deep South of America; about how she used to talk about seeing an old lady when she was tuny and her parents told her there was no old lady unless she's seen the ghost of the previous inhabitant who was - tada! tada! - an old lady; about karma and hwo she believes scientific understanding of the world is hopelessly limited; about how usefless Mrs Thatcher is; about how Sam's birth chart says, to her delight, "he'll be a great visionary and humanitarian...." and so on.

I can't see all this in Smash Hits," Siobhan suddenly declares, after she's been talking about reincarnation and spirtiual matters for a while, "apart from 'She gurgled! She burped! She's a loony girl!' That's the trouble - these things aren't given enough gravity and respect. I've always been really shy about talking like this in interviews because in England there's such an atmosphere of doubt..." So if someone read all this and though 'Golly! She sounds a bit odd!' what would you say to them? "I'd say 'Who are they to say what odd is?' That's my way of living my life. I think if more people got interested in being creative and expressing themselves in a creative way then there'd be less frustration and people wouldn't be so bitter and cynical and violent and the world would be a much better place." She is beinning to get angry just thinking about it. "People are scared to be creative, especially in England because it's taboo. You're a loony - there's something wrong with you. You're supposed to work in a factory like everybody else. When I didn't want to be like that I was treated as someone who was very selfish and irresponsible."

Even by your parents? "Yeah" Do they understand now? "I think they understand a bit better not but they come from a different generation and I really do think that they have been slaves of their own upbringing, quite tragically so." What will they think of you saying that? "I think they'll be very upset but my hope is that now my parents are retured they can fulfil themselves. My dad in particular has, I think, a very special brain, for writing, but he's always had to be part of the sausage factory."

By now Siobhan ("She gurgles! She burps! She's a loony!".... except she's quite clearly now) is looking very thoughtful and not a little sad. It's as though she forgot quite a while ago that she was giving an interview. "The good thing," she quietly reflects, thinking of her upbrining, "was that I could see all that when I was very young and I didn't want to go the same way...".

Extract from Smash Hits, 18-31st October 1989, Written by Chris Heath

Last Updated: 26th October, 2001

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